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Safestrap roms

Now that the OTA has locked everyone up or those of us that got a device that didn't have the chance to unlock the bootloader, do most/some/all/etc roms that we have for the Razr M work with Safestrap?
Sorry if this is posted elsewhere but I didn't see it and only saw mention of roms having to be compatible with it

collins521 said:
Now that the OTA has locked everyone up or those of us that got a device that didn't have the chance to unlock the bootloader, do most/some/all/etc roms that we have for the Razr M work with Safestrap?
Sorry if this is posted elsewhere but I didn't see it and only saw mention of roms having to be compatible with it
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I don't know the exact roms, but I know there are a few. Since the bootloader was unlocked though, the development for safestrap roms has slowed or stopped. Check in the Android Development section and scroll through for the safestrap roms. I believe they were 4.1.2 roms only, but don't quote me on that.
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Jersey846 said:
I don't know the exact roms, but I know there are a few. Since the bootloader was unlocked though, the development for safestrap roms has slowed or stopped. Check in the Android Development section and scroll through for the safestrap roms. I believe they were 4.1.2 roms only, but don't quote me on that.
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ROMs developed for SS stopped at 4.1.1, meaning that there not any 4.1.2 custom ROMs available. bootloader was unlocked prior to 4.1.2 rolling out.
there might be a way to convert them to SS though - I know that a dev was able to convert a SS ROM to TWRP flashable recovery, so perhaps he might be able to do the reverse.

jco23 said:
ROMs developed for SS stopped at 4.1.1, meaning that there not any 4.1.2 custom ROMs available. bootloader was unlocked prior to 4.1.2 rolling out.
there might be a way to convert them to SS though - I know that a dev was able to convert a SS ROM to TWRP flashable recovery, so perhaps he might be able to do the reverse.
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I believe DeadCalm was updated to 4.1.2. Also, Eclipse v1.2 is still SS compatible but it leans more heavily on AOSP styling.
SS compatible ROMs:
-Early builds of CM10 (way early, like at the beginning of thread early)
-DeadCalm was SS enabled, not sure if it was modified for an unlocked bootloader only
-Energy is SS enabled and never altered for unlocked bootloader
-Flying Jelly was SS enabled and I don't think it was modified to work only on an unlock bootloader
-Eclipse v1.2 was SS enabled, I don't think it was modified for unlocked bootloader

RikRong said:
I believe DeadCalm was updated to 4.1.2. Also, Eclipse v1.2 is still SS compatible but it leans more heavily on AOSP styling.
SS compatible ROMs:
-Early builds of CM10 (way early, like at the beginning of thread early)
-DeadCalm was SS enabled, not sure if it was modified for an unlocked bootloader only
-Energy is SS enabled and never altered for unlocked bootloader
-Flying Jelly was SS enabled and I don't think it was modified to work only on an unlock bootloader
-Eclipse v1.2 was SS enabled, I don't think it was modified for unlocked bootloader
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yeah, but those are all 4.1.1 ROMs - and I'm fairly certain deadcalm is unlocked bootloader only, as it was created for just 4.1.2.
but I really don't think it matters much anymore - Motorola has been quite diligent on providing updates, so I would not be surprised to see an official 4.2.2 release by the end of this year, with a 4.3 release by next summer.

jco23 said:
yeah, but those are all 4.1.1 ROMs - and I'm fairly certain deadcalm is unlocked bootloader only, as it was created for just 4.1.2.
but I really don't think it matters much anymore - Motorola has been quite diligent on providing updates, so I would not be surprised to see an official 4.2.2 release by the end of this year, with a 4.3 release by next summer.
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Yeah, you're right on all those being 4.1.1, but I was just throwing out some options. Personally, I think very few of the devs, if any, will develop for SS. Sure, the people that are getting new phones or maintenance replacements are hosed. However, people that owned the phone and decided to install the update and not unlock their bootloader? Well, it's their own fault. They've been warned for 4 months that the patch could be locked. Look what happened, it was locked. The one thing the devs could do, that would be fairly easy, is just update the older SS ROMs to the newer OTA. That would help out a lot of people.

RikRong said:
Yeah, you're right on all those being 4.1.1, but I was just throwing out some options. Personally, I think very few of the devs, if any, will develop for SS. Sure, the people that are getting new phones or maintenance replacements are hosed. However, people that owned the phone and decided to install the update and not unlock their bootloader? Well, it's their own fault. They've been warned for 4 months that the patch could be locked. Look what happened, it was locked. The one thing the devs could do, that would be fairly easy, is just update the older SS ROMs to the newer OTA. That would help out a lot of people.
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100% agreed on the warnings - but I also understand why folks may have been skittish beforehand (took me 3 months of reading before I rooted my first device). given that this phone is now offered for free, I can see many new folks to this community, but they'll be SOL unless we are blessed with the help from a dev to unlock their bootloader.
that being said, the devs are not required to create a hack or make their ROMs SS-compatible, but I would not be surprised if locked bootloader phones soon begin to outnumber the locked one. i'm just thankful that they are here.

To be fair, the droid razr m that I'm working on has its bootloader locked because my girlfriend is skittish about me touching her phone. Women

I could barely even get any to work when they were still developing SS Roms, so goodluck... Never accept OTA's...

AK47sForAll said:
I could barely even get any to work when they were still developing SS Roms, so goodluck... Never accept OTA's...
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Unfortunately the one I have had the OTA already downloaded so I didn't even get a chance to unlock the bootloader...been trying to find a white one at a reasonable price and haven't' had much luck

collins521 said:
Unfortunately the one I have had the OTA already downloaded so I didn't even get a chance to unlock the bootloader...been trying to find a white one at a reasonable price and haven't' had much luck
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What do you consider reasonable? And have you tried eBay?

AK47sForAll said:
What do you consider reasonable? And have you tried eBay?
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Ya I've been watching eBay and other sites for a good deal on a white one. Under $200 and in great shape is where I'm looking to get one. I'm in no real rush so I can wait for a deal to pop up

http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/t...calm-v14-7172013-412-base/page-30#entry333531
That being said.
An activated DC is a path to this & you take your data with you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2246081
Edit Yet this is a backup made by the full twrp. Yet again they are supposed to be compatible....

Cyanogenmod mod ?

Is their a cyanogenmod version that works for non developers editions of the verizon note. I just got my note 3 and without cyanogenmod it would stink.. has the bootloader been unlocked ?

No, still can't flash custom kernels

mjh68 said:
No, still can't flash custom kernels
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there are may subjects and threads on this matter. I realized that not everyone understands everything, but if you know enough to register on this site, you must know how to use the search function.
to sum up:
search before posting
for the time being s4 and above on verizon wont be able to run aosp roms*
*besides developers edition. (if you have to ask, you don't have one)

dogenut said:
Is their a cyanogenmod version that works for non developers editions of the verizon note. I just got my note 3 and without cyanogenmod it would stink.. has the bootloader been unlocked ?
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i did the same thing back in January and i'm kicking myself in the ass for not doing a lot more research first. samsung software has got to be the worst, thats why this phone has 3 gb ram. use towel root and at least get root access to shut half the ****ty software off. the custom roms for this phone are just rework versions of bloatwiz.

That blows... has anyone been working on it ?

dogenut said:
That blows... has anyone been working on it ?
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The likelihood that our bootloader will even be unlocked or that any real development will go into kexec allowing us to flash custom kernels is probably close to 0%, meaning there will not be a cyanogenmod for retail N3.
However, if you are looking for a closer to AOSP rom check out Eclipse Rom. The dev has put much coding into the rom to make it feel like AOSP, it's not without its faults but what rom is perfect?
Also the devs for Alliance Rom have said they will be releasing an AOSP version in the future and many people are looking forward to that.
With practically any rom you will find yourself uninstalling a lot of bloatware unless you are one of the few who bought a Samsung device to use the proprietary software.
Either way, have fun.

[Q] What Galaxy S5 has more custom rom support?

I'm thinking of getting a S5, but I would like one that I could completely customize with Roms and everything. I currently just know that both AT&T and Verizon are locked at the bootloader. So I know I won't be able to use custom roms on those. But I am not complete sure about the other phones.
Help would be appreciated thanks in advance

OhaiiDan said:
I'm thinking of getting a S5, but I would like one that I could completely customize with Roms and everything. I currently just know that both AT&T and Verizon are locked at the bootloader. So I know I won't be able to use custom roms on those. But I am not complete sure about the other phones.
Help would be appreciated thanks in advance
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I think you should be able to put custom roms even on those devices.
However, I think there's nothing like unlocked, international version of the device.
I wonder though whether Snapdragon is better than Exynos regarding this issue.
Anyway, good luck. I hope to read interesting opinions about this, as all I wrote here are just guesses.

AndroidDeveloperLB said:
I think you should be able to put custom roms even on those devices.
However, I think there's nothing like unlocked, international version of the device.
I wonder though whether Snapdragon is better than Exynos regarding this issue.
Anyway, good luck. I hope to read interesting opinions about this, as all I wrote here are just guesses.
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well I've seen custom roms on these devices, but the roms cannot be fully customizable like cyannogenmod. They have to be touch wiz based roms for them to be able to work on these devices.

OhaiiDan said:
I'm thinking of getting a S5, but I would like one that I could completely customize with Roms and everything. I currently just know that both AT&T and Verizon are locked at the bootloader. So I know I won't be able to use custom roms on those. But I am not complete sure about the other phones.
Help would be appreciated thanks in advance
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Stock rom with root and xposed framework will offer a ton of mods for you

i sold my 900a in favor of a 900f. locked bootloader meant no custom kernel.

Can I install custom roms on T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge SM-G935T

I know this question has been asked, and have been searching around the forums, but everything I am seeing says the reason that there are no real custom roms for this device is because the Bootloader is locked.. In my developer options on my device I am given the choice to enable OEM Unlock. Will this allow me to bypass the issues others are having? My Goal is to eventually learn what needs to be done so I can create my own rom or take a stock debloated rom and customize it completely to an end result I am happy with including UI/apps etc..
Thanks,
KaboneIsLegend

KaboneIsLegend said:
I know this question has been asked, and have been searching around the forums, but everything I am seeing says the reason that there are no real custom roms for this device is because the Bootloader is locked.. In my developer options on my device I am given the choice to enable OEM Unlock. Will this allow me to bypass the issues others are having? My Goal is to eventually learn what needs to be done so I can create my own rom or take a stock debloated rom and customize it completely to an end result I am happy with including UI/apps etc..
Thanks,
KaboneIsLegend
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Nope. We can still have custom roms but we're just stuck with the one kernel required for root.

KaboneIsLegend said:
I know this question has been asked, and have been searching around the forums, but everything I am seeing says the reason that there are no real custom roms for this device is because the Bootloader is locked.. In my developer options on my device I am given the choice to enable OEM Unlock. Will this allow me to bypass the issues others are having? My Goal is to eventually learn what needs to be done so I can create my own rom or take a stock debloated rom and customize it completely to an end result I am happy with including UI/apps etc..
Thanks,
KaboneIsLegend
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Bootloader is still locked. As of right now there is no way to unlock it so there is no way to have a custom ROM.

If you look at the development thread, you can see the options. One is a mod of the OEM ROM (PD8 only), but the other two are ROMs - on bade on 935U (echoe) and the other is a cleaned up modified Stock ROM.
With the locked bootloader you can only flash signed by Samsung ROMs - so no ASOP, CMxx ROMs. But by taking a stock ROM or the exiting unbloated one (with permission if you want to post your ROM - which would be welcome) it is something you can do right now (after you are rooted of course).
We also don't have custom recoveries, but flashing and backing up with FlashFire works pretty good, so go for it !

Binary100100 said:
Nope. We can still have custom roms but we're just stuck with the one kernel required for root.
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Your talking the engineering boot.img ?
ShrekOpher said:
Bootloader is still locked. As of right now there is no way to unlock it so there is no way to have a custom ROM.
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No way to force this?
gaww said:
If you look at the development thread, you can see the options. One is a mod of the OEM ROM (PD8 only), but the other two are ROMs - on bade on 935U (echoe) and the other is a cleaned up modified Stock ROM.
With the locked bootloader you can only flash signed by Samsung ROMs - so no ASOP, CMxx ROMs. But by taking a stock ROM or the exiting unbloated one (with permission if you want to post your ROM - which would be welcome) it is something you can do right now (after you are rooted of course).
We also don't have custom recoveries, but flashing and backing up with FlashFire works pretty good, so go for it !
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I'm sure I know the answer to this, but can we fake signing? Also where would I need to go to research what needs to be done to remove the locked bootloader for my specific device? Maybe I can contribute something towards helping this get done. Are there any places people have shared their research?
Thanks guys for the awesome replies

KaboneIsLegend said:
I'm sure I know the answer to this, but can we fake signing? Also where would I need to go to research what needs to be done to remove the locked bootloader for my specific device? Maybe I can contribute something towards helping this get done. Are there any places people have shared their research?
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People have been working on this since the device launched back in March. As far as I know, the files are cryptographically signed by Samsung, and the only way to bypass that is to find some kind of security exploit. As of yet, it hasn't been done. The leaked engineering kernel is basically the only known path at the moment to step outside of Samsung's locked down system.

andrewNY said:
People have been working on this since the device launched back in March. As far as I know, the files are cryptographically signed by Samsung, and the only way to bypass that is to find some kind of security exploit. As of yet, it hasn't been done. The leaked engineering kernel is basically the only known path at the moment to step outside of Samsung's locked down system.
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Alright I will look into this then. I'm new to the android scene, but have experience with disassembly for applications, and reverse engineering for the older video game consoles. So why is there an option to oem unlock the phone if it doesn't really do that?

KaboneIsLegend said:
Alright I will look into this then. I'm new to the android scene, but have experience with disassembly for applications, and reverse engineering for the older video game consoles. So why is there an option to oem unlock the phone if it doesn't really do that?
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Because not all variants have a locked bootloader. Just the US Qualcomm versions.

Binary100100 said:
Because not all variants have a locked bootloader. Just the US Qualcomm versions.
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Thanks for that. I understand now.

We are rooted only because of the engineering bootloader. Stupid question time - with the problems with the kernel which are only partially fixed, ccouyld the kernel inself be modified or would it then be blocked by the bootloader.
There may custom kernels out there that would not work on a locked bootloader, but is the engineering kernel possibly open to modifications?

why is there so little rom development

Since we have a mostly stable root... why are there only 2 custom roms??
After being locked out of my s6, I was so excited this phone had root... just don't understand

Anthrax79 said:
Since we have a mostly stable root... why are there only 2 custom roms??
After being locked out of my s6, I was so excited this phone had root... just don't understand
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Because there are not many options as we can only use stock 6.0.1 base with the locked bootloader that uses the engineering kernel. If we could use any kernel it would be a WAY different story.

Thanks for the insight. Did not realize the engineering kernel was so restricted. I came from an HTC one prior, and we had lots of roms based off the base kernel, but I am a jafu so my knowledge is limited.

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Anthrax79 said:
Thanks for the insight. Did not realize the engineering kernel was so restricted. I came from an HTC one prior, and we had lots of roms based off the base kernel, but I am a jafu so my knowledge is limited.
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Would give stang5litre a run man. Dude put a lot of work in it. Color just bout anything the way u want to. Smooth ass rom. Way smoother than stock rooted. Got a nice group of people come join

It could be worse....
Anthrax79 said:
Thanks for the insight. Did not realize the engineering kernel was so restricted. I came from an HTC one prior, and we had lots of roms based off the base kernel, but I am a jafu so my knowledge is limited.
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You COULD be stuck with a MTK tablet; the only MTK devices getting any love are phablets and phones for the most part (and those are mostly in the MEAR: Middle East, Asia, and Russia). My Lenovo A7-30F (not the A3000 or A3300) has two recoveries (one each for KitKat and Lollipop) and no custom ROMs at all; my GNex (which is far older) has more ROMs just for KitKat (let alone Lollipop, Marshmallow, and Nougat).

The LG G3 was nice because there was an exploit (and it hasn't been patched to this day) that allows you to have what is called a "bumped" TWRP so you can flash all sorts of custom ROMs, including AOSP-based ROMs, as well as custom kernels. That was a nice feature of the LG G3 on VZW. Not sure why they never patched the exploit. I do miss those days, but I did stop rooting and such because I could still get really good battery life. Plus, Android Pay was a nice feature I liked using and now with the S7, I absolutely love Samsung Pay. Makes life so much easier when I check out not having to pull out my wallet, fumble and find the credit/debit card, swipe, etc. Just tap and pay! Nice!