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So, I've had the GS4, for what, something like a year now, and I'm still on the MDL firmware. I haven't been keeping up, though, so I'm wondering if someone could give me a quick lay-of-the-land in terms of ROMs. I was using Task650's AOKP on my GS2 previously, but it seems like (from his thread) that development dropped off, or at least, went underground there. Is the best option nowdays to let it update, and run a SafeStrap rom, or is there still ongoing development of loki ROMs?
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So, I've had the GS4, for what, something like a year now, and I'm still on the MDL firmware. I haven't been keeping up, though, so I'm wondering if someone could give me a quick lay-of-the-land in terms of ROMs. I was using Task650's AOKP on my GS2 previously, but it seems like (from his thread) that development dropped off, or at least, went underground there. Is the best option nowdays to let it update, and run a SafeStrap rom, or is there still ongoing development of loki ROMs?
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There are plenty of Loki ROM"s still being updated... check out the most of the ROM's in this section. Whatever you do I strongly advise NOT upgrading from the coveted MDL firmware.
Personally, I'd just install this or CyanogenMod and call it a day.
godefroi said:
So, I've had the GS4, for what, something like a year now, and I'm still on the MDL firmware. I haven't been keeping up, though, so I'm wondering if someone could give me a quick lay-of-the-land in terms of ROMs. I was using Task650's AOKP on my GS2 previously, but it seems like (from his thread) that development dropped off, or at least, went underground there. Is the best option nowdays to let it update, and run a SafeStrap rom, or is there still ongoing development of loki ROMs?
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Go to his Google+ page he has been putting out bad ass Roms on there.
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Like Nighthawk said, DO NOT UPGRADE. You can flash anything you want on MDL, Safestrap is for those of us on the later firmwares MF3 (4.2.2) and MK2 (4.3).
If you want suggestions on what Roms CM or a 4.4.2 KitKat GPE Rom will be the best. Pretty much what Nighthawk linked...I'm not even sure why I made this post now.
godefroi said:
So, I've had the GS4, for what, something like a year now, and I'm still on the MDL firmware. I haven't been keeping up, though, so I'm wondering if someone could give me a quick lay-of-the-land in terms of ROMs. I was using Task650's AOKP on my GS2 previously, but it seems like (from his thread) that development dropped off, or at least, went underground there. Is the best option nowdays to let it update, and run a SafeStrap rom, or is there still ongoing development of loki ROMs?
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Don't update man, enjoy the MDL.. but if you just want to update then better sell your MDL phone on swappa and buy an updated one from there, there are people who would want that.
My S4 got fried. When I got it fixed, I found that it was upgraded to a newer build which has Knox. Therefore, I cannot use custom recovery or flash AOSP ROMs anymore. I cant stand Touchwiz.
I was thinking of selling my S4 and going for an S5 but it appears that no AOSP ROMs have not been released yet and development has ceased because of issues with GPS and Camera.The GPE version which can help with ROM development also has not been released yet and its release appears unlikely as time goes by. This phone was released back in April and I dont know if I can expect a stable AOSP ROM to be ever released - As the phone gets older, it gets more unlikely that someone will have the interest to fix these issues. Anyone share these concerns - any related thoughts - Is the S5 worth buying?
Development has not stalled, stop creating drama. This is a great phone all around so it was worth getting before root even occurred. Get the M8 if you can't be bothered...
phonedawg said:
My S4 got fried. When I got it fixed, I found that it was upgraded to a newer build which has Knox. Therefore, I cannot use custom recovery or flash AOSP ROMs anymore. I cant stand Touchwiz.
I was thinking of selling my S4 and going for an S5 but it appears that no AOSP ROMs have not been released yet and development has ceased because of issues with GPS and Camera.The GPE version which can help with ROM development also has not been released yet and its release appears unlikely as time goes by. This phone was released back in April and I dont know if I can expect a stable AOSP ROM to be ever released - As the phone gets older, it gets more unlikely that someone will have the interest to fix these issues. Anyone share these concerns - any related thoughts - Is the S5 worth buying?
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GPS and Camera issues? No. And the development hasn't stalled, but is definitely more moderated than older phones. And you will not see ANY AOSP roms until the bootloader is unlocked(likely never). You have to use safestrap so you will only have Touchwiz roms.
phonedawg said:
My S4 got fried. When I got it fixed, I found that it was upgraded to a newer build which has Knox. Therefore, I cannot use custom recovery or flash AOSP ROMs anymore. I cant stand Touchwiz.
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To add to what was said above, Knox is not the problem. The locked bootloader put in place on the Verizon and At&T variants is the problem. The T-Mobile and Sprint Galaxy S5s also have Knox, but their bootloaders are unlocked. So users of those models are free to flash whatever ROMs are available for their variants.
And the root exploit has been patched. So maybe not the best phone if you can't stand TW/absolutely can't stand not running a custom ROM unless you can get one that has not had the patch installed.
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FWIW I've been running custom ROM's since my old original Moto Droid and felt the same way. I finally took the plunge yesterday and paid full retail for the S5 (unlimited data plan)... I've got root and SuperSU with knox dis-abled, so I can freeze/delete anything I want and Foxfi lets me broadcast wifi tether. This phone is pretty well fantastic as it is. Even though some features are nice I ain't so sure I am even gonna mess with it. The phone is THAT good IMO....
phonedawg said:
My S4 got fried. When I got it fixed, I found that it was upgraded to a newer build which has Knox. Therefore, I cannot use custom recovery or flash AOSP ROMs anymore. I cant stand Touchwiz.
I was thinking of selling my S4 and going for an S5 but it appears that no AOSP ROMs have not been released yet and development has ceased because of issues with GPS and Camera.The GPE version which can help with ROM development also has not been released yet and its release appears unlikely as time goes by. This phone was released back in April and I dont know if I can expect a stable AOSP ROM to be ever released - As the phone gets older, it gets more unlikely that someone will have the interest to fix these issues. Anyone share these concerns - any related thoughts - Is the S5 worth buying?
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As for AOSP ROMs. I have never had success with any AOSP ROM on my Moto Maxx HD, or my Sammy S4 Developer Edition and I tried every AOSP ROM available for them. In every case battery life was bad, or camera wasn't right or did not work, or GPS would not work or hold the sync, or they got real laggy after a few days or data would come and go. It didn't make a difference which ROM, there was always something that wasn't quite right. In the case of my S4, it always ran better on a TW based ROM.
I have an S5 Developer Edition now. Based on my previous experience with AOSP ROMs, I'm not holding my breath for a AOSP ROM that performs any better on my S5 than they did on my S4 because I don't think they'll ever get there.
There is root and SafeStrap for the S5 retail version now, as you already know. From most accounts the S5 performs very nicely with the TW based ROMs available...and so does my S5 Dev Edition. I'm not sure what it is about TW that you don't like but the S5 is a great phone whether you flash a custom ROM or not.
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And the root exploit has been patched. So maybe not the best phone if you can't stand TW/absolutely can't stand not running a custom ROM unless you can get one that has not had the patch installed.
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Verification on this statement? I gotta swap mine out for a warranty issue, hoping this isn't true. I haven't found anything else to confirm this....
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prenedo said:
Verification on this statement? I gotta swap mine out for a warranty issue, hoping this isn't true. I haven't found anything else to confirm this....
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The exploit has been patched, but the S5 has not received an update. So there is a chance the warranty replacement you receive may be ok, as long as the kernel is before June 3.
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Is their a cyanogenmod version that works for non developers editions of the verizon note. I just got my note 3 and without cyanogenmod it would stink.. has the bootloader been unlocked ?
No, still can't flash custom kernels
mjh68 said:
No, still can't flash custom kernels
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there are may subjects and threads on this matter. I realized that not everyone understands everything, but if you know enough to register on this site, you must know how to use the search function.
to sum up:
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for the time being s4 and above on verizon wont be able to run aosp roms*
*besides developers edition. (if you have to ask, you don't have one)
dogenut said:
Is their a cyanogenmod version that works for non developers editions of the verizon note. I just got my note 3 and without cyanogenmod it would stink.. has the bootloader been unlocked ?
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i did the same thing back in January and i'm kicking myself in the ass for not doing a lot more research first. samsung software has got to be the worst, thats why this phone has 3 gb ram. use towel root and at least get root access to shut half the ****ty software off. the custom roms for this phone are just rework versions of bloatwiz.
That blows... has anyone been working on it ?
dogenut said:
That blows... has anyone been working on it ?
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The likelihood that our bootloader will even be unlocked or that any real development will go into kexec allowing us to flash custom kernels is probably close to 0%, meaning there will not be a cyanogenmod for retail N3.
However, if you are looking for a closer to AOSP rom check out Eclipse Rom. The dev has put much coding into the rom to make it feel like AOSP, it's not without its faults but what rom is perfect?
Also the devs for Alliance Rom have said they will be releasing an AOSP version in the future and many people are looking forward to that.
With practically any rom you will find yourself uninstalling a lot of bloatware unless you are one of the few who bought a Samsung device to use the proprietary software.
Either way, have fun.
Is such a thing possible without waiting/hoping for a bootloader unlock to run AOSP style roms? My curiosity has been peaked if building vanilla android over the stock kernel is possible. Ive always hated touchwiz with a passion and now im kicking myself for not getting the dev edition (I kinda hoped bootloader unlock would come around much quicker). Anybody know of such a thing being done or if its even possible? I am by no means a developer, but well into being considered a "power user"
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Is such a thing possible without waiting/hoping for a bootloader unlock to run AOSP style roms? My curiosity has been peaked if building vanilla android over the stock kernel is possible. Ive always hated touchwiz with a passion and now im kicking myself for not getting the dev edition (I kinda hoped bootloader unlock would come around much quicker). Anybody know of such a thing being done or if its even possible? I am by no means a developer, but well into being considered a "power user"
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Not possible as far as I know. TouchWiz is heavily integrated into the stock system and kernel. You'd need a AOSP compatible kernel to run AOSP.
Something like this is the closest we will get to AOSP. Theamed TW is it for our locked bootloaders.
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Something like this is the closest we will get to AOSP. Theamed TW is it for our locked bootloaders.
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That ROM actually looks really good. Any way to flash it to the g900v?
Riot81 said:
That ROM actually looks really good. Any way to flash it to the g900v?
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Most likely not because all the coding that went into the ROM. You could always buy @nitroglycerine33 a VZW GS5.
Riot81 said:
That ROM actually looks really good. Any way to flash it to the g900v?
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I ran Nitro's Eclipse ROM on my Moto Razr Maxx HD and my Dev Edition S4. Great ROMs. When I went to the Dev Edition S5 I asked him if he would make a S5 version of the Eclipse ROM. He said he had no plans to buy an S5, so no, that is not going to happen.
Who shall be the first to build ?
The race is on
Buahahhahahhaha
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Who shall be the first to build ?
The race is on
Buahahhahahhaha
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Source ?
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shahkam said:
Source ?
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...roid-5-0-lollipop-source-code-aosp-right-now/
I'm OK now, I'm happy to have waited this long for an AOSP ROM.
I can wait longer if it becomes a L ROM for our G3!!
Great news !
it's hard to say...i'm working on a lollypop port since weeks now and the main problem is a kernel panic related to the modem resetting.. i think that once i will figure out how to solve it i will be able to release a first beta
It is usually very hard to get new android versions ported to a device where there is no official rom of the same version for it - you basically are going in blind trying to get all the hardware to work.
If we are lucky we might see one or two builds before LG release theirs (which is now less than 2 months away!) but I would expect them to be buggy with some hardware not working - so far we don't even have a fully working Kitkat AOSP build for our device.
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it's hard to say...i'm working on a lollypop port since weeks now and the main problem is a kernel panic related to the modem resetting.. i think that once i will figure out how to solve it i will be able to release a first beta
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good luck bro!!! lets see if you can beat LG to the draw...
please keep us posted!!!
Thanks in advance
Deeemm79 said:
good luck bro!!! lets see if you can beat LG to the draw...
please keep us posted!!!
Thanks in advance
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if someone would like to help here is last_kmsg at the very end you'll find the kernel panic about modem
bah, who needs the LG Lollipop rom? probably gonna have their own skin again which, in my opinion, is inferior to stock lollipop. plus, if you have not read, Android 5.0 Lollipop gives developers the option to completely lockdown devices and prevent root, specifically in our devices where bootloader is not unlockable. Don't think I'll take the risk though. It's a huge one!
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-l-lockdown/
Oooh. I so happy. ????
jayzhoukj said:
bah, who needs the LG Lollipop rom? probably gonna have their own skin again which, in my opinion, is inferior to stock lollipop. plus, if you have not read, Android 5.0 Lollipop gives developers the option to completely lockdown devices and prevent root, specifically in our devices where bootloader is not unlockable. Don't think I'll take the risk though. It's a huge one!
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-l-lockdown/
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this is true although (and i may well be wrong) i would presume this would only apply if you take the update from OEM and not custom rom .... if we take a flashable custom rom i would assume that this lockdown is completely irrelevant and fairly risk free providing the devs can get all the hardware side of things up and running
ah yes, you are right. personally though i would prefer to go straight to stock rom after rooting. not really sure what the difference is (if any big changes) between a rooted and non-rooted stock rom
jayzhoukj said:
ah yes, you are right. personally though i would prefer to go straight to stock rom after rooting. not really sure what the difference is (if any big changes) between a rooted and non-rooted stock rom
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that all depends what you want to be able to do on your device ..... without root you cannot use xposed (although until made to run on ART it wont work with lollipop onwards ) ... you need root to delete / modify any / all system apps and other tweaks under the hood ..... there are many things you could need root for
jayzhoukj said:
not really sure what the difference is (if any big changes) between a rooted and non-rooted stock rom
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Root alone does nothing. It's what you do with the elevated privileges that matters. With root access, you pretty much have complete control over the phone's software, so you can do next to nothing, or completely overhaul everything to the point where it is indistinguishable from a stock, non-modified phone.
By the way... If LG isn't blowing smoke up our backsides, we'll have a working Optimus UI w/ 5.0.. guessing 6 weeks, give or take. And it remains to be seen how quickly they release their sources. Until those sources are released, any 5.0 custom ROMs are going to be Lollipop on top of LG's KK stuff (kernel, radio/modem, graphics drivers, etc). Not sure how stable that will all be. My only experience with a phone running a ROM like that was running early KK builds on my old Galaxy S3, which was Android 4.4 built on top of Samsung's Jelly Bean stuff. And that was buggy as hell, tons of problems. Basic stuff, like every time it switched from Wi-Fi to mobile data, I got a kernel panic and it would reboot.
So I would be wary of any LP ROMs for the G3 that didn't include the native LP stuff from LG.
LeoRex said:
Root alone does nothing. It's what you do with the elevated privileges that matters. With root access, you pretty much have complete control over the phone's software, so you can do next to nothing, or completely overhaul everything to the point where it is indistinguishable from a stock, non-modified phone.
By the way... If LG isn't blowing smoke up our backsides, we'll have a working Optimus UI w/ 5.0.. guessing 6 weeks, give or take. And it remains to be seen how quickly they release their sources. Until those sources are released, any 5.0 custom ROMs are going to be Lollipop on top of LG's KK stuff (kernel, radio/modem, graphics drivers, etc). Not sure how stable that will all be. My only experience with a phone running a ROM like that was running early KK builds on my old Galaxy S3, which was Android 4.4 built on top of Samsung's Jelly Bean stuff. And that was buggy as hell, tons of problems. Basic stuff, like every time it switched from Wi-Fi to mobile data, I got a kernel panic and it would reboot.
So I would be wary of any LP ROMs for the G3 that didn't include the native LP stuff from LG.
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infact since 1 month i'm trying to port lollypop and i'm blocked by kernel panic at boot due to modem resetting
My concern is for our d850 development .... It will pick up im guessing
2SHAYNEZ
OEM Unlock feature in Lollipop dev options
Lollipop has an OEM Unlock feature in the development options. Chainfire already utilized it to root the N9. See attached.
so excited in looking forward to your effort - friends....
hwong96 said:
Lollipop has an OEM Unlock feature in the development options. Chainfire already utilized it to root the N9. See attached.
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OEM unlock meaning ?