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I want to buy it but I heard that so many people's Nexus 4 phones shattered out of the blue??? I treat my phones with delicacy but these people say their phones broke from being in their pocket with nothing else in it. I have a SGS2 and it doesn't have a single scratch or bend or any flaw on its hardware visible view
Agree. I have had an SGSII for 18 months, 12 months without any sort of screen protector and I haven't had a single scratch on the screen (touch wood).
Mine and most others are fine, shattered out of the blue is a misnomer really, just means the owner doesn't know how it got broken, obviously it's not going to spontaneously shatter.
thanks guys. I'd like if some other people also shared their hardware experience because I don't want to regret buying this phone hence I live in the Bahamas. this means I won't be able to return it if something happened as quick and would cost a lot of money
There's already a ton of threads and discussion on this, but I'll oblige OP and provide my experiences once again.
Some background on my phone usage: I came from a Galaxy S which had the previous generation of Gorilla Glass. After over two years of heavy use without a case or screen cover, my phone had two very minor but broad scratches that could only been seen with the screen off and at certain angles under certain lighting. Screen on, you would never know the phone wasn't brand new.
My N4 arrived last Monday (two days use thus far) and I removed the packaging films from the front and rear. Haven't got a case but I ordered the Poetic Slimbook case, which I expect in December.
I haven't dropped the N4 and have placed it on many different surfaces (Thanksgiving table in a room with over a dozen eaters, so the table wasn't very clean). My phones have always sat in my front pocket. While the N4 has been occupying this same space, I've heard it hit a few tables and counters, which left me grimacing on the inside.
However, I'm glad to say that my N4 is pristine and has zero scratches, scuffs, or signs of wear. Both glass faces have stayed spotless and the oleophobic coating works very well. The plastic edges have not scuffed either, and don't seem too have picked up any oil/grime.
I really don't expect my phone to get scratched in any way over the next few years. I only got the case for extra protection when I am out or traveling. Also, I like flip cases
I wouldn't recommend this phone if you tend to be reckless with your phone and can't own up to it, so you make threads saying the screen randomly cracked. Those people would probably "bump" into a Window and break it, then blame the manufacturer for not making the glass bulletproof. I'm sure a lot of iPhone 4/4S users have scratched or cracked the glass faces on their phones, but no one said those phones were too fragile. The N4 is just as durable, if not more durable that the previous generation iPhone. If you are honest with yourself and think that you would mutilate an iPhone 4/4S, you should get a case and screen protector for the N4. It's not unusually fragile in any sense. Pretty durable in my opinion.
Maybe in two to three years, I'll end up with a few minor scratches that are invisible when the screen is on. For me, it's a phone, not a piece of art that is meant to be seen and not held. I really doubt that I'll scratch the phone now that I'm a bit older and wiser. The scratches on my old phone can be attributed to very drunken nights and surprise encounters with broken glass containers. Or perhaps some an unfortunate meeting with silicate on my old lab bench. Regardless, I learned how to take care of my phone without babying it.
No offense, but assuming everyone whose Nexus 4 spontaneously shattered isn't telling the whole story or is otherwise irresponsible is jumping to conclusions.
I set mine down to charge, returned 2 hours later, and the back had shattered around the speaker hole and radiated cracks throughout the rest of the back. I have no explanation for this other than the glass is potentially also sensitive to temperature change (warming battery/cool countertop). In any case, the fragility of the back of this phone is patently absurd for a mobile device and we can only hope Google/LG step up to rectify it. The internals of the phone are otherwise fantastic and it's a powerful device.
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There's already a ton of threads and discussion on this, but I'll oblige OP and provide my experiences once again.
Some background on my phone usage: I came from a Galaxy S which had the previous generation of Gorilla Glass. After over two years of heavy use without a case or screen cover, my phone had two very minor but broad scratches that could only been seen with the screen off and at certain angles under certain lighting. Screen on, you would never know the phone wasn't brand new.
My N4 arrived last Monday (two days use thus far) and I removed the packaging films from the front and rear. Haven't got a case but I ordered the Poetic Slimbook case, which I expect in December.
I haven't dropped the N4 and have placed it on many different surfaces (Thanksgiving table in a room with over a dozen eaters, so the table wasn't very clean). My phones have always sat in my front pocket. While the N4 has been occupying this same space, I've heard it hit a few tables and counters, which left me grimacing on the inside.
However, I'm glad to say that my N4 is pristine and has zero scratches, scuffs, or signs of wear. Both glass faces have stayed spotless and the oleophobic coating works very well. The plastic edges have not scuffed either, and don't seem too have picked up any oil/grime.
I really don't expect my phone to get scratched in any way over the next few years. I only got the case for extra protection when I am out or traveling. Also, I like flip cases
I wouldn't recommend this phone if you tend to be reckless with your phone and can't own up to it, so you make threads saying the screen randomly cracked. Those people would probably "bump" into a Window and break it, then blame the manufacturer for not making the glass bulletproof. I'm sure a lot of iPhone 4/4S users have scratched or cracked the glass faces on their phones, but no one said those phones were too fragile. The N4 is just as durable, if not more durable that the previous generation iPhone. If you are honest with yourself and think that you would mutilate an iPhone 4/4S, you should get a case and screen protector for the N4. It's not unusually fragile in any sense. Pretty durable in my opinion.
Maybe in two to three years, I'll end up with a few minor scratches that are invisible when the screen is on. For me, it's a phone, not a piece of art that is meant to be seen and not held. I really doubt that I'll scratch the phone now that I'm a bit older and wiser. The scratches on my old phone can be attributed to very drunken nights and surprise encounters with broken glass containers. Or perhaps some an unfortunate meeting with silicate on my old lab bench. Regardless, I learned how to take care of my phone without babying it.
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No offense, but assuming everyone whose Nexus 4 spontaneously shattered isn't telling the whole story or is otherwise irresponsible is jumping to conclusions.
I set mine down to charge, returned 2 hours later, and the back had shattered around the speaker hole and radiated cracks throughout the rest of the back. I have no explanation for this other than the glass is potentially also sensitive to temperature change (warming battery/cool countertop). In any case, the fragility of the back of this phone is patently absurd for a mobile device and we can only hope Google/LG step up to rectify it. The internals of the phone are otherwise fantastic and it's a powerful device.
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That being said, there are a very small number of people who's phone "breaks all by itself", I would imagine given any population that has a new device there will be a similar number of people who reports these kinds of problems. If you're too worried about it, throw a case on it.
Then again, maybe the case will break on its own too.
Well, you can always put a case around the case.
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No offense, but assuming everyone whose Nexus 4 spontaneously shattered isn't telling the whole story or is otherwise irresponsible is jumping to conclusions.
I set mine down to charge, returned 2 hours later, and the back had shattered around the speaker hole and radiated cracks throughout the rest of the back. I have no explanation for this other than the glass is potentially also sensitive to temperature change (warming battery/cool countertop). In any case, the fragility of the back of this phone is patently absurd for a mobile device and we can only hope Google/LG step up to rectify it. The internals of the phone are otherwise fantastic and it's a powerful device.
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One time I was at my brother's place and he had this untouched Krispy Kreme donut just sitting on the table.
Two hours later he comes back and sees a bite in it and asked me who had eaten it...
My response?... nooo ideaaa!
potatomaster said:
No offense, but assuming everyone whose Nexus 4 spontaneously shattered isn't telling the whole story or is otherwise irresponsible is jumping to conclusions.
I set mine down to charge, returned 2 hours later, and the back had shattered around the speaker hole and radiated cracks throughout the rest of the back. I have no explanation for this other than the glass is potentially also sensitive to temperature change (warming battery/cool countertop). In any case, the fragility of the back of this phone is patently absurd for a mobile device and we can only hope Google/LG step up to rectify it. The internals of the phone are otherwise fantastic and it's a powerful device.
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News at 11. Guy with 4 posts and no credibility states his phone spontaneously cracked the back screen.
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I dropped this phone from 4 feet standing up from a chair on the patio, it was forcefully thrown from my lap, flipped multiple times, and skidded on "Cement", and not a scratch. Unless these ppl got some weird defaulted phone they are full of it.
Would I want to drop it again? Nope. But, the phone won't break from thin air. In fact every pic I have seen that had a broken screen/back, you could see the pressure spot where it was hit, smashed, and otherwise bludgeoned.
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News at 11. Guy with 4 posts and no credibility states his phone spontaneously cracked the back screen.
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I dropped this phone from 4 feet standing up from a chair on the patio, it was forcefully thrown from my lap, flipped multiple times, and skidded on "Cement", and not a scratch. Unless these ppl got some weird defaulted phone they are full of it.
Would I want to drop it again? Nope. But, the phone won't break from thin air. In fact every pic I have seen that had a broken screen/back, you could see the pressure spot where it was hit, smashed, and otherwise bludgeoned.
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Thanks, very realistic perspective. I really don't know whether to get the SGS3 or N4 the n4 is so sexy but many people say its fragile and I treat my phones with the most extreme care I can give. I've never dropped my SGS2 except thrown on my bed.
If your used to taking care of your devices, then you should have no problem with this awesome N4!
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News at 11. Guy with 4 posts and no credibility states his phone spontaneously cracked the back screen.
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I dropped this phone from 4 feet standing up from a chair on the patio, it was forcefully thrown from my lap, flipped multiple times, and skidded on "Cement", and not a scratch. Unless these ppl got some weird defaulted phone they are full of it.
Would I want to drop it again? Nope. But, the phone won't break from thin air. In fact every pic I have seen that had a broken screen/back, you could see the pressure spot where it was hit, smashed, and otherwise bludgeoned.
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similar story; mine slid off a paper towel machine in a public restroom hit HARD right on the front glass on the tile floor, bounced up and landed on the back. i thought for sure one or both sides was going to have a huge crack but to my pleasant surprise, neither side had any scratches.
...now if it spontaneously cracks the next time i charge it..i will deny any responsibility :laugh:
woah.. I guess the phone isn't as fragile as it sounds.. why are people saying there are random cracks already though? are those just false rumors to make LG look bad? I'm so afraid the phone will break out of the blue..
I was on the phone at a party someone bumped into me and I dropped it onto a stone tile floor..I'm 6feet tall so that's a pretty decent drop..the only mark I have on the phone is a small nick in the bezel..both front and back are in tact..don't go throwing it around but id say its pretty solid :laugh:
I was once interested in the Galaxy S4 Active, but four important things have kept me away from it altogether:
I just got the S4 in April, so I'd need to sell it to buy a new Active (and there would be a price difference of course).
The S4A is only waterproof to 3ft or so (some reports of less than that). And for only 30min at that.
Probably most importantly: I hear there's no liquid coverage in the warranty still, even though it's designed to be submerged!
8MP camera? What gives? One of the biggest bragging rights of the S4 is the 13MP camera.
That being said, I want to waterproof my S4, so that I can completely submerge it. I mean, like bottom-of-the-14ft-pool submerge, while still taking pictures, even. I'd consider hacking the S4A camera app onto the S4 just for the Aqua mode it has (and maybe try to hack in the 13MP capability too?).
Key thing, though: I don't normally use a case on my phone. I like the slimness of my naked phone.
So, I've seen different nano-coatings (liquipel for example - or even the NeverWet spray). Most of them coat the outside of the phone, and don't offer submersion as an option. They're designed for "accidental spills only". Here's what I want from a nano-coating:
Submersible to say, 15ft. Maybe 10ft would be acceptable.
No time limit.
I'm willing to completely disassemble my phone to coat the motherboard, inside and out, if needed.
Some form of guarantee against water damage would be nice. I swear that I saw one company that offered this, but I can't seem to find it now.
I'm curious how this stuff would work with heat dissipation on the motherboard components. Also, how well would the contacts work after? Examples would be the connections to the motherboard (for the screen, or daughterboard, or cameras...), or even the battery connection? Does nanocoating interfere with these?
Anywho, the point of this thread is to ask the S4 community about different brands of nano-coating/water-proofing options. It might be impossible to get exactly what I want, but I'd be curious to see how close I could get.
Thanks for your time.
I highly doubt you will find a nano coating that can meet your needs.
Regarding the neverwet spray, I recently read a review on it and it only lasted roughly 30 minutes in water before the coating began to deteriorate plus it makes the device sticky.
Your best bet would probably be a case even though you specifically asked for a nano coating. LifeProof juat recently released an S3 case and its safe too assume an S4 case is in the works aswell.
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I highly doubt you will find a nano coating that can meet your needs.
Regarding the neverwet spray, I recently read a review on it and it only lasted roughly 30 minutes in water before the coating began to deteriorate plus it makes the device sticky.
Your best bet would probably be a case even though you specifically asked for a nano coating. LifeProof juat recently released an S3 case and its safe too assume an S4 case is in the works aswell.
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Yeah, that's what I'm gathering. Thank you for the feedback. I did find that it was Liquipel that offers the guarantee against water damage, but only with accidental exposure only (explicitly prohibits intentional submersion). I happen to be travelling over in the L.A. area soon (near their HQ), so I've asked them two questions this weekend, without response:
If I were to bring in my device to have it treated, would they allow me to physically disassemble the device and let them place the individual components into the chamber?
If I were to invest in a nice waterproof case, and for some reason the case failed to protect the device, would the Liquipel guarantee protect the device at this point?
I'm thinking that a lot of these nano-coatings will give-out after 30 minutes of continuous water exposure. That's why I'm thinking of a really good waterproof case for intentional diving with the phone, and then the liquipel for all the accidental stuff (as intended). It'd be nice to go to a theme park and ride the water-rides without risking anything.
Eventually when LifeProof releases their Galaxy S4 case which shouldn't be that bulky in comparison too other waterproof cases you could buy the case and apply the Liquipel coating. This way you have a 2 step barrier for any water damage, if the case gives way too water, the liquipel should protect it and any damage should be covered by their warranty.
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Eventually when LifeProof releases their Galaxy S4 case which shouldn't be that bulky in comparison too other waterproof cases you could buy the case and apply the Liquipel coating. This way you have a 2 step barrier for any water damage, if the case gives way too water, the liquipel should protect it and any damage should be covered by their warranty.
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I called Liquipel today, because apparently the monkeys behind their keyboards don't respond to emails.
- They will allow me to disassemble the device, have it coated by them, and then I would have to re-assemble it myself. No problem.
- They recently had another customer with a LifeProof case file a claim. The LifeProof case leaked on his iPhone (dunno which model) without the customer knowing, and the water sat for a long time. The corrosion/etc. that resulted was too great, and Liquipel would not cover the device. The customer had to buy a new device, which Liquipel subsequently treated the new device for free.
But yeah, if LifeProof created a case for S3, there's little doubt they would not create one for the S4. The only fallback would be if the S3 case didn't sell well - at which point they might re-think creating a case for the S4.
It's pretty late here so i'm going to keep this simple.
I preordered a black s7 the day it was announced, got it on March 7. Had an s6 before.
It's amazing and all, but what was not so amazing for me was the water resistance.
It got pretty dirty after 1 day of use, so I thought it was a good idea to gently wash it with water and soap - Samsung claims it's water resistant, right?
As soon as i finished washing it, the phone started acting like I was pressing the volume down button. Shortly after that, it started showing the wireless charging animation, again and again.
I decided to power it off, I got my hair dryer and I ejected the sim tray ; was very surprised to find water all over my sim card and the sim tray itself. The water damage indicator/sticker was also touched by the water, making it turn from white to red/pink.
After heating it up with the hair dryer moderately, I powered it on. Surprise, it won't get past the "Galaxy S7" boot screen, like most Samsung Galaxy phones do in case water enters the phone.
It was rebooting after 10 seconds and doing the same thing. This lasted for 10 minutes. My biggest concern here was amoled burn in (google it if you don't know what it means). I managed to boot to recovery and power it off.
I waited for this phone a lot, 3 months to be exact, and turning it into a brick after 1 day of having it is not a good feeling at all.
I put my phone in a bag of rice and left it on the desk. 3 hours later (i had to go somewhere), I got it out of the bag of rice, and powered it on. It went to recovery, I chose to reboot to system, and it did boot. All the features and sensors were working.
Last night I tried rebooting it and it would do the same thing like it did after I washed it. Left it in rice overnight and today morning it booted up. So yeah, something is still broken, but at least I have it working now.
I think the soap caused the water to enter the phone.
I suggest you don't try to wash your phone like I did.
wow. so much for water resistance.
*edit*whoops didn't read the part about soap. yeah, only like lukewarm water they suggest.
Water Resistant, Not waterproof. Tell Samsung about this and they'll tell you all about it.
Water resistant means just that it doesn't mean that it is solvent or cleaner resistant, no cleaners ever just water I feel your pain sir I had to learn this the hard way as well.
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Why on earth did you use soap? :silly:
Soap lower water surface tension and make water more intrusive though small opening I guess.
So don't use soap lol.
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OP, you'll have fanbois jumping all over you wanting to educate you on water resistance and water proof like its rocket science. Point is that they are all wrong. IP 68 means you should be able to do exactly what you did - wash your phone off in water for a few minutes. These S7s just don't seem to be holding up to their IP 68 ratings (I returned an Edge because an underwater photo caused water resistance to fail and fast charging to not work anymore).
Feel your pain. Send it back under buyer's remorse and get another one.
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OP, you'll have fanbois jumping all over you wanting to educate you on water resistance and water proof like its rocket science. Point is that they are all wrong. IP 68 means you should be able to do exactly what you did - wash your phone off in water for a few minutes. These S7s just don't seem to be holding up to their IP 68 ratings (I returned an Edge because an underwater photo caused water resistance to fail and fast charging to not work anymore).
Feel your pain. Send it back under buyer's remorse and get another one.
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OP used soap. It wasn't the water, it was the soap. Soap is a base and messes up all kinds of things. Possibly reacted with the nano coating or the seals.
I've washed my S5 several times with soap - and that is only IP67-rated. Should be fine.
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OP used soap. It wasn't the water, it was the soap.
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This is a fact:
NonXtreme said:
Soap lower water surface tension and make water more intrusive though small opening I guess.
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A few weeks ago I watched a video on how Samsung obtained it's IP68 rating for the S7/E. The video explicitly mentions relying on the surface tension of water to keep it out of microscreens for components like the speaker. Lower the surface tension of water, and it will flow places it didn't before.
Lesson learned for all of us.
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I've washed my S5 several times with soap - and that is only IP67-rated. Should be fine.
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Apples to oranges. The two devices have totally different construction. Anyone who takes your advice with an S7/E is headed for the same trouble as the OP.
After checking out a teardown of an S5, I do see the difference speakerwise - the S5 have a selfcontained speaker, which can handle water - while the S7 doesn't and as you said, relies on surface tension. That's not good..
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After checking out a teardown of an S5, I do see the difference speakerwise - the S5 have a selfcontained speaker, which can handle water - while the S7 doesn't and as you said, relies on surface tension. That's not good..
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And the S5 doesn't have internal gaskets on an SIM/SD slot or it's USB port.
wpbogdan said:
It's pretty late here so i'm going to keep this simple.
I preordered a black s7 the day it was announced, got it on March 7. Had an s6 before.
It's amazing and all, but what was not so amazing for me was the water resistance.
It got pretty dirty after 1 day of use
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You should have learned at the physics classes in school that water does not conduct electricity, but as soon as you add soap it becomes a conductor. So you have shorted all the exposed connections, like the USB pins, headphone jack pins and what not. The water resistance of the phone is not based on protecting the SIM tray, the seals are between the SIM tray and the rest of the phone, so you also shorted the SIM contacts.
At least now you know
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You should have learned at the physics classes in school that water does not conduct electricity, but as soon as you add soap it becomes a conductor. So you have shorted all the exposed connections, like the USB pins, headphone jack pins and what not. The water resistance of the phone is not based on protecting the SIM tray, the seals are between the SIM tray and the rest of the phone, so you also shorted the SIM contacts.
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And that's why all my phone's features still work and nothing is damaged?
Thanks to everyone who replied to my thread, I went today to the carrier I bought the phone from (Orange)'s store and they told me to send it to warranty, and that's what i'm going to do. Hopefully i get my phone replaced, lol
It sucks that if i want it to boot i have to wait a day with my phone in rice, that also means bye bye installing new firmware which is the reason why i'm sending it to warranty since I always loved flashing custom roms, besides that I wouldn't really mind waiting a day for it to boot but I'm afraid that one day it will not boot anymore.
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And that's why all my phone's features still work and nothing is damaged?
Thanks to everyone who replied to my thread, I went today to the carrier I bought the phone from (Orange)'s store and they told me to send it to warranty, and that's what i'm going to do. Hopefully i get my phone replaced, lol
It sucks that if i want it to boot i have to wait a day with my phone in rice, that also means bye bye installing new firmware which is the reason why i'm sending it to warranty since I always loved flashing custom roms, besides that I wouldn't really mind waiting a day for it to boot but I'm afraid that one day it will not boot anymore.
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You don't have "buyer's remorse" where you live? Here in the US, we get 14 days (20 in some cases) to return the phone no questions asked for a full refund.
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And that's why all my phone's features still work and nothing is damaged?
Thanks to everyone who replied to my thread, I went today to the carrier I bought the phone from (Orange)'s store and they told me to send it to warranty, and that's what i'm going to do. Hopefully i get my phone replaced, lol
It sucks that if i want it to boot i have to wait a day with my phone in rice, that also means bye bye installing new firmware which is the reason why i'm sending it to warranty since I always loved flashing custom roms, besides that I wouldn't really mind waiting a day for it to boot but I'm afraid that one day it will not boot anymore.
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Hmmm, I could swear I saw somewhere that Samsung will look for the white tags that turn pink when wet. If they see that the tag got wet then they won't honor a warranty. Not sure if this is true but somewhere today I read that. I think it was that tear down of the S7 ifixit did. or it was a link from there.
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Hmmm, I could swear I saw somewhere that Samsung will look for the white tags that turn pink when wet. If they see that the tag got wet then they won't honor a warranty. Not sure if this is true but somewhere today I read that. I think it was that tear down of the S7 ifixit did. or it was a link from there.
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You can see them clearly in this video:
I have an update, and I want to describe here exactly what happens every time I power it on:
Galaxy S7 screen -> boots straight into recovery.
Every time I reboot from recovery it does the following:
Galaxy S7 screen -> completely black screen -> Galaxy S7 screen -> recovery.
Every single time it enters recovery, it displays an android figure with two refresh arrows spinning, then displaying a yellow exclamation mark warning and shows the recovery options. Does it do this only for me or for you guys too?
I have tried to:
reflash the rom both via odin and kies
factory reset a bunch of times
wipe cache a bunch of times
I have done everything possible to get rid of ALL the water, and I'm sure there is no more water in it. I vacuum'ed the motherboard and left it in rice for 3 nights. does the same thing.
Warranty is also gone because the water damage indicator turned red/pink from white.
I think it's either permanent physical damage to the motherboard, or the water damaged the emmc chip and somehow corrupted the memory (???)
I also made a video of me powering it on, then rebooting it, but I'm unable to post it because new members can't post links until they've reached 10 posts.
also sorry for any grammar mistakes it's 6am lol
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Water Resistant, Not waterproof. Tell Samsung about this and they'll tell you all about it.
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Actually by stating that it's IP68, it should mean that the device is indeed water PROOF. IDK why would samsung conflict the two things. If it's water resistant only, samsung should've stated that it's only IP67. False advertisement don't you think?
True story:
When he was 8, my little brother snuck our pet snapping turtles out into the woods behind our house and played with them in a muddy puddle. Thinking he would get in trouble for taking them out of their bowl and getting them dirty, he washed them with soap and hot water, which killed them. I was traumatized by their deaths, and have never used soap since.
So at least my S7E is safe.
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Well yes. Samsung said "water resistant", not "water proof", which means it's supposed to resist against water under certain conditions (up to 1.5m for 30mins), not function under it. The capacitive screen and capacitive buttons work with anything that holds an electrical charge, including pool water because it contains ions in it, so that's why they were being pressed.
But indeed, you are right with about not intentionally doing anything out of the ordinary, trying to test the water resistance. It is more of a safety feature, and Samsung is mistaking by advertising otherwise (they don't always do this).
I tried it several times - dived under water and take pictures with it or videos and everything is working just fine. But as I am reading more and more things about non water proof s7 edge I am starting to think that next time I better wont take my phone under water.
You don't understand physics,don't you? You can submerge the phone in shallow water - let's say it drops in your cereal bowl.
But if you take it to the pool and swim with it this is what gonna happen - you swim - therefore you move - the water "hits" your phone with a certain pressure,depending on your swimming speed.
So if you put your phone in a bowl with water and MOVE the phone very fast the water pressure on the ports will be like it's submerged under 10 feet of water
You get it? It's for accidents,its not the bext Go Pro Pool Edition.
I am really curious,if you buy a hatchet,do you try to cut your fingers with it to see if it works?
People will come here to inform themselves about the phone,maybe they want to buy it.
What they see? A post about a faulty phone - guess what - samsung never said about WATERPROOF - its WATERRESISTANT. Stop spreading these false informations.
I swum with the edge several times and never had a problem with it. I took some beautiful pictures under water. My experience is no guarantee for everybody
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You don't understand physics,don't you? You can submerge the phone in shallow water - let's say it drops in your cereal bowl.
But if you take it to the pool and swim with it this is what gonna happen - you swim - therefore you move - the water "hits" your phone with a certain pressure,depending on your swimming speed.
So if you put your phone in a bowl with water and MOVE the phone very fast the water pressure on the ports will be like it's submerged under 10 feet of water
You get it? It's for accidents,its not the bext Go Pro Pool Edition.
I am really curious,if you buy a hatchet,do you try to cut your fingers with it to see if it works?
People will come here to inform themselves about the phone,maybe they want to buy it.
What they see? A post about a faulty phone - guess what - samsung never said about WATERPROOF - its WATERRESISTANT. Stop spreading these false informations.
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I didnt swim, I submerged it underwater for 4 seconds. Not more than that. it wasnt deep. just under the surface,
I didnt stop people from buying it, its the best samsung phone i have ever owned. I just wanted to caution them to not try submerging it without any reason, just to be safe. i dont think i said it will be the same for everybody. I shared my scary experience. thats all?
Mehigh101 said:
You don't understand physics,don't you? You can submerge the phone in shallow water - let's say it drops in your cereal bowl.
But if you take it to the pool and swim with it this is what gonna happen - you swim - therefore you move - the water "hits" your phone with a certain pressure,depending on your swimming speed.
So if you put your phone in a bowl with water and MOVE the phone very fast the water pressure on the ports will be like it's submerged under 10 feet of water
You get it? It's for accidents,its not the bext Go Pro Pool Edition.
I am really curious,if you buy a hatchet,do you try to cut your fingers with it to see if it works?
People will come here to inform themselves about the phone,maybe they want to buy it.
What they see? A post about a faulty phone - guess what - samsung never said about WATERPROOF - its WATERRESISTANT. Stop spreading these false informations.
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Calm down and dont say crap that doesnt interest anyone. thx
marahlad said:
I am starting to think that next time I better wont take my phone under water.
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You should have had this brilliant thought from the beginning. This feature is just meant to save your phone and money in an unfortunate situation.
Cst79 said:
You should have had this brilliant thought from the beginning. This feature is just meant to save your phone and money in an unfortunate situation.
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I dont want to know your opinion about how am I using MY phone. I am just sharing my experiences about this topic.
Cst79 said:
You should have had this brilliant thought from the beginning. This feature is just meant to save your phone and money in an unfortunate situation.
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Really?
Samsung doesn't really portray it is such in their advertisements!
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=Q_8AYvFrLO0
It's all very well being judgemental, but when Samsung put out adverts like this you'd have a put the blame on Samsung for actively encouraging people to dunk their phones!
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Calm down and dont say crap that doesnt interest anyone. thx
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Well, it's not crap, it's educational, which you seem to be allergic to, hence your weird reaction. Secondly, I find it pretty interesting so your last statement is wrong, thus I'm gonna have to ask you to stop talking on behalf of other people. You certainly don't know sh*t about anyone around here. Summary: The only one talking crap here would be you.
It wasn't meant to be used underwater. It's kinda like a safety feature if you accidentally dropped it in water and quickly react to taking it out. Pretty sure pool water has various salts so that kinda factors in too.
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gessus wessus... doesn't matter what word or definition is used, the s7 phone has good gaskets and can exceed the ipx ratings stated which is total submersion for the defined period of time.
The next time you spend a weeks wage on a water resistant phone, briefly inspect the ports and make sure they are sealed and put the phone underwater for the stated amount of time and if it breaks get a refund because it's defective, if it works, then you're good to go.
mine has survived the pool and the beach many times ( I spray water repellent on it for salt water use, the non electrical conducting lubricants, before and after, e.g inox marine, wd40 isn't as good but cheaper and comes in a tiny pen style dispenser).
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Really?
Samsung doesn't really portray it is such in their advertisements!
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=Q_8AYvFrLO0
It's all very well being judgemental, but when Samsung put out adverts like this you'd have a put the blame on Samsung for actively encouraging people to dunk their phones!
Regards,
Dave
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Its champagne resistant...
There are also many ways to damaged or destroy the seals in the s7 edge.
Like salt water, water with chlor, bending the phone in tight jeans....
I can vouch for the high quality water resistance. Even with the S5 I had 3 good years of using it as a snorkeling camera, shower radio and regularly washing it under the tap to freshen it up. It became a hand me down to my little cousin as soon as the S7 was released. I now do the same with my S7 all the time, it's even more water resistant than the S5 and it was advertised as an underwater camera. It works flawlessly. I even rinse it off to cool it down after long sessions of VR. It drops from 35 degrees Celsius to 25 in 5 seconds. Stop being so paranoid. The phone is really as water resistant as it claims to be. The only reason why it's not "water proof" is because there is no industrial standard by which you can call something water proof.
Well a friend of mine left his S7E in a hottub at 80c and 1.5m underwater for anhour phone still works just fine.
+1 Well said. LOL!!!
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Well, it's not crap, it's educational, which you seem to be allergic to, hence your weird reaction. Secondly, I find it pretty interesting so your last statement is wrong, thus I'm gonna have to ask you to stop talking on behalf of other people. You certainly don't know sh*t about anyone around here. Summary: The only one talking crap here would be you.
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indigobv said:
Well yes. Samsung said "water resistant", not "water proof", which means it's supposed to resist against water under certain conditions (up to 1.5m for 30mins), not function under it. The capacitive screen and capacitive buttons work with anything that holds an electrical charge, including pool water because it contains ions in it, so that's why they were being pressed.
But indeed, you are right with about not intentionally doing anything out of the ordinary, trying to test the water resistance. It is more of a safety feature, and Samsung is mistaking by advertising otherwise (they don't always do this).
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Sooo, I did test the phone half submerged in a gently flowing river and I can tell you that it isn't waterproof under that condition. Condensation under the camera lens showed up within 1/2 an hour. Screen started going purple within hours. Take this as an example of a real world test.
ok, how about using it under the rain? i wouldn't dip it in pool water but anyone tried using it in the rain?
I have a question, it seems both LG and Samsung say they won't warranty the phone for water damage even though its supposed to be waterproof for up to 30 minutes or whatever. But if its waterproof and falls in water and gets damaged, would't that qualify as a defective phone?
I've been dying to get a waterproof phone as it is just easier when I'm in the pool with the kids and can keep the phone near by, in the jacuzzi etc, but does no good if the phone could be defective out of the box and the companies won't cover it.
It's not waterproof, it's water resistant. That's why they won't warranty for water damage.
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The below is a quote from a Samsung PDF I just found on their site about the S7 series. Clearly they are made to survive being dropped in water same as the s8. But what if I or you or anyone else gets the one that isn't completely sealed?
"The Samsung Galaxy S7 and S7 edge devices
have been certified to an IP68 rating. The Samsung Galaxy S7 and S7 edge are built to do
more, in more places. With an IP68 rating, they’re water resistant to a maximum depth of 1.5m
for up to 30 minutes, and are protected from dust, dirt and sand - all without the need for extra
caps or covers. Now there’s less to worry about. You can enjoy more freedom to explore, stay
connected, and capture the adventure."
Nota-joke : I'm wondering if OEMs are not just anticipating people who would daily wash their phone with soap (detergent)...
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Nota-joke : I'm wondering if OEMs are not just anticipating people who would daily wash their phone with soap (detergent)...
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**** we're not supposed to do that now???
I have a Sony that's IP68 and this has always been a perplexing question. Sony changed their warranty terms a couple of years ago to make it worthless. If water intrudes through the port seals, then it must be user error. But what if the seals are defective?
I don't blame them for not warranty water proof. You can only go so deep in the water for this phone and there is no proof of how far the person put it
My son was watching the sexy Sax man video in the tub last night underwater on the s8+... No problems at all but wifi starts having trouble while in the water lol
Don't worry about if if you have insurance, enjoy.. I'm ready to take off the case as well to enjoy the phone ad the designers intended..
If you want to live in fear and not enjoy the device go right ahead.. But life life.. Its only a phone.
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I don't blame them for not warranty water proof. You can only go so deep in the water for this phone and there is no proof of how far the person put it
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Exactly, they'd just open the floodgates for all sorts of dubious claims.
Just be sensible. It's not like Samsung are just making it up, it's rated by an independent body. You'll be fine with it next to the pool, just don't start putting it in salt water (or chlorine?) or going deep sea diving with it.
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robl45 said:
I have a question, it seems both LG and Samsung say they won't warranty the phone for water damage even though its supposed to be waterproof for up to 30 minutes or whatever. But if its waterproof and falls in water and gets damaged, would't that qualify as a defective phone?
I've been dying to get a waterproof phone as it is just easier when I'm in the pool with the kids and can keep the phone near by, in the jacuzzi etc, but does no good if the phone could be defective out of the box and the companies won't cover it.
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I fixed phones for Samsung and I can tell you, liquid damage does not fall under the warranty. Even if the phone is in perfect state.
They even make commercials with people jumping in a pool with an S8, but I wouldn't risk it if it's not insured.
I am talking mainly about S7 and S7 edge here because there are more S7 owners. But that one also has a water resistant label on it. Yet I always had to charge people for it. Not sure about the S8. Most S8 with liquid damage I fixed had cracked screens. They did seem more protected on the inside and thicker tapes.
Biggest thing I tell people is just because it is dont mean you have to...
Think about repeated water contact on the usb ports I dont care all metals will eventually oxidize or corrode which will lead to usb problems at minimum..I have a rubber plug in mine as I live in a near 6 months out of the year winter area means loads of salt and snow or moisture....
The whole idea rite now of water resistant phone is basically if you get soaked in the rain or somethin you phone is not destroyed...
1.5 m means standing water...No showers no pool showers are jets of pressurized water and can compromise the water seals...
Most swimming pools public at least are more than 1.5 meters deep.....
Why risk a 5 6 7 hundred dollar device to Go swimming or stuff like that...
*Galaxy S8 and S8+ are rated IP68, meaning they were tested to be resistant to dust and up to 1.5 meters of water for 30 minutes.
As advertised on there website.
My S8 fell into a bowl of cold fresh water about 5 inches deep for about 5 seconds, now its stopped working and Samsung telling me manufacture warranty is void for liquid damage.
My Note 8 had a few dead pixels in bottom left corner. I sent in for warranty repair (11 months old). The phone has never been near water. I got phone back from service center with a water damage note saying warranty was void. Its a Standard Samsung reply to void all warranty claims. They included a photo of a mother board with my IMI number hand written on it. In my experience tearing down older phones the IMI number is clearly labeled on the Motherboard which it wasn't in the case of the photo sent to me.
I expect dead pixels on the screens are going to be a big warranty Item for Samsung and they are trying to mitigate using the water damage clause. I will never by a Samsung product again.
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I m the owner of an s8 plus and Samsung says that the phone comes with ip68 and my question is since I was in water park and after coming from water my phone's display got colour damage there is not even a single dent in screen or in the phone but when I do the brightness low the phone start's becoming like rainbow and now I'm in the service centre of the Samsung and know they are saying the warranty of of ip68 is only stands for 1 year
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I m the owner of an s8 plus and Samsung says that the phone comes with ip68 and my question is since I was in water park and after coming from water my phone's display got colour damage there is not even a single dent in screen or in the phone but when I do the brightness low the phone start's becoming like rainbow and now I'm in the service centre of the Samsung and know they are saying the warranty of of ip68 is only stands for 1 year
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Samsung does not cover water damage. The phones warranty is only 1 year salt and pool water are devastating to the seals. Samsung is being sued in Australia over this on the s10