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Like i told a lot of time i will record slow-motion video about jelly bean animations on galaxy s3. A lot of people on forum debate with me about "smooth" animation on cm10 (which is also my favorite rom) and i want to show how that look really compared to samsung jelly bean leaks.
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[What i really did?]
As i say, i compare two builds side by side. On left side in video is last (on date: 22.09.2012.) build from samsung xxdli8 against on right side cyanogenmod 10 i9300 build from 20.09.2012. (with hw composer from "stollen" i9305 source)
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[Technical details about video]
Video is recoreded with high speed camera, 100 frames per second, resolution 640x480. In video you can see that display updates produce some "flickering" effects. That's because Super AMOLED use 60fps refresh rate and video is recored with much more frames per second.
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[Idea of this video]
First of all BIG THANKS to Team Hacksung and other CM developers. This video is not made to put negative things in front of CM team hard work. This is made to show problem that this amazing device have with all custom ROMs (because everything is based on CM framework)
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#VIDEO
Please watch in HD
Waiting for comments...
Sorry if my language is hard to understand but I try my best
It's normal that CM10 is not that smooth. We are waiting for the proper kernel sources after all.
PS: Your english is perfect.
Jack Barrett said:
It's normal that CM10 is not that smooth. We are waiting for the proper kernel sources after all.
PS: Your english is perfect.
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An bad joke?
Not really? It's good.
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Wow, disaster
That's maybe true, but I SEE HOW FAST IS GALAXY NEXUS and Galaxy S3 is much better device, but slower (right now).
Anyway, if you thinking like that "everything is already perfect, but everybody is unhappy" technology will be stopped in progress...
stefanACM said:
...technology will be stopped in progress...
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the technology is already there, ur just mad that it doesnt work (actually it does work - just not perfectly) for your particular device
Lolz dude u targetted the only thing in samsung jb rom thats like really smooth vs cm...now dont get me wrong m a sammy fan..runin li8 maself but u should really try comparing opening animation inside settings app for example..sound..display..about phone..damn u dont even need a high tech camera to see how much their transition lag..apart from that nice work mate!
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Let's be clear.
ANIMATION is just ANIMATION. All animations are 2 time smoother on XXDLI8, but when you click "Sound" in settings for example, Samsung ROM loading a lot of stuffs and it takes 1-2 seconds, than phone show perfectly smooth ANIMATION. So, animation smoothness is better, but everything else is slow on Samsung Jelly Bean leaks. Like I say, I am big fun of CyanogenMod and I waiting for an build that will have smooth animations like Samsung ROM and I will never back to Samsung.
BTW.
I installed CM9 + Jelly Bean Animation MOD and everything is almost smooth like Samsung JB...
i dont see any big difference in this comparison.
bala_gamer said:
i dont see any big difference in this comparison.
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??? I see a very clear difference... there's a very obvious double stutter with the cm10 based ROM which isnt anywhere near ad bad on the Sammy based ROM.
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Ah crap - and here I taught the CM10 builds already contain the JB features. Will then have to wait or even go back to stock as the animation makes a large amount up for (perceived) user experience. Makes me even doubt more why even going through the hassle of going custom ROM. A person losses just too many native features for a little bit of performance gain, and depending on usage, battery life. What a shame as I do enjoy the minimal app approach but if a premium phone's capability are cut I would have rather gotten a cheaper phone which is supported by CM10 or stay with fully functioning stock ROM.
Great post, non biased reporting and extremely informative. There is no way that the info you presented can be taken out of context, misinterpreted or downplayed. Hope it makes some positive ways
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Eh? Shouldn't the Samsung rom have more animations since touchwiz is heavier with animations? What do you think skins are? They don't add less animation on purpose or take away animations from stock, that is just retarded. It is the increased amount of frames that make skins slower than AOSP.
In slow mo tests skins should always >>>>>>>>>>>> CM10 and AOSP.
In speed tests it would be the other way around.
So in theory, Sense 4.0 would win this slo mo test easily with their ridiculous amounts of 3D animations and weather animations that make everything stutter and slow when it chugs. Just that it would look good in slo mo because it wouldn't be fast enough to notice the stutter. LOL
Cm10 isn't as smooth as the sammy. From what I saw at least!!
Sent from either Galaxy S3 intl or Nexus 7
both on stock at the moment!!
I was also disappointed with cm10, wasn't very smooth, it is better on the nexus. And also on the nexus it isn't as smooth as the stock or AOSP roms. But on the s3 it's probably because they don't I the sources yet...
Nice vid
Still going to use cm10 though and not JB leaks.
Thanks everybody for commencts,
Next video will be Samsung Leak vs CM9 with JB Mod animations, but until then I guess CM10 will be fixed soon.
I really would like to see Galaxy Nexus over Galaxy S3 (DLI8)
That's Galaxy Nexus right?
codeworkx said:
There's another one:
cm-10-20120922-2-EXPERIMENTAL-i9300-CODEWORKX.zip
http://developer.clockworkmod.com/d...0-20120922-2-EXPERIMENTAL-i9300-CODEWORKX.zip
- updated kernel sources
- mali r3p0
- latest drivers from LI8
That's basically everything we can do.
New leaks and a official source release won't make it better than it is.
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nice,...
can you u do it with the latest experimental
it looks like everything is fixed in it,..
Hey guys well it seem after watching all the speed tests on youtube, the iphone 5 is generally faster, but the catch is the S3 is running ICS with touch wiz. But i havent seen 1 video were they do a speed test with the S3 running stock jelly bean vs iphone 5! or maybe a touch wiz S3 vs a stock jelly S3, does someone know of one or can make one?
cyprusx said:
Hey guys well it seem after watching all the speed tests on youtube, the iphone 5 is generally faster, but the catch is the S3 is running ICS with touch wiz. But i havent seen 1 video were they do a speed test with the S3 running stock jelly bean vs iphone 5! or maybe a touch wiz S3 vs a stock jelly S3, does someone know of one or can make one?
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How du you want to do this when there isn't a 100% working 4.1.1 JB for international I9300 S3 in the air?
I think the polish version is not what Samsung wanted, perhaps it was a mistake that it was officially released and and they realised it too late?
I dont know, but I will wait until the real JB is released, it can only be a week or two. (i hope)
THEN I am sure the S3 is as fast as the iPhone 5 and much better overall. The google speak assistant is way better than siri. :good:
lienot
Yes I know of the official Touchwiz jelly bean will be faster but I want to see a stock Jelly bean speed comparison without touchwiz, isn't there a stable rom now like resurrection rom?
These iPhone comparison threads are not getting us anywhere. It will surely get locked.
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iPhone5 might be faster even with official JB out but that doesn't mean that it can replace android customisation, great screen size and color, and many more great features of the s3
F|_|C|< iSUCK5
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1. Wait till final version of JB on S3
2. Set animations scales to 0.5 in developer options.
3. Now compare =)
4. This thread is getting closed soon =\
dark_polok said:
1. Wait till final version of JB on S3
2. Set animations scales to 0.5 in developer options.
3. Now compare =)
4. This thread is getting closed soon =\
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Nice mate.Really nice.
Could you please explain why this adjustment helps??
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boulek said:
Nice mate.Really nice.
Could you please explain why this adjustment helps??
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Because the animation that you see when you launch an application is lasting 0.5 seconds instead if 1, so you get 0.5 seconds speedup if the application is loaded in that period.
cyprusx said:
Hey guys well it seem after watching all the speed tests on youtube, the iphone 5 is generally faster, but the catch is the S3 is running ICS with touch wiz. But i havent seen 1 video were they do a speed test with the S3 running stock jelly bean vs iphone 5! or maybe a touch wiz S3 vs a stock jelly S3, does someone know of one or can make one?
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Go try a nexus...
They support 100% jellybean and project butter..
the difference betwen the S3 and this in terms of smothness and ui responsivness are neglegible(when jellybean is 100% operational on the S3 of course,right now the nexus devices run smoother than the S3)...
These threads never end up well, that's why they get closed. Comparison threads in general get closed, much less an iPhone comparison thread.
---Jay--- Mobile Moderating from the Nexus™
What's your favorite feature on Kitkat 4.4 that was mentioned today? What features were you looking forward to that wasn't mentioned?
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I think it's a step forward.
Better memory management is a huge deal for Android, one that it's been needing for some long time.
Since it is gor 512mb ram devices also it will work just fi9 n smooth on note 2
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It's got some pretty cool new features, from the automatic caller id lookup to built-in screen-recording. I'm also interested in the performance and memory enhancements, since our Note 2 will feel old and sluggish by the time Sammy gives us Kitkat
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What's your favorite feature on Kitkat 4.4 that was mentioned today? What features were you looking forward to that wasn't mentioned?
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My thoughts on Android Kitkat 4.4 is it is gonna be smoother than previous versions since beside it is a small upgrade, lower end devices will be supported by it too so it means faster on high end devices..
BUT!
My only thought on SAMSUNG Android Kitkat 4.4, it'll gonna be very long, I MEAN VERY LOOOOOONG time 'til we get this.. Or probably won't since maybe when Samsung releases 4.4 it will be old news and 5.0 will be around.. Hahaha!
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since our Note 2 will feel old and sluggish by the time Sammy gives us Kitkat
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huh?? and u think Samsung will update N2 to 4.4 , i don't think so
or maybe they will update N2 to 4.4 when Android 4.5 or 5.0 is here :silly::silly:
I think it's a lovely update. Here are the list of changes: http://developer.android.com/about/versions/kitkat.html
I'm very excited for the performance and memory management enhancements as well as improved battery life.
Samsung ETA: 6+ months.
If only samsung would completely redesign touchwiz to somewhat resemble holo UI (like HTC did with sense 5)
I'll be enjoying kitkat on my 2012 N7 with its ****ty slow Tegra 3 processor.
First 4.3 than 4.4. Before we get 4.4 we have past one year. But I think 4.4 will be much smoother with better performance.
Does no one in this thread use AOSP ROMs lol?
I can't wait to test out the NFC card emulation.
thanks:good:
As someone has said, is a lovely update. Better performance, better graphics, more Google Experience and more. Sure, The Verge said that Nexus 5 is not the "perfect smooth Android", but i think that an Android without a single little lag is a chimera.
I'll try 4.4, maybe, with some custom roms, but i will definitely stick with the note instead of switching to n5. It's beautiful, but i'm sure that has not the battery life and speaker quality of the Note II. We will see.
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Sure, The Verge said that Nexus 5 is not the "perfect smooth Android"
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That hands on video was done by a biased apple fanboy. I mean really.... if you listen to what he says
He's getting hate all over the net.
The irony when Google say 4.4 designed to run on 512mb devices or more with better performance and better mem management....etc but the verge reported some lag here and there on Nexus 5 and peeps who flashed aosp 4.4 on N4 reported worse performance than 4.3
DAFUQ GOOGLE
Seems like Android + Dalvik will never ever be smooth and resource efficient as WP or IOS
darkchazz said:
That hands on video was done by a biased apple fanboy. I mean really.... if you listen to what he says
He's getting hate all over the net.
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I don't believe that's fanboyism. I owned an iPhone 4 and it was more smooth than any Android. Period. The only thing that i want to say is: seems that Android 4.4 isn't the "performance revolution" that we was expecting.
Anyway, it's still very enjoyable.
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I don't believe that's fanboyism. I owned an iPhone 4 and it was more smooth than any Android. Period. The only thing that i want to say is: seems that Android 4.4 isn't the "performance revolution" that we was expecting.
Anyway, it's still very enjoyable.
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I believe it is fanboyism because he was bashing many aspects of the device and android in general, not only the performance. Although I'm not saying it should exceed iOS performance. But notice he was demonstrating lag using chrome. And we all know chrome has been laggy and unoptimized since the beginning. One shouldn't bash an entire OS's performance based on an unoptimized app. The stock samsung browser on my Note 2 runs as smooth as Safari on iOS.
Saying nonsense like "...Usually Android cameras aren't that impressive." There's no way I'm trusting a guy like that.
in addition to:
"...ceramic buttons, for whatever that's worth."
"Google calls it 'silky,' I call it 'pretty good."
I think it is this Google Taking Aim at Device Modders in Android 4.4 KitKat – xda-developers
[email protected] said:
I think it is this Google Taking Aim at Device Modders in Android 4.4 KitKat – xda-developers
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thats good so we dont have to rely on stupid manufacturer who doesnt update their phones
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I think it is this Google Taking Aim at Device Modders in Android 4.4 KitKat – xda-developers
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this nothing new for us cuz Sammy already sat SELinux to enforcing with 4.3
It is soon august in just 2 todays, I wonder will Lollipop ever se the light of day ? Lollipop have been delayed for soon 6 months or so,
Huawei get a big "fail" in this regard..
Just to make sure, I am not a beta tester I am a customer, which means it is not my job to be a beta tester and provide feedback to Huawei, it is their job to employ a team of "beta testers" not use "free working ants" who do there job for free.
Unfortunately it has taken so long that I will for sure think twice of ever buying a Huawei device again.
They are a good hardware company but their software lacks both updates and functions
Just compare with most Lollipop devices out there right now, even the latest MEIZU have a more fun looking look.
All the animations are boring as **** and non inspiring on Mate 7. On default settings the animations are very slow which make me frustrated, I have set the animation on faster speed but that on the other hand makes them less smooth.
It is sad, I really liked Huwei they showed so much promise for the future and did do so many things right, but it really feels they have forgotten all the million people who have bought this device it is not acceptable. By the time Lollipop is available for Mate 7 that Android M is already rolled out so no people will be happy when lollipop is finally available... cause then we are already 1 year behind again.
I`ll take a rock stable KK rom over a buggy L rom anytime There`s nothing i misss from Lollipop tbh and i ran it on the Nexus 6.
Perfect solution?
Nexus from Huawei
Actually I second gee. I have broken my LG G3, and bought a Mate. There is NOTHING at all I miss from the (battery draining) lollipop on this great phone.
Only thing I miss a bit is lockscreen notification - but NiLS does a great job here.
IF (when) lollipop arrives I shall update it - but I don't miss it at all
It will you just have to wait. The Kirin chipset is kinda different. See how it's so fluid for KK compared to other chips which caused some lags? Lollipop must have changed it 180 degrees hence it will need more time for optimization
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It will you just have to wait. The Kirin chipset is kinda different. See how it's so fluid for KK compared to other chips which caused some lags? Lollipop must have changed it 180 degrees hence it will need more time for optimization
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I tried the KK lollipop launcher it was really really laggy on my Mate 7..
Have yo tried Nova launcher? I have huawei y635 emui 3.0 kk, Nova works absolutely lag free on this low end hardware
Should be breezing on Ham7
phrozenflame said:
Have yo tried Nova launcher? I have huawei y635 emui 3.0 kk, Nova works absolutely lag free on this low end hardware
Should be breezing on Ham7
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I have been trying a few launchers this week because I am so dead tired of the apperance on the M7.
However I have not fallen in love with any of the launchers yet...this include nova..
I wish there was more multi tasking functions..
There is a app that is called heads-up which brings lollipop style notifcation.. I place these in the middle of screen cause this is very my thumb is normally.. I also use C notice in combination with it..this is perfect.. combo.. must have..
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=codes.simen.l50notifications&hl=en
blackinfinity said:
It is soon august in just 2 todays, I wonder will Lollipop ever se the light of day ? Lollipop have been delayed for soon 6 months or so,
Huawei get a big "fail" in this regard..
Just to make sure, I am not a beta tester I am a customer, which means it is not my job to be a beta tester and provide feedback to Huawei, it is their job to employ a team of "beta testers" not use "free working ants" who do there job for free.
Unfortunately it has taken so long that I will for sure think twice of ever buying a Huawei device again.
They are a good hardware company but their software lacks both updates and functions
Just compare with most Lollipop devices out there right now, even the latest MEIZU have a more fun looking look.
All the animations are boring as **** and non inspiring on Mate 7. On default settings the animations are very slow which make me frustrated, I have set the animation on faster speed but that on the other hand makes them less smooth.
It is sad, I really liked Huwei they showed so much promise for the future and did do so many things right, but it really feels they have forgotten all the million people who have bought this device it is not acceptable. By the time Lollipop is available for Mate 7 that Android M is already rolled out so no people will be happy when lollipop is finally available... cause then we are already 1 year behind again.
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jeez man i hope u can sleep bcos you such inpatient..
You just need to remember that only 18% of Android devices has lollipop 5.0 not to mention 5.1.1.
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You just need to remember that only 18% of Android devices has lollipop 5.0 not to mention 5.1.1.
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But most of 2014 devices have lollipop yes ?
5 year old android devices are included in your statistics, and these devices do not even support lollipop..
Wow it is 5th August today and still no official lollipop release I guess people are just happy with a beta version.
blackinfinity said:
Wow it is 5th August today and still no official lollipop release I guess people are just happy with a beta version.
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Speaking for me personally, I am simply happy to wait for a stable release.
I just switched to HAM7 from a Samsung Galaxy S4 on 5.0.1. I would choose HAM7 on Kitkat over the S4 with Lollipop any time. This is in terms of stability, battery life and performance.
Not to mention that the upgrade to Lollipop on the S4 reduced the battery life drastically and only a custom kernel can make the phone usable for a day. And these issues were not only on the outdated S4 but also in the S5.
All I'm saying is that I'd love to have Lollipop on the HAM but I would rather wait for a stable version than frustrate myself with a new update that makes my experience worse than it was before the upgrade.
Just look at the Samsung forums to see people asking how to downgrade to Kitkat soon after the Lollipop update was out.
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kta said:
Speaking for me personally, I am simply happy to wait for a stable release.
I just switched to HAM7 from a Samsung Galaxy S4 on 5.0.1. I would choose HAM7 on Kitkat over the S4 with Lollipop any time. This is in terms of stability, battery life and performance.
Not to mention that the upgrade to Lollipop on the S4 reduced the battery life drastically and only a custom kernel can make the phone usable for a day. And these issues were not only on the outdated S4 but also in the S5.
All I'm saying is that I'd love to have Lollipop on the HAM but I would rather wait for a stable version than frustrate myself with a new update that makes my experience worse than it was before the upgrade.
Just look at the Samsung forums to see people asking how to downgrade to Kitkat soon after the Lollipop update was out.
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You're right,
I had S4, Galaxy s4 battery life after the lollipop update VERY bad
It drops so fast, it was big mistake from samsung
Because the processor begin very hot after normal use!
That's why I would stay on KitKat it works perfect and the battery life is amazing
But that doesn't mean I don't want lollipop -,-
I have installed Nova Laucnher using Lollipop animations and also
Heads up notifcation (with c notice)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=codes.simen.l50notifications&hl=en
I must say with these two apps my desire for Lollipop is not as big I must say I have noticed a big performance improvement using Nova Launcher...
I recommend it to everyone.
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I have installed Nova Laucnher using Lollipop animations and also
Heads up notifcation (with c notice)
I must say with these two apps my desire for Lollipop is not as big I must say I have noticed a big performance improvement using Nova Launcher...
I recommend it to everyone.
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I confirm ,nova is simply the best launcher and i have it on my all android phones
Here's my question. Galaxy A7 to comparison with Galaxy Alpha are quite identical when it comes to Chipset/Cpu and Gpu etc. They are very similar so I was wondering if any porting of custom ROMs from Galaxy Alpha could be made. I have no knowledge when it comes to porting so I'm asking here so there could be a discussion. Generally I like A7 it's a well rounded phone, great specs and camera but the touchwiz oh man the touchwiz i hate it so much...
I downloaded nova launcher so i can get close to stock android experience as a temporary fix but it's far from the usability of lets say CM 12.1 which in my opinion was/is the best OS for android machines. What do you think? Also do you see the A7 community growing to the extent of Galaxy S Series or Note series?
P.S Thanks to the developers who are working on ROMs for the A series <3 :laugh: