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Will ICS eliminate all the lag with android?

Will it be smooth like the ipad, when ics comes? Ive tried the overcome rom and there is still a bit a jerkiness/lagginess when using the screen capture function, exiting in and out, flipping through pages etc.

No. Get an ipad if smooth scrolling homescreens are the most important feature on a tablet for you.

3.2 will give you that smoothness. i use adw launcher ex and it pretty much fixed any lag. also recommend using spareparts+ to speed up opening window.
doesnt hurt to oc either
if you're not going to contribute then you can just keep ur post to yourself slack04

Everything you're asking can only be answered with speculation and dreams dude. I'm on 3.2 and don't see any of the lag you speak of.

Yes, ICS will bring hardware acceleration to the entire experience, should be a transformation.
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Answering the op question what lag? Sure if you have a slow device running top of the range os you will get lag
But since 3.2 I haven't seen any lag
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I think lag can be caused by many issues. For one, widgets with heavy graphics and constant refreshes can use up a lot of resources. There are also poorly made apps running in the background that may slow things down. I would just keep the homescreen as simple as possible if performance is a concern.

If ICS runs as smooth as it does on the Galaxy Nexus, yes, it will.
We will see it as soon as the first "complete" ROMs pop up, everything else is complete speculation.
3.2 made the tab a lot better, but still not completely lagfree in my opionion. Its response time varies from perfect (browser) to mediocre (app switcher - at least until its open).

Are you running on stock rom? I am running Task650 & Phantoms "In Paris" V5 OC'd to 1.4Gz with ADW launcher and it is pretty darn smooth even on Honeycomb 3.1. It will only get better with the 3.2 update coming in the near future. Check it out if you haven't already done so!

hardware acceleration in ICS improve performence allot , see alpha builds on the single core original galaxy tab 7 and HTC hd2 on youtube and you will see the big improvement in speed even with live wallpapers

Though it is true that ICS will have hardware acceleration, android will always lag at some point, seeing as it is an OS capable of being installed on a wide range of devices, and it can not be fully optimized for 1 device to make it lag-free.

derwinaero said:
Though it is true that ICS will have hardware acceleration, android will always lag at some point, seeing as it is an OS capable of being installed on a wide range of devices, and it can not be fully optimized for 1 device to make it lag-free.
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this is not 100% true , the kernel function is to make the hardware make use of the options in the software ,so that is why each device has its own kernel , thus with good kernel each device can benifit from the hardware acceleration on its way , so existance of (hardware acceleration ) with supported kernel should eliminate lag

Im using the overcome rom, isnt that the best if i want the smoothest experience possible?

hoss_n2 said:
this is not 100% true , the kernel function is to make the hardware make use of the options in the software ,so that is why each device has its own kernel , thus with good kernel each device can benifit from the hardware acceleration on its way , so existance of (hardware acceleration ) with supported kernel should eliminate lag
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But many companies don't bother with a good kernel. They pretty much use "Does it boot? Get it out the door" as a mantra.
The reason iOS is so smooth is because Apple tests devices for months and months to make sure the user experience is great. They put user experience over anything else, even features. I still get terrible lag on 3.2 while using my GT8.9. But hopefully ICS will fix that. But I won't bet money that all the lag will be gone. There's just not much optimization there, and throwing more cores at the software isn't going to fix that.

task650 said:
Everything you're asking can only be answered with speculation and dreams dude. I'm on 3.2 and don't see any of the lag you speak of.
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Same here, because of your ROM! OP, get on Task's ROM. And have a funeral for your tablet lag.

task650 said:
Everything you're asking can only be answered with speculation and dreams dude. I'm on 3.2 and don't see any of the lag you speak of.
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^^What he said...
Running GalaxyTask6.3 rom oc'd to 1.4ghz using adw ex launcher with boosted ics theme and it is SMOOTH as any apple device on the planet!
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Fasty12 said:
Im using the overcome rom, isnt that the best if i want the smoothest experience possible?
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Nope task650 v6.3 is the way to go
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3.2 was a nice upgrade in speed but after using ICS on my galaxy nexus I really can't wait for it to come to the tab 10.1 in one form or another.

The Galaxy Nexus does feel much smoother. Not sure if it's the hardware acceleration or just tighter code, but I'm eager to get ICS on my tab.
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i'm getting lag when flipping page's & application's as well .

Jellybean, disappointed with project butter. anyone else?

I have been loading most of the patchwork JB Roms that have been popping up here. I like some things about it, like Google Now, but I cant seem to understand "project butter." I cannot tell any real difference in smooth-ness. It still seems pretty laggy on my NS4G. I am hoping this is because either I have been using a newer device as my daily driver, or just that these Roms are hacked from other releases.
Does anyone else feel this way? What are your experiences with devices like the nexus 7 that were designed with JellyBean? smoother? same?

Nope I can see the difference its faster & smoother than ICS open app draw opens fast in ICS it took a little longer jellybean is the best OS update from Google so far 2 big thumbs up & I'm getting the same or a little better battery life than I was on ICS
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I can definitely see a huge difference it terms of smoothness. You should probably delete some apps you don't need or do a factory wipe.
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I mirror your experience, however am still hopeful that when Sprint releases the actual files, things will be better. I haven't experienced JB on any of the newer devices, but the reports are good. Life is all about expectations ... guess we should be thankful that we're even receiving the updates.

Killasmoke said:
Nope I can see the difference its faster & smoother than ICS open app draw opens fast in ICS it took a little longer jellybean is the best OS update from Google so far 2 big thumbs up & I'm getting the same or a little better battery life than I was on ICS
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FYI---it is VERY hard to understand you without any punctuation.

You still should keep in mind that we're on a 2 year old device... yeah yeah the original Nexus S came out in Dec 2010... not quite 2 years, but it's based off of tech that debuted in the original Galaxy S in the summer of that year. It's great hardware, but it's expected that we'll have a tough time dealing with newer OS' ... quite frankly I've considered going back to a stripped down CM7 just because of the smoothness compared to ICS (and JB) ... we're just running into serious RAM limitations on this device.

Piaband said:
I have been loading most of the patchwork JB Roms that have been popping up here. I like some things about it, like Google Now, but I cant seem to understand "project butter." I cannot tell any real difference in smooth-ness. It still seems pretty laggy on my NS4G. I am hoping this is because either I have been using a newer device as my daily driver, or just that these Roms are hacked from other releases.
Does anyone else feel this way? What are your experiences with devices like the nexus 7 that were designed with JellyBean? smoother? same?
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Try different kernels as well with the rom.
I definitely see a difference,
I have no more lag at all with what i used to before.

I think, the UI can be a bit smoother, but multitasking and opening/closing apps works smoooooth!

Much faster and smoother than ICS.
Running Jelly Belly 1.5.1
Don't expect 2 much from old device like nexus s.

Google is getting sued for project butter being "too smooth" by apple because apple claimed smoothness was patented.
Kidding,
But, I could see it happening.
JB is 3 steps ahead of any other OS :x

I am on jelly bean. I want to ask too why browsing in chrome is laggy? Opening apps and switching between apps is smooth though, but I dont feel that only switching and opening apps constitute the project butter.

I just don't like the fact that it keeps the phone awake over night. You ask me jellybean trying to do too much in the background. Last night I turned off 3g. When I woke up someone sent me a mms at 12am. When I check the battery stats it kept my phone awake trying to download a mms without data on. Not to smart
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lekhwani said:
I am on jelly bean. I want to ask too why browsing in chrome is laggy? Opening apps and switching between apps is smooth though, but I dont feel that only switching and opening apps constitute the project butter.
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Dialer slow, opening Apps in Settings freaking slow, chrome slow...

JB gave new life to my NS, definitely the smoothest it has ever been, and I don't feel the need to OC. As I do with all phones/roms, all transitions and animations are turned off, including the third one added with JB. Also using Nova launcher, but am going to try Apex again now that they updated it with JB base.
And the biggest thing I noticed is how quickly the recents come up now, it's instant. I honestly didn't think that would be possible on the NS.

Piaband said:
I have been loading most of the patchwork JB Roms that have been popping up here. I like some things about it, like Google Now, but I cant seem to understand "project butter." I cannot tell any real difference in smooth-ness. It still seems pretty laggy on my NS4G. I am hoping this is because either I have been using a newer device as my daily driver, or just that these Roms are hacked from other releases.
Does anyone else feel this way? What are your experiences with devices like the nexus 7 that were designed with JellyBean? smoother? same?
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Pick up the Galaxy Nexus and you'll see the difference much clearer. NS is just plain old.

Why don't you try setting animations to 0.5?
Nexus S (GMS i9020a)
Paranoid (1.6 - 4.0.4)
Matrix Kernel (CFS - 20.0)
Ondemmand (800/100)
Deep Idle (On - Deadline)
Live OC - 100 (400/800)
BLX - 98 (Inverted Apps)

People don't like change, I remember seeing threads bashing ICS when it came out. Its new and the devs here have done made great progress in the short time since its release.
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smoka206 said:
People don't like change, I remember seeing threads bashing ICS when it came out. Its new and the devs here have done made great progress in the short time since its release.
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I'm not bashing at all, love jelly bean.
Just mentioned where is slow.

Piaband said:
FYI---it is VERY hard to understand you without any punctuation.
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I didn't know I was in school & you where an English teacher. I think you need an eye exam if you can't see or feel that jellybean is faster than ICS.
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lekhwani said:
I am on jelly bean. I want to ask too why browsing in chrome is laggy? Opening apps and switching between apps is smooth though, but I dont feel that only switching and opening apps constitute the project butter.
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Chrome is a ram hog. Add in all the other processes eating ram, and you'll see why it's laggy.
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JB AOKP vs JB Leak

Whats actually better for performance? battery? smoothness?
Thanks!

rommark said:
Whats actually better for performance? battery? smoothness?
Thanks!
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Battery is almost always better with stock, while AOKP seems a lot faster(no touchwiz to slow it down) and smoother. I for one have always been a fan of CM, but lately I have not really felt the urge to go over to CM, as the stock rom comes with a lot more features and is pretty smooth(enable GPU Rendering and HW Composer). The clock, camera, motion controls etc. makes it a lot more difficult to switch over these days, but one should always try it out for oneself before making up one's mind.

I agree, I wanted a phone I could put CM9 or CM10 on but all the Samsung goodies are compelling and I find myself waiting on the next stock leak and not interested in CMx at all.

i wish beats audio would work on JB

I agree with all of the above. I love CM and AOKP and their unique set of features and vanilla goodies, but Samsung have really done a number on the S3! I find myself flashing the latest leaks almost straight away. They've just included so many useful features into the OS that I've become reliant on that, while I certainly prefer the vanilla look and speed, I don't want to sacrifice such genuinely useful features for it.
Except S-Voice of course, Lloyd* only knows what convinced Samsung it was going to be of any use to anyone - didn't they try it for themselves first?
Mind boggling to say the least. I do have to say though, the latest AOKP build looks mighty interesting with its tablet UI feature - wonder if it's done in a similar way to ParanoidAndroid?
*Android Central reference :thumbup:
Sent from me, swiping my fingers across a piece of glass.

The jb leak dli8 is siper fast and smooth. no one aokp/aosp is better. 8/10 transitions are very smooth no crash or freeze at all. no tw redraw.
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CM/AOSP/AOKP roms are always very fast. I flash every kind of these Roms. It would be great port some apk files such as Music player, camera, clock, widgets to work on these roms.

Astore90 said:
The jb leak dli8 is siper fast and smooth. no one aokp/aosp is better. 8/10 transitions are very smooth no crash or freeze at all. no tw redraw.
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The latest experimental build from Codeworkx is definitely faster than stock dli8, and smoothness ia pretty much on par. Still a couple of bugs to iron out, but once it gets to a stable release I could see me switching over for good.

With SGS1 and 2 I used CM until ICS leaks come out, since then it is not worth the performance "difference", comparing with what we loose
First thing I do is install GO EX launcher and delete TW

Toss3 said:
The latest experimental build from Codeworkx is definitely faster than stock dli8, and smoothness ia pretty much on par. Still a couple of bugs to iron out, but once it gets to a stable release I could see me switching over for good.
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Where do I download Codeworkx ?
Can I upgrade Codeworkx over DLI8 without wipe?
Thanks!

TW launcher is and TW framework are different things. Deleting the seclauncher.apk and using go launcher does not make any difference over the whole rom.

rommark said:
Where do I download Codeworkx ?
Can I upgrade Codeworkx over DLI8 without wipe?
Thanks!
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It's available in the CM10 thread. I would advise you to read the instructions before flashing CM10, as it is not exactly like flashing a Samsung rom.

yken said:
TW launcher is and TW framework are different things. Deleting the seclauncher.apk and using go launcher does not make any difference over the whole rom.
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It does make all the difference, more costumizable, doesnt look like iPhone, etc :victory:

melorib said:
First thing I do is install GO EX launcher and delete TW
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I don't think you get how this works.

Toss3 said:
Battery is almost always better with stock, while AOKP seems a lot faster(no touchwiz to slow it down) and smoother. I for one have always been a fan of CM, but lately I have not really felt the urge to go over to CM, as the stock rom comes with a lot more features and is pretty smooth(enable GPU Rendering and HW Composer). The clock, camera, motion controls etc. makes it a lot more difficult to switch over these days, but one should always try it out for oneself before making up one's mind.
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Couldnt agree with you more. Every phone ive had has been flashed with CM... The gs2 benefits from it but i have to say it. Touchwizz and the features of the stock rom ie; pop out play, motion controls, smoothness etc.. There just isnt the need to switch for me.
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Im using Omega Rom which keeps all the touchwiz features i want but makes it better than stock. Best of Both!

irish-sid said:
I don't think you get how this works.
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TW only problem is the interface, before it might impair performanmce too, but now it is not relevant

Kangburra said:
I agree, I wanted a phone I could put CM9 or CM10 on but all the Samsung goodies are compelling and I find myself waiting on the next stock leak and not interested in CMx at all.
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That's why I love Vertimus and Domination Theme! Best of both worlds, for the most part. We just saw a post that said JB 1.3.1 will be showing up sometime this week.

If you want battery, I would recommand using the FoxHound Rom (0.5 now) with Siyah Kernel (included) plus the STweaks Hardcore3boost. That's what I did and my system is still very smooth.

hykhleif said:
i wish beats audio would work on JB
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Just turn the volume to Max,same with all EQ settings, fill your ears with ground glass and use the cheapest headphones you can find. Viola! The True Beats Experience.

Stock jelly bean vs iphone 5?

Hey guys well it seem after watching all the speed tests on youtube, the iphone 5 is generally faster, but the catch is the S3 is running ICS with touch wiz. But i havent seen 1 video were they do a speed test with the S3 running stock jelly bean vs iphone 5! or maybe a touch wiz S3 vs a stock jelly S3, does someone know of one or can make one?

cyprusx said:
Hey guys well it seem after watching all the speed tests on youtube, the iphone 5 is generally faster, but the catch is the S3 is running ICS with touch wiz. But i havent seen 1 video were they do a speed test with the S3 running stock jelly bean vs iphone 5! or maybe a touch wiz S3 vs a stock jelly S3, does someone know of one or can make one?
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How du you want to do this when there isn't a 100% working 4.1.1 JB for international I9300 S3 in the air?
I think the polish version is not what Samsung wanted, perhaps it was a mistake that it was officially released and and they realised it too late?
I dont know, but I will wait until the real JB is released, it can only be a week or two. (i hope)
THEN I am sure the S3 is as fast as the iPhone 5 and much better overall. The google speak assistant is way better than siri. :good:
lienot

Yes I know of the official Touchwiz jelly bean will be faster but I want to see a stock Jelly bean speed comparison without touchwiz, isn't there a stable rom now like resurrection rom?

These iPhone comparison threads are not getting us anywhere. It will surely get locked.
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iPhone5 might be faster even with official JB out but that doesn't mean that it can replace android customisation, great screen size and color, and many more great features of the s3

F|_|C|< iSUCK5
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1. Wait till final version of JB on S3
2. Set animations scales to 0.5 in developer options.
3. Now compare =)
4. This thread is getting closed soon =\

dark_polok said:
1. Wait till final version of JB on S3
2. Set animations scales to 0.5 in developer options.
3. Now compare =)
4. This thread is getting closed soon =\
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Nice mate.Really nice.
Could you please explain why this adjustment helps??
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boulek said:
Nice mate.Really nice.
Could you please explain why this adjustment helps??
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Because the animation that you see when you launch an application is lasting 0.5 seconds instead if 1, so you get 0.5 seconds speedup if the application is loaded in that period.

cyprusx said:
Hey guys well it seem after watching all the speed tests on youtube, the iphone 5 is generally faster, but the catch is the S3 is running ICS with touch wiz. But i havent seen 1 video were they do a speed test with the S3 running stock jelly bean vs iphone 5! or maybe a touch wiz S3 vs a stock jelly S3, does someone know of one or can make one?
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Go try a nexus...
They support 100% jellybean and project butter..
the difference betwen the S3 and this in terms of smothness and ui responsivness are neglegible(when jellybean is 100% operational on the S3 of course,right now the nexus devices run smoother than the S3)...

These threads never end up well, that's why they get closed. Comparison threads in general get closed, much less an iPhone comparison thread.
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SamMobile confirms S2 JB on 2013

Hi,
Sammobile confirms JB for S2 on Jan 2013
Ref : http://www.sammobile.com/2012/12/18/android-4-1-2-updates-galaxy-s-ii-delayed/#.UNBJZ810F8s.twitter

Lets hope it..

They should probably postpone it to Feb or March and give some kind of ultra stable god firmware of the latest android release. Seriously. And maybe a few more leaks for xda, so members can find loopholes and bugs.(like the exynos vulnerability)
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2014 it is
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4.1?
Meh. 10.1 is awesome.
I has a sig

Genial esperemos q llegue lo antes posible tan ansiada actualizacionnn
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Oh f it. Im going cm 10.1
I9100 @ CM 10

This... is not ideal.
Hopefully some xda guys can fix the current problems sooner, they're good at that.

Did you know that when it is raining the rain touches the ground?

Guys is CM10.1 really worth trying I'm asking because I use my phone to take a lot of photos nit videos but mainly photos . Also GPS and all . I'm asking all this because the last time I tried CM9 few days back it still had the slow USB speed problem but that bug was not listed in the CM9 WIKI which was weird . And CM10.1 is listing only few bugs on its known bug list . Thanks for replying
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CM 10.1 has very good battery life,still has slow usb transfer,no project butter,tv out,fm,problem with streaming,video rec effects broken..can be used as a daily drive ,the rom is so smooth its almost like the project butter works(thanks to vsync patch)

anto.danny said:
CM 10.1 has very good battery life,still has slow usb transfer,no project butter,tv out,fm,problem with streaming,video rec effects broken..can be used as a daily drive ,the rom is so smooth its almost like the project butter works(thanks to vsync patch)
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anto.danny said:
CM 10.1 has very good battery life,still has slow usb transfer,no project butter,tv out,fm,problem with streaming,video rec effects broken..can be used as a daily drive ,the rom is so smooth its almost like the project butter works(thanks to vsync patch)
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What i know is that.....cm10.1 have project butter working ( what we call triple buffering ) but it requires some improvement (devs say) ,fm not supported and will be never because cyanogen dont, tv out will also be never fixed ( proprietry undocumented ) and rest others are gonna to be fixed soon.
But the main **** is that samsung is delaying their release schedule,when nexuses are running on 4.2 we are still hoping for 4.1 ,yet we tasted pure aosp 4.1 but partially cooked ( blame to samsung coz no sources no work ). So i m really thankful teamhacksung who are miles ahead from crapsung.
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We already have JB since months now... What's the point it get Sammie crap? Touchwiz BS? It won't even help the devs to provide us more stable aosp...

Another tweet based on the rule of three

Considering making the jump to CM too.
How is picture quality? As good as stock? Gaming performance? Any glitches?
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olyloh6696 said:
Considering making the jump to CM too.
How is picture quality? As good as stock? Gaming performance? Any glitches?
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IMHO picture quality is OK comparing to samsung rom. If it's as good as stock, you have to try and check yourself, many things depends on your personal taste. Can't tell you anything about games 'cos I'm not a player. Glitches occurs here and there, but only if you are doing something in background. Overall performance is better with CM, and it is more responsive, but as I said you have to see yourself.

anshmiester78900 said:
Guys is CM10.1 really worth trying ....
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I looked up the known problems for it, and decided that I still wanted to try CM10.1 but not lose stock.
I installed Syiah Kernel, which let's you do dual-boot. So now I have both CM10.1 and my stock ICS on my phone. You can switch between them at boot and choose which you you'd like to you're primary ROM. So you could try that and play with CM to see if you'd like to keep it around
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Here's the link to Dual Booting on the Galaxy SII using the Syiah Kernel!

January is only weeks away.
i quite like the stock JB rom, if the leak is anything to go by, i've been on custom rom's since i got my S2 so this is my first experience with touch-wiz and in JB its actually nice. i used CM10 for a long time but not got any real interest in changing my rom to try out CM10.1

Morbidx13 said:
January is only weeks away.
i quite like the stock JB rom, if the leak is anything to go by, i've been on custom rom's since i got my S2 so this is my first experience with touch-wiz and in JB its actually nice. i used CM10 for a long time but not got any real interest in changing my rom to try out CM10.1
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I'll believe to have official JB only when I read on sammobile that I can download it.