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Hello all
I value the opinion of the members here so I wanted to ask an updated battery question for my FUZE. There are many threads here about different batteries, but most are old. I am looking for current info if any.
Background:
1) I do not like the way the extended batteries look and how huge they make the phone.
2) So I am looking for a second backup battery (regular size) that I can have charged and with me on business trips to use when first battery runs out of juice.
THE QUESTION -
Can anyone post current links to backup batteries they have purchased that either have cradles with them, or some other external way to charge them outside of the phone. I need to be able to use my phone while the back up battery is charging.
Thank you everyone for the links and feedback.
Also - is there something like this - http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=27821&cat=3792 that comes with the cradle AND the second battery THAT PEOPLE RECOMMEND. Thanks
I am in the same boat. I am reluctant to purchase batteries off ebay for fear they are fakes. There are way too many "too good to be true" deals. I made that mistake with my Tilt and I am reluctant to go down the same path.
Daydeal.com looks like they might be legit.
That site looks ok, and the cradle looks good including the dock for a second battery. Has anyone on the forums picked one of these up?
dwight.
I picked up a extra Seido battery, but am also hoping for some type of 2nd charger or dock. This one looks rather nice, but I wonder if there are any other alternatives (such as an official HTC dock)?
If anyone does pick this up, i'd love to hear an opinion on it.
pick up the seidio 1500mah extended battery. it is really your only option. it easily adds 2-3 more hours of usability.
Pulled this off another thread. Looks better than the one on daydeal.
http://mobile.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=03819&dept_id=039&cat_id=1149
I purchased this one - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350158863101
I received it in a little under a week. It is black, very slick looking and the replacement battery says htc innovation on it so it looks legit. it came with both a usb connection to the computer and a power cord adapter to plug into the wall. Is pretty small and compact. I will report back after using the replacement battery once it has charged for a while.
TVDinner,
Hows that battery doing for? I'm thinking of buying same deal today.
see this for emergency charge I buy them and never has a problem with runing down power finaly I can use my GPS with offroad map on mountain
1. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320341010834
2.http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=260358387404
or there is cheaper Solar Charger like this
http://cgi.ebay.com/SOLAR-BATTERY-P...5|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:0|293:1|294:50
I got this one off of eBay and it' great Clicky
The base is nice and sturdy, not like the cheap crap the one for my N95 was. And the spare batter lasts for along time as well, so it's all good
I picked up this dock (w/spare battery charger) for $16.83:
http://www.amazon.com/Premium-Multi-Function-Cradle-Touch/dp/B001I1LJ8M
along with this spare battery for $8.59:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.16225
From my visual comparison, the battery looks almost identical to my original as far as the printing goes except the new one is white where the old one is more of a really light gray. The meter on the battery from dealextreme doesn't seem as accurate as the OEM battery but it seems to hold a charge well. I guess that's the trade off for not buying an OEM battery.
The cradle itself is really sturdy but I've noticed that if I leave my Fuze in it for too long, Activesync loses the connection and I have to unplug everything and reconnect to get it to recognize (this doesn't happen with direct USB connection). However, it will continue to charge even if Activesync loses the connection. The cradle comes with a miniUSB cable and an AC adapter (barrel plug) that can be plugged into the rear. The spare battery charger will only work when the AC adapter is plugged in but either connection allows the phone to charge (both connections at the same time is not recommended).
My battery and doc
Had the same problem, and found (with my previous Hermes) that having two regular batteries and a doc that could charge the phone and extra battery at the same time was the best solution. I went to the AT&T store and bought the extra battery for $35 or so. At mobileplanet.com (eXpansys) I bought the extra battery charger/dock http://www.expansys-usa.com/p.aspx?i=172873 that has been great since. One word of caution (if you care)- the dock/charger comes with a wall charger cord that DOES NOT end in a mini USB. Therefore the dock uses the standard round 5V connection instead. Since mine stays stationary next to the bed (i grab the batt and phone each day when I leave, and put them back at night) this was a non issue. However, unlike the HTC branded one for the Hermes, the battery is flush in the charger, rather than standing up at an angle behind the phone, so this dock is a bit larger 2.5" by 4" then previous versions, but does all you are asking for.
USB Charger w/Backup Battery Support
I found the same charger on Amazon.com for a few dollars less if some of you are worried about DayDeal. Here's the link:
http://www.amazon.com/Hotsync-Deskt...GGPS/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1241719899&sr=8-3
I bought this today and am heading across the country on a trip. I'll report back on how well it works.
Has anyone tried this spare battery charger?
http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/bd3-bcsi3htchx1-bk.htm
I don't really need a cradle. If I needed to, I could connect a USB cable to this and charge me phone as well as the spare battery.
Not really sure if its worth the price or not.
Charging Station/Dock and Spare Battery
So I received the spare battery and charging station that I ordered from Amazon. It isn't anything spectacular, but feels solid and works like a champ. It came with a 120v A/C Wall adapter and an extra USB cable so I could either use it to connect my Fuze directly to the computer by USB, or just plug it in to an outlet for charging. Works great. I would recommend it, but I haven't had much experience yet, just charged the spare and swapped the batteries out of the device.
Whos got Extended battery on there Att Fuze ?
Is it worth the bulk
& which one to get ?
1,500 / 1,800 / 2,000 diff kinds i see
with diff company
I ordered the official Samsung wireless cover from Amazon, slapped it on, and then put my Otterbox Commuter series over it - so far so good, everything fits reasonably well.
I go to put my S5 on a wireless charger and it charges. Then stops charging. Then starts charging again. Then stops again. Over and over it repeats this.
I get to thinking the phone is just too far away, so I take off the hardshell of the Otterbox Commuter. Same thing happens again. So I take off the soft shell - now I'm down to just the naked phone, and it's still charging on and off.
I'm using the blackberry folding blade wires, and the chargers found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...udget-wireless-charger-showdown-5-qi-t2676249
Specifically, the tilted charger and rectangle with LED lights. Both are giving me the exact same on & off problem.
So does anyone know how to fix this? Is it the chargers or something I'm doing? Are the chargers just not generating a strong enough field (if so, which charger can I get that will generate a better field?)
Thanks for any help
EDIT: Clarified that wireless cover is official Samsung
xmacro said:
I ordered the wireless cover from Amazon, slapped it on, and then put my Otterbox Commuter series over it - so far so good, everything fits reasonably well.
I go to put my S5 on a wireless charger and it charges. Then stops charging. Then starts charging again. Then stops again. Over and over it repeats this.
I get to thinking the phone is just too far away, so I take off the hardshell of the Otterbox Commuter. Same thing happens again. So I take off the soft shell - now I'm down to just the naked phone, and it's still charging on and off.
I'm using the blackberry folding blade wires, and the chargers found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...udget-wireless-charger-showdown-5-qi-t2676249
Specifically, the tilted charger and rectangle with LED lights. Both are giving me the exact same on & off problem.
So does anyone know how to fix this? Is it the chargers or something I'm doing? Are the chargers just not generating a strong enough field (if so, which charger can I get that will generate a better field?)
Thanks for any help
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I had the same issue with a cheap receiver I bought off ebay. The receiver was junk. I took it out of the phone and dropped it on the mat and used a multimeter to check my voltages and never got consistent readings. Tried again with the same chinese mat and the official back and no issues at all.
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I had the same issue with a cheap receiver I bought off ebay. The receiver was junk. I took it out of the phone and dropped it on the mat and used a multimeter to check my voltages and never got consistent readings. Tried again with the same chinese mat and the official back and no issues at all.
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Ah, sorry, should have clarified - I'm using the (allegedly) official Samsung wireless cover, the part that replaces the entire back
xmacro said:
Ah, sorry, should have clarified - I'm using the (allegedly) official Samsung wireless cover, the part that replaces the entire back
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I am having similar issues using a Palm wireless charger I custom made. I believe the issue is the connection from the cover to the pins on the device next to the battery. I am going to try adjusting it. Also, putting the phone in power saving mode before wireless charging seems to help. Think it may have to do with the wireless charging coil not providing enough amps for the phone to keep up. Trying a different cable/wall charger may help.
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Ah, sorry, should have clarified - I'm using the (allegedly) official Samsung wireless cover, the part that replaces the entire back
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It could be the output isn't high enough. For the official mat you need to have a 3 amp charger for it to work. And if the output is too low, the phone may be getting confused because it is detecting a current, but not enough of one for it to be registering that it is charging. I have a car charger that has a 1 amp and a 2 amp setting, and when I try it on the 1 amp setting I get the same issue where it connects and disconnects. 2 amp and I get 0 issues.
I have a similar issue. I'm using the official Samsung S-View Wireless Charging Cover with the Nexus 5 wireless Charger. I get nothing when I put them together. I believe the output from the charger is around 2 amps and it works perfectly with my Nexus 5 (surprise, surprise...) Not sure why I don't get any response whatsoever...
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It could be the output isn't high enough. For the official mat you need to have a 3 amp charger for it to work. And if the output is too low, the phone may be getting confused because it is detecting a current, but not enough of one for it to be registering that it is charging. I have a car charger that has a 1 amp and a 2 amp setting, and when I try it on the 1 amp setting I get the same issue where it connects and disconnects. 2 amp and I get 0 issues.
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I'm using a blackberry folding blade charger, the stated output is 1.8 amps, and my Samsung charger that came with the phone is 2.0 amps; both give me the on/off problem. Is 3 amps really the key? Where do you find one?
xmacro said:
I'm using a blackberry folding blade charger, the stated output is 1.8 amps, and my Samsung charger that came with the phone is 2.0 amps; both give me the on/off problem. Is 3 amps really the key? Where do you find one?
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Sorry meant to say 2 amp. But you may want to test your mat and receiver and see if it really putting out the 1 amp the other thread said it was supposed to. If you are getting an output of less than 1 amp that the other thread says it should be then that is probably your issue. Unfortunately I'm not able to measure the outputs on either of my mats to give you an idea until later this evening when I get out of work.
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Sorry meant to say 2 amp. But you may want to test your mat and receiver and see if it really putting out the 1 amp the other thread said it was supposed to. If you are getting an output of less than 1 amp that the other thread says it should be then that is probably your issue. Unfortunately I'm not able to measure the outputs on either of my mats to give you an idea until later this evening when I get out of work.
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I think you may be right; it may well be the mats I have are just junk, both of them, unfortunately.
I opened up the back of the phone, and brushed off the wireless charging prongs, just to make sure they weren't dirty. Put cover back on, put otterbox commuter case back on.
Put it on the wireless charger, it cycles on/off again and again, about once per second. Take off the hard shell, leaving just the soft shell, and it cycles on/off about once every five seconds - that is, the interval actually got longer. Take off the soft shell, down to a naked phone, and works after cycling on/off about 5 times, then it settles down and stops cycling.
On another charger, the tilted qi charger, it'll charge if the phone is naked, but if I put even the soft shell of the Otterbox Commuter on it, it'll cycle a few times then just not charge at all.
I'm not sure this is a connection problem with the prongs, or a problem with the wire/charger. I think it has something to do with the field that the qi charger is generating. Since I don't know jack about the qi standard, can anyone tell me if all qi fields are equal? That is, do higher quality qi chargers produce a larger or strong field than cheap units?
Like I said in the OP, these are all very cheap chargers, $15 at most, and I'm wondering if that may be the cause.
xmacro said:
I'm using a blackberry folding blade charger, the stated output is 1.8 amps, and my Samsung charger that came with the phone is 2.0 amps; both give me the on/off problem. Is 3 amps really the key? Where do you find one?
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I use the 2A charger that came with the phone with the CHOETECH pads. The insert is the CHOETECH mat inside the cover. The pad is rated 2.1A input, 1A output. My phone cycles on-off occasionally when the phone hits 100%. I use the Otterbox Defender case.
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I use the 2A charger that came with the phone with the CHOETECH pads. The insert is the CHOETECH mat inside the cover. The pad is rated 2.1A input, 1A output. My phone cycles on-off occasionally when the phone hits 100%. I use the Otterbox Defender case.
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Interesting, so could the problem be due to just using a cheap generic? Seems that the cheap ones may be generating a smaller or weaker field?
Just wanted to post an update - bought a more expensive charger, one with 3 coils instead of the 1 that was in my other two - and now it charges fine, right through my Otterbox Commuter case.
So to anyone else having this problem - the field generated doesn't seem to be big enough to penetrate the Otterbox Commuter with just one coil, you need 3 or so.
EDIT: Specifially, it was the Cheotech Qi wireless charger, rectangle with LED
xmacro said:
Just wanted to post an update - bought a more expensive charger, one with 3 coils instead of the 1 that was in my other two - and now it charges fine, right through my Otterbox Commuter case.
So to anyone else having this problem - the field generated doesn't seem to be big enough to penetrate the Otterbox Commuter with just one coil, you need 3 or so.
EDIT: Specifially, it was the Cheotech Qi wireless charger, rectangle with LED
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it's not the problem with the coil, they give out the same current, it's because the angled charger is a cheap and nasty one, and the flat one is just a fake one, the official one cost alot more.
3 coils only give you a wider surface detection, the current is just the same as a single coil or a 7 coils.
The 3 coils charger you have is a rebadge of powerqi T300 which is a highly recommended one.
kms108 said:
it's not the problem with the coil, they give out the same current, it's because the angled charger is a cheap and nasty one, and the flat one is just a fake one, the official one cost alot more.
3 coils only give you a wider surface detection, the current is just the same as a single coil or a 7 coils.
The 3 coils charger you have is a rebadge of powerqi T300 which is a highly recommended one.
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Ya learn something new everyday - thanks for the info
Has any one any experience with wireless charging on the Yotaphone 2? It supports the Qi standard but I've not ever had any device that can be charged wireless so I don't know what to expect.
There are some cheap chargers on ebay so I may get one to experiment with but wonder what others are using, how long a charge takes? is there a tiny sweet spot to get it to work? does it get hot? Any compatability issues?
Thanks
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manmikey said:
Has any one any experience with wireless charging on the Yotaphone 2? It supports the Qi standard but I've not ever had any device that can be charged wireless so I don't know what to expect.
There are some cheap chargers on ebay so I may get one to experiment with but wonder what others are using, how long a charge takes? is there a tiny sweet spot to get it to work? does it get hot? Any compatability issues?
Thanks
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Hi there,
Yeah actually I got one for my YotaPhone 2, it's ADATA Elite CE700.
First I have to say I was very disappointed because apparently you can only wireless charging the YotaPhone2 with the main screen facing up! Also you should know that the spot where Qi located is a bit small (3cm in height in the middle of the EPD Screen), but that also depends on the type of wireless charger you would use. Something like Tylt Vu would Support more area thus its more hassle free.
It's also good to know that with wireless charging you won't get Quick Charging anymore. Because In order to do that you must use the MicroUSB port. But again how long a single charge takes depends the type of the Wireless Charger and the amount of output current it has which most of them are 1~1.5A.
For your last concern, any Qi Wireless Charger will do but try to get one of the Tylt Vu. It has the best reviews. And the phone won't get hot during wireless charging if you must know.
And something which I'm not sure whether its my wireless charger or it's general, is when the battery is 100% the charging won't stop, unlike the normal charging with dedicated adapter which cut the current when the charging is complete.
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Hi, thanks for your detailed reply, I've now ordered two different generic chargers off amazon to experiment with, they are coming from China I think but were less than a tenner, I'll report back on these after ive used them for a bit.
It seems less than ideal for me to have to charge with the EPD facing down but I guess this is an engineering limitation. I'm sure there would be advantages and disadvantages of each side facing up during wireless charging.
I recently bought the Nokia DT903 wireless charging plate.
It works effortlessly with the Nexus 5. I can pick it up and place it back for charging with no connection worries.
With the Yotaphone 2 it does work, but it has to be in EXACTLY the right spot.... I'm talking millimetre precision here.... it becomes really frustrating to use and spoils one of the key benefits of wireless charging.
That's what is worrying me about Qi charging, I like the idea of wireless charging for the convenience, I work shifts and fiddling with the usb cable when I get in can disturb my partner, just being able to lay it on my night stand would be great, but sometimes I check the time on my phone in the middle of the night, or get up for the loo and nudge the charging cable and move the phone and if its really fussy about how it sits on the charger then I could end up with the phone not being charged overnight.
The ADATA Elite CE700 mentioned by Parisabs4 above looks like a good solution as it is adjustable and with the phone sitting on the cradle it is hopefully easier to hit the sweet spot.
QI charging experience
Okay so I've now tried 3 different Qi wireless charging plates and I have found that all of them exhibit the same problems whilst attempting to charge my Yotaphone 2
In the picture there are 2 single coil chargers and one triple coil charger (the one that is not flat) they are budget models, costing between £4 and £7 on Amazon.
I can get the Yotaphone to begin charging correctly on all three chargers, the phone says it is charging and the qi devices LED blinks to confirm charging. After 10 - 15 seconds the Yotaphone & chargers will stop charging, the indicators on the phone and charges indicate that charging has stopped. After a couple of seconds charging will recommence for about 15 seconds and the stop again, this cycle repeats for a few times then charging stops all together. Lifting the Yotaphone off and then returning to the charger will recommence charging.
My conclusions are that
My device has a faulty wireless charging receiver. (This is unlikely as im on my second device with the same symptoms after an RMA for a previous fault)
The charging software in the Yotaphone is buggy.
The Yotaphone is not fully compatible with the QI standard.
The Qi chargers I am using are not powerful enough for the Yotaphone. (Unlikely as I've now tried 3 different chargers but they were cheap!)
Has anyone else experienced this problem or is using a charger that is proving reliable?
I'm tempted to try the official wireless charging block as it ought to be compatible with the Yotaphone but its £40 wasted if not (although it can charge via a usb port too)
WHY IS NOTHONG EVER EASY IN THE TECH WORLD!!!!
The "old" Samsung S-Charger does not work either.
I got the following white list from the Yota support:
WCP-400 LG, Nexus5
WCP-300 LG, Nexus5
DT-601 Nokia
DT-900 Nokia
T-100 Speed
T-200 Fonesalesman
UNINC-585Q Uway
MP-01 Mpower
T-201 Speed
A010 Nexus(Google)
EP-PG900IBR Samsung S5
WCH-10 Sony
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The "old" Samsung S-Charger does not work either.
I got the following white list from the Yota support:
WCP-400 LG, Nexus5
WCP-300 LG, Nexus5
DT-601 Nokia
DT-900 Nokia
T-100 Speed
T-200 Fonesalesman
UNINC-585Q Uway
MP-01 Mpower
T-201 Speed
A010 Nexus(Google)
EP-PG900IBR Samsung S5
WCH-10 Sony
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Thanks for that info, I've ordered a Nokia DT-601 from the whitelist, fingers crossed!
As a footnote I have found my tablet charger (a 2.1amp samsung) works with one of my qi charging plates to charge the yotaphone but any other 2.1amp charger exhibits the same problems as the regular 1 amp chargers I've been trying to power the qi plates. Also I've discovered the Yotaphone will not charge from the usb socket in my car but any other device I connect to the socket charges fine, this is one flakey device!
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yota releasing their own brand wireless, qi charger (has its own 4000mah battery) fairly soon I think. will be priced about £32
matts2 said:
The "old" Samsung S-Charger does not work either.
I got the following white list from the Yota support:
WCP-400 LG, Nexus5
WCP-300 LG, Nexus5
DT-601 Nokia
DT-900 Nokia
T-100 Speed
T-200 Fonesalesman
UNINC-585Q Uway
MP-01 Mpower
T-201 Speed
A010 Nexus(Google)
EP-PG900IBR Samsung S5
WCH-10 Sony
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Thanks matts2 for sharing the list
I bought a Nokia-601 (£12.99 of Amazon) an it works perfectly, I've just charged from 35% to 100% with no issues. It even comes with its own 1.5amp mains usb charger
I'm happy happy happy now
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manmikey said:
Thanks matts2 for sharing the list
I bought a Nokia-601 (£12.99 of Amazon) an it works perfectly, I've just charged from 35% to 100% with no issues. It even comes with its own 1.5amp mains usb charger
I'm happy happy happy now
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I bought a cheap nameless one, have yet to receive it, I hope it will work in combination with a powerful adapter. Anyone got these cheap (5 USD) chargers working with their phone?
Another good QI charger for YP2 is/are the ones that IKEA sells. They have several models, but all seem based on the same platform powered by a 19V DC adapter.
I couldn't get any cheap QI chargers to work reliably with my YP2, but the IKEA chargers work great. They have some margin in positioning the phone on it, and prices start at around $30/EUR 25, so not to bad. I cannibalized the electronics from a JYSSEN to transplant them into a custom 3D printed charger case.
Does anyone have any experience using this Samsung 2A charger with the Yotaphone 2?
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-EP-PG920IBUGUS-Wireless-Charging-Charger/dp/B00UCZGS6S/
UPDATE: Never mind, I ended up buying the Nokia DT-900 since it's on the official list of supported chargers.
I bought my first wireless charger , a cheapo one from China just to see how they are. Cheap as in 4 USD. It does work but exhibits behaviour like described above. All night only charges it a little and the on light is not on much. I thought it was a problem with a cheap charger, but maybe not, it sounds like Yotaphone firmware. I don't have any problem finding the sweet spot.
I was reading about new LG fast charger that is coming out soon, first ever fast 15w wireless charger. But of course it will be expensive .
http://m.androidcentral.com/lg-announces-new-super-fast-wireless-charger-get-you-cables-good
I bought an 3-coil-qi-charger-stand from China (eBay article 381639407985) about 10€. It works perfekt.
Cheap Single coil charger work also, but only if you place the Yotaphone at the exactly right position ( only 2mm tolerance). As the coil inside the 2,80€ single-chip-computers charger from China is often not places correctly inside the housing, you first have to correct that.
So tripple-coil is to be prefered.
One nice thing: Charging via QI and USB-OTG works fine at the same time on Yotaphone. You can put the Yotaphone 90 degree rotated on the 3-coil-charger-stand and watching Videos from a USB-Stick.
I even think about building an own small OTG-Adapter, using a extreme small micro-usb-connector (like used in universal QI reciver-plates), a very small USB-Micro-SD-Reader, some wire and epoxy. The SD-Reader will be placed on the lower frame of the ePaper. I use a bumper and would cut the neccassary space out of it. So I could build an nearly invissible (with bumper) SD-Card-slot. 64GB extra space is nice...
I'm using a Nokia DT-910 that I originally bought for my Nexus 5 a few years back.. works just fine with the YotaPhone 2..
No need to be careful with positioning or anything like that.. just put the phone on it and that's it.
The benefit of a charger like this is that you can actually see the screen while charging instead of it being flat on the table like some other models.
Link with pictures: https://www.microsoft.com/en/mobile/accessory/dt-910/
Has anyone used a wireless power bank with the Yotaphone ? I was amazed that this technology existed really
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Has anyone used a wireless power bank with the Yotaphone ? I was amazed that this technology existed really
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Never thought about it but they do seem quite common https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=qi+wireless+powerbank
Or you can easily make one yourself by taping a wireless charger to a powerbank
In that case there is a wire, between PB and Wireless charger. �� so NOT wireLESS, lol
Can I use a QI Wireless power bank to charge the Yotaphone in my pocket?
Sometimes my phone runs out of juice. Is it possible to buy a power bank with wireless charging capabilities and use it to tirelessly charge my phone, by placing the power bank in my pocket next to my phone?
Just about to get my Priv (FINALLY!), buying stuffs to armor it up - quick chargers, cases etc..
So here is the question: as there is no official wireless charger for Priv, which 3rd-party wireless charger available is best for it?
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Just about to get my Priv (FINALLY!), buying stuffs to armor it up - quick chargers, cases etc..
So here is the question: as there is no official wireless charger for Priv, which 3rd-party wireless charger available is best for it?
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I don't have priv yet, but planning to buy one in a few days. These are the wireless chargers I was looking at:
1) Anker
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ue&ref_=ox_sc_sfl_title_5&smid=A294P4X9EWVXLJ
2) Spigen
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ue&ref_=ox_sc_sfl_title_6&smid=A2SFKRF5TPZMT5
3) MoKo
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ue&ref_=ox_sc_sfl_title_7&smid=A2VT4H683M5NNA
4) Choetech
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ue&ref_=ox_sc_sfl_title_8&smid=A1NCVKF8LXGAA9
#3 has AC adapter included, but that is about it. I want it to be like a stand, so it will be easier to see what if I get a text, call...
Not sure if you bought one yet, but I've had mine for a few days and I can tell you the wireless chargers that will work well with this will be a select few. It seems the coil in the PRIV is near the very bottom of the back, so chargers like the spigen listed above (Which I have and use with my Nexus 7 LTE) don't work well at all. It continuously connects and disconnects because the coil is so low on the PRIV that it doesn't line up well. I also have the most recent Samsung QI charger that I got for my Note 5, and that one actually works pretty well because you can set the PRIV on it towards the very bottom of the device. Another example is trying to us the Nexus QI charging orb, which the PRIV won't work well with because putting it on there so close to the bottom causes the device to fall over the top because it's top heavy. So long story short a pad or flat surface charger will most likely be best as it allows you to position the device properly. Hopefully this helps!
PS: This is the best device I've had in a long time, and I've owned most current and past flagships. Reminds me of my days on webOS with my Palm Pres...but a million times better!
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Not sure if you bought one yet, but I've had mine for a few days and I can tell you the wireless chargers that will work well with this will be a select few. It seems the coil in the PRIV is near the very bottom of the back, so chargers like the spigen listed above (Which I have and use with my Nexus 7 LTE) don't work well at all. It continuously connects and disconnects because the coil is so low on the PRIV that it doesn't line up well. I also have the most recent Samsung QI charger that I got for my Note 5, and that one actually works pretty well because you can set the PRIV on it towards the very bottom of the device. Another example is trying to us the Nexus QI charging orb, which the PRIV won't work well with because putting it on there so close to the bottom causes the device to fall over the top because it's top heavy. So long story short a pad or flat surface charger will most likely be best as it allows you to position the device properly. Hopefully this helps!
PS: This is the best device I've had in a long time, and I've owned most current and past flagships. Reminds me of my days on webOS with my Palm Pres...but a million times better!
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My Priv is arriving tomorrow I will use your recommendation when I will be buying wireless charger... It is just when using the pad, the device is laying down instead of being vertical so I could see and read messages...
By the way, have you tried to put your Priv in landscape on the wireless charger such as spigen?
Charkatak said:
My Priv is arriving tomorrow I will use your recommendation when I will be buying wireless charger... It is just when using the pad, the device is laying down instead of being vertical so I could see and read messages...
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Yeah I like the stand up chargers as well so I can view things while working. Let me know if you find a good one that works well.
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Yeah I like the stand up chargers as well so I can view things while working. Let me know if you find a good one that works well.
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I just asked users on amazon if some of the chargers do work well with Priv. Will reply here if I get any answer. Have you tried to put your Priv in landscape on the wireless charger such as spigen? The reason I asked is because I read that some user had issues with some phones which would disconnect/re-connect, but when placed horizontally on the charger, all was well.
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I just asked users on amazon if some of the chargers do work well with Priv. Will reply here if I get any answer. Have you tried to put your Priv in landscape on the wireless charger such as spigen? The reason I asked is because I read that some user had issues with some phones which would disconnect/re-connect, but when placed horizontally on the charger, all was well.
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Yes it does wort of work. The problem is that the coil is so low on the Priv that it falls of when trying to put it on there horizontal. Same with the Nexus orb. It's kind of annoying. One solution with the spigen is to put something under the priv when it's on there horizontal so it meets up with the higher coil as the spigen has three coils.
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Yes it does wort of work. The problem is that the coil is so low on the Priv that it falls of when trying to put it on there horizontal. Same with the Nexus orb. It's kind of annoying. One solution with the spigen is to put something under the priv when it's on there horizontal so it meets up with the higher coil as the spigen has three coils.
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I saw 2 different Samsung chargers on amazon... Do you know the samsung charger's model # that you have described in one of your replies?
This is the one I have...
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-EP-PG...1450725284&sr=8-3&keywords=samsung+qi+charger
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This is the one I have...
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-EP-PG...1450725284&sr=8-3&keywords=samsung+qi+charger
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Do you know if the main difference is the "fast charging" and if Priv might benefit from the below charger vs yours?
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Fast-...8755&sr=1-9&keywords=samsung+wireless+charger
As far as I know the PRIV is not compatible with Fast Wireless Charging, but I'm not sure. The issue is simply the placement of the PRIV's wireless coil in the back of the phone. It's nearly at the very bottom of the phone so it doesn't align well with some wireless chargers. Most phones have the coil in the middle of the back.
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As far as I know the PRIV is not compatible with Fast Wireless Charging, but I'm not sure. The issue is simply the placement of the PRIV's wireless coil in the back of the phone. It's nearly at the very bottom of the phone so it doesn't align well with some wireless chargers. Most phones have the coil in the middle of the back.
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Looks like Fast Charging is for samsung phones. I found couple of interesting chargers which are vertical:
1) http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Miko...636&sr=8-5&keywords=vertical+wireless+charger
2) http://www.amazon.com/Aukey-Wireles...636&sr=8-6&keywords=vertical+wireless+charger
I think I would get the first one....
Anyone tried the Samsung wireless charger? I was trying with the Samsung wireless charger for S6 but it doesn't work...
Just found out my device is STV100-3 which doesn't support wireless charging.... Darn darn darn..... Ahhhhhhhhh
It should work with any QI wireless charger, assuming you have a model with wireless charging built in.
UPDATE: Contrary to my previous posts...the spigen charger referenced in this thread DOES work with the PRIV. I tried it again last night with a different cable and charger and it does work perfectly. It must have been an issue with the cable and charger I was using with it previously not providing enough voltage or something. Sorry for the incorrect information.
Also, I can confirm it does work with the Samsung chargers, but the PRIV's coil is at the very bottom so you have to line up the very bottom of the phone onto the charger. Hope this helps.
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It should work with any QI wireless charger, assuming you have a model with wireless charging built in.
UPDATE: Contrary to my previous posts...the spigen charger referenced in this thread DOES work with the PRIV. I tried it again last night with a different cable and charger and it does work perfectly. It must have been an issue with the cable and charger I was using with it previously not providing enough voltage or something. Sorry for the incorrect information.
Also, I can confirm it does work with the Samsung chargers, but the PRIV's coil is at the very bottom so you have to line up the very bottom of the phone onto the charger. Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the update!
Moko Standup Charger
My priv has the official blackberry leather flip case, and I'm only interested in chargers that work with the phone in the case.
I just got the Moko stand up Qi charger a few days ago and it does NOT work reliably with the Priv in a case. It seems to work some of the time, but the night before last it charged to 60% and stopped. It's pretty easy to reproduce this behavior since it's never charged to 100%. One strange thing is that even when it only charged to 60%, it's pretty warm between the Priv and the stand. I know lipo lifetime is accelerated with heat, so I don't think using this, even if charges to 60% is a great idea..
I have a cheap square samsung charger that seems to work better, but you have to find the sweet spot.
I'm still looking for one that is 100%. Eventually, I want two, one for my desk and one for my car (air vent) but I'm definitely not going to try the Moko car version.
EDIT: I made shim (out of cardboard for now) to raise the phone up in the Moko dock by 1/2 inch. It charged to 100% for the first time! The phone is still pretty warm (about 94 degrees F) but that might be the way all of the Qi chargers work.
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My priv has the official blackberry leather flip case, and I'm only interested in chargers that work with the phone in the case.
I just got the Moko stand up Qi charger a few days ago and it does NOT work reliably with the Priv in a case. It seems to work some of the time, but the night before last it charged to 60% and stopped. It's pretty easy to reproduce this behavior since it's never charged to 100%. One strange thing is that even when it only charged to 60%, it's pretty warm between the Priv and the stand. I know lipo lifetime is accelerated with heat, so I don't think using this, even if charges to 60% is a great idea..
I have a cheap square samsung charger that seems to work better, but you have to find the sweet spot.
I'm still looking for one that is 100%. Eventually, I want two, one for my desk and one for my car (air vent) but I'm definitely not going to try the Moko car version.
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After I got my Priv, I am leaning towards this one, but have yet to decide:
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Miko...636&sr=8-5&keywords=vertical+wireless+charger
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Just about to get my Priv (FINALLY!), buying stuffs to armor it up - quick chargers, cases etc..
So here is the question: as there is no official wireless charger for Priv, which 3rd-party wireless charger available is best for it?
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This Meenova wireless charging dock is another choice -- adjustable, drop & charge.
http://www.amazon.com/Ultimus-Wireless-Charging-Samsung-Galaxy/dp/B014QZCFOS/ref=sr_1_8?m=A3UZZ0M53CX865&s=merchant-items&ie=UTF8&qid=1452182613&sr=1-8
Why BB want to have two versions? One with wireless and one w/o.........
US users are more privileged, while others over the other half of the world are not as privileged? :crying:
I was bummed when the G4 didn't come with Qi by default but the phone included the pins for it and a $10 easy to install sticker behind the rear plate brought it to life.
With this phone being a metal body and no word on any way to add it without some large bulky case, it's a no go for me.
Qi pad in my office, in bedroom, in my living room and even on my car dock mount. I can't remember the last time I physically plugged my phone in.
No thanks LG.
Why leave out such a basic feature?
Thats the sacrifice they have chosen since wireless charging does not work on phones made out of metal.
Yea thats a bummer, only hope is if theres a module built for it.
Qualcomm did show wireless charging working on metal phones. But with usb type C, it charges so much faster then micro usb. It sucks in a way, but I rather take faster charging then wireless
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So I guess the fragile glass backs on Samsung don't hamper wireless charging.
LG should have just made all their backs a premium leather (because a glass back is terrible, fingerprint magnet and shatter helpful.
It could have been a phone I wanted.
Now I'm stuck looking for an off-the-wall manufacturer who will make what I want... probably won't happen.
Wireless charging (or lack of) doesn't bother me. I never bothered to implement it on my G4. I have no need to keep at charging all day. I plug it in at my desk if it's running low and charge it overnight.
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So I guess the fragile glass backs on Samsung don't hamper wireless charging.
LG should have just made all their backs a premium leather (because a glass back is terrible, fingerprint magnet and shatter helpful.
It could have been a phone I wanted.
Now I'm stuck looking for an off-the-wall manufacturer who will make what I want... probably won't happen.
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The glass back on the S7 is Gorilla GLass 5, same as the screen.
Very disappointed with this. Been using Qi charging for ages
Currently have the Lumia 950XL which I am now bored with.
Was hoping to go to the LG but no Qi is a deal breaker.
Such a pity.
It may be the S7 after all then for me
There is no point to wireless charging when you have a removable battery. Buy an extra battery and a wall charger for it. When charging is required, just switch batteries. I never have to tether my phone to a charger because I always have a fully charged battery on stand by.
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There is no point to wireless charging when you have a removable battery. Buy an extra battery and a wall charger for it. When charging is required, just switch batteries. I never have to tether my phone to a charger because I always have a fully charged battery on stand by.
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This right here. +1
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Wireless charging (or lack of) doesn't bother me. I never bothered to implement it on my G4. I have no need to keep at charging all day. I plug it in at my desk if it's running low and charge it overnight.
The glass back on the S7 is Gorilla GLass 5, same as the screen.
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gorilla glas 5 does not exist yet 4 is the correct one zdnet made a mistake copying
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turbodroid said:
There is no point to wireless charging when you have a removable battery. Buy an extra battery and a wall charger for it. When charging is required, just switch batteries. I never have to tether my phone to a charger because I always have a fully charged battery on stand by.
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my setup is a bit more extrem when I have a day of heavy mobile usage 10+ h sot because navigation and stuff
I bring my external battery charger my external battery and my second battery I let my external battery charge my secondary battery in an contraption that looks like a lonney toons bomb, because the charging of a battery takes 2h and my phone avareges 3-5h sot I always have enough time and am never for more then 2 minutes unavalable untill I crash when I get home
I'm disappointed too. Love my Nexus 5 with wireless charging.
The Samsung S7 sounds kind of boring, and very expensive. The LG G5 sounds great, but why they left out wireless charging while including all the other features is beyond me.
I'm hoping for a good case that allows this, otherwise will be waiting for the next best thing.
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Wireless charging (or lack of) doesn't bother me. I never bothered to implement it on my G4. I have no need to keep at charging all day. I plug it in at my desk if it's running low and charge it overnight.
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There is no point to wireless charging when you have a removable battery. Buy an extra battery and a wall charger for it. When charging is required, just switch batteries. I never have to tether my phone to a charger because I always have a fully charged battery on stand by.
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Quick charge is good enough for me:good:
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gorilla glas 5 does not exist yet 4 is the correct one zdnet made a mistake copying
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True that Corning l Gorilla Glass
Personally i am careless about wireless charging even though i have two wireless charging pad at home with my note 5.
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Quick charge is good enough for me:good:
True that Corning l Gorilla Glass
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LG didn't mention what kind of quick charging in their announcement, quick charge 3.0 or quick charge 2.0 ?
On GSM Arena, it's written :
- Fast battery charging: 83% in 30 min (Quick Charge 3.0)
- Optional Wireless Charging (Qi-enabled)
what do you think?
I think it's definitely possible, really happy to see Type-C on this device.
Right now I'm taking a hard look at this and the Xperia X
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I'm disappointed too. Love my Nexus 5 with wireless charging.
The Samsung S7 sounds kind of boring, and very expensive. The LG G5 sounds great, but why they left out wireless charging while including all the other features is beyond me.
I'm hoping for a good case that allows this, otherwise will be waiting for the next best thing.
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Would be cool to have a case module with battery that allows wireless charging capabilities. Shouldn't be too hard to make and I'm sure the demand is there.
This is the least important feature...particularly, all the radiation, heat and wasted energy from wireless charging.
I imagine that with that swappable accessory bottom they could have one that include wireless charging, even if it creeps up the back of the phone a bit.
Charging ports wear out, that's why wireless charging is so great, so easy to place phone on wireless charging dock
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There is no point to wireless charging when you have a removable battery. Buy an extra battery and a wall charger for it. When charging is required, just switch batteries. I never have to tether my phone to a charger because I always have a fully charged battery on stand by.
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So you carry around a spare battery and charger, and don't mind swapping batteries and rebooting your phone when you want a fully charged phone? It's much easier to have a wireless charger at your desk at work, at home near the couch/bed, and anywhere else you are often, since instead of putting your phone down on the table or desk you just put it on the wireless charger, and when you pick it up it's always at 100%. It's a lot more convenient than having to plug and unplug all day long, or swap batteries.
There's no reason it needs to be wireless charging vs fast charging, all flagship phones have fast charging now, wireless charging is a nice addition.
You can also use wireless charging if your port goes bad, if your phone gets wet and you need to charge it, etc.