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charging a spare battery

Bit of a dilemma on this one.
With my previous XDA IIs i could use the cradle to charge up a spare battery as I often used it to watch films whilst travelling by train so a spare battery was a must for the return journey.
No that the xda EXEC doesnt' come with a cradle what would be the best soloution to charging a new battery , is there any other option rather than having to swap a fully charged battery already in the phone to a spare and then just do it that way or is there an external soloution i coould use?

Extend Battery life - possible solution?
I agree with you there - I had a M1000 before my Exec & it was real handy to get an instant full battery charge using the spare.
In response to your query:
Don't know if this would be any good to ya -
http://www.thepocketsolution.com/Me...ry_Code=spv_m5000_accessories&Product_Count=9
Extends the battery life using A4 batteries.
Personally - I have a spare mini USB cable I carry with me to hijack my work (and other people's) USB ports for a quick top up whenever I needed it. :lol:
(Some trains provide plug sockets to be used for laptops, etc - you could use this - but that would mean carrying about a big awkward plug!)

Yeah thats one soloution, I had already seen that and considered it, If anyone ever produced a spare battery charger for the EXEC would make a bomb, I bought the cradle type charger from expansys but if only that would make a combined charger and spare battery charger in one unit that would be perfect.

extra battery....
Check out this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=34638
8800MaH external battery for Universal. MAD JUICE. Movies music travel... whatever... nice.
Cyb

You can use 4x2500 Mah or better rechargables in the battery extender of Knight_Mayor so thats even more then 10.000 Mah.
Also you can carry 4 extra charged batteries with you to replace them.
So it's a much cheaper and better solution.

I think the only viable option at the moment for myself is to just buy a spare battery and stick in the exec and charge it up and then replace with the other and charge it and then just carry the spare battery around with me like I used to.
Any other soloution involves carrying around another piece of kit which kind of defeats the object
bit of a PITA but until someone releases/creates a cradle and spare battery charger seems the best way.

cotc2001 said:
I think the only viable option at the moment for myself is to just buy a spare battery and stick in the exec and charge it up and then replace with the other and charge it and then just carry the spare battery around with me like I used to.
Any other soloution involves carrying around another piece of kit which kind of defeats the object
bit of a PITA but until someone releases/creates a cradle and spare battery charger seems the best way.
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I used to do that with my MDA II.
But now I don't have a cradle which can recharge a second battery seperatedly, and I don't have a second battery.
The good part about this battery extender is that it's small, it recharges your universal and you don't have to take out your battery, no need to turn off your universal, and no need to reenter your pin code.
So in fact it's a mobile charger, when you are walking or have it in your briefcase keep it fully charged and when you want to use the universal just unplug it.
That Extender is great and cheap.
Shipping cost worldwide is only 4 dollar.
Total cost = 14,95 + 4 dollar worldwide by airmail letter post = 18,95.
The best deal you can get.
I'm gonna order one myself today .

Check This out !!!
Here is a Universal Owners Dream Come True.Havent bought from this person yet,but the offer sounds to good to be True:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Battery-Charger-for-O2-XDA-EXEC-I-mate-JASJAR-Qtek-9000_W0QQitemZ290136694073QQihZ019QQcategoryZ75446QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Kaiser Cradles

Here's the first shipping cradle, not for me yet as I'm looking for one that charges a 2nd battery. There is one here that has audio out however;
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=1211

Have you seen a stand alone charger that will charge just the battery?
I'm not one for leaving the phone in the cradle, but I do like to charge a spare battery and cycle the batteries.

I have my eye out for one as well, Last time I got a nice one from Sedio.
Although, I also got a Cradle/Spare Charger from Mobile Planet for my Hermes that was smaller than the single charger so that's what I ended up traveling with, so I could charge 2 when needed. The mobile planet one was from HTC and was the best quality, hopefully they'll make a TyTN version.

Kaiser Cradle with Extra Battery Charger
I ran across this one today...but it says it is not in stock yet.
http://www.talkietech.com/htckatiip4de.html
I emailed them, but have not heard back on an estimated date yet.

It looks good, but looking at the pictures, it has more that 4 contacts for the battery which looks more like TyTN's instead of TyTN II but that's probably a mock-up. I'm hoping still for a HTC version, their TyTN version had the 2nd battery set on edge behind the phone which made for a much more compact charger. Fingers crossed for a type II version..

tbfl said:
I ran across this one today...but it says it is not in stock yet.
http://www.talkietech.com/htckatiip4de.html
I emailed them, but have not heard back on an estimated date yet.
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Asa follow-up they did email me back this morning....
"It is scheduled for 23rd of October
Thank you!
Customer Service Representative
Talkietech.com
(866) 548-5881"

I'm afraid to use my 8925 as a daily phone without a spare battery. I can get through the day with my 750 with a spare battery in pocket (usually go from 7 a.m. until around 3 with the first battery).
But with only one battery and no stand alone charger, the 8925 is kind of a toy at this point.

Hey buddy, I have a "stand alone" charger to sell you for 1000 bucks. It's fully featured with a 2.8 inch touch screen, bluetooth, wifi, keyboard, GPS and phone. I'll even throw in a 2 gig microsd card and free shipping too.

I will take it!
But only if you will take Western Union and throw in the Brooklyn Bridge.

Gotta believe with AT&T releasing the Tilt we will have cradles and batteries available pretty fast.

here is the link and it is on sale http://www.talkietech.com/htckatiip4de.html

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the link says that its still not in stock and coming soon.

Is the Tilt able to use the 8525's desktop cradle?

In most cases it will fit, but the rear is thinner so there isn't good support. I'm using one carefully until I can get the real deal for Kaiser/Tilt. Any 2nd battery cradle will NOT fit/charge the Kaiser battery.

I have the following cradles available for the Kaiser:
- Vertical cradle (no 2nd battery charger)
- Horizontal cradle (no 2nd battery charger)
- Vertical cradle with 2nd battery charger
- Dome-style vertical cradle (no 2nd battery charger)
Pictures are below.
If you're interested ... PM me.

Interesting cradle, that horizontal one. But how does it load? The USB-Port is on the other side or is it just an "photo-fake"?
Bye, Peter

the horizontal one looks dope.

The hoizontal one is junk. I got one just like it for my XV6700. The mini USB never lined up quite right. Eventually, I slid the phone in and the mini USB connector broke off and went into the dock. It then became a worthless paperweight. The cutesy stylus is super cheap clear plastic.
Also, as someone else has already noted, the picture has the phone placement wrong.

Has anyone tried this from PDAir? Looks ok.

I just got a shipment confirmation for a cradle from Talkietech.com so it looks like they have it in stock.
http://www.talkietech.com/htckatiip4de.html

Looking for a spare battery charger

I have had 5 different "cradle" chargers that have failed.
I don't need one that charges the phone or uses as a sync charger.
I just want a standalone separate battery charger. I'd prefer if it plugged directly into the wall instead of via a cable but either works ok I guess

why not have a look on ebay?
J

Can those found on Ebay be considered reliable? I was hoping that maybe someone has already purchased something similar for the Kaiser and wouldn't mind sharing their thoughts and opinions. I would love to have a cradle for my Tilts so I can charge them and their extra battery. However, a simple battery charger would be nice as well.

I bought this cradle and I'm very happy. Working excellent.
HTC also has a cradle/charger, and though it looks much nicer and taking less space, the price is exaggerated.
There is a a battery charger as a stand alone. From the picture the battery is definitely not genuine, but the price worth it even if you'll throw the battery away. I don't know about the reliability of this seller/product though.

I bought this http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230228595112 did not receive it yet but looks like what I want. Even though it is only USB but I think I can hook it with a USB wall charger that will also charge it direct

Here's one from Sedio with flip-out AC prongs;
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=948

NetSkipper said:
There is a a battery charger as a stand alone. From the picture the battery is definitely not genuine, but the price worth it even if you'll throw the battery away. I don't know about the reliability of this seller/product though.
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I bought one from ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=250215286540&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=015
It was very inexpensive, has flip-out ac prongs, and works great. It arrived in about 10 days from HK.

NetSkipper said:
I bought this cradle and I'm very happy. Working excellent.
Do you know if this cradle can charge the extended battery (the one that is 3000mah)? I asked the ebay seller that you reference the same question and he said that he thinks it can, but he was not sure.
Thanks,
K Crumbley
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kcrumbley, sorry, I don't have the 3000mAh battery so I can't help you.

I bought a 2 pack of these chargers on Woot a while back. They have worked great for me charging spare batteries. Haven't seen them for sale anywhere else (not that I have looked too hard). Highly recommend them if you can find them.
http://www.woot.com/Blog/BlogEntry.aspx?BlogEntryId=2885

NetSkipper said:
I bought this cradle and I'm very happy. Working excellent.
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And then:
kcrumbley said:
Do you know if this cradle can charge the extended battery (the one that is 3000mah)? I asked the ebay seller that you reference the same question and he said that he thinks it can, but he was not sure.
Thanks,
K Crumbley
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I have one of those cradles as well and aside from having to do a little 'pin tweaking' with a pair of needle nose pliers (to get the cradle pins to line up with the battery contacts) it works fine. I bought it as a bundle with a spare 1350 mAh battery as well but since the larger capacity batteries still have the same contacts and basic sizes apart from thickness (after all they do fit in the same phone as a standard thickness battery) the higher capacity battery should fit fine. It'll just take longer to charge.

I purchased the Seido charger and it did not work, nor did the replacement they sent. The problem with the design is that it is a universal charger that has inserts for different batteries. Unfortunately the tolerances are not tight and the insert has trouble making contact with the main charger.
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=948

BARGAIN: DeskTop Charger & 2x 1340mAh Batteries

DeskTop Charger & 2x (Yes 2) 1340mAh Batteries for £15 (AU $ 31) including delivery to the UK - Gotta be a bargain?
Just ordered from Ebay (See Link) - will add comments on quality, build etc when they arrive.....
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290264206436
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That´s a REAL bargain, I am buying the "kit" right now. But warantee doesn´t cover exploding non-original batteris Hmmm.... Hope it´s good quality.

charge current ?
But since I do not see any wall mount adapter, max. charge current will be limited to 500mA.
When charging phone and battery together, time to charge would be around 7 hours. Only 3.5 ~ 4 hours for phone

dolezelk said:
But since I do not see any wall mount adapter, max. charge current will be limited to 500mA.
When charging phone and battery together, time to charge would be around 7 hours. Only 3.5 ~ 4 hours for phone
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???? You can plug your original "wall" mains charger into this one???
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Mr.Sir said:
.......warantee doesn´t cover exploding non-original batteris Hmmm.... Hope it´s good quality.
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I'm with you there - we have to be carefull when using non-oem spares and accessories - not just the batteries but also cradles and wall (mains) chargers too!
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has this arrived yet?
I've never had trouble with other batteries in my old xda exec

@Blob8me: Did you get the order? If so do you like it?

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@Blob8me: Did you get the order? If so do you like it?
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Guys - The order arrived on Tuesday - I've been away on business and just got back but got the package just before I left. It was sent recorded delivery and well packaged....
The desk-top charger and 2 x batteries (they look like OEM batteries but dont expect they are) I unwrapped one and took it and the charger with me.
Ive been using the replacement battery for the last 2 days and to be honest it seems to be better than my original?
The desktop charger is very good - good build quality and pretty light in terms of weight - the only slight drawback is that the charging status LED's are very bright but thats not a huge issue?
I will post some photo's when I get a chance....
Overall: VERY IMPRESSED & DEFINATELY A BARGAIN!!!!
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Thanks!
Just ordered one as well based on your feedback

Blob8me,
Thank you for your comments.
I ordered the discussed items today. £15 for x2 batteries and a charger is very good value.
As I see it these devices can be thirsty. For that reason I used x3 batteries and an extra charger for my Tytn ii and Tytn i. It is easy to carry an extra charged battery in a leather sleeve the size of a matchbox. A small inconvenience when one considers that often the alternative would be to carry a laptop around - bit of a nuisance when one cycles in London or flying somewhere and want to listen to music or watch media en route.
Rgs,
J

Ordered mine today - the exchange rate must have changed in my favour, cost me £12.62 for the 2 batteries and desktop charger.

Hello.
Hoes HTC Touch Pro support hot-swappable batteries?
(Battery change without soft reset)
Bye

Yes, during the battery switch it runs on either solar or nuclear power, you need to select which one you prefer in Settings/System/Power Options......
Seriously, no when you remove the battery the unit goes off completely. So no hot-swapping

Got mine a couple of days ago. Charger seems to be pretty well built. The usb cable that came with it was also of thicker quality, not those el-cheapo type. The LED sure are bright! A little too bright for me! hehe! The 2 batteries looked pretty good in built quality. I was kind of impressed at first glance.
Here comes my 'bad' news... after charging for 10 hours or so, the LED stayed constant..supposedly indicating that the battery is fully charged. But when i popped the battery into my Touch Pro, it just refused to turn on! Both batteries show the same problem. And I was extra careful to align the terminals to the charging point. What a let-down!
anyone else face this? I know Blob8me is satisfied with his...what abt others? care to comment?

Tried soft reset?
I mean:
Turn off.
Switch battery to a new one.
Press soft reset.

I also got them this week. Both batteries worked fine. The only thing I noticed is that they are a little thicker making it a little more difficult to put the back cover back on.

soundguy1202 said:
Got mine a couple of days ago. Charger seems to be pretty well built. The usb cable that came with it was also of thicker quality, not those el-cheapo type. The LED sure are bright! A little too bright for me! hehe! The 2 batteries looked pretty good in built quality. I was kind of impressed at first glance.
Here comes my 'bad' news... after charging for 10 hours or so, the LED stayed constant..supposedly indicating that the battery is fully charged. But when i popped the battery into my Touch Pro, it just refused to turn on! Both batteries show the same problem. And I was extra careful to align the terminals to the charging point. What a let-down!
anyone else face this? I know Blob8me is satisfied with his...what abt others? care to comment?
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Hi soundguy1202
Sorry to hear you've had a problem with the batteries - and with both of them which seems odd - if it was just one of the batteries then maybe I wouldnt have been suprised?
Did you try the soft reset as mentioned above (not that it should have needed that? Let us know how you get on......
I'm still using mine and still happy - I did notice, as peebee01 mentions that the replacement batteries we a micron or 2 thicker but actually seem to be getting better performance from them than the original OEM battery?
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well...i tried to soft reset... even to the extent of replacing the back cover first.. but to no avail...for both batteries. guess i got a bad charger? even when i put the battery in the phone and plug in the wall charger unit, it doesn't turn on. of course, this may be due to the battery no being charged in the first place! anyway, i will try get a meter and measure the battery output.
my batteries where also a tad thick, like u said...one was manageable but one needed a little pressure to put in place!

Also funny to see they print "HTC innovation" on them, but its horizontal vs. vertical on the orignal one. Plus on the back there is a serial number, but both batteries I have have the same serial..... That's real Chinese copying ;-)

Mine arrived today. Damn those led's are bright! I might be noobing it up, but am i the only one that's having trouble getting the batteries to stay in the dock?

Seidio 3500mah Battery

First off i'd like to say hello to everyone, this is my first post on the site.
I read the post about the 3600mah battery and it looks like the phone would sit on a slant. Looking at this 3500mah battery by seidio it looks like the phone may sit level. check it out and let me know what you guys think of this battery

I have the 3500 battery and it sits flat.

bluther said:
I have the 3500 battery and it sits flat.
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Awesome, thanks Bluther. How well does the black finish on the new back piece match the phone?

bluther said:
I have the 3500 battery and it sits flat.
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How many days does it work? Where did you bought it?

looks awesome. but its more than 90$ if i ask them to ship to China..pity

scottypimpin636 said:
First off i'd like to say hello to everyone, this is my first post on the site.
I read the post about the 3600mah battery and it looks like the phone would sit on a slant. Looking at this 3500mah battery by seidio it looks like the phone may sit level. check it out and let me know what you guys think of this battery
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The poster that commented on the slant must have seen the same pictures I posted about on another forum. Fortunately, I was corrected by someone who had bought the Mugen 3600.
Across the forums, those who've tried both pretty much all prefer the power & size of the Seidio & the look of the Seidio cover. Plus it's cheaper.
I got my Seidio 3500 Thursday night. The instructions say to do an 8 hour initial charge before putting the battery in the phone & that performance would increase after 5-6 full charges. I did the initial charge Thursday night, put the battery in the phone about 7:30 Friday morning, was down to 32% about 4pm Saturday. I put the battery on the charger Saturday night, put it back in the phone 6am Sunday morning, am at 38% as I write -- slight improvement. It looks like a fully conditioned Seidio 3500 ought to easily go two full days...maybe longer.

I'm using the unlocked UMTS version on AT&T.
I have this battery, bought it on day one because I use a lot of data with my phone and normally, even in Edge, a 8 hour battery is CRITICAL. I can't say what the original battery can do, but this battery is AWESOME!!!! I'm getting greater than 5 days of battery on this huge guy! Even when I'm in range of the 3G/HSDPA area, I'm getting at least 2 days.
I use GoodLink with my corporate email and it keeps the data connection HOT 24x7. Usually drains a battery VERY quickly.
Another pro is that the Seidio cover is non-skid black rubber coated plastic. While not matching the "pretty" glossy finish, I like it better because the phone doesn't slide around on surfaces.
I have one issue and I'm not sure if anyone else has this battery and have experienced this issue. But I can't charge this phone/battery with any USB cable I've tried through my USB ports. I've tried 3 different cables, including the included Palm cable, powered hubs and monitors with powered hubs.
I can't figure out what's going on here... Any help here???

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I have one issue and I'm not sure if anyone else has this battery and have experienced this issue. But I can't charge this phone/battery with any USB cable I've tried through my USB ports. I've tried 3 different cables, including the included Palm cable, powered hubs and monitors with powered hubs.
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I can leave mine in the phone & charge it using my Palm cable or the retractable Seidio cable. I also have a Mobi Products cradle -- phone with normal sized battery in the front slot, the Seidio 3500 in the spare battery slot, both fully charged when I get up in the morning. Sounds like you might have an issue either with the phone itself or your USB ports. Are the ports fully powered USB 2.0 compatible?

sn00per0 said:
I have one issue and I'm not sure if anyone else has this battery and have experienced this issue. But I can't charge this phone/battery with any USB cable I've tried through my USB ports. I've tried 3 different cables, including the included Palm cable, powered hubs and monitors with powered hubs.
I can't figure out what's going on here... Any help here???
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You must have the windows mobile device center/activesync installed on your pc in order for the device to receive power.

I found it for less $$$
sn00per0 said:
I'm using the unlocked UMTS version on AT&T.
I have this battery, bought it on day one because I use a lot of data with my phone and normally, even in Edge, a 8 hour battery is CRITICAL. I can't say what the original battery can do, but this battery is AWESOME!!!! I'm getting greater than 5 days of battery on this huge guy! Even when I'm in range of the 3G/HSDPA area, I'm getting at least 2 days.
I use GoodLink with my corporate email and it keeps the data connection HOT 24x7. Usually drains a battery VERY quickly.
Another pro is that the Seidio cover is non-skid black rubber coated plastic. While not matching the "pretty" glossy finish, I like it better because the phone doesn't slide around on surfaces.
I have one issue and I'm not sure if anyone else has this battery and have experienced this issue. But I can't charge this phone/battery with any USB cable I've tried through my USB ports. I've tried 3 different cables, including the included Palm cable, powered hubs and monitors with powered hubs.
I can't figure out what's going on here... Any help here???
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In the Treo Pro manual you will read that the phone takes much longer to charge on a USB connection. In other words it is suggested to use the AC adapter and the usb cable to get a powerful and fast charge. That being said maybe the battery needs and AC charge and USB wont suffice.
I have read so many reviews and your problem is a one of a kinder.
About getting this battery cheaper.
Go seidioonline.com and enter coupon code: ITB0630 for 10% off an order over $50.
They sell battery $65 ($5 cheaper than most) plus you get 10% off.
My total purchase was $64.35 shipped.
YAY!
Go get em.

bovane said:
In the Treo Pro manual you will read that the phone takes much longer to charge on a USB connection.
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I don't have a Treo (yet) but I've had the same on other devices.
The thing about a USB cable is that if no driver exists to tell the device what it's connected to, it doesn't know whether it's USB2 or USB1, so can't assume there's much power to use. (though I would have thought USB1 still presents a useful amount).
Some devices charge slowly on plain USB without software, some don't charge at all. Of those that do trickle charge, the rate can be less than the power consumed by keeping the backlight on and/or running the GPS, so all that happens is the device stays awake and runs flat quicker.
Sometimes there's a pin in the connector to indicate "this is a charger that supplies what's needed", and you can get an adaptor cable to use with generic USB cables or chargers.

Was thinking of ordering one on eBay found HERE.
Would be around €40 + €17 = €57. But this would mean it has to be shipped from the States to the Netherlands. Why isn't their any battery available a bit closer to home
At this time I get just two days if I'm lucky. Doesn't seem that to many use the 3500 mah from Seidio though. No more users tried this baby?