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Is swapping fully charged batteries better than recharging in-phone?

I bought an extra battery and charger on my Evo and noticed that recently, my Evo battery is now performing WORSE than the cheap Chinese generic knockoff battery.
The Chinese one use to run about 1 - 1.5days but now runs over 2 days (thanks to new kernel by HTC).
However, the red battery which used to give me 2 - 2.5 days run time (on older kernel), now only runs for 12hrs.
Any ideas?

Are you charging the stock red battery with the Chinese charger? You shouldnt do that. But as far as the chinese batteries, it doesn matter how you charge them.

Go into a battery program, spareparts or batteryinfo widget, and see if they are charging to the same voltage. I have several htc batteries with all about the same use, I have 2 of them that are almost a 100mv lower then the others so I "top" them off by unplugging and replugging them in a few times while charging.

sitlet said:
Are you charging the stock red battery with the Chinese charger? You shouldnt do that. But as far as the chinese batteries, it doesn matter how you charge them.
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Where did you get this info? The external chinese chargers are a slower, less powerful charge. I get more juice out of the battery than charging it in the phone, due to the quick 10% drop. Everything I have ever read says that slower charging is better for the battery in the long run. Please link where you got this from.

I have 2 batteries, the red one, and one that came with my Hero. I charge them in the cheap charger and rarely actually charge the phone.
I see no difference in battery life.

the whole quick charge tech is no good, my $4 chinese charger (no quick charge crap) works way better then charging in phone, i had an older laptop, one of the first to claim quick charge, with a battery that was wearing down about maybe 90-60min got an external charger that charges slowly and managed to recondition the already 4yr old battery to run 3hrs but went back to charging on laptop and battery slowly ran down again to about 1hr

On my PHILLIPS ppc6700, I had done this exact thing, with an eBay battery. I noticed NO difference between the two batteries, and I even ran synthetic tests to confirm. I believe I posted those results a LONG time ago on ppcfreaks.
I then bought the Saedo (sp?) 3700 ma/hr piece with the extended battery door and the dock, and that thing kicked ass. I would get like a week with an overclocked proc on fast evdo and a cooked ROM nue2chem I believe, its been a long time.
Then with my 6800 things got really bad. I went through maybe 6 phones from dead charging ports. I honestly felt like at least half of those failures (which were all replaced basically no questions asked, besides one) were due to gas-station car charges and laptop cords. Such a nightmare.
My guess is that most mini usb port failures from back then were due to the actual design standard being so loose that knock off, low cost manufacturers without precise and developed manufacturing techniques were marketing chargers that would arc my usb port to death over like a 1 hr drive. This is of course a guess. When Sprint questioned my one replacement I simply had the guy who had my phone taken apart bust out his magnifying glass and we could both clearly see burnt leads on the PCB. Couldn't see with the naked eye.
Also that older standard was thicker, and it thus exerted a little more tensional force on the port/PCB, which could have created the same effect.
Flash forward to my Evo: the new micro usb standard is FAR superior to the previous. No issues so far. Other chargers seem to work fine, without issue. You bet I was suspicious though, and I did all my checking within the return period. They DON'T have more Evos, so if you think that 8 dollars saved on a charger or something is worth it, Kool. Just as long as everyone knows the risks that have historically been associated with cheap chargers. At least anecdotally.
I would possibly consider some extended evo batter package if it was cool looking. Clear backed and extended maybe? With a small led batter level indicator on the battery itself, shining through the back with a small integrated button press.
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cruecu said:
Where did you get this info? The external chinese chargers are a slower, less powerful charge. I get more juice out of the battery than charging it in the phone, due to the quick 10% drop. Everything I have ever read says that slower charging is better for the battery in the long run. Please link where you got this from.
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same id have to agree with this !

to clarify, the chargers i use are external not a phone charger, i wouldnt use a cheap charger on any of my phones

sitlet said:
Are you charging the stock red battery with the Chinese charger? You shouldnt do that. But as far as the chinese batteries, it doesn matter how you charge them.
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Yes, i never charge from the phone anymore. I just use the phone till it dies and then swap with a fresh ly charged battery. I charge both of them in the cheap charger.
I was thinking that maybe the phone battery recalibration got whacked? Just a guess.

Any battery charges better with a lower amp charge period. I charge my deep cell boat batteries at the beginning of the season on 2 amp trickle charge. I have had them for 10 years now. Way over the life expectancy. I charge my evo batteries on a 400 milli amp wall charger. Way better charge and they charge 100% everytime.
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Okay, I'm convinced. I'm slow charging mine in an external charger.

treckin said:
On my PHILLIPS ppc6700, I had done this exact thing, with an eBay battery. I noticed NO difference between the two batteries, and I even ran synthetic tests to confirm. I believe I posted those results a LONG time ago on ppcfreaks.
I then bought the Saedo (sp?) 3700 ma/hr piece with the extended battery door and the dock, and that thing kicked ass. I would get like a week with an overclocked proc on fast evdo and a cooked ROM nue2chem I believe, its been a long time.
Then with my 6800 things got really bad. I went through maybe 6 phones from dead charging ports. I honestly felt like at least half of those failures (which were all replaced basically no questions asked, besides one) were due to gas-station car charges and laptop cords. Such a nightmare.
My guess is that most mini usb port failures from back then were due to the actual design standard being so loose that knock off, low cost manufacturers without precise and developed manufacturing techniques were marketing chargers that would arc my usb port to death over like a 1 hr drive. This is of course a guess. When Sprint questioned my one replacement I simply had the guy who had my phone taken apart bust out his magnifying glass and we could both clearly see burnt leads on the PCB. Couldn't see with the naked eye.
Also that older standard was thicker, and it thus exerted a little more tensional force on the port/PCB, which could have created the same effect.
Flash forward to my Evo: the new micro usb standard is FAR superior to the previous. No issues so far. Other chargers seem to work fine, without issue. You bet I was suspicious though, and I did all my checking within the return period. They DON'T have more Evos, so if you think that 8 dollars saved on a charger or something is worth it, Kool. Just as long as everyone knows the risks that have historically been associated with cheap chargers. At least anecdotally.
I would possibly consider some extended evo batter package if it was cool looking. Clear backed and extended maybe? With a small led batter level indicator on the battery itself, shining through the back with a small integrated button press.
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Not to go off topic but you typed all this on your evo? Does your finger hurt?
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Anyone tried wireless charging ?

Anyone tried wireless charging on DT2 or MXF ? And how was the experience ?

Works, nothing special - overnight charge from 1% to 100%

It works, but many of us have problems with the Qi charger disconnecting charge at 100% and then reconnecting after about 5% has drained. Motorola is looking into it. I may be picky on which Qi charger you use.

Maybe I did not notice this problem - as I put the phone on charge in the evening, until the next morning I take it to work.
I use cheap qi charger from ebay - ~$2.5

Use a ravpower qi charger every night, no issues, phone comes off 100% full, cool to the touch. I know some units I've tried with my Maxx back in the day kept it warm through charging.

007shark said:
It works, but many of us have problems with the Qi charger disconnecting charge at 100% and then reconnecting after about 5% has drained. Motorola is looking into it. I may be picky on which Qi charger you use.
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Hm, I haven't had this issue yet. I use a cheap generic three coil Qi charger. Is the issue just Qi or PMA chargers too? Because I was looking at buying another but this issue would be a little annoying to me.

007shark said:
It works, but many of us have problems with the Qi charger disconnecting charge at 100% and then reconnecting after about 5% has drained. Motorola is looking into it. I may be picky on which Qi charger you use.
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Exactly how it should work to prolong battery life. Keeping any battery (especially lithium) full charger for long period of time will significantly decrease its capacity.

My phone gets very warm wireless charging. I prefer fast charge
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Zeljko1234 said:
Exactly how it should work to prolong battery life. Keeping any battery (especially lithium) full charger for long period of time will significantly decrease its capacity.
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Never had a problem with that in the past even with wired chargers. I don't think in recent phones that there is actual current on the battery at all times past 100% whether charging wirelessly or wired. I'm pretty sure it goes into a maintenance mode, but it will still show charging on the display which is the important part. That is important if you use it on your nightstand as an alarm clock with wireless charging. My Sony Z3v had no problems staying in a charge state even after 100% but my Turbo 2 does not which causes it to disconnect. It will reconnect after it loses about 5%. If I don't have it silenced, it will wake me up when it reconnects. It also affects any tasks you have programmed to happen when it is charging.
From my understanding, the first Turbo did not have this problem. I think it cropped up from the inclusion of the powermat charging or maybe something related to the 810 processor. Anyway, just waiting for a definitive answer from Moto.
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Xelios029 said:
Hm, I haven't had this issue yet. I use a cheap generic three coil Qi charger. Is the issue just Qi or PMA chargers too? Because I was looking at buying another but this issue would be a little annoying to me.
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Read the thread at the Moto Support Forums. https://forums.motorola.com/posts/215aa2bb51
It doesn't seem to affect everyone which may mean it is more dependent on your charger.

damkol said:
Maybe I did not notice this problem - as I put the phone on charge in the evening, until the next morning I take it to work.
I use cheap qi charger from ebay - ~$2.5
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ahahahahhaha.....it's really cheap !!!:laugh::laugh::laugh:

RGDROID said:
Use a ravpower qi charger every night, no issues, phone comes off 100% full, cool to the touch. I know some units I've tried with my Maxx back in the day kept it warm through charging.
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Have any Qi charger brand to propose ?

I'm using a Samsung Qi puck - not the newer round plastic one, but the older more squared soft-touch one. Works great, I don't have the 100% disconnect issue.

I use the tylt qi charger the desk top one so my phone is sitting at a 60 degree angle. It works great no issues and every morning my phone is at 100% and cool to the touch

This all sounds encouraging. I think it would be helpful if people could also add a few common notes:
charger / model
any case they have on the phone (or not) when using a Qi charger
whether the phone must be in a certain orientation (e.g., horizontal vs vertical) to charge
whether the phone is at 100% - and stays there after a charge
whether the phone is cool / warm / hot once charged
A cleaned up list developed from this would be a good resource for the user community

Tylt works great phone gets warm. Itian charger is cheap from Amazon but is very finicky.
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Really, Zeljko?
Zeljko1234 said:
Exactly how it should work to prolong battery life. Keeping any battery (especially lithium) full charger for long period of time will significantly decrease its capacity.
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Uhm, that's one of the sillier things I've read today.
If it drains to 5% it's not terribly useful as a charge system regardless.
A charge controller chip is supposed to be designed to PREVENT the problem you just described.
Each charge cycle, regardless of it's form shortens the life of the battery, period. If you charge it up and then let it deplete it like that, you're damaging it as much as if you left it charging.
You kind of need to leave the stupid thing plugged in or in some wireless charge hysteresis loop so that the device isn't drained. In light of the charge system being supposed to keep the battery out of the loop until it needs to charge it again (some threshold below 100%) it shouldn't MATTER if it's "plugged in" and the device won't be pulling from the battery.

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Uhm, that's one of the sillier things I've read today.
If it drains to 5% it's not terribly useful as a charge system regardless.
A charge controller chip is supposed to be designed to PREVENT the problem you just described.
Each charge cycle, regardless of it's form shortens the life of the battery, period. If you charge it up and then let it deplete it like that, you're damaging it as much as if you left it charging.
You kind of need to leave the stupid thing plugged in or in some wireless charge hysteresis loop so that the device isn't drained. In light of the charge system being supposed to keep the battery out of the loop until it needs to charge it again (some threshold below 100%) it shouldn't MATTER if it's "plugged in" and the device won't be pulling from the battery.
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You're talking like battery expert. Well, maybe you're. Then contact those guys and tell them they're wrong
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/lithium_based_batteries

I picked up 3 Samsung qi chargers at 6 quid each on offer on Amazon (UK). They work very well although they are more a convenience thing rather than a method of charging. I use one at work. One in the bedroom and one next to the Xbox great for the work desk to keep the device topped up and frees you up from plugging and unplugging constantly BUT.... It takes absolutely ages to charge so you dont go expecting to be dumping your cabled chargers. I use the work one most of the time as I'm out and about a lot and its very useful to be able to just grab the phone without unplugging and placing back on the pad when at the desk. The turbo charger gets used at home more coz in more likely to plug in to that and jump in the shower knowing that I'll have a nice reserve of power for the pub so yes they work as advertised and work well great as a trickle charge device when you ain't in a rush. If anyone is interested ping me and I'll spend some time on giving more detailed stats such as charge times from 0% and model number of the devices I use. Away for work at the mo so probably the weekend
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Raynic
I bought the Raynic Orchard I. It charges the phone just fine, but I noticed that if the phone wants to wake up because it senses movement, it detaches and reattaches to the charter, which gets very annoying. I moved the phone to an angle where it couldn't see me (but I could see it; sensors were under my monitor stand but the rest of the phone was sticking out) and everything went smoothly after that.

Verizon QI charge stand, Verizon case, have to charge upside down
To charge our new Turbo Droid 2 in a Verizon QI stand with the Verizon case on it, the phone must be upside down. It's OK if out of the case. We have a car QI 'base' which it won't charge in either; probably exact same issue, whatever that is. Any ideas appreciated!
jdmba said:
I bought the Raynic Orchard I. It charges the phone just fine, but I noticed that if the phone wants to wake up because it senses movement, it detaches and reattaches to the charter, which gets very annoying. I moved the phone to an angle where it couldn't see me (but I could see it; sensors were under my monitor stand but the rest of the phone was sticking out) and everything went smoothly after that.
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Wireless Charging for BB Priv AT&T

Just about to get my Priv (FINALLY!), buying stuffs to armor it up - quick chargers, cases etc..
So here is the question: as there is no official wireless charger for Priv, which 3rd-party wireless charger available is best for it?

84281227 said:
Just about to get my Priv (FINALLY!), buying stuffs to armor it up - quick chargers, cases etc..
So here is the question: as there is no official wireless charger for Priv, which 3rd-party wireless charger available is best for it?
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I don't have priv yet, but planning to buy one in a few days. These are the wireless chargers I was looking at:
1) Anker
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ue&ref_=ox_sc_sfl_title_5&smid=A294P4X9EWVXLJ
2) Spigen
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ue&ref_=ox_sc_sfl_title_6&smid=A2SFKRF5TPZMT5
3) MoKo
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ue&ref_=ox_sc_sfl_title_7&smid=A2VT4H683M5NNA
4) Choetech
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ue&ref_=ox_sc_sfl_title_8&smid=A1NCVKF8LXGAA9
#3 has AC adapter included, but that is about it. I want it to be like a stand, so it will be easier to see what if I get a text, call...

Not sure if you bought one yet, but I've had mine for a few days and I can tell you the wireless chargers that will work well with this will be a select few. It seems the coil in the PRIV is near the very bottom of the back, so chargers like the spigen listed above (Which I have and use with my Nexus 7 LTE) don't work well at all. It continuously connects and disconnects because the coil is so low on the PRIV that it doesn't line up well. I also have the most recent Samsung QI charger that I got for my Note 5, and that one actually works pretty well because you can set the PRIV on it towards the very bottom of the device. Another example is trying to us the Nexus QI charging orb, which the PRIV won't work well with because putting it on there so close to the bottom causes the device to fall over the top because it's top heavy. So long story short a pad or flat surface charger will most likely be best as it allows you to position the device properly. Hopefully this helps!
PS: This is the best device I've had in a long time, and I've owned most current and past flagships. Reminds me of my days on webOS with my Palm Pres...but a million times better!

dmband64 said:
Not sure if you bought one yet, but I've had mine for a few days and I can tell you the wireless chargers that will work well with this will be a select few. It seems the coil in the PRIV is near the very bottom of the back, so chargers like the spigen listed above (Which I have and use with my Nexus 7 LTE) don't work well at all. It continuously connects and disconnects because the coil is so low on the PRIV that it doesn't line up well. I also have the most recent Samsung QI charger that I got for my Note 5, and that one actually works pretty well because you can set the PRIV on it towards the very bottom of the device. Another example is trying to us the Nexus QI charging orb, which the PRIV won't work well with because putting it on there so close to the bottom causes the device to fall over the top because it's top heavy. So long story short a pad or flat surface charger will most likely be best as it allows you to position the device properly. Hopefully this helps!
PS: This is the best device I've had in a long time, and I've owned most current and past flagships. Reminds me of my days on webOS with my Palm Pres...but a million times better!
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My Priv is arriving tomorrow I will use your recommendation when I will be buying wireless charger... It is just when using the pad, the device is laying down instead of being vertical so I could see and read messages...
By the way, have you tried to put your Priv in landscape on the wireless charger such as spigen?

Charkatak said:
My Priv is arriving tomorrow I will use your recommendation when I will be buying wireless charger... It is just when using the pad, the device is laying down instead of being vertical so I could see and read messages...
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Yeah I like the stand up chargers as well so I can view things while working. Let me know if you find a good one that works well.
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dmband64 said:
Yeah I like the stand up chargers as well so I can view things while working. Let me know if you find a good one that works well.
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I just asked users on amazon if some of the chargers do work well with Priv. Will reply here if I get any answer. Have you tried to put your Priv in landscape on the wireless charger such as spigen? The reason I asked is because I read that some user had issues with some phones which would disconnect/re-connect, but when placed horizontally on the charger, all was well.

Charkatak said:
I just asked users on amazon if some of the chargers do work well with Priv. Will reply here if I get any answer. Have you tried to put your Priv in landscape on the wireless charger such as spigen? The reason I asked is because I read that some user had issues with some phones which would disconnect/re-connect, but when placed horizontally on the charger, all was well.
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Yes it does wort of work. The problem is that the coil is so low on the Priv that it falls of when trying to put it on there horizontal. Same with the Nexus orb. It's kind of annoying. One solution with the spigen is to put something under the priv when it's on there horizontal so it meets up with the higher coil as the spigen has three coils.
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dmband64 said:
Yes it does wort of work. The problem is that the coil is so low on the Priv that it falls of when trying to put it on there horizontal. Same with the Nexus orb. It's kind of annoying. One solution with the spigen is to put something under the priv when it's on there horizontal so it meets up with the higher coil as the spigen has three coils.
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I saw 2 different Samsung chargers on amazon... Do you know the samsung charger's model # that you have described in one of your replies?

This is the one I have...
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-EP-PG...1450725284&sr=8-3&keywords=samsung+qi+charger

dmband64 said:
This is the one I have...
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-EP-PG...1450725284&sr=8-3&keywords=samsung+qi+charger
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Do you know if the main difference is the "fast charging" and if Priv might benefit from the below charger vs yours?
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Fast-...8755&sr=1-9&keywords=samsung+wireless+charger

As far as I know the PRIV is not compatible with Fast Wireless Charging, but I'm not sure. The issue is simply the placement of the PRIV's wireless coil in the back of the phone. It's nearly at the very bottom of the phone so it doesn't align well with some wireless chargers. Most phones have the coil in the middle of the back.

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As far as I know the PRIV is not compatible with Fast Wireless Charging, but I'm not sure. The issue is simply the placement of the PRIV's wireless coil in the back of the phone. It's nearly at the very bottom of the phone so it doesn't align well with some wireless chargers. Most phones have the coil in the middle of the back.
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Looks like Fast Charging is for samsung phones. I found couple of interesting chargers which are vertical:
1) http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Miko...636&sr=8-5&keywords=vertical+wireless+charger
2) http://www.amazon.com/Aukey-Wireles...636&sr=8-6&keywords=vertical+wireless+charger
I think I would get the first one....

Anyone tried the Samsung wireless charger? I was trying with the Samsung wireless charger for S6 but it doesn't work...

Just found out my device is STV100-3 which doesn't support wireless charging.... Darn darn darn..... Ahhhhhhhhh

It should work with any QI wireless charger, assuming you have a model with wireless charging built in.
UPDATE: Contrary to my previous posts...the spigen charger referenced in this thread DOES work with the PRIV. I tried it again last night with a different cable and charger and it does work perfectly. It must have been an issue with the cable and charger I was using with it previously not providing enough voltage or something. Sorry for the incorrect information.
Also, I can confirm it does work with the Samsung chargers, but the PRIV's coil is at the very bottom so you have to line up the very bottom of the phone onto the charger. Hope this helps.

dmband64 said:
It should work with any QI wireless charger, assuming you have a model with wireless charging built in.
UPDATE: Contrary to my previous posts...the spigen charger referenced in this thread DOES work with the PRIV. I tried it again last night with a different cable and charger and it does work perfectly. It must have been an issue with the cable and charger I was using with it previously not providing enough voltage or something. Sorry for the incorrect information.
Also, I can confirm it does work with the Samsung chargers, but the PRIV's coil is at the very bottom so you have to line up the very bottom of the phone onto the charger. Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the update!

Moko Standup Charger
My priv has the official blackberry leather flip case, and I'm only interested in chargers that work with the phone in the case.
I just got the Moko stand up Qi charger a few days ago and it does NOT work reliably with the Priv in a case. It seems to work some of the time, but the night before last it charged to 60% and stopped. It's pretty easy to reproduce this behavior since it's never charged to 100%. One strange thing is that even when it only charged to 60%, it's pretty warm between the Priv and the stand. I know lipo lifetime is accelerated with heat, so I don't think using this, even if charges to 60% is a great idea..
I have a cheap square samsung charger that seems to work better, but you have to find the sweet spot.
I'm still looking for one that is 100%. Eventually, I want two, one for my desk and one for my car (air vent) but I'm definitely not going to try the Moko car version.
EDIT: I made shim (out of cardboard for now) to raise the phone up in the Moko dock by 1/2 inch. It charged to 100% for the first time! The phone is still pretty warm (about 94 degrees F) but that might be the way all of the Qi chargers work.

watsys said:
My priv has the official blackberry leather flip case, and I'm only interested in chargers that work with the phone in the case.
I just got the Moko stand up Qi charger a few days ago and it does NOT work reliably with the Priv in a case. It seems to work some of the time, but the night before last it charged to 60% and stopped. It's pretty easy to reproduce this behavior since it's never charged to 100%. One strange thing is that even when it only charged to 60%, it's pretty warm between the Priv and the stand. I know lipo lifetime is accelerated with heat, so I don't think using this, even if charges to 60% is a great idea..
I have a cheap square samsung charger that seems to work better, but you have to find the sweet spot.
I'm still looking for one that is 100%. Eventually, I want two, one for my desk and one for my car (air vent) but I'm definitely not going to try the Moko car version.
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After I got my Priv, I am leaning towards this one, but have yet to decide:
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Miko...636&sr=8-5&keywords=vertical+wireless+charger

84281227 said:
Just about to get my Priv (FINALLY!), buying stuffs to armor it up - quick chargers, cases etc..
So here is the question: as there is no official wireless charger for Priv, which 3rd-party wireless charger available is best for it?
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This Meenova wireless charging dock is another choice -- adjustable, drop & charge.
http://www.amazon.com/Ultimus-Wireless-Charging-Samsung-Galaxy/dp/B014QZCFOS/ref=sr_1_8?m=A3UZZ0M53CX865&s=merchant-items&ie=UTF8&qid=1452182613&sr=1-8

Why BB want to have two versions? One with wireless and one w/o.........
US users are more privileged, while others over the other half of the world are not as privileged? :crying:

Note 7 Shipments Halted

http://www.wsj.com/articles/samsung...shipments-for-more-quality-testing-1472647803
Sorry if you can't read it

Those damn cheap microusb to usb-c connectors and cheap large voltage chargers .. sheesh. I've had no trouble with mine but then again I have quality chargers and cables I bought for my 6P. My Note 7 doesn't even get warm when charging .. at least nothing noticeable.

Turn off fast charging in settings, problem solved.

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Turn off fast charging in settings, problem solved.
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Fast charging? As I understand it - and I could be wrong - the problem isn't fast charging. it's people using unapproved USB-C cables and or chargers.

Seems to be a problem with the international models.

dkb218 said:
Fast charging? As I understand it - and I could be wrong - the problem isn't fast charging. it's people using unapproved USB-C cables and or chargers.
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It's not that it's unapproved. It's that they are using cheap cables and chargers. We went through this crap with the OnePlus3 and Nexus 6P. Cheap chargers and cables can do damage.

Well, from the looks of it. Even Anker who is pretty reliable issued a recall for almost all their usb-c cables.

dkb218 said:
Fast charging? As I understand it - and I could be wrong - the problem isn't fast charging. it's people using unapproved USB-C cables and or chargers.
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You're probably right. My Note 7 gets pretty warm when using fast-charge. And batteries don't like heat. So, since I don't really need fast-charge when I charge my phone most of the time, I turned it off. Phone no longer gets warm when charging.
Besides, batteries will last longer without excessive fast-charging.

dkb218 said:
Fast charging? As I understand it - and I could be wrong - the problem isn't fast charging. it's people using unapproved USB-C cables and or chargers.
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twe90kid said:
Well, from the looks of it. Even Anker who is pretty reliable issued a recall for almost all their usb-c cables.
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I use these with my Note 7 and Nexus 6P. Unless I just got lucky and got 6 good cables .. I use them everywhere .. work, car (Android Auto) and home .. then these are good. I highly doubt a USB-C cable that works brilliantly with the Nexus 6P would fry the Note 7. I've had mine for 12 days and when I hook the Note 7 up in my truck for AA it's charging as well and it never gets much warmer than if it were on the wireless Samsung charger.
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-BoneZ- said:
You're probably right. My Note 7 gets pretty warm when using fast-charge. And batteries don't like heat. So, since I don't really need fast-charge when I charge my phone most of the time, I turned it off. Phone no longer gets warm when charging.
Besides, batteries will last longer without excessive fast-charging.
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Maybe something is wrong with yours. My Note 7 has been sitting on the Samsung wireless charger on my desk at 100% for the last hour. Since all this has made me paranoid .. I pick it up every so often and touch it to my face. It's not even lukewarm. I don't think fast charging is the issue with this. The guy in China who reported this which later was picked up on Reddit .. his cable was just some black microusb cable with a while adapter on it and no further info. If the cable was a piece of crap and he was using a cheap wall charger .. Samsung adapter or not I think this was the cause of the boom. I could be wrong but I don't think so. Like said about .. the usb-c cable/charger subject was discussed to death about the OnePlus3 and Nexus 6P (Macbook as well) .. and it's always the same thing. Don't use cheap junk. :good:

just be careful what ur using
http://www.slashgear.com/anker-recalls-refunds-usb-c-cable-over-faulty-implementation-28453688/

aergern said:
Maybe something is wrong with yours. My Note 7 has been sitting on the Samsung wireless charger on my desk at 100% for the last hour. Since all this has made me paranoid .. I pick it up every so often and touch it to my face. It's not even lukewarm.
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If your phone is at 100%, then it's not charging. Therefore, it won't be warm. When the battery gets low, 30-40% and it's on fast-charge, it gets very warm. I don't know about the wireless charger, but it's warm with the cable. Either way, I disabled fast-charge and no more warmth.

Are we far away from FW update limiting charge current? I turned off fast charging due to phone getting hot, which is not healthy for batteries, especially if those are hard to replace and I charge overnight anyway, but on some occasion I could be in rush to charge and fast charging is the solution and I want fast charge as option, but if things go like that, the easiest fix for Samsung would be to eliminate fast charge for now.

All phones should get warm while fast charging. S7 Edge did the same thing, so did the nexus 6p.
I charge mine with fast charging every single time.

i use quick charge no problems here
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It could be they are using these cable that's being recall?
http://lifehacker.com/some-anker-usb-c-cables-are-getting-recalled-for-a-hard-1785887067

Some Anker USB C cable sold at Amazon last month could blow you note 7 up.
Guys please check if you have these Anker cable and return it back to manufacture.
http://lifehacker.com/some-anker-usb-c-cables-are-getting-recalled-for-a-hard-1785887067

If that cable delivers 20 volts designed for PC, to the phone designed for 9v max, that would double the amperage and quadruple total power drawn, I can easily see how that could burn the whole phone to crisp.
Going back to fast charge on N7, I'm sure it's well designed and the heat well within specs (it's even mentioned in manual), but the fact remains that higher operating temp of battery, the lower (slightly) life span of the battery. With battery sealed inside and rather difficult to replace I want to prolong it's life to maximum and if I charge overnight, which I do often, don't care if it even takes 6hrs. BTW if the faulty cable is the real culprit, it's a very good news and shipping of N7 should resume soon. It would be shame if such a good phone got bad reputation undeserved.

http://www.androidauthority.com/reports-samsung-considering-note-7-recall-battery-pack-blame-714126/
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-BoneZ- said:
You're probably right. My Note 7 gets pretty warm when using fast-charge. And batteries don't like heat. So, since I don't really need fast-charge when I charge my phone most of the time, I turned it off. Phone no longer gets warm when charging.
Besides, batteries will last longer without excessive fast-charging.
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http://www.androidauthority.com/reports-samsung-considering-note-7-recall-battery-pack-blame-714126/
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Actually, it's not. It was reported on quite a few sites that Samsung sourced the battery packs locally for it's variations. So the South Korean company that made the battery packs for the South Korean release is the one that is possibly the cause of all this hoopla. The few handsets out of the millions produced that have had issues with these crap cables and chargers have been in South Korea. None of the EU/NorthAm phones have been reported to have had this happen at all. Maybe unnamed sources that aren't Samsung themselves should be taken with a grain of salt. Maybe we should wait for an official statement from Samsung before running in circles and screaming the sky is falling. It's a thought.
I'm not saying it couldn't be a massive, global recall but based on the 30+ articles I've read .. most of which messaged to me by my iPhone owning friends .. this seems like a bad batch in South Korea. I had a gasket issue on my motorcycle that was part of a recall .. will I stop buying that brand because of it. No. And before you start talking about fire and explosions .. oil spewing out of a gasket onto a tire while doing 70mph ... same thing.

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Turn off fast charging in settings, problem solved.
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oh yeah? turn off a key feature of the phone, and problem solved?
if the camera was faulty, would you simply not use it, and be okay with it?
the iris scanner, if it didn't work, would you just disable it?

Is wireless charging good for your battery?

The thing causes my S8 to heat up, even when I turn off the fast option, more so than fast wired charging. Is it really good for my battery health when the phone is heating up for the entire two or three hours on the charger?

with the official samsung one that has a fan?

The phone will stop charging automatically if it thinks the temperature is not comfortable.
Do not stress over things that are mentioned in the manual, inductive charging will generate more heat than a wire, but the phone is more than capable of managing the process and stopping if things get too hot.
And no, the temperature isn't going to get high enough to damage your battery. (Unless you are using unauthorized wireless chargers / fakes that can cause the actual metal casing to heat up, google this).

I too had this question back when I bought my Wireless Charger for my S7. Interesting to get more feedback from the others. E.g. Does it shorten the battery life quicker considering it heats up the battery more than on cable.

I've wireless charged my s7 since I got it and also wireless charge my s8. I've also added wireless charging to an LG G3 and G4. IMO it does not degrade the battery and fast. The way I look at it, it saves the charging port from 100's maybe 1000's of plugs/unplugs. It's also a point of device failure, so from that perspective, it's better. Again, IMHO.

notice it too.

How about if you introduce the extra variable of putting the thin metal thingies for magnetic car mounts between the phone and the case? Does that change the situation?

Another variable is a case, which can add to heat build-up. Overall, I have seen nothing definitive that suggests that heat won't adversely effect battery life. Notwithstanding the money companies make selling QI chargers.
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Guitarboarder28 said:
with the official samsung one that has a fan?
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Well the fan is for the charger itself isnt it?
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AB__CD said:
Well the fan is for the charger itself isnt it?
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I believe its to cool the phone

The fan in the authentic Samsung Desktop charger only activates if fast wireless charging is turned on in the phone.
The fan is to cool the phone.
I use the Samsung desktop stand but usually just normal charge it to which apart from typical heat being discharged I've not experienced any other issue.
I do not use a case.
There is opinion that constantly using Fast Charging can reduce the batteries condition over time. Wether you believe this is personal opinion. I've only Fast charged maybe 2-3 times if I've needed a quick boost of juice.

I noticed this too when I put my new S8+ on the wireless charger built into my truck. This was the first time I tried it so I wasn't sure if the phone getting hot was a normal thing or not

Dark5tar said:
I too had this question back when I bought my Wireless Charger for my S7. Interesting to get more feedback from the others. E.g. Does it shorten the battery life quicker considering it heats up the battery more than on cable.
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Hi, the phone can handle it if it gets too hot during wireless charging.
Always be assured since that the electric current of wireless charging is 1A, which is lower than the current for wired charging 1.6A. That's to say, it creates less heat while charging. So actually the wireless charging helps prolong the longevity of your lithium-ion battery, except for the longer charging time.
Besides, only semiconductors that flow through current could produce heat (such as your phone's cover), the lithium-ion battery doesn't have current go through, so it's safe from the heat.

I only wireless charge in my car. My dash mount is setup for during the warmer months I will have the the AC it vent blowing cool air directly on the back of the phone. If I don't do this, I get the wireless charging pause error caused by the heat sensors.

AB__CD said:
The thing causes my S8 to heat up, even when I turn off the fast option, more so than fast wired charging. Is it really good for my battery health when the phone is heating up for the entire two or three hours on the charger?
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Fear not, the phone battery doesn't generate heat itself, the smartphone is actually smart enough to protect itself from the heating generated by the wireless charging unless you put it under the extreme heating weather, so the phone should be safe from the heat.