Was just at a store and saw iphone 6 camera and i was amazed on how amazing it was so my question is how is iphone 6 8mp camera better than 20mp Z2? None of android phones have come close to iPhone 6 camera. Why is that? Not that i like apple products.
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Mmmm... I'm not so sure this is true. I believe I saw that the Z2's camera was far better than the iphone 5s's camera. I don't know if there is a huge improvement with the 6, but I'm pretty sure Sony did a very good job. I love the camera on this phone. It works VERY well. It takes VERY good shots in low light, they even look like they're awesome pictures during the day. Check this one out in a low light shot.
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I think it's damn fine for a camera phone and I don't know if Apple's could do any better, TBH.
Either way, both phones are very good phones, except for the bending that's happening on the 6+.
sofia-captivate said:
Was just at a store and saw iphone 6 camera and i was amazed on how amazing it was so my question is how is iphone 6 8mp camera better than 20mp Z2? None of android phones have come close to iPhone 6 camera. Why is that? Not that i like apple products.
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a recent photoshoot out, showed a 83 score for iphone 6 (both models) and 79 for S5 Z3 and Z2.
So it's really close, for the normal untrained eye you probably can not see the difference.
Now sony should wake up. They should start thinking how to improve their camera app. Though it is acceptable as of now but if apple can do it why can't sony to be the best in camera.
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a recent photoshoot out, showed a 83 score for iphone 6 (both models) and 79 for S5 Z3 and Z2.
So it's really close, for the normal untrained eye you probably can not see the difference.
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It showed that the Z3's so called camera low light improvements were not an upgrade, rather PR spin.
styxter said:
Now sony should wake up. They should start thinking how to improve their camera app. Though it is acceptable as of now but if apple can do it why can't sony to be the best in camera.
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A 4 point difference isn't huge and as judging photos is always gonna be subjective I'd be surprised if some people didn't go the other way. TBH I'm surprised Apple haven't done better bearing in mind that, as I understand it, that the Z2 camera isn't a huge jump over the z1 camera.
Martinus said:
a recent photoshoot out, showed a 83 score for iphone 6 (both models) and 79 for S5 Z3 and Z2.
So it's really close, for the normal untrained eye you probably can not see the difference.
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Would you care to share the link for this so-called photshoot? I have failed to find an iPhone 6 (or plus) vs. Sony's Z3 and/or Z2.
Cheers,
The Z2 camera will also stay pointing straight ahead rather than slightly upwards after being in your pocket
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Would you care to share the link for this so-called photshoot? I have failed to find an iPhone 6 (or plus) vs. Sony's Z3 and/or Z2.
Cheers,
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It's not photoshoot, it's just iP6/iP6+ review and chart for comparison. But here you go:
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Appl...et-gold-standard-for-smartphone-image-quality
Cheers
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It's not photoshoot, it's just iP6/iP6+ review and chart for comparison. But here you go:
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Appl...et-gold-standard-for-smartphone-image-quality
Cheers
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I am sorry, but if this is the photoshoot Martinus was referring to, then I will take with a lot of caution what it says, coming from DxOmark and the fact that they have put iPhones and Sony's above the Nokia 808. I thought that Martinus was talking about real life shots comparisons between the Iphone 6 (or plus) vs. the Sony. All this benchmark test are really not meaningful IMHO, unless backed up by side-by-side comparison shoots and real life examples.
Thank you in any case,
Cheers! :good:
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I am sorry, but if this is the photoshoot Martinus was referring to, then I will take with a lot of caution what it says, coming from DxOmark and the fact that they have put iPhones and Sony's above the Nokia 808. I thought that Martinus was talking about real life shots comparisons between the Iphone 6 (or plus) vs. the Sony. All this benchmark test are really not meaningful IMHO, unless backed up by side-by-side comparison shoots and real life examples.
Thank you in any case,
Cheers! :good:
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I referred indeed to the site mentioned, it's indeed just a numbers game. Real life has to come. sorry to disappoint.
Here's a comparison of iPhone 6 vs Galaxy S5 cameras. I couldn't find a comparison with Z2, but see the pics and videos. Don't listen what the guy is saying. Judge yourself!
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Here's a comparison of iPhone 6 vs Galaxy S5 cameras. I couldn't find a comparison with Z2, but see the pics and videos. Don't listen what the guy is saying. Judge yourself!
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Thank you ! But, I cannot see it ! ??
The Sony Z2 camera for me is pretty good in the light, terrible at night (or in low light). I would not say it is the best camera
Talk to professional photographer and ask him how to set up your camera settings...
Then try
Camera is great, you just have to know how to use it...
AutoMOD is average, not bad but when you know how to use manual mod you can get incredible results.
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Talk to professional photographer and ask him how to set up your camera settings...
Then try
Camera is great, you just have to know how to use it...
AutoMOD is average, not bad but when you know how to use manual mod you can get incredible results.
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Any samples you want to share ? [emoji6]
I carry both the Z2 and iPhone 6 on a daily basis and I prefer the Z2's camera.
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I carry both the Z2 and iPhone 6 on a daily basis and I prefer the Z2's camera.
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Would be possible for you to take some samples of the same canvas with both phones?
Thanks a lot !!!!
I don't know what is the problem!
What have the Mega Pixels do with the image quality?
MegaPixels is just the size of the picture... that's it! I could have a camera with 3 megapixels and shoot better pictures than a camera of 30 MP...
The quality of the sensor and the lenses are the most important thing...
I love my Z2 camera but I've seen Iphone 5/5s shoot pictures (specially at night) that would be compared to a proper camera!!!
Nice to see Apple are being innovative and giving you the option of a DIY curved screen.
Related
With a quick searched on the internet, I noticed that the Galaxy S4 has a sensor camera equivalent / equal Xperia Z, but your pictures are generated with 4Mb to 6.5MB, while the Xperia Z is 1Mb to 2.5Mb.
Follow the link to get an idea of the difference image!
We must inform Sony that we are completely unhappy with the image compression!
http://samsung.hdblog.it/2013/04/17/samsung-galaxy-s4-test-fotocamera-da-13-megapixel-by-hdblog/
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With a quick searched on the internet, I noticed that the Galaxy S4 has a sensor camera equivalent / equal Xperia Z, but your pictures are generated with 4Mb to 6.5MB, while the Xperia Z is 1Mb to 2.5Mb.
Follow the link to get an idea of the difference image!
We must inform Sony that we are completely unhappy with the image compression!
http://samsung.hdblog.it/2013/04/17/samsung-galaxy-s4-test-fotocamera-da-13-megapixel-by-hdblog/
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First off, replace "we" with "I". Second, SGS4 uses an unknown sensor with the same megapixel count as the Sony Exmor sensor, but then megapixels mean nothing anyway. Also, while there is a big discrepancy in file size, there is a not very big discrepancy in photo quality while zoomed in (compare photos at http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_vs_sony_xperia_z-review-915p8.php) if you look at image sharpness and ignore colour saturation and that sort of things. I don't see why the XZ photo file sizes should then be doubled just because the SGS4 has larger photo sizes.
compression isn't bad, in my opinion
its the same sensor.check anadtech s4 dissasmbly.by the way they are using same sensor with different module.i dont have a Z or S4 to talk about quality though
The images quality will much much more better if Sony reduce the compression, or at least let user decide jpeg quality.
I think the issue isn't about compression but denoise algorythms.
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OH GUYS !
Sony have a answer :victory:
Read the answer here i hope now they will optimize the Camera :
http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/126134
dubist said:
OH GUYS !
Sony have a answer :victory:
Read the answer here i hope now they will optimize the Camera :
http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/126134
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Let's hope that there really is an improvement on the camera!
I remember when I bought my Xperia S, the first fw the camera was bad enough, but the latest updates have improved a lot!
Please vote in my research, so I can present the results to Sony!
What research??
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What research??
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2232999
Guys, look this: http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/04/1...against-the-galaxy-s4-and-htc-one/#more-14312
I don't know if this related, but Sony recently applied heavy processing and compression to picture using there DSLR.
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Guys, look this: http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/04/1...against-the-galaxy-s4-and-htc-one/#more-14312
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yeah i write them an Email that they should Post something and you have done that :victory:
Here the Email i wrote to Xperiablog
Its a combination of both compression (jpeg) and noise suppression (when using high ISO)
The amount of compression/suppression applied is ridiculous.
Does the "developers" of the cam part know anything about digital photography at all?
Paying premium for a low end camera....Sony think the customers are stupid?
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Its a combination of both compression (jpeg) and noise suppression (when using high ISO)
The amount of compression/suppression applied is ridiculous.
Does the "developers" of the cam part know anything about digital photography at all?
Paying premium for a low end camera....Sony think the customers are stupid?
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No, Sony is smart enough to know that your phone is not meant to take DSLR quality photos.
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pandaball said:
No, Sony is smart enough to know that your phone is not meant to take DSLR quality photos.
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Who is talking about DSLR quality?
It not even half descent by todays phone standard...
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Who is talking about DSLR quality?
It not even half descent by todays phone standard...
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Define "today's phone standard". It is one of the better phone cameras out there, as compared to phones like the HTC One. It takes absolutely brilliant shots of landscapes in my experience (borrowed a friend's XZ just to play with the camera)
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Define "today's phone standard". It is one of the better phone cameras out there, as compared to phones like the HTC One. It takes absolutely brilliant shots of landscapes in my experience (borrowed a friend's XZ just to play with the camera)
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oh sorry, i should have said yesterday's standard.
Now go get your Arc, XPS, XPV and compare
Bromsoket said:
oh sorry, i should have said yesterday's standard.
Now go get your Arc, XPS, XPV and compare
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With pleasure. (both are done on auto/superior auto respectively)
Xperia Arc: ~2.5MB, super long exposure times and thus overexposed images
Xperia V: ~2MB, slightly oversaturated blues
No XS though
But seriously, XZ is pretty darn good for the file size already.
GUYS DO NOT LET THE NOKIA WIN OUR XPERIA Z1 IN FINAL
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http://www.fonearena.com/blog/91508/final-nokia-lumia-1020-vs-sony-xperia-z1-smartfone13.html
I don't know why the Nokia is considered one of the best smartphone. There are so many better choices that a phone with a overpowered camera
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wow this poll is very, very close..
Sony make the better phone all round, Android beats Windows any day of the week.
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MixaDJ said:
GUYS DO NOT LET THE NOKIA WIN OUR XPERIA Z1 IN FINAL
Source:
Vote.
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/91508/final-nokia-lumia-1020-vs-sony-xperia-z1-smartfone13.html
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Thread tile reads PHONE ARENA. but the URL is of FONE ARENA. Two different web sites.
FONE ARENA isn't a site that comes recommended very highly. This is just a people's vote. Meh. What's popular isn't always the best.
As for PHONE ARENA, the reviews of the two phones are already out.
Z1 - 9.2 & 1020 - 8.5
These scores are by the reviewers of that site.
Better comparison would be Z1 vs 1520. Same size sensor for a start.
1520 - 9.0
Nokia has the better software because WP8 allows manual focus, shutter speed selection & RAW which android still does not permit.
c312eal said:
I don't know why the Nokia is considered one of the best smartphone. There are so many better choices that a phone with a overpowered camera
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Because it's actually a good camera. Considering there's such a hoo-ha about how great the camera on the Z1 it actually is a joke. It's grainy and generally an all round crap camera. My galaxy s3 takes better photos.
The only reason why I had to ditch windows phone is cause the notification system doesn't work properly, everything else about it is fantastic.
Nokia made some terrible choices but they without a doubt make damn good phone-camera mash ups which is more and more important now.
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Voted
Give micro$oft hell!
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trashpants said:
Considering there's such a hoo-ha about how great the camera on the Z1 it actually is a joke. It's grainy and generally an all round crap camera. My galaxy s3 takes better photos.
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Crap? lol. People are so extreme, either it's the best camera ever or the worst camera ever. The Z1's camera's no way a joke. It's not the best but it's not crap either.
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Thread tile reads PHONE ARENA. but the URL is of FONE ARENA. Two different web sites.
FONE ARENA isn't a site that comes recommended very highly. This is just a people's vote. Meh. What's popular isn't always the best.
As for PHONE ARENA, the reviews of the two phones are already out.
Z1 - 9.2 & 1020 - 8.5
These scores are by the reviewers of that site.
Better comparison would be Z1 vs 1520. Same size sensor for a start.
1520 - 9.0
Nokia has the better software because WP8 allows manual focus, shutter speed selection & RAW which android still does not permit.
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FONE ARENA isn't a site that comes recommended very highly LOL Check the site's stats you will come to know is it recommended or not...Site has got extremely awesome record and one of the best Tech site startups ever made by any "individual person" on Planet Earth. ( Millions of traffic it has got daily ).
If you don't know about its Alexa Rank, Page Rank and traffic stats and reader's strength then don't pass your judgement..!!!
Rest whatever you said about Z1, I agree.
Was going to vote Nokia cause it looks and feels nice compared to Z1 but what makes a phone a phone is the UI and apps. So I choose Z1 cause of android almost limitless customization options and huge number of app selection which no other phone has.
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Voted.
kantk20111 said:
Crap? lol. People are so extreme, either it's the best camera ever or the worst camera ever. The Z1's camera's no way a joke. It's not the best but it's not crap either.
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To be really blunt, when you move to updated hardware, no matter which device you had before you should expect to excel and be better in every department than your old hardware. It technically might be there... But the fact superior auto mode is absurdly inferior to what I get off much older hardware is very very bad.
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FONE ARENA isn't a site that comes recommended very highly LOL Check the site's stats you will come to know is it recommended or not...Site has got extremely awesome record and one of the best Tech site startups ever made by any "individual person" on Planet Earth. ( Millions of traffic it has got daily ).
If you don't know about its Alexa Rank, Page Rank and traffic stats and reader's strength then don't pass your judgement..!!!
Rest whatever you said about Z1, I agree.
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Pulls loads of fanboys and i'm going by what other people said elsewhere about it. Couldn't care less about their stats. Voting polls are such a great way to push said stats up isn't it.
So i will repeat it again. fone arena (with an F) isn't a site i'd bother with.
Only thing stopping the 1020 from being more popular is the asinine pricing of it in India. Hello Nokia! your other models were cheaper and actually offered serious competition so WTF did you price the 1020 more than the note 3.
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Pulls loads of fanboys and i'm going by what other people said elsewhere about it. Couldn't care less about their stats.
So i will repeat it again. fone arena (with an F) isn't a site i'd bother with.
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A smart person wouldn't not bother this comment of yours
Vote for Z1 on GSMArena against Lumia 1520
http://blog.gsmarena.com/smartphone-champions-league-quarterfinals/
Xperia Z1 CAMERA!!!!
Better image quality with 3MP than 8MP
Today I was playing with the camera on the Z1, but most of the attention I spoke to the resolution
3MP VS 8MP
On pictures with 3MP noticed the following:
less noise!
less artifacts!
much sharper images, especially in weak lighting conditions!
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pixel bining from 20MP, read it up.
Probably because 3mp captures less detail, so you see less artifacting/noise
Sure. On your screen.
Print it as wallpaper and miss the pixeles...
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The calculation is simply. The size of the sensor can acquire a certain quantity of light then if you use 8mpx or even 20mpx, for the sensor is too much so he have to recover the definition with huge processing and in this case you will see on the pictures all this kind of artifacts and noise, but when you use 3mpx the sensor is even much more and then you see amazing quality colors and nice pictures but just when you zoom a bit into the picture you will see the distortion because of less pixel density. That 20mpx or 8mpx is just to much for the sensor of Z1.
eclyptos said:
The calculation is simply. The size of the sensor can acquire a certain quantity of light then if you use 8mpx or even 20mpx, for the sensor is too much so he have to recover the definition with huge processing and in this case you will see on the pictures all this kind of artifacts and noise, but when you use 3mpx the sensor is even much more and then you see amazing quality colors and nice pictures but just when you zoom a bit into the picture you will see the distortion because of less pixel density. That 20mpx or 8mpx is just to much for the sensor of Z1.
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Yes the quality of picture will be lost with 3mp when ZOOM IN but who does zooming these days, most pictures end up on the Internet in regular size not cropped. The z1 has awesome zoom but the zoom still ruins the picture.
@Djuro89 great test mate :thumbup:
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Yes the quality of picture will be lost with 3mp when ZOOM IN but who does zooming these days,
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I am a Detective, I have too. lol..haha...
I can even tell 8MP photos are way better than 3MPs. White balance, exposure, focus is better. I use 20MP with manual shots sometimes and it gives great results with right settings.
Step one: sell the crap while u can
Step two: get an lg g2
I did and i am so vey happy that i got rid of the sony and got a much better all around phone
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I am a Detective, I have too. lol..haha...
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Lol , well i doubt you'll be using Z1 for detective photos , it just takes forever to set up everything manually for a decent photo
jimakos29 said:
Step one: sell the crap while u can
Step two: get an lg g2
I did and i am so vey happy that i got rid of the sony and got a much better all around phone
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Post of the day ! :thumbsup:
Many complaints of camera but at the end of the day most of them add instagram filters etc!
jimakos29 said:
Step one: sell the crap while u can
Step two: get an lg g2
I did and i am so vey happy that i got rid of the sony and got a much better all around phone
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Did you really buy an xperia z1 or are you trolling? I have one and daily I look at it atleast once in admiration. Absolutely the best phone out there.
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Did you really buy an xperia z1 or are you trolling? I have one and daily I look at it once in admiration. Absolutely the best phone or there.
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Well said
Yeaaa, 3mp beat 20mp, buy the K800 and use 3.2mp. hahah
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Welcome to the low-mid end camera / phone marketing BS .
Small sensor + high pixel count = crap
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Welcome to the low-mid end camera / phone marketing BS .
Small sensor + high pixel count = crap
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High pixel count, no small sensor, crap SOFTWARE!
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High pixel count, no small sensor, crap SOFTWARE!
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Agreed!
It's a shame really gs5, one 2, z2 are coming out in just 1/2 months and when that happen z1 will be completely forgotten which IMO is sad since we never got to see the true power of its camera thanks to sony for ****ty software.
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Gitaroo said:
pixel bining from 20MP, read it up.
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+1. More pixel binning. So better pics
jimakos29 said:
Step one: sell the crap while u can
Step two: get an lg g2
I did and i am so vey happy that i got rid of the sony and got a much better all around phone
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Maybe as a quick point and shoot, yeah, the LG G2 might be a little better, but in all around performance, I much prefer my Z1 over my dad's G2.
What small sensor people are referring !! Its 1/2.3" !! Same as all entry to mid level digital cameras
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Here they did a test with most new phones including the Z5! Shame i cant link the photo's directly so you have to go to the link it self http://www.phonearena.com/news/First-Xperia-Z5-vs-iPhone-6-Plus-vs-S6-vs-Z3-vs-G4-camera-samples-comparison_id73408
The Z5 takes pretty awesome shots and its way better then the z3 camera. The colors look so much more correct and in some phones it beats the sgs6.
Edit:
http://support.sonymobile.com/us/contactUs/phone/?region=en_US and ask if they can add RAW support
I like iphone 6 plus more.
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I like iphone 6 plus more.
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the red on the iphone looks washed out or better said, the amount of light on the car is captured more on it. the z5 captures the real color from my perspective
In my opinion Z5 is better than Iphone 6+ and GS6, colors of the 2 is slightly saturated.
Regardless of color accuracy, the resolution increase still does not helps getting sharper images. There is too much noise reduction applied, especially compared to iPhone 6. Apple here does a decent job although I'd rather have much more noise and no NR applied in camera. Worst offender is LG, which applies an insane post-NR sharpening.
I think we should wait for production samples and hopefully some 3rd party app that can leverage better on this new sensor. Otherwise there is no real advantage against Samsung or Apple.
As for color accuracy, it really comes down to the app and how much processing is done. On my screen (which is calibrated, but it's not best quality panel) and to my eye Z5 has decent overall color rendition, but I prefer the G4 in the first picture (less punch but the overall colors are more accurate) and the iPhone in the third.
In the end, we are not yet at compact camera level - maybe next iteration (z6 or z7 or whatever they will call it). I'd really love to have an RX100 performance squeezed into a phone
Found a site with more samples pics from the Z5 vs note 5. http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4523/4953454/1/rv/sony-xperia-z5-compact-review/ Its a close call but Z5 wins when its shoots a photo in the dark tho.
All photo's on the left side are made by Z5 and right side is the note 5
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Found a site with more samples pics from the Z5 vs note 5. http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4523/4953454/1/rv/sony-xperia-z5-compact-review/ Its a close call but Z5 wins when its shoots a photo in the dark tho.
All photo's on the left side are made by Z5 and right side is the note 5
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Am I the only one seeing that low light photos look good on Note 5. Specially the example you gave, Note 5 has more details compared to Z5. Yea we all know that Samsung dose produce more warmer pics which makes the photo looks yellowish, but if you take a closer look the noise reduction is so aggressive in Z5.
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P.S: Ah no wonder you seem to mix up the two photos. Note 5 indeed do look better here.
Sony for some reason still cannot make a good camera. Note 5 does look much better in almost every situation.
Also look at the sky in that one pictre. Z5 completely burnt while Note 5 shows some nice detail
http://www.uberlin.co.uk/berlin-moments-september-7th-september-15th/
These pictures looks awesome. and yea it got lotta details too. We need further tests to see how it's done. Since they can always get it right with software.
New camera module absolutely promising. Specially colour accuracy.
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Sony for some reason still cannot make a good camera. Note 5 does look much better in almost every situation.
Also look at the sky in that one pictre. Z5 completely burnt while Note 5 shows some nice detail
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Think its time you get some glasses bro. The first one and clearly the best low light photo is made with the Z5 not the note. Even if you zoom in on the billboard etc you see that the note blurs and has to much overexposed. But both are good camera's tho/.
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http://www.uberlin.co.uk/berlin-moments-september-7th-september-15th/
These pictures looks awesome. and yea it got lotta details too. We need further tests to see how it's done. Since they can always get it right with software.
New camera module absolutely promising. Specially colour accuracy.
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WOW those pictures look indeed pretty awesome!!! But they are taken by a pro tho with a tripod.
I am a Sony Fan But i Must admit the samsung note 5 is killing sony camera what a poor detail in z5 i hope there is improvement in the last release
Yea Note 5 has a great camera indeed, but I am pretty sure this is related to Software, and eprice device doesn't have the latest camera UI that means it's not running on the latest build, so untill then we can't really say which is better.
But overall Sony has good colour accuracy when it's day-time, I hope it'll be fixed with updates. I really want is more control over the camera such as Manual shutter speed and raw. Hope to see more improvement before the phone's released.
Sony has never been good at software, just hardware. It's just a... Mystery
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Sony has never been good at software, just hardware. It's just a... Mystery
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Specially when it comes to Camera software they don't seem to be doing great.
I am always surprised that despite making good cameras and selling camera parts to other phone manufacturers, Sony phones have the worse cameras in the mobile phone industry. The Z3 camera is terrible relative to Apples and Samsungs and their previous phones were even worse. Hopefully they finally fix it with the Z5.
Wow....
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Yea Note 5 has a great camera indeed, but I am pretty sure this is related to Software, and eprice device doesn't have the latest camera UI that means it's not running on the latest build, so untill then we can't really say which is better.
But overall Sony has good colour accuracy when it's day-time, I hope it'll be fixed with updates. I really want is more control over the camera such as Manual shutter speed and raw. Hope to see more improvement before the phone's released.
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What latest camera ui?
I love LG G4 most
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What latest camera ui?
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Source.
LeEco Le 2 X620 (non-Pro) uses the same rear camera. Samples: 1, 2, 3, 4.
To be honest, it looks like this phone's camera would be average at best. What a pity
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LeEco Le 2 X620 (non-Pro) uses the same rear camera. Samples: 1, 2, 3, 4.
To be honest, it looks like this phone's camera would be average at best. What a pity
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Well that is disappointing, why they would cripple such and incredible device with a sub par camera makes no sense?
I was all before this now will need to see some reviews on the camera in real life before I drop $1000 CAN on it
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A properly written driver could improve the camera's performance but it's still an average one. I wish it used Mi Note 2's IMX318 but sacrifices had to be made to keep the price low.
Xiaomi always uses few suppliers for their camera sensor so this could be just one variant out of many.
The reason of not using IMX318 or even IMX378, I guess is due to keep the phone slim. There is a huge 4400mah battery and many other things like ultrasonic sensor, piezoelectric ceramic, to fit in a body that's slightly bigger than iPhone 7 Plus.
Mi Mix is a design first product, hence expect other aspects of the phone to be average.
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A properly written driver could improve the camera's performance but it's still an average one. I wish it used Mi Note 2's IMX318 but sacrifices had to be made to keep the price low.
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There is far less likelihood of me purchasing it due to poor camera performance as opposed to higher cost.
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Would the Mi Mix work on US AT&T?
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wow, the #2 sample link..... not a single fully in focus shot. I use the camera rarely but damn, if i lay down this much cash for a device i want it to work adequately well
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wow, the #2 sample link..... not a single fully in focus shot. I use the camera rarely but damn, if i lay down this much cash for a device i want it to work adequately well
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It is possible to improve its performance using a proper driver, we can only guess until we see a real review of the Mix. LeEco's phones have awesome specs but have horrible firmware - check Le Pro 3 and compare it to OnePlus 3 which has the exact same sensor.
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Yes but not LTE. Only 2 out of 4 bands for LTE.
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It is possible to improve its performance using a proper driver, we can only guess until we see a real review of the Mix. LeEco's phones have awesome specs but have horrible firmware - check Le Pro 3 and compare it to OnePlus 3 which has the exact same sensor.
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yeah but from that review the oneplus doesn't look spectacular as well, unless you're talking about some after market drivers that boosted oneplus even further? Also is there any info on the panel itself? viewing angles, sharpness, colors etc. FHD on that size of a screen is a bit low i'd say. it might be what kills it for me, coming from note 4
Well, I'm out.
Could forgive an OmniVision for the selfie camera.
Rear camera? No way. They're total crap and completely inadequate for a device of this cost and design.
Check it out from 1:30 onwards.
That doesn't look too good unfortunately. And the Mi Note 2 isn't that much better either as I'd have hoped. Hopefully Huawei releases something better next week with CM support (one can dream).
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That doesn't look too good unfortunately. And the Mi Note 2 isn't that much better either as I'd have hoped. Hopefully Huawei releases something better next week with CM support (one can dream).
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The Mi Note 2 has a better sensor than the iPhone, and by some margin. Exposure control just looked poor ... but then exposure control on the front camera was much, much worse on the iPhone than the Mix.
But the Mix's rear camera sensor is **** ... there's no two ways about it. Huge amounts of noise, chromatic aberration, distortion and very poor detail resolution.
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The Mi Note 2 has a better sensor than the iPhone, and by some margin. Exposure control just looked poor ... but then exposure control on the front camera was much, much worse on the iPhone than the Mix.
But the Mix's rear camera sensor is **** ... there's no two ways about it. Huge amounts of noise, chromatic aberration, distortion and very poor detail resolution.
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So even custom software/drivers to run it won't help it much?
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So even custom software/drivers to run it won't help it much?
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None of the Omnivision camera modules are really suitable for rear cameras on devices costing more than $200 in my view. As selfie cameras some of them are adequate.
I'm guessing Sharp more or less engineered the phone for Xiaomi, which wouldn't have been cheap, and the screen module etc would be extremely expensive ... so I guess they're trying to cut as many costs as they can elsewhere.
P.S. I was in Kaunas last year ... Moksha, a little Asian restaurant, was very pleasant
only one that doesn't care about the camera? I just wanna know if we will get custom Roms for this thing. It literally looks like my dream phone, can't for the life of me understand why it took Xiaomi to make something like this.
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Check it out from 1:30 onwards.
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The first part with detailed pictures is also quite depressing. That's a shame, even with a tweaked firmware the camera would be mediocre
Uhm, nevermind.
Lorddeff07 said:
only one that doesn't care about the camera? I just wanna know if we will get custom Roms for this thing. It literally looks like my dream phone, can't for the life of me understand why it took Xiaomi to make something like this.
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well people want to get an all around good experience. it is rather cheap in china, but the international resellers are blowing up the prices. so when the phone totals near the same price an s7 or s8 would cost, they expect similar quality