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So, here is my story.
I have tried Fresh 1.1, and I found that I was getting may too many reboots both on the phone and on Sense for my liking.
So I switched to Modaco 2, and have been very happy for a while...
I just had yet another reboot.
I was listening to some music, when I had a notification for an email. Looked at the email, tried to lock my phone, then tried to unlock, and that's when the music went off, and my phone rebooted itself....
I'm really getting tired of this. I have not loaded any new apps in the past 2 days. I have minimal apps anyway (Facebook, Weatherbug, Handcent, NPR News, Touchdown, Power Manager and Droidswap, that is it)
does anyone have any history of problems with Droidswap ?
I'm really getting frustrated. I hate when this happens, and I'm giving realy consideration into curtailing my brief incursion onto Android and returning back to the iphone....which is a real shame, as I f**king hate ATT
I would recommend taking your phone back to the store. I have not have had one unplanned reboot the entire time I've had my Hero (bought on release date Oct 9). I'm running Fresh 1.1 now, and had 1.0 previously. There is something seriously wrong with your phone.
I have no problem speaking for the entire android community when I say...
"its been nice knowing you, good luck with the iPhone and att"
Honestly...I have never had a full reboot on its own.
I have seen Sense close out and have to reload usually after I play an intensive game, racing or something like that with alot of graphics. I assume it just runs out of ram and does its thing to get resources back.
That's a rare occasion there's not much people that it has happened to from what I seen. Did u try to wipe your phone and cache & whatnot, do some of that and see what happens
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Jdog stop trolling because u definitively don't speak for the Android community...
bronxknight28 said:
Jdog stop trolling because u definitively don't speak for the Android community...
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I think I can speak for the whole Android community when I say. "Please don't go" - The more of us we have the better. Given, I completely understand frustration and disappointment.
bronxknight28 said:
That's a rare occasion there's not much people that it has happened to from what I seen. Did u try to wipe your phone and cache & whatnot, do some of that and see what happens
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Jdog stop trolling because u definitively don't speak for the Android community...
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Bronx,
Myself and many other members of this site and over at modaco's site have given advise on this issue. Griff insulted flipz and other devs in the fresh Rom thread, then went to modaco and started talking trash on the devs here.
Every post is about this reboot problem, that no one can seem to replicate.
I apologize for being rude but if someone doesn't take any of the advise given,then continues to clutter up the forums with new threads about the same thing it ticks me off...
Try TTG. It's made a world of difference for me.
thedudejdog said:
Every post is about this reboot problem, that no one can seem to replicate.
I apologize for being rude but if someone doesn't take any of the advise given,then continues to clutter up the forums with new threads about the same thing it ticks me off...
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The advice he should be taking is to STOP LOADING APPS.
Out of the apps he has listed, I only use Facebook and Handcent SMS... so I'm willing to vouch for those two as not being the culprit. If he hasn't done a wipe and tried running with minimal apps, then the problem is his own fault.
some people just arn't made for android, and apple's buisness model is "you're too dumb to want to do that" actually applies to some people
EDIT: and there is nothing and I mean NOTHING in the world that gives me more of a nerd-boner than someone "rage-quitting" it puts a beautiful smell in the air... the smell of victory
thedudejdog said:
Bronx,
Myself and many other members of this site and over at modaco's site have given advise on this issue. Griff insulted flipz and other devs in the fresh Rom thread, then went to modaco and started talking trash on the devs here.
Every post is about this reboot problem, that no one can seem to replicate.
I apologize for being rude but if someone doesn't take any of the advise given,then continues to clutter up the forums with new threads about the same thing it ticks me off...
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Erm, ex-****ing-scuse me, but can you PLEASE copy the link to the post where I insulted Flipz and started talking trash ?
x99percent said:
The advice he should be taking is to STOP LOADING APPS.
Out of the apps he has listed, I only use Facebook and Handcent SMS... so I'm willing to vouch for those two as not being the culprit. If he hasn't done a wipe and tried running with minimal apps, then the problem is his own fault.
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I haven't got lots of apps loaded.
And I have gone back to stock, wiped, formatted my SD card many times...etc...etc.
All I am saying is that I am experiencing completely random reboots, and I'm desperate to hear if anyone else is.
This dudejdog or whatever he likes to call himself is plain wrong. I have never, and never will trash anyone. I urge him to prove if I have.
Guys, please, I am not into flaming anyone. I paid my subs to Modaco to get his ROM for chrissake.
ALL I am saying is that I am having issues with reboots of sense and phone when running modded ROMS.
I DO NOT HAVE THE SAME ISSUES WITH STOCK.
That's my bottom line here...I do not have issues with stock.
I am going to run stock with all my normal apps for at least a week now to see what happens. I may be back to the boards at a later date because I don't want to give up on this phone.
grifforama said:
Guys, please, I am not into flaming anyone. I paid my subs to Modaco to get his ROM for chrissake.
ALL I am saying is that I am having issues with reboots of sense and phone when running modded ROMS.
I DO NOT HAVE THE SAME ISSUES WITH STOCK.
That's my bottom line here...I do not have issues with stock.
I am going to run stock with all my normal apps for at least a week now to see what happens. I may be back to the boards at a later date because I don't want to give up on this phone.
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You could try stock and maybe figure out the Apps2SD scripting that way you have both.
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Guys, please, I am not into flaming anyone. I paid my subs to Modaco to get his ROM for chrissake.
ALL I am saying is that I am having issues with reboots of sense and phone when running modded ROMS.
I DO NOT HAVE THE SAME ISSUES WITH STOCK.
That's my bottom line here...I do not have issues with stock.
I am going to run stock with all my normal apps for at least a week now to see what happens. I may be back to the boards at a later date because I don't want to give up on this phone.
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Did you try removing any partitions you might have set up (for Apps2SD or swapfiles)...just an idea, simply reformatting your SD card will NOT delete partitions.
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I haven't got lots of apps loaded.
And I have gone back to stock, wiped, formatted my SD card many times...etc...etc.
All I am saying is that I am experiencing completely random reboots, and I'm desperate to hear if anyone else is.
This dudejdog or whatever he likes to call himself is plain wrong. I have never, and never will trash anyone. I urge him to prove if I have.
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Okay...you said you've gone back to stock. When you go back to stock without any other programs loaded, are you still experiencing the issue?
If not, what I suggest is to load each of your programs one at a time, pausing after you load them for at least 12 hours to see if the reboot occurs. I know that's a time consuming process, but it may help to isolate.
If you are having reboot issues with no additional applications loaded and while you are using the stock ROM, I think there maybe something wrong with the hardware and you should take it back to Sprint for replacement.
Hopefully this helps, or at least points you in a direction to go.
grifforama said:
Guys, please, I am not into flaming anyone. I paid my subs to Modaco to get his ROM for chrissake.
ALL I am saying is that I am having issues with reboots of sense and phone when running modded ROMS.
I DO NOT HAVE THE SAME ISSUES WITH STOCK.
That's my bottom line here...I do not have issues with stock.
I am going to run stock with all my normal apps for at least a week now to see what happens. I may be back to the boards at a later date because I don't want to give up on this phone.
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When you return, let us know your results and we'll try to help you. I'm thinking it is an application. I had this issue when I tried to update the Superuser Permission program. When it tried to update from Android Marketplace, it would reboot the phone (I actually saw "System crash is inevitable" in the trace log when it tried to update the program).
If you don't mind me asking, what version of the Stock ROM are you using? I did have issues when I was running a custom ROM (Modaco) running 1.29 and tried to upgrade to a custom ROM (again, Modaco) with 1.56. My issue was force close issues that I could not fix. The solution was to revert back to stock, let the OTA update upgrade the phone, reroot and apply the new Modaco ROM.
I understand this isn't a force close issue, but your problem may be similar in nature.
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Did you try removing any partitions you might have set up (for Apps2SD or swapfiles)...just an idea, simply reformatting your SD card will NOT delete partitions.
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How do I check for partitions ? I thought formatting would get rid of that ?
I remember partitioning a while back, but I have since formatted, and presumed that would have cleared it ?
I'm not back to Stock 1.56.651.2 build CL85027
I took a chance and re-installed pretty much every application I had previously, apart from the obvious rooted apps like droidswap and cachemate.
It's looking fairly stable for now, but I'll report back over the next few days to see how it goes.
I have to say, I've not once slated anyone on this forum. I have total respect for Flipz and I paid Modaco the subs to try his 2.0 beta and then the release. I really would like to use the rooted ROMS, but right now, I just want to see why my phone is doing what it's doing...
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I have no problem speaking for the entire android community when I say...
"its been nice knowing you, good luck with the iPhone and att"
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hahahahahahahahahaha...
awesome..
but ya, no problems here, sorry mate!
(either user error or bad hardware)
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I have no problem speaking for the entire android community when I say...
"its been nice knowing you, good luck with the iPhone and att"
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As jdog says in a few posts below the one I'm quoting... I have done everything I can to try and help him. I have directly worked with him. Along with a ton of other members on this forum. He chose to go to modaco and say that it fixed all his problems and trash fresh. Now here he is saying he's having the same problems.... again.
Edit: With the hard reboots you are getting, I honestly think you need to go exchange your phone.
DARKYY'S ROM FOR SGS VIBRANT​
Darky made his ROM flashable for ALL SGS series.
Don't just flash this like ANY OTHER ROM.
*WARNING IF YOU DON'T READ THIS WHOLE THREAD YOU WILL SOFT/HARD BRICK*
FIRSTLY, download this: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.darkyrom.darkyconfig
It's called the "DARKYROM CONFIGURATOR" its in the market.
In the App, make sure that these are the settings,
The Modem and Kernel, set them both to NO MODEM, and , SKIP KERNEL
Now download the ROM, and put it in your SD Card.
Go back into Darkyrom config. App.
Now click menu, then SELECT ZIP AND FLASH
It will ask for SuperUser allow it.
It will now boot into Recovery and start Flashing it, it will take a while its a 250MB file.
After flashing is done, it will take a longer-than-usual time to reboot.
It will open.
If you see your PREVIOUS ROM WALLPAPER, SETTINGS ETC...
boot into recovery by using power button, and wipe/factory reset.
Now it should be okay..
-NOTE-
you do NOT have to disable voodoo, well, i didn't and i'm having no problems because of that.
*PROBLEMS*
It Sometimes Randomly reboots, but gives a vibrate as a warning?
It randomly vibrates sometimes... but doesn't always reboot.
Some people may experience all the SD Card Wiped or their music/gallery/etc erased
I will upload some pictures in the second post, through the phone it self.
PRESS THE THANKS BUTTON IF YOU LIKED THIS
Who created, "Darkyys rom works!"?
This guy
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Alanrocks15 said:
Who created, "Darkyys rom works!"?
This guy
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your thread has no instructions what-so-ever.
your thread is in q/a section
and all you posted was...
In his thread it says that its compatible with all SGS variants!
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Unlike YOU, i went out, flashed it, experienced some problems, reported them, etc.
, but thank you for that thread anyways without it, i wouldn't have thought about flashing this or talking to darkyy about this either.
xriderx66 said:
your thread has no instructions what-so-ever.
your thread is in q/a section
and all you posted was...
Unlike YOU, i went out, flashed it, experienced some problems, reported them, etc.
, but thank you for that thread anyways without it, i wouldn't have thought about flashing this or talking to darkyy about this either.
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Lol I was kidding
But you sir thank you
Im flashing right now
Got a random reboot
hmm so other than random reboot everyrhing else is working? Like no wifi or battery drain problem? Is it snappy?
bionix 1.2.1 with adw launcher ex
Alanrocks15 said:
Lol I was kidding
But you sir thank you
Im flashing right now
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there's no way around it guys... you're going to get soft reboots when your signal hits about -80dbm
Yeah theres no other problems besides that. I've asked Darkyy to try and help us out, he's probably sleeping right now, so i'll let you guys know.
Keep in mind this is a i9000 ROM
Its a miracle it works universally.
He pmed me he's working on improving it for other variants and keep in mind this is a BETA !
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wait why do we have to wipe?
only email force closes?
Wow Thanks, xriderx66 it did work.......... I probably just play with it tonight, but whoever thought Darky's rom on a Vibrant......
Beast !!!!!
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How does the Vibrant flash a 250mb rom? I thought it was a phone limitation (as it was a problem with the leaked 2.2.1 Vibrant 4g rom?)
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wait why do we have to wipe?
only email force closes?
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Wiping solves some problems ull face. Trust me.
Nice of you to start a topic.
The RESTART/Vibrate bug you are refering to is the SAME bug that Jellette/Heathen was experiencing when he was trying to port an i9000 ROM in Ragnarok. He tracked the issue to be caused by the signal. Yes, the SIGNAL strength of the network causes the reboot. It happens when this signal reaches a certain value. Then phone goes crazy and reboots. That's about it. There is still no known solutions to this.
HOWEVER, Eugene beleives he found the file and settings which are causing it. I have PMed Darkyy and he will be looking into the issue when he's back from vacation (currently hes heading out for a few days). I believe jellette/Heathen may also be working on the issue once he gets his replacement phone.
I hope this helps. And yes. Darkyy' ROM is FAMOUS. I don't need to say more about it haha. When/if it works, it will be AMAZING.
If other devs want to jump on this to try and fix it, it would be very very appreciated. This ROM is just too good to pass up
Not to mention, ALL themes from the I9000 forums WILL work with this after it is working on our Vibrants. Go take a look at the I9000 forum, there are literally TENS upon TENS of amazing themes for it.
For the email FCs, it was enough to wipe its data in TitaniumBackup. however, I had issues receiving calls till I wiped/factory reset my phone. Very satisfied so far.
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After flashing is done, it will take a longer-than-usual time to reboot.
It will open.
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how long is the longer than usual? i tried it last night and i guess it got stuck on a bootloop and kept vibrating too in the bootanimation "darky's rom" for about half and hour
I tried 9.2 extreme edition when it first came out. Super fast, I really liked the presentation, pulled out all the stops with animations and transparent elements sprinkled around. Couldn't get over the nagging bugs though, like the capacitive buttons being mapped all wack, didn't have an effective home button, both home and back functioned like the back button. Also the volume was reversed, and I didn't have sound in certain apps. Also had to flash a US modem, you should mention that in your post, I know it say's choose no modem, but you should mention later to flash one that works.
Used it for a few days like that actually, because it was still super slick and useable...even without the home button lol. But I didn't see it randomly reboot even once.
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how long is the longer than usual? i tried it last night and i guess it got stuck on a bootloop and kept vibrating too in the bootanimation "darky's rom" for about half and hour
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Mine took about 5 minutes.
Lol
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Mine took about 5 minutes.
Lol
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yea i got it to work and it took 5 min too lol
but i had to flash another rom as the reboots drove me crazy it was nice while i got to play with it tho hopefully the devs around here can get the fix for the signal
Flashed this yestursay along with the WP7 THEME-gotta say I am pretty impressed with both
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First off, my tone is from frustration. I've experienced this snafu now on both versions of clockwork recovery. The phone won't completely shut off while charging. If I power the phone down unplugged, then plug it in while off, recovery boots up. If it's plugged in while powering down, recovery boots up after a few seconds.
I suppose I could flash cwm when I need it then flash back to stock recovery. I guess that's what I'm going to have to do until it might get fixed. I thought going to version 3 would fix the bug but apparently not. I've tried to flash a new recovery with rom manager but an error always happens.
I flashed version 2 the way the root guide said and flashed 3 with fastboot. I forgot if thats the way it was done with 2 or what. I am starting to wonder if I'm doing something wrong because I don't see anyone else complaining about this.
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First off, my tone is from frustration. I've experienced this snafu now on both versions of clockwork recovery. The phone won't completely shut off while charging. If I power the phone down unplugged, then plug it in while off, recovery boots up. If it's plugged in while powering down, recovery boots up after a few seconds.
I suppose I could flash cwm when I need it then flash back to stock recovery. I guess that's what I'm going to have to do until it might get fixed. I thought going to version 3 would fix the bug but apparently not. I've tried to flash a new recovery with rom manager but an error always happens.
I flashed version 2 the way the root guide said and flashed 3 with fastboot. I forgot if thats the way it was done with 2 or what. I am starting to wonder if I'm doing something wrong because I don't see anyone else complaining about this.
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Are you looking to bump charge? You've asked this issue a multitude of times and each time its been responded to. (at least in my mind, might be others too) and it is a known issue with CWM recovery and from what I've read Koush isn't really looking at fixing it.
I can't speak for what'll happen in the future but it's not you. That is a known issue with the recoveries we currently have. I believe most of the complaints are in the how to root thread.
^ Shift Faced
I am not talented enough to "fix" the problem but it is discouraging to hear that it isn't deemed important. Maybe I was spoiled with my moment, evo, and epic. It seems as if the shift has the smallest developer base so far. When the evo came out, the devs were all over the place.
Come to think of it, I don't think I've even seen anyone besides myself that has a shift.
You don't think not being able to charge while turned off isn't really a minor problem? And you're using the Moment as a model of progress??
^ Shift Faced
That's what I started on
Yeah, me too. And every ROM was basically themed stock. No CM7, no MIUi, no cool ish like the New Sense. Jeez, they just finally got 2.2 working on it! I'd be using CM7 right now if the headphone jack worked. That ish there excites me.
^ Shift Faced
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I am not talented enough to "fix" the problem but it is discouraging to hear that it isn't deemed important. Maybe I was spoiled with my moment, evo, and epic. It seems as if the shift has the smallest developer base so far. When the evo came out, the devs were all over the place.
Come to think of it, I don't think I've even seen anyone besides myself that has a shift.
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First..the facts show the shift as a far more superior platform to any samsung..probably even the tab..let alone its not that your problem isn't important...it just isn't to anyone but you so there is some importance..with everyone complaining about all these issues and the limited dev support maybe we should figure out whether we want a rom..a kernel..a recovery fixed or a genie in the bottle..patience is the virtue here because everyone keeps flaming about support for this and that..maybe the devs have a life..maybe they died..maybe they think its funny to see people whine and complain like they owe us some kind of development
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google gave everyone a evo that went to the I/O when it comes to the devs the all had a free one from jump i too want cyanogenmod on my shift for the reason i love cyanogenmod BUT its not supported by him oficially
everydaysince87 said:
google gave everyone a evo that went to the I/O when it comes to the devs the all had a free one from jump i too want cyanogenmod on my shift for the reason i love cyanogenmod BUT its not supported by him oficially
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Toastcfh has a CM7 where everything works but sending MMS and the headphone output. And he's been working on it everyday. And Cyanogen responded to someone asking him on Twitter if there'd be CM support for the Shift and he said "Yes, soon". I think it was on 2/17.
I have a feeling my Shift is gonna be very happy soon
^ Shift Faced
Soon isn't official yet tho I may look into a way to donate to toastcfh then
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Toastcfh has a CM7 where everything works but sending MMS and the headphone output. And he's been working on it everyday. And Cyanogen responded to someone asking him on Twitter if there'd be CM support for the Shift and he said "Yes, soon". I think it was on 2/17.
I have a feeling my Shift is gonna be very happy soon
^ Shift Faced
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My clockwork recovery hasn't gaven me any problems
Rob_ec said:
My clockwork recovery hasn't gaven me any problems
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+1 and I use cwm 3
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Rob_ec said:
My clockwork recovery hasn't gaven me any problems
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How did you install yours? Maybe your hardware version of the phone is different than mine? I bought my phone the day after it went on sale. Hardware version 4
This is the tutorial I had to follow to install my recovery..at the bottom of the page someone rewrote the 2nd command to enter and it worked for me..but I had to follow this tutorial & not the one stickied..let me know if this works..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=908267&page=6
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How did you install yours? Maybe your hardware version of the phone is different than mine? I bought my phone the day after it went on sale. Hardware version 4
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They didn't read your post. The boot to recovery from power off while charging is univeral. Its just that very few people care very much.
Jeezimus said:
They didn't read your post. The boot to recovery from power off while charging is univeral. Its just that very few people care very much.
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Lol +1 to not caring much
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You actually turn your phone off?
there is at least now an official release of clockwordmod:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=979778
grandebob said:
You actually turn your phone off?
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I turn it off and on no problem..I haven't tried while its plugged in..why would I even do that unless I want to boot to recovery which is what people complain about so actually its a benefit to me..
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Reset in recovery mode and TWRP have a much....
Mainly in file folders. Its normal?
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fgenari said:
Reset in recovery mode and TWRP have a much....
Mainly in file folders. Its normal?
Enviado de meu Nexus 7 usando o Tapatalk 2
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Really? It's a recovery. You're only going to see it at most a few times a day. Yes, it is obviously going to be laggier than the android OS.
Keion said:
Really? It's a recovery. You're only going to see it at most a few times a day. Yes, it is obviously going to be laggier than the android OS.
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Yes....really. The lagginess on one or a few devices could be a sign of a future problem. A bad flash, a bad download........ Please realize that even a problem you consider small may merely be a symptom of something bigger. Now, back to the original question....
Yes, i get a bit of lagginess. Not in file folders, but when it opens. When booting into recovery, mine will sit at the twrp splash screen for upwards of 30 seconds. All versions i have tried does the same. My other two N7s dont do it. So far, nothing more dramatic has occured, so i am not to worried yet.
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rebel1699 said:
Yes....really. The lagginess on one or a few devices could be a sign of a future problem. A bad flash, a bad download........ Please realize that even a problem you consider small may merely be a symptom of something bigger. Now, back to the original question....
Yes, i get a bit of lagginess. Not in file folders, but when it opens. When booting into recovery, mine will sit at the twrp splash screen for upwards of 30 seconds. All versions i have tried does the same. My other two N7s dont do it. So far, nothing more dramatic has occured, so i am not to worried yet.
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Vey thanks guys!!!
rebel1699 said:
Yes....really. The lagginess on one or a few devices could be a sign of a future problem. A bad flash, a bad download........ Please realize that even a problem you consider small may merely be a symptom of something bigger. Now, back to the original question....
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I don't think that's how it works.
Read a book, eggnog.
Keion said:
I don't think that's how it works.
Read a book, eggnog.
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Thats exacy how it works. Certain behavior can be indicitive of software, or even hardware failures, or either in the future. That is the entire point of TROUBLESHOOTING. Either way, questions like this are the point of the sub forum. It is what it was made for. Hence the name Q&A. And yes, I read books. It was kinda required while attaining my electronics engineering degree. If you dont have a constructive response to an honest question, just move on.
And as Forrest Gump says- "And thats all i got to say about that"
Op- If the problem persists or gets worse, you may want to redownload twrp and reflash to make sure you did not have a bad flash last time. If that does not work, then erase the recovery partition through fastboot to make sure there are no partition errors. Then while still in fastboot, flash twrp again. Its no sure thing, but it will eliminate repairable partition problems. Mine browses the filesystem very quickly and smoothly. Just gotta try different things till you find the root issue.
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rebel1699 said:
Thats exacy how it works. Certain behavior can be indicitive of software, or even hardware failures, or either in the future. That is the entire point of TROUBLESHOOTING. Either way, questions like this are the point of the sub forum. It is what it was made for. Hence the name Q&A. And yes, I read books. It was kinda required while attaining my electronics engineering degree. If you dont have a constructive response to an honest question, just move on.
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No it's not. If you got a "bad" recovery, then it simply won't work. Smoothness of the thing won't be impacted.
Moreover, if it works, and flashes stuff fine, then there is no reason to troubleshoot. This really should be obvious, especially to someone with an "electronics engineering degree".
What, you gonna freak out about a bad flash, everytime your device drops a frame?
Step it up, kouhai.
Keion said:
No it's not. If you got a "bad" recovery, then it simply won't work. Smoothness of the thing won't be impacted.
Moreover, if it works, and flashes stuff fine, then there is no reason to troubleshoot. This really should be obvious, especially to someone with an "electronics engineering degree".
What, you gonna freak out about a bad flash, everytime your device drops a frame?
Step it up, kouhai.
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An error in a filesystem can indeed cause shudder. Perhaps you can explain why his lags in the file browsing, yet mine does not. Maybe why mine spends 30 seconds at twrp splash, and almost all others do not. Considering you never asked any questions before you decreed his problem was nothing invalidates you automatically. How long is the lag? 1 second? 2-3 seconds? Even longer? What version of twrp is he running? Has he tried a reflash? You told him he had no issue with 0 info. It was just plain lazy. And yes, a bad flash or small errors can indeed still allow the recovery to run, but with glitches. Devs resolve alot of problems here by identifying a bad flash. It is one of the most common issues. One bit out of place during a flash can cause it to run, but with strange and undesireable behavior. You really need to educate yourself.
Now, impart your invaluable knowledge to the questions above, and then maybe ill take you seriously. Considering he ignored you, that should tell you something. Btw, does file browsing lag in twrp for you?
But to be fair, I am running a custom multirom version, further customized by the added timur kernel to allow host mode charging while in recovery.
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Hey folks! I have an Acer A500 that I have been working on "with" dibb_nz over the past week. I have no idea what was on it originally, it came to me nearly dead. After a TON of attempts and hard work from dibb, I now have Skrilax's bootloader and recovery installed. I flashed CM10-10 Flex_V6 ROM from Civato onto the device successfully. Here is the problem: no matter how I boot up, it either goes directly into "Power off - Shutting down" then vibrates and blanks out or, after a fresh install, it will say "Android is upgrading", "Optimizing apps", "Starting Apps", then on to the Power Off-shutting down thing.
Does anyone have any clue what may be going on here? I have tried earlier ROMS, all from Civato, but with the same Power OFF result.
Any help would be MUCH appreciated!
Thanks in advance,
Sharkguy
hey sharkguy, I've been combinf forums and threads with no joy at all, the only thing I haven't checked is the rom thread, might pay you to look thru that, just in case its rom related ( I doubt it really, but there maybe other reports such as yours ) If I ever come across something I'll be sure to get back to you, good luck m8
Calling @Moscow Desire---are you out there Mr Moscow?? Ever heard of something like this before, my friend, very strange....Hope you are well MD its been awhile
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hey sharkguy, I've been combinf forums and threads with no joy at all, the only thing I haven't checked is the rom thread, might pay you to look thru that, just in case its rom related ( I doubt it really, but there maybe other reports such as yours ) If I ever come across something I'll be sure to get back to you, good luck m8
Calling @Moscow Desire---are you out there Mr Moscow?? Ever heard of something like this before, my friend, very strange....Hope you are well MD its been awhile
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Hey Dibb! Offhand, I think it may be the old power part that used to be flashed with stock ROMs. Forget what its actually called. Typically we removed this from the install as its generally not needed. That's a guess, but am at work for the night so can't check my stuff. Could explain the shutdown. But if it shuts down when updating the apps, then its probably bad memory partition.
But I'll lean more towards the power part. Will have to check a stock ICS ROM. Might need to make a separate flash install just for it. It it would boot to the display and it had horrible display and battery issues then that would be it.
Well, that sounds complicated. I should have the new battery by the weekend so let me at least try that before anyone gets all technical. Unfortunately I dont know anyone with another a500 to test batteries...
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Hey Dibb! Offhand, I think it may be the old power part that used to be flashed with stock ROMs. Forget what its actually called. Typically we removed this from the install as its generally not needed. That's a guess, but am at work for the night so can't check my stuff. Could explain the shutdown. But if it shuts down when updating the apps, then its probably bad memory partition.
But I'll lean more towards the power part. Will have to check a stock ICS ROM. Might need to make a separate flash install just for it. It it would boot to the display and it had horrible display and battery issues then that would be it.
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Hey MD good to see u my friend
oh, the eec thing? Rings a bell...
The bad memory partition, do you mean the memory chip itself or just the partition.
I've just never heard of the faulty chip causing a spontaneous shut down, sure has me beat....and I Hate that, lol
But thanks for the response MD, if you can offer any solution from your archives of knowledge and wisdom, I know someone who'd be forever grateful
Have a great day all!!
rgds Donna
Yeah Dib, the eec thing. Just couldn't remember. Usually we just removed that command from the install script as usually once it was flashed at the factory, rarely did you ever have to flash it again. I will have to look and see in the next couple of days. Worth a shot though. Might be able to put it in a CWM install.
Oh, forgot to add @sharkguy
As with a damaged partition, if the memory got hosed in that particular partition, whichever, there's not a whole lot that can be done. Could try running babsector, but not sure if it would fix it or not. There's been success running it before, but only about 30% as I can tell. Devblks can get physically damaged. Usually the partitions are large enough to mark the bad spots as bad, and still be able to install things. That's what babsector did I think as near as I can tell.
A faulty chip "could" cause a shutdown, especially if it couldn't create the dalvak which is kind of the next step when "starting applications" If I guess right, although I would think it would bootloop rather than shut down. As you say, I've never heard of a power off before, unless the eec was bad and it thinks the battery is dead.
I'm just curious if the OP has done a full format on internal memory via CWM? Before installing. Not the usual wipes, but going into advanced, and triggering the full format. I used it after running that CM stuff awhile back, as it messed up everything (lots of testing). Needed a clean sweep of the internal memory.
As you see, I am still around Just with being a senior mod, not a lot of time for messing with things.
I'm still leaning towards eec pwr. (I'm using beer logic at this point)
Bear with me on this. Let's say the eec got hosed somehow. It happens on occasion. And you install several custom roms, which of course don't have eec pwr in the install script as we removed it. Here's what I know.
1) Battery won't charge and is always going to shut down
2) No response on the touch screen if indeed the OS starts.
3. Tab shuts down after OS start.
So you see why I am leaning towards this.
MD
EDIT: The reason why we removed eec from the custom roms to begin with, primarily as it really wasn't needed, but it "could" cause an issue if the flash went bad. But considering the OP has UID and NVFlash, that isn't an issue now.
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Hey MD good to see u my friend
oh, the eec thing? Rings a bell...
The bad memory partition, do you mean the memory chip itself or just the partition.
I've just never heard of the faulty chip causing a spontaneous shut down, sure has me beat....and I Hate that, lol
But thanks for the response MD, if you can offer any solution from your archives of knowledge and wisdom, I know someone who'd be forever grateful
Have a great day all!!
rgds Donna
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Hey MD, thanks for thr insight on my issue. I worked closely with Dibb_nz for close to a week. I am not entirely sure if I did the wipe you mentioned, but believe me, if I could find a way to format, erase, wipe or clear memory I did. Everything you described as what you knew is correct with one exception: if it is relevant the touch screen works in recovery mode.
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Hey MD, thanks for thr insight on my issue. I worked closely with Dibb_nz for close to a week. I am not entirely sure if I did the wipe you mentioned, but believe me, if I could find a way to format, erase, wipe or clear memory I did. Everything you described as what you knew is correct with one exception: if it is relevant the touch screen works in recovery mode.
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Always works in recovery, as it is independent of the OS...
Righto. I figured it didnt matter in this case. But yes, the rest of the facts are as you understand them.
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Hey MD, thanks for thr insight on my issue. I worked closely with Dibb_nz for close to a week. I am not entirely sure if I did the wipe you mentioned, but believe me, if I could find a way to format, erase, wipe or clear memory I did. Everything you described as what you knew is correct with one exception: if it is relevant the touch screen works in recovery mode.
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The FULL wipes as stated in the guide m8 or via fastboot erase.
@Moscow Desire _bab sector was run and successfully, boot loader and recovery installed with no errors.
As far as the eec thing I do have a copy of that in my stash if that's any help, but no idea how to apply it????
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Well at this point I am open to anything. I just passed up on a steal of a deal on a Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 7" so im itching to know I made the right choice. I am at your mercy. Doesnt look like I will have that battery until saturday at the earliest, but so far all of the work I have done on it has been with AC power and has been successful.
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Well at this point I am open to anything. I just passed up on a steal of a deal on a Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 7" so im itching to know I made the right choice. I am at your mercy. Doesnt look like I will have that battery until saturday at the earliest, but so far all of the work I have done on it has been with AC power and has been successful.
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Well m8 I dunno if u made the right choice there, I guess only time will tell...there is this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617196. I cannot recommend it but then my tab has never been in that state...and I'm not sure I could bring myself to put it in the oven lol...u nut wanna take a look at it any way
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Oh I've heard of ppl doing such things, but I'm luckily far mor fortunate than that. I am an electronics technician and have access to far for humane methods than an oven! Maybe I will see if I can still get the deal, then hack the a500 to pieces after geting the new battery in the mail. Lol
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Oh I've heard of ppl doing such things, but I'm luckily far mor fortunate than that. I am an electronics technician and have access to far for humane methods than an oven! Maybe I will see if I can still get the deal, then hack the a500 to pieces after geting the new battery in the mail. Lol
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Well, you'll be in your element then,lol...Yeh, your issue is rather unique...with babsector not returning any error its out of my area of expertise!!! But I do know that Acers build quality isn't the best....from power buttons falling out to the memory chip failure and their dodgy soldering techniques, i'm leaning towards a hardware fault 'somewhere'....
But then, it does seem strange the tab powers off during "updating apps" that points to software doesn't it???? Have look in the guide for fastboot commands (if you still have the unlocked bootloader on there) I'd erase all partitions, /system, /data, /cache etc....then run babsectot again to repartition -flash a rom and see what happens...or use tdv4 to do the same, but no rom flash needed for that as it comes with HC 3.2.1 rooted and cwm.
Anyways m8 keep us updated - and fingers crossed you end up with a positive resolution
rgds Donna
One of the last things I think I did was tdv4 without a rom flash. It still came up with the same issue. I did notice that when I took the battery out to charge on the equipment at work (closely monitored of course) to see if there was an issue with the charging circuit, that I could still do all of the same things as before with just the AC plugged in. No battery. This is why I bought a battery to try that out. The Galaxy 3 guy realized what a steal he was offering me and bumped up his price so it looks like I'm stuck woth the A500.
Thanks for the crossed fingers!!
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Well new battery us in and seems to charge just fine. In fact the tablet would not even attempt to power on before without AC so that is a plus. However, the same thing happens still. Boots up, and as soon as it enters the OS it gies straight to powering down.
What was the EEC thing you guys were discussing? Would it potentially help here?
Thanks again!
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Used all of the elements at my disposal at work to reflow the board without any change in the status of the tablet. Any ideas based on that EEC thing you guys discussed above?
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Well new battery us in and seems to charge just fine. In fact the tablet would not even attempt to power on before without AC so that is a plus. However, the same thing happens still. Boots up, and as soon as it enters the OS it gies straight to powering down.
What was the EEC thing you guys were discussing? Would it potentially help here?
Thanks again!
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Used all of the elements at my disposal at work to reflow the board without any change in the status of the tablet. Any ideas based on that EEC thing you guys discussed above?
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Soz m8 been full on at work to even check emails let alone reply...phew!!!!
As MD pointed out above, the EEC file thing, devs have dealt with that particular issue, but b/c yours is a relatively unique issue I guess it can't be ruled out...
Have you managed to take a look at fastboot and using the erase command to delete EVERYTHING - at least u can be sure its as clean as can be, then using babsector with an appropriate rom and see what happens there.
In that "tab flu" thread there are links to another thread (somewhere) re: eec thing - If you find it can link it here in this thread and I'll track down the file -
Oh, just to be clear - when it boots into to the OS and powers off - is it completely shutting down i.e. power led is off or is it actually booting to apx mode, black screen power lite on...whats the chances of a vid so we can see exactly what it does???
rgds dibb
Sure I can video it for ya, but how should I link it? Can I link to YouTube on these forums?
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Sure I can video it for ya, but how should I link it? Can I link to YouTube on these forums?
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Ok, so new development, so to speak. As you can see from the crappy video I shot just now, I can boot the tablet into the start of the OS, but it hangs at Powering Down. The new part is that I had to manually shut it off, it did not do that itself this time. I showed you the power light (orange) and when I press it again, it does power on, but is still hung up on the same screen. I don't know if that helps any, but now you can see it. By the way, sorry it is upside down, it was the only way to show you the power button after it booted.
http://youtu.be/pG_efbq6DZg