Starting to lose patience with my Hero - Hero CDMA General

So, here is my story.
I have tried Fresh 1.1, and I found that I was getting may too many reboots both on the phone and on Sense for my liking.
So I switched to Modaco 2, and have been very happy for a while...
I just had yet another reboot.
I was listening to some music, when I had a notification for an email. Looked at the email, tried to lock my phone, then tried to unlock, and that's when the music went off, and my phone rebooted itself....
I'm really getting tired of this. I have not loaded any new apps in the past 2 days. I have minimal apps anyway (Facebook, Weatherbug, Handcent, NPR News, Touchdown, Power Manager and Droidswap, that is it)
does anyone have any history of problems with Droidswap ?
I'm really getting frustrated. I hate when this happens, and I'm giving realy consideration into curtailing my brief incursion onto Android and returning back to the iphone....which is a real shame, as I f**king hate ATT

I would recommend taking your phone back to the store. I have not have had one unplanned reboot the entire time I've had my Hero (bought on release date Oct 9). I'm running Fresh 1.1 now, and had 1.0 previously. There is something seriously wrong with your phone.

I have no problem speaking for the entire android community when I say...
"its been nice knowing you, good luck with the iPhone and att"

Honestly...I have never had a full reboot on its own.
I have seen Sense close out and have to reload usually after I play an intensive game, racing or something like that with alot of graphics. I assume it just runs out of ram and does its thing to get resources back.

That's a rare occasion there's not much people that it has happened to from what I seen. Did u try to wipe your phone and cache & whatnot, do some of that and see what happens
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Jdog stop trolling because u definitively don't speak for the Android community...

bronxknight28 said:
Jdog stop trolling because u definitively don't speak for the Android community...
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I think I can speak for the whole Android community when I say. "Please don't go" - The more of us we have the better. Given, I completely understand frustration and disappointment.

bronxknight28 said:
That's a rare occasion there's not much people that it has happened to from what I seen. Did u try to wipe your phone and cache & whatnot, do some of that and see what happens
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Jdog stop trolling because u definitively don't speak for the Android community...
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Bronx,
Myself and many other members of this site and over at modaco's site have given advise on this issue. Griff insulted flipz and other devs in the fresh Rom thread, then went to modaco and started talking trash on the devs here.
Every post is about this reboot problem, that no one can seem to replicate.
I apologize for being rude but if someone doesn't take any of the advise given,then continues to clutter up the forums with new threads about the same thing it ticks me off...

Try TTG. It's made a world of difference for me.

thedudejdog said:
Every post is about this reboot problem, that no one can seem to replicate.
I apologize for being rude but if someone doesn't take any of the advise given,then continues to clutter up the forums with new threads about the same thing it ticks me off...
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The advice he should be taking is to STOP LOADING APPS.
Out of the apps he has listed, I only use Facebook and Handcent SMS... so I'm willing to vouch for those two as not being the culprit. If he hasn't done a wipe and tried running with minimal apps, then the problem is his own fault.

some people just arn't made for android, and apple's buisness model is "you're too dumb to want to do that" actually applies to some people
EDIT: and there is nothing and I mean NOTHING in the world that gives me more of a nerd-boner than someone "rage-quitting" it puts a beautiful smell in the air... the smell of victory

thedudejdog said:
Bronx,
Myself and many other members of this site and over at modaco's site have given advise on this issue. Griff insulted flipz and other devs in the fresh Rom thread, then went to modaco and started talking trash on the devs here.
Every post is about this reboot problem, that no one can seem to replicate.
I apologize for being rude but if someone doesn't take any of the advise given,then continues to clutter up the forums with new threads about the same thing it ticks me off...
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Erm, ex-****ing-scuse me, but can you PLEASE copy the link to the post where I insulted Flipz and started talking trash ?

x99percent said:
The advice he should be taking is to STOP LOADING APPS.
Out of the apps he has listed, I only use Facebook and Handcent SMS... so I'm willing to vouch for those two as not being the culprit. If he hasn't done a wipe and tried running with minimal apps, then the problem is his own fault.
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I haven't got lots of apps loaded.
And I have gone back to stock, wiped, formatted my SD card many times...etc...etc.
All I am saying is that I am experiencing completely random reboots, and I'm desperate to hear if anyone else is.
This dudejdog or whatever he likes to call himself is plain wrong. I have never, and never will trash anyone. I urge him to prove if I have.

Guys, please, I am not into flaming anyone. I paid my subs to Modaco to get his ROM for chrissake.
ALL I am saying is that I am having issues with reboots of sense and phone when running modded ROMS.
I DO NOT HAVE THE SAME ISSUES WITH STOCK.
That's my bottom line here...I do not have issues with stock.
I am going to run stock with all my normal apps for at least a week now to see what happens. I may be back to the boards at a later date because I don't want to give up on this phone.

grifforama said:
Guys, please, I am not into flaming anyone. I paid my subs to Modaco to get his ROM for chrissake.
ALL I am saying is that I am having issues with reboots of sense and phone when running modded ROMS.
I DO NOT HAVE THE SAME ISSUES WITH STOCK.
That's my bottom line here...I do not have issues with stock.
I am going to run stock with all my normal apps for at least a week now to see what happens. I may be back to the boards at a later date because I don't want to give up on this phone.
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You could try stock and maybe figure out the Apps2SD scripting that way you have both.

grifforama said:
Guys, please, I am not into flaming anyone. I paid my subs to Modaco to get his ROM for chrissake.
ALL I am saying is that I am having issues with reboots of sense and phone when running modded ROMS.
I DO NOT HAVE THE SAME ISSUES WITH STOCK.
That's my bottom line here...I do not have issues with stock.
I am going to run stock with all my normal apps for at least a week now to see what happens. I may be back to the boards at a later date because I don't want to give up on this phone.
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Did you try removing any partitions you might have set up (for Apps2SD or swapfiles)...just an idea, simply reformatting your SD card will NOT delete partitions.

grifforama said:
I haven't got lots of apps loaded.
And I have gone back to stock, wiped, formatted my SD card many times...etc...etc.
All I am saying is that I am experiencing completely random reboots, and I'm desperate to hear if anyone else is.
This dudejdog or whatever he likes to call himself is plain wrong. I have never, and never will trash anyone. I urge him to prove if I have.
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Okay...you said you've gone back to stock. When you go back to stock without any other programs loaded, are you still experiencing the issue?
If not, what I suggest is to load each of your programs one at a time, pausing after you load them for at least 12 hours to see if the reboot occurs. I know that's a time consuming process, but it may help to isolate.
If you are having reboot issues with no additional applications loaded and while you are using the stock ROM, I think there maybe something wrong with the hardware and you should take it back to Sprint for replacement.
Hopefully this helps, or at least points you in a direction to go.

grifforama said:
Guys, please, I am not into flaming anyone. I paid my subs to Modaco to get his ROM for chrissake.
ALL I am saying is that I am having issues with reboots of sense and phone when running modded ROMS.
I DO NOT HAVE THE SAME ISSUES WITH STOCK.
That's my bottom line here...I do not have issues with stock.
I am going to run stock with all my normal apps for at least a week now to see what happens. I may be back to the boards at a later date because I don't want to give up on this phone.
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When you return, let us know your results and we'll try to help you. I'm thinking it is an application. I had this issue when I tried to update the Superuser Permission program. When it tried to update from Android Marketplace, it would reboot the phone (I actually saw "System crash is inevitable" in the trace log when it tried to update the program).
If you don't mind me asking, what version of the Stock ROM are you using? I did have issues when I was running a custom ROM (Modaco) running 1.29 and tried to upgrade to a custom ROM (again, Modaco) with 1.56. My issue was force close issues that I could not fix. The solution was to revert back to stock, let the OTA update upgrade the phone, reroot and apply the new Modaco ROM.
I understand this isn't a force close issue, but your problem may be similar in nature.

ljmeli said:
Did you try removing any partitions you might have set up (for Apps2SD or swapfiles)...just an idea, simply reformatting your SD card will NOT delete partitions.
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How do I check for partitions ? I thought formatting would get rid of that ?
I remember partitioning a while back, but I have since formatted, and presumed that would have cleared it ?
I'm not back to Stock 1.56.651.2 build CL85027
I took a chance and re-installed pretty much every application I had previously, apart from the obvious rooted apps like droidswap and cachemate.
It's looking fairly stable for now, but I'll report back over the next few days to see how it goes.
I have to say, I've not once slated anyone on this forum. I have total respect for Flipz and I paid Modaco the subs to try his 2.0 beta and then the release. I really would like to use the rooted ROMS, but right now, I just want to see why my phone is doing what it's doing...

thedudejdog said:
I have no problem speaking for the entire android community when I say...
"its been nice knowing you, good luck with the iPhone and att"
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hahahahahahahahahaha...
awesome..
but ya, no problems here, sorry mate!
(either user error or bad hardware)

thedudejdog said:
I have no problem speaking for the entire android community when I say...
"its been nice knowing you, good luck with the iPhone and att"
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As jdog says in a few posts below the one I'm quoting... I have done everything I can to try and help him. I have directly worked with him. Along with a ton of other members on this forum. He chose to go to modaco and say that it fixed all his problems and trash fresh. Now here he is saying he's having the same problems.... again.
Edit: With the hard reboots you are getting, I honestly think you need to go exchange your phone.

Related

What ROM do you like the best? [Poll]

What ROM do you like the best? Rate it now in the above Poll.
My apologies if I left anyone's ROM out, post it here if I overlooked any...
PeAcE!
first, I don't even see a poll. And second, well...
I was in the process of drafting it, took me 30sec though... ;-)
no syndicate rom option?
Where's Baked Snack?
I guess I cannot edit the Poll OR delete the post ....
Sorry everyone! Perhaps a moderate/admin can delete this Post/Poll so I can create one with all the ROM's appropriately.
I think it would be EXTREMELY helpful to have an active indefinite Poll for users to grade all these ROM's, it would help in the selection process...
:-(
Heroic is the tits, but Syndicate is rocking hard on my Epic right now.
ccline84 said:
Heroic is the tits, but Syndicate is rocking hard on my Epic right now.
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Yeah we need to get Syndicate and Baked Snack up there.
i prefer my own rom, with one of the beastly kernels out there, currently hero special kernel
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no syndicate rom option?
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Yeah, no love for ACS?
Only thing holding me back from Syndicate right now is that every other post in the thread is someone having some issue with the rom. Been monitoring it nonstop, because they seem like they are bringing the premier rom to XDA for the Epic, but not gonna switch from EE until some issues are smoothed out.
muyoso said:
Only thing holding me back from Syndicate right now is that every other post in the thread is someone having some issue with the rom. Been monitoring it nonstop, because they seem like they are bringing the premier rom to XDA for the Epic, but not gonna switch from EE until some issues are smoothed out.
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All reproducible bugs are fixed in 1.0.1a, except the harmless Airplane Mode FC and the Service Mode FC (which is only seen if you so desire to go there!) - both of which are not present in Fully Loaded, as it includes TouchWiz.
If you read through the thread, almost all of the issues people have had were due to Clockwork, Titanium Backup, or an SD card that needs formatting. Everything else, like I said above, is fixed - and if you do have any issues (which I assure you, we do not anticipate), just post, and we'll help right away.
I think you'll also find that there are plenty of people needing help with issues in other ROM threads.
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All reproducible bugs are fixed in 1.0.1a, except the harmless Airplane Mode FC and the Service Mode FC (which is only seen if you so desire to go there!) - both of which are not present in Fully Loaded, as it includes TouchWiz.
If you read through the thread, almost all of the issues people have had were due to Clockwork, Titanium Backup, or an SD card that needs formatting. Everything else, like I said above, is fixed - and if you do have any issues (which I assure you, we do not anticipate), just post, and we'll help right away.
I think you'll also find that there are plenty of people needing help with issues in other ROM threads.
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Did that vibrate issue get resolved? May have to flash me a new rom tomorrow.
muyoso said:
Did that vibrate issue get resolved? May have to flash me a new rom tomorrow.
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That's in the kernel - DevinXtreme is looking at it - and only at 1.6ghz (and even then, only for some people!). See the Xtreme Kernel thread for more. The kernel defaults to 1ghz, and the ROM does not change that. 1.2ghz is known stable (well, so is 1.6 - minus the odd vibration for some) - and Devin is in the process of adding even more steps (1.3/1.4ghz for example if I recall correctly).
muyoso said:
Did that vibrate issue get resolved? May have to flash me a new rom tomorrow.
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It's worth installing, I personally have my phone clocked at 1.6 when it's plugged in and it's never once not woken up, or vibrated strangely. Then again, when I flashed I formatted my sd, data, dalvik, you name it.
Baked Snack is the only one that I've tried since its been very stable for the most part. Launcher Pro quits on me every now and then but I believe that its a problem with the app itself.

"The new guy 6"... any one use it?

Hello i noticed the thread for "the new guy" rom is gone. I have also noticed that the new guy 6 is out, but i cant find any information on it. Is there something wrong with this rom build? i am currently running new guy 5, which is one of the only roms ive been able to get usb tether working on.
i also notice the creater andrizoid has been disabled on the forums. i hope someone could shed some light on this for me.
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Hello i noticed the thread for "the new guy" rom is gone. I have also noticed that the new guy 6 is out, but i cant find any information on it. Is there something wrong with this rom build? i am currently running new guy 5, which is one of the only roms ive been able to get usb tether working on.
i also notice the creater andrizoid has been disabled on the forums. i hope someone could shed some light on this for me.
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Think there was Warez in his release.
Ya lame right? Think it was Swype(that ****ty worthless keyboard)
Interesting. Ive never even looked that that keyboard.
so otherwise the rom is safe to use?
any one know where a change log could be found?
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I think this is what you call irony
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haha, yea that Jimmy guy was trolling Blackdroid's UD 2.0 thread hardcore the other day.
He was acting like a little ***** and doesn't even know what BD did and nothing affected him. He is just another dumb noob Oh well I am so sad I am on his ignore list
now that my thread is completely derailed. let me try to bring it back on track.
is this rom otherwise save to use? is there a place where i can find a change log? is there a forum?
i dont necessarily need this rom, but i need usb tether, and no other roms i have tried work. so i feel stuck to it right now. maybe i just wont upgrade it.
Yes, the rom is completely safe to use.
the creator of the rom was using another roms framework without permission, so this is why he was shut down. i was running newguy 6 for a few days and it ran great, but have since switched to warm 2.2, the rom that newguy is based off of.
use this rom instead - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809985
It wasn't just because of swype, some people need to read up a bit more before posting incorrect information. He was using framework, from a different rom, and passing it off as his own, not giving credit, etc...
The rom i posted above is much better, you will be happy with that one.
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Yes, the rom is completely safe to use.
the creator of the rom was using another roms framework without permission, so this is why he was shut down. i was running newguy 6 for a few days and it ran great, but have since switched to warm 2.2, the rom that newguy is based off of.
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he wasn't using warm's framework, he was using the whole rom as his. but anyway, if you want to use the real deal, flash warm two point two rls3. this rom kills all past warm rls and "the lame guy"......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809985
my bad goos3y, you must of posted as i was posting....
im glad i asked, i will check out this rom. is it available on rom manager? or do i have to do it manually?
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im glad i asked, i will check out this rom. is it available on rom manager? or do i have to do it manually?
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manually is always best, rom manager has been sucking it for a while know. make sure you completly wipe everything. people have been reporting BS bugs because they don't wipe....
im lazy i like rom manager... all well. ok ill play with this rom over the weekend.
new guy
Stoney 666 said:
manually is always best, rom manager has been sucking it for a while know. make sure you completly wipe everything. people have been reporting BS bugs because they don't wipe....
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I can definitely vouch for Myn's Warm rom. And to be specific, Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo RLS 3 rom is not available in rom manager.
"The New Guy" rom developer broke the rules on many different fronts and has since been banned by the senior members who built this community.
It would be greatly beneficial for you to research and learn how to use the recovery mode of your phone to manually install roms. You're already rooted, so if you haven't already, spend the 6 bucks for Titanium backup pro and Root Explorer, they are worthy investments.
Always read the rom developers full original post (OP) before installing roms.
Most will tell you that you need to wipe 3 things prior to installing a new rom:
1)Wipe data/Factory reset
2)Wipe cache
3)Wipe the Dalvik cache
Some devs will tell you that you do not need to do all steps if you are upgrading the same rom, but again, read the OP to be sure.
I hope this helps. Good luck my friend.
Im pretty familiar with the process. but im also lazy. and my laziness usually wins. thanks for the help, ill check out this rom.
so i have checked out the suggested rom. seems to work well, but im back to having usb tether not work. ive tried quite a few roms, and the only one that works is the newguy 5
i really dont understand how no one else is having this issue. what could be different between these roms?
when i plug my phone into usb, and select mobile broadband connect, i get something called "android phone" as an unknown device. the modem hardware does not show up at all. any suggestions?
Flash 10.1 will not install on NewGuy 6
not to go crazy off track again, but i believe he said that his rom was based off myns. there were obviously a lot of changes made to it-your example about usb tethering working on it and not on myns. its like building a rom based off the htc release and saying that you didnt actually do anything with it, all roms start somewhere. the actual reason it got deleted though was beacuse of swype, using other roms as a base is in no way against the rules. rebranding a rom-which isnt what he did-is.
just my two cents. stoney go ahead and freak out on me, we all know how much of a myn follower you are, which is fine. but stop trash talking our devs, things like that drive people away from our community. ive seen quite a few threads pop up about the bullying and unnecessary asshole behavior thats been going on lately. if you dont like the rom, dont use it. nobody is asking you to, but that doesnt give you a reason to trash talk it.
i personally am building a rom based off nils business sense-its the closest i could find to the stock latest htc release-im on ubuntu and cant use the ruu-but ill be incorporating a lot of the theme and overall feel of tng, plus a few of the features he added. if your looking for something that feels similar to tng, keep yur eyes on the boards for the next few weeks,
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Flash 10.1 will not install on NewGuy 6
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oh and i think thats because he already baked in the modded flash for hulu, but im not positive.
I think The New Guy 6 is Great ... just was wondering why "Flash 10.1 won't install and "Hulu app" also will not work....
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I think The New Guy 6 is Great ... just was wondering why "Flash 10.1 won't install and "Hulu app" also will not work....
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i think he used the wrong flash. i had to through a different one one before i got it to work. i think he mentioned it just before the thread was removed.
I'm trying to install the "Flash 10.1" from the Market, but to no avail

1st post - had to start somewhere...

1st post, 1st android - LOVE this forum!!
So, I managed to figure out how to root several weeks ago, mainly so I could wifi tether. Been waiting (and waiting... and waiting...) on Sprint to put Froyo out. Toyed with the idea of doing it myself, based on several threads in the xda forums, but just couldn't quite pull the trigger.
Finally took the plunge last week & also flashed my first custom ROM, Syndicate Frozen. Had a couple of 'Oh $hit' moments, but made it through and very glad I did. The speed increase is amazing!
Getting ready to try midNIGHT next... just for kicks.
Just had to say I couldn't have done it without all the awesome help from this forum. Just hope I'm able to contribute, someday...
Cheers!
I remember that from when I got my first Android, the HTC Hero. Such good times.
I am running Syndicate, too. It's my favorite ROM. MidNIGHT is a second, the only reasons I don't use it is because he uses the beta swype in his ROM (meaning you have to renew it every so often), and his rom doesn't support 1x/3G icons like syndicate's does. Though, I must say, MidNIGHT is VERY, VERY stable and will probably not force close ANYTHING you run on it. In other words, MidNIGHT is what stock should've been.
Glad you took the plunge and did it. Its definitely worth it isn't it. On on the latest bonsai rom and its awesome. The.main difference with this rom is you don't have to wipe all your data before you flash.the rom. It backs up all your data and restores it when you flash the rom so you don't have.to start from scratch
Sent From My Evo Killer!
whitfield77 said:
1st post, 1st android - LOVE this forum!!
So, I managed to figure out how to root several weeks ago, mainly so I could wifi tether. Been waiting (and waiting... and waiting...) on Sprint to put Froyo out. Toyed with the idea of doing it myself, based on several threads in the xda forums, but just couldn't quite pull the trigger.
Finally took the plunge last week & also flashed my first custom ROM, Syndicate Frozen. Had a couple of 'Oh $hit' moments, but made it through and very glad I did. The speed increase is amazing!
Getting ready to try midNIGHT next... just for kicks.
Just had to say I couldn't have done it without all the awesome help from this forum. Just hope I'm able to contribute, someday...
Cheers!
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Ptfmedic did an awesome job in creating the most flexible and stable (with the BYOR edition) Rom I have ever seen to date, even spawning from the old Windows Mobile 6.1 days... ahhh...
Not to mention the dude has a heart of gold. If you do decide to flash one of his roms, be sure to read some of his blogs and if you feel it stir inside you, help out his cause.
Welcome. This forum is very arousing.
Tried to flash midNight BYOR, after using Odin to get back to a stock with root & CWM, but for some reason it kept failing. Something about couldn't open the zip. Going to try to download the Standard version; maybe the BYOR was corrupted during download.
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Ptfmedic did an awesome job in creating the most flexible and stable (with the BYOR edition) Rom I have ever seen to date, even spawning from the old Windows Mobile 6.1 days... ahhh...
Not to mention the dude has a heart of gold. If you do decide to flash one of his roms, be sure to read some of his blogs and if you feel it stir inside you, help out his cause.
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Yeah, I did take the time to read through a few of his blogs. The Broken Heart one was gripping - will definitely make me think twice the next time I'm approached. The man definitely has a heart of gold & the patience of a saint. And he still takes the time to make great Rom's from what I hear. I should know here in the next hour or so - multiupload is slower than...
Guess I'm supposed to wait 5 minutes between posts...
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Tried to flash midNight BYOR, after using Odin to get back to a stock with root & CWM, but for some reason it kept failing. Something about couldn't open the zip. Going to try to download the Standard version; maybe the BYOR was corrupted during download.
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Not to sound offensive or mean, but did you follow his instructions exactly as written on his Android Development page? When it comes to flashing roms (at least with the Epic) one minor mistake can be the difference between a perfect flash and a faulty one. I learned that the hard way -.-
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Oh and I forgot to mention, although it hasn't happened to me yet, i hear that bad flashes can occur; I.E., something went wrong in that instance alone, not necessarily the entire thing is debunk, but rather just that one time. Try it again and you might have better luck.
Cheers
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I remember that from when I got my first Android, the HTC Hero. Such good times.
I am running Syndicate, too. It's my favorite ROM. MidNIGHT is a second, the only reasons I don't use it is because he uses the beta swype in his ROM (meaning you have to renew it every so often), and his rom doesn't support 1x/3G icons like syndicate's does. Though, I must say, MidNIGHT is VERY, VERY stable and will probably not force close ANYTHING you run on it. In other words, MidNIGHT is what stock should've been.
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Not sure why he did that either, but he's recently started using the stock swype we all paid for.
I have to second what you said. I came from a moment and the epic is a huge step up. I'm also running the syndicate rom as well and it sure is a speed demon. I am starting to get the hang of flashing now, though I probably go overboard when I do it. I usually end up flashing back to stock and then install cwm, then I go and flash the rom. This forum is outstanding too. The people here are (for the most part) intelligent and willing to help.
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bighuta said:
Not to sound offensive or mean, but did you follow his instructions exactly as written on his Android Development page? When it comes to flashing roms (at least with the Epic) one minor mistake can be the difference between a perfect flash and a faulty one. I learned that the hard way -.-
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Oh and I forgot to mention, although it hasn't happened to me yet, i hear that bad flashes can occur; I.E., something went wrong in that instance alone, not necessarily the entire thing is debunk, but rather just that one time. Try it again and you might have better luck.
Cheers
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No offense taken at all. I'm definitely a noob, so I'd rather have someone point out the obvious than assume I knew what I was doing.
Tried it a couple ways. 1st time, I was already rooted with CW3.0.0.6 with flashed syndicate. Wiped davlic, cache, and user 3 times. Tried to install the BYOR version & got the error. 2nd time, I used Odin to get back to EB13 rooted with CW3, no other custom rom. Then tried install BYOR version again (after wiping 3x) and got same error.
Decided to Odin back again, EB13, root, CW3; wipe 3x & then installed the midNIGHT Standard & it worked like a charm. I've had bad file downloads from multiupload before, so I'm gonna pin the blame there for now.
Been exploring midNight this afternoon & like it so far. Figured I should give it a few days before I decide which to go with.

[Q] Random Restarts

Hey everyone,
I just put the cyanogenmod 7.0.2.1 on my HTC EVO 4G about a month ago. At first it was working fine, now it will just randomly restart not while I'm ever using it, but when it is sitting idle it will just restart at odd times. Has anyone else had this issue?
Everything else with the ROM is working awesome. Please Help.
No issues here, why don't you come up to date and flash the stable 7.0.3.1. Are you running any custom kernels by chance?
Here's the link to 7.0.3.1 just flash over your current rom and wipe dalvik-cache.
http://mirror.teamdouche.net/get/update-cm-7.0.3.1-Supersonic-signed.zip
Oh thanks, been really busy with work, and hadn't had time to check for any updates. I appreciate the help very much. DL'ing the new ROM now.
Upgrade to the newer version. Maybe it'll help? Definitely clear cache & dalvik when you update.
Evo 4G / CM 7.0.3.1 - Tiamat 4.0.2 SBC / XDA Premium
I was running CM7 and went to a different Rom because of the reboots and been fine since. Tried all the usual things but phone would still freeze and reboot. Last one I was on was nightly 65. There are also a few threads around about the ROM bricking phones that it makes crash. As usual, nandroid if things don't work out.
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misterzeno said:
I was running CM7 and went to a different Rom because of the reboots and been fine since. Tried all the usual things but phone would still freeze and reboot. Last one I was on was nightly 65. There are also a few threads around about the ROM bricking phones that it makes crash. As usual, nandroid if things don't work out.
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What ROM did you go to?
misterzeno said:
I was running CM7 and went to a different Rom because of the reboots and been fine since. Tried all the usual things but phone would still freeze and reboot. Last one I was on was nightly 65. There are also a few threads around about the ROM bricking phones that it makes crash. As usual, nandroid if things don't work out.
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That's non sense, bricking phones say whaaaaat. I've been running cyanogen roms since the G1 and I've never heard of cm bricking phone's. Don't let this person talk you out of cm lol.
If cm bricks your phone you're (1) an idiot, or (2) shouldn't be rooting your phone in the first place.
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That's non sense, bricking phones say whaaaaat. I've been running cyanogen roms since the G1 and I've never heard of cm bricking phone's. Don't let this person talk you out of cm lol.
If cm bricks your phone you're (1) an idiot, or (2) shouldn't be rooting your phone in the first place.
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Yeah I like the CM7 ROM, but just can't take the restarts. I am going to upgrade to the newest stable release and see if that fixes it. I would like to stay with the CM7 if at all possible.
Swype
after the update I notice swype is gone, one of the stock features I like, anyone know where to find that again?
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after the update I notice swype is gone, one of the stock features I like, anyone know where to find that again?
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Its probably still there you just have to open a text window long press the text box and hit "input method". Once you hit input method swipe will still be there if it was installed.
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Its probably still there you just have to open a text window long press the text box and hit "input method". Once you hit input method swipe will still be there if it was installed.
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no its gone and won't let me use titanium backup to reinstall it either
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no its gone and won't let me use titanium backup to reinstall it either
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Do you have the latest titanium backup version? If you can't get it going the swype apk is all over the place lol. *wink wink*
Get the latest version (beta) from their site.
http://swypeinc.com/
dirkyd3rk said:
That's non sense, bricking phones say whaaaaat. I've been running cyanogen roms since the G1 and I've never heard of cm bricking phone's. Don't let this person talk you out of cm lol.
If cm bricks your phone you're (1) an idiot, or (2) shouldn't be rooting your phone in the first place.
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I have ran many different roms and CM7 was the ONLY one that caused my phone to reboot many times a day. A quick google search can show you threads about owners who had phones that bricked after running CM7. I never said it was gospel, I just dont need my phone rebooting multiple times during the day and it was way more often when I had wimax connected. CM is a great rom but its not the second coming of Android and not worth my phone rebooting during the day.
And I am running Smooth N Sexy V1.2 A sense ROM that looks like gingerbread.
Reboots
I've been through several ROMs now and the reboot problem appears to be not a ROM issue!
Here is the story. I had started with Baked Snack, very good, but I wanted more battery and to try CM and get away from Sprint messaging update nag.
CM worked great, I updated to 7, until the reboots started to happen during heavy use of Angry birds.
So I restored to early CM 6.x, and reboots continued off and on every few days, getting progressively worse.
So I tried Warm 2.2, same issues.
I went back to CM7 and still trouble.
I went to Fresh and It was fine for a week, and then on Friday, (I noticed that Friday was significant), reboots again.
So after a month of this the reboots are so bad that I can't use the phone. I called Sprint, de-provisioned the EVO, went back to my Palm, and then unrooted and went back to Stock ROM, but with no Cell access.
The phone is stable now. As long as it's off the Sprint Cellular network!!!
All of the reboots were related to cellular activity. Messages coming in, ads being updated, calls coming in, tower switching, roaming, or worse of all, no tower signals at all.
I will post back here if the phone remains stable without cellular. But all of the research I have done on the issue has pointed to cellular access. I am on wifi and all the apps and functions are working without issues so far. I am starting a dialog with HTC to see if there is a hardware problem.
The reboots also caused heat in the general area of the SD card...don't know what else is there but I do know the cellular antennas are on that side of the phone. Leaving the battery out all night, after an off state recharge would help stabilize the phone for a while, including cache wipes and factory resets.
But once the phone had been on for a while, or Friday morning would come, the reboots would continue.
I have been a computer nut for 30+years and I solve issues for a living. I strongly suspect the radio hardware or firmware as the culprit in this reboot issue. Every other account of this has had similar connections to the radio use.
Agreed 100% , I've been rooting since the day it first became available and never bricked my phone or got stuck in a boot loop by just flashing a "rom". If I get reboots its because I either flashed a kernel or a very unstable rom. It makes me laugh that you think "CM7" is causing the reboots. You say its CM7, I say it's idiots who probably don't follow directions.
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Agreed 100% , I've been rooting since the day it first became available and never bricked my phone or got stuck in a boot loop by just flashing a "rom". If I get reboots its because I either flashed a kernel or a very unstable rom. It makes me laugh that you think "CM7" is causing the reboots. You say its CM7, I say it's idiots who probably don't follow directions.
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Dude its all good, no need to call anyone an idots because we all can have different experiences. Any ROM thread in the dev section has reboot posts some have resolutions, some go to another rom and some seem to be hardware issues. Just like you have been rooting since day one like I have doesnt mean that CM7 is NOT causing my phone to reboot when no other ROM does not.
Your welcome for me allowing me brighten up your day by making you laugh, dont take your personal experiences and spread them across every user like its the ONLY experience.
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Dude its all good, no need to call anyone an idots because we all can have different experiences. Any ROM thread in the dev section has reboot posts some have resolutions, some go to another rom and some seem to be hardware issues. Just like you have been rooting since day one like I have doesnt mean that CM7 is NOT causing my phone to reboot when no other ROM does not.
Your welcome for me allowing me brighten up your day by making you laugh, dont take your personal experiences and spread them across every user like its the ONLY experience.
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Im not saying cm roms make sense look like windows 95 lol, and I also don't think cm roms would keep me from jumping ship to a 4.3" iPhone 5 neither. I'm simply saying you're pointing the finger at cm being the cause I'm saying imo its 95% user error that's all. When do you hear of experienced users complain of cm (stable) causing reboots or boot loops? Don't worry ill wait....
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Im not saying cm roms make sense look like windows 95 lol, and I also don't think cm roms would keep me from jumping ship to a 4.3" iPhone 5 neither. I'm simply saying you're pointing the finger at cm being the cause I'm saying imo its 95% user error that's all. When do you hear of experienced users complain of cm (stable) causing reboots or boot loops? Don't worry ill wait....
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Once more sir, I spoke from my own personal experience. Plain and simple CM7 was causing my EVO to reboot, and especially when it was on wimax or multitasking. Even from a clean install without restoring anything except for logging into google on the device. I spent 4 days troubleshooting the issue including trying different versions and nightlies. Oh yea..and before you ask the temps were normal on the device no higher than any other time.
But yet again another know it all here on XDA. Dam i must be dumb as **** to been flashing my phone since the froyo root method was released and never had another ROM give me that type of issue. The ROM is not worth me going back to the stock RUU and swapping hardware to since that seemed to be the the last variable after my troubleshooting. Not a big ****ing deal...my phone didnt agree with CM7 like I have seen a small number of other users out there. You dont see me around ROM threads always *****ing and moaning about issues when resolutions or known issues are posted on the first page or doing any other nonsense that I will guess others on here are doing that you may be referring to.
Obvious you are one of those XDA "experienced pros" that are quick think someone has no idea what they are doing with their phone. Post count doesnt mean everything bro.
misterzeno said:
Once more sir, I spoke from my own personal experience. Plain and simple CM7 was causing my EVO to reboot, and especially when it was on wimax or multitasking. Even from a clean install without restoring anything except for logging into google on the device. I spent 4 days troubleshooting the issue including trying different versions and nightlies. Oh yea..and before you ask the temps were normal on the device no higher than any other time.
But yet again another know it all here on XDA. Dam i must be dumb as **** to been flashing my phone since the froyo root method was released and never had another ROM give me that type of issue. The ROM is not worth me going back to the stock RUU and swapping hardware to since that seemed to be the the last variable after my troubleshooting. Not a big ****ing deal...my phone didnt agree with CM7 like I have seen a small number of other users out there. You dont see me around ROM threads always *****ing and moaning about issues when resolutions or known issues are posted on the first page or doing any other nonsense that I will guess others on here are doing that you may be referring to.
Obvious you are one of those XDA "experienced pros" that are quick think someone has no idea what they are doing with their phone. Post count doesnt mean everything bro.
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You've been flashing since froyo I've been flashing since 1.5 G1 hmmmmm let me think. I will say this though
dirkyd3rk said:
You've been flashing since froyo I've been flashing since 1.5 G1 hmmmmm let me think. I will say this though
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You win, you obviously have the bigger nerd e peen. I should go back to a flip phone. *Bowing to phone gawd*
You wouldn't be as much as an ass if you happen to suggest ONE resolution to the rebooting.

REVOLT!!!!!

I know that I come across as a prick on here lately, but I'm gonna start a revolution against ROM Manager and Kernel Manger...
Useless programs for people trying to shortcut a proven system...
One other thing I'm adding to that, but the vote is still out is any FormatAll programs. Both times i used Caulkins, I had to go reflash recovery via PC36IMG.
Newsflash! Wiping all in recovery works fine. I've flashed 1000 setups liek thnat with ZERO problems.
As for the former, not in ONE single thread for any ROMS doers it say "Use ROM Manager". Wanna know why?? Because using RECOVERY is a PROVEN system
I apologize to the Devs, especially Caulkin, because I think he's a genius, I know they put a lot of time and effort into their apps, but it's useless.
I see 10,000 posts about people having problems with flashing ROMS and Recovery and 9,900 of them were using ROM Manager.....
OK, now the people that are gonna tell me how wrong I am can chime in.....
I never used those apps myself, I prefer the piece of mind that's its being done right, I do like the format all zip I always used that.
I actually agree with you. I myself have come across issues with ROM manager the few times I've used it. Going into recovery yourself is more secure in getting the job done.
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HipKat said:
I know that I come across as a prick on here lately, but I'm gonna start a revolution against ROM Manager and Kernel Manger...
Useless programs for people trying to shortcut a proven system...
One other thing I'm adding to that, but the vote is still out is any FormatAll programs. Both times i used Caulkins, I had to go reflash recovery via PC36IMG.
Newsflash! Wiping all in recovery works fine. I've flashed 1000 setups liek thnat with ZERO problems.
As for the former, not in ONE single thread for any ROMS doers it say "Use ROM Manager". Wanna know why?? Because using RECOVERY is a PROVEN system
I apologize to the Devs, especially Caulkin, because I think he's a genius, I know they put a lot of time and effort into their apps, but it's useless.
I see 10,000 posts about people having problems with flashing ROMS and Recovery and 9,900 of them were using ROM Manager.....
OK, now the people that are gonna tell me how wrong I am can chime in.....
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I have to agree
Agree to a certain point, but I do highly appreciate the work of Koush and Team Win. If nothing else, they both serve as great means of downloading the latest kernel or Nightly.
HipKat said:
I know that I come across as a prick on here lately, but I'm gonna start a revolution against ROM Manager and Kernel Manger...
Useless programs for people trying to shortcut a proven system...
One other thing I'm adding to that, but the vote is still out is any FormatAll programs. Both times i used Caulkins, I had to go reflash recovery via PC36IMG.
Newsflash! Wiping all in recovery works fine. I've flashed 1000 setups liek thnat with ZERO problems.
As for the former, not in ONE single thread for any ROMS doers it say "Use ROM Manager". Wanna know why?? Because using RECOVERY is a PROVEN system
I apologize to the Devs, especially Caulkin, because I think he's a genius, I know they put a lot of time and effort into their apps, but it's useless.
I see 10,000 posts about people having problems with flashing ROMS and Recovery and 9,900 of them were using ROM Manager.....
OK, now the people that are gonna tell me how wrong I am can chime in.....
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ROM manager is just a gateway app, it doesn't flash the Rom for you it has a script to use in the recovery. It's kinda nice to ota a update.zip I can flash anytime.
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Its perfect for us newbies. And yes, we have the right to flash, and no, recovery is not self explaining!
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Meh, as long as the option is there to flash the old fashioned way (via recovery) is available, I can't really care too much about who may or may not be using rom manager or kernel manager.
xqzek said:
Its perfect for us newbies. And yes, we have the right to flash, and no, recovery is not self explaining!
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Which is why the threads for ROMS, normally have instructions on how to do it in recovery...
One thing that ROM Manager is great for is fixing permissions
Swyped From The Hippest Phone Using XDA Premium
You're from Peoria ... so, uh, yeah, you're wrong.
Kidding aside, or - maybe not, what does it even really matter?
The experienced, and not so much, use these services ... why do you care? Are the masses running to you for help? No. They're not. If people are going to do things wrong, they're going to do things wrong.
I've used Kernel Manager twice, only because it seemed convenient. I still looked through threads here. Even if I didn't, who cares?
People use these out of convenience, for the most part. Then, sure, there are some that use such because of them being simple and have no problems. Not to be rude, but what do you care if people do or do not use these? People are still going to **** their **** up, regardless.
Again, if you were the 'help master,' which you're not, I might understand. But you're not, so I fail to understand the reason for the thread. Apart from ridiculing people.
Because using RECOVERY is a PROVEN system
I apologize to the Devs, especially Caulkin, because I think he's a genius, I know they put a lot of time and effort into their apps, but it's useless.
I see 10,000 posts about people having problems with flashing ROMS and Recovery and 9,900 of them were using ROM Manager.....
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I will say this; I see as many people posting problems about issues flashing from recovery as well. Again, if people are going to **** something up, they are going to **** something up. And with most people I have seen, they are posting positive experiences from using ROM Manager. Now, I know - despite you actually using numbers - you have no numbers. So, naturally, I wouldn't make such a drastic assumption while trying to actually use numbers. Made up numbers at that.
And, so - in turn, it's NOT useless. People get much use out of such apps. 'Noobs' and perfectly able individuals alike.
Hell, when I wanted to flash the GodMode kernel I just hit KernelManager and had it take care of business in one foul swoop. Granted, I'm using an older version of Amon's recovery, so I would have had to go into my folder and move the kernel to the root of my SD card, then power down and wipe cache and dalvik and so forth. Instead, I hit 'teh magic button stick' and took a few hits and took a few drinks while my phone just sat there. Beautiful.
Granted, I don't rely solely on these apps / programs ... but even if I did, would you hate me? I can't imagine why, seeing as I don't look to you for help when things go wrong. Not that they ever have. But, honestly, whatever. This is a pretty petty thread.
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You're from Peoria ... so, uh, yeah, you're wrong.
Kidding aside, or - maybe not, what does it even really matter?
The experienced, and not so much, use these services ... why do you care? Are the masses running to you for help? No. They're not. If people are going to do things wrong, they're going to do things wrong.
I've used Kernel Manager twice, only because it seemed convenient. I still looked through threads here. Even if I didn't, who cares?
People use these out of convenience, for the most part. Then, sure, there are some that use such because of them being simple and have no problems. Not to be rude, but what do you care if people do or do not use these? People are still going to **** their **** up, regardless.
Again, if you were the 'help master,' which you're not, I might understand. But you're not, so I fail to understand the reason for the thread. Apart from ridiculing people.
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agreed i read the threads but have at least tried the progs and they seemd to only kind of work well the kernal manager rom manager seemed useless lol but why does it make a difference if someone uses it? are they taking money away from you or something? jw and yes there are people who use it and come back and are like OMFG my **** is ****ed up but then all they gotta do is figure out how to fix it manually so yeah then they probally wont use it again lol
gonna take this one step at a time,
HipKat said:
I know that I come across as a prick on here lately, but I'm gonna start a revolution against ROM Manager and Kernel Manger...
Useless programs for people trying to shortcut a proven system...
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if you dont like them, then simply do not use them. whats the problem?
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One other thing I'm adding to that, but the vote is still out is any FormatAll programs. Both times i used Caulkins, I had to go reflash recovery via PC36IMG.
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used it many times with out issue. sounds like arrogant user error to me. btw its Calkulin, if your going to insult someone at least get the name right
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Newsflash! Wiping all in recovery works fine. I've flashed 1000 setups liek thnat with ZERO problems.
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flashing one zip is simply more convenient that multiple wipes. calkulins zip was created to help the users yet instead of being thankful you are an ingrate.
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As for the former, not in ONE single thread for any ROMS doers it say "Use ROM Manager". Wanna know why?? Because using RECOVERY is a PROVEN system
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did you know that the rom dev has to setup and submit his rom to rom manager? why do you think they do this? rom manager is supported heavily by the rom devs. it is an easy way for users to find new roms they otherwise may miss.
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I apologize to the Devs, especially Caulkin, because I think he's a genius, I know they put a lot of time and effort into their apps, but it's useless.
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you apoligize and insult in the same sentence, doesn't seem to sincere to me.
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I see 10,000 posts about people having problems with flashing ROMS and Recovery and 9,900 of them were using ROM Manager.....
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9890 of those 9900 are most likely user error. besides that, point me in the direction of one specific post like this. i guarantee i can point out a step or instruction or warning that was ignored
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done and done. if you do not appreciate the work put in by these devs then do not use there apps. bashing them will only turn off devs whose sole purpose is to help the community.
I don't trust those programs to do what they're supposed to do; I've read about to many horror stories from people who used them.
u stink
I like ROM Manager and Kernel Manager, they are convenient apps for newbies like me.
Please stop posting this stupid crap - "A Revolt against ROM Manager & Kernel Manager" Are you serious? I thought it would be a joke but your serious- lol. Yes it does cause problems but thats cause of simple mistakes. I have flashed through ROM & Kernel manager numerous times without a single fail or anything. And the irony of you saying you hate the 9,900 post about people not being able to flash - yet your adding the # of worthless posts with this stupid bullcrap. Sorry that I'm coming off rude but give me a break. These developers built something for inexperienced users & even advanced users to add convenience to flashing. If you really want a change please contact the developer with some constructive feedback, not this pointless thread. Cause trust me, this stupid revolt is going to get any application taken down.
Sincerely,
D3luSi0n4L
p.s - If you feel differently and would like to speak please feel free to pm me.
i have used then all and have no NO troubles with them ...
if you dont like them dont use them period .
I am not a pro but flashing things to my phone is nothing I am new to and I for one love BOTH apps!
I can look and read up on a ROM and have this cool program
Download
Backup
Wipe
Install
And let me know if there is a update.
I have flashed many roms and never had a problem. . .
Well, there was a time I did not pick the new gapps and well. . . . That was my bad.
Can I start a "REVOLT" from post like this?
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I am a newbie to all this stuff and I've looked at Rom Manager and didn't understand it but I was taught to flash through recovery. Although my first flash I didn't backup my OS (will never make that mistake again). Recovery is quite simple. Still getting the hang of all the lingo and what exactly everything does though.
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Why the rage?
I've never used the kernel app but rom manager and format-all.zip (I guess you never use clear-temp-files.zip either) have their uses.
When I first flashed a rom, I used ROM Manager (anyone remember Damage Control?). Then I used it to download ROMs but flashed via RA AMON. Now, I only use it to fix permissions. It's a good app for beginners.
I've used format-all.zip and clear-temp countless times and NEVER had any problems. I also never had problems with rom manager - I stopped using it because I wanted to clear dalvik cache and I wasn't sure if CWM did that.
Calm down. Choices are good even if some aren't ones you would choose.
Evo HW 003
MIUI 1.5.20 with Tiamat 4.0.3 sbc
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I'm not gonna dispute people's opinions, but I'm not gonna change mine, either.
BTW, I'm not from Peoria! HELL, no. I'm here because this where the psycho that spawned my kids is with her new husband, and I need to be near my kids.
I'm from Buffalo, NY originally.....

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