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Starting to lose patience with my Hero

So, here is my story.
I have tried Fresh 1.1, and I found that I was getting may too many reboots both on the phone and on Sense for my liking.
So I switched to Modaco 2, and have been very happy for a while...
I just had yet another reboot.
I was listening to some music, when I had a notification for an email. Looked at the email, tried to lock my phone, then tried to unlock, and that's when the music went off, and my phone rebooted itself....
I'm really getting tired of this. I have not loaded any new apps in the past 2 days. I have minimal apps anyway (Facebook, Weatherbug, Handcent, NPR News, Touchdown, Power Manager and Droidswap, that is it)
does anyone have any history of problems with Droidswap ?
I'm really getting frustrated. I hate when this happens, and I'm giving realy consideration into curtailing my brief incursion onto Android and returning back to the iphone....which is a real shame, as I f**king hate ATT

I would recommend taking your phone back to the store. I have not have had one unplanned reboot the entire time I've had my Hero (bought on release date Oct 9). I'm running Fresh 1.1 now, and had 1.0 previously. There is something seriously wrong with your phone.

I have no problem speaking for the entire android community when I say...
"its been nice knowing you, good luck with the iPhone and att"

Honestly...I have never had a full reboot on its own.
I have seen Sense close out and have to reload usually after I play an intensive game, racing or something like that with alot of graphics. I assume it just runs out of ram and does its thing to get resources back.

That's a rare occasion there's not much people that it has happened to from what I seen. Did u try to wipe your phone and cache & whatnot, do some of that and see what happens
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Jdog stop trolling because u definitively don't speak for the Android community...

bronxknight28 said:
Jdog stop trolling because u definitively don't speak for the Android community...
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I think I can speak for the whole Android community when I say. "Please don't go" - The more of us we have the better. Given, I completely understand frustration and disappointment.

bronxknight28 said:
That's a rare occasion there's not much people that it has happened to from what I seen. Did u try to wipe your phone and cache & whatnot, do some of that and see what happens
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Jdog stop trolling because u definitively don't speak for the Android community...
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Bronx,
Myself and many other members of this site and over at modaco's site have given advise on this issue. Griff insulted flipz and other devs in the fresh Rom thread, then went to modaco and started talking trash on the devs here.
Every post is about this reboot problem, that no one can seem to replicate.
I apologize for being rude but if someone doesn't take any of the advise given,then continues to clutter up the forums with new threads about the same thing it ticks me off...

Try TTG. It's made a world of difference for me.

thedudejdog said:
Every post is about this reboot problem, that no one can seem to replicate.
I apologize for being rude but if someone doesn't take any of the advise given,then continues to clutter up the forums with new threads about the same thing it ticks me off...
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The advice he should be taking is to STOP LOADING APPS.
Out of the apps he has listed, I only use Facebook and Handcent SMS... so I'm willing to vouch for those two as not being the culprit. If he hasn't done a wipe and tried running with minimal apps, then the problem is his own fault.

some people just arn't made for android, and apple's buisness model is "you're too dumb to want to do that" actually applies to some people
EDIT: and there is nothing and I mean NOTHING in the world that gives me more of a nerd-boner than someone "rage-quitting" it puts a beautiful smell in the air... the smell of victory

thedudejdog said:
Bronx,
Myself and many other members of this site and over at modaco's site have given advise on this issue. Griff insulted flipz and other devs in the fresh Rom thread, then went to modaco and started talking trash on the devs here.
Every post is about this reboot problem, that no one can seem to replicate.
I apologize for being rude but if someone doesn't take any of the advise given,then continues to clutter up the forums with new threads about the same thing it ticks me off...
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Erm, ex-****ing-scuse me, but can you PLEASE copy the link to the post where I insulted Flipz and started talking trash ?

x99percent said:
The advice he should be taking is to STOP LOADING APPS.
Out of the apps he has listed, I only use Facebook and Handcent SMS... so I'm willing to vouch for those two as not being the culprit. If he hasn't done a wipe and tried running with minimal apps, then the problem is his own fault.
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I haven't got lots of apps loaded.
And I have gone back to stock, wiped, formatted my SD card many times...etc...etc.
All I am saying is that I am experiencing completely random reboots, and I'm desperate to hear if anyone else is.
This dudejdog or whatever he likes to call himself is plain wrong. I have never, and never will trash anyone. I urge him to prove if I have.

Guys, please, I am not into flaming anyone. I paid my subs to Modaco to get his ROM for chrissake.
ALL I am saying is that I am having issues with reboots of sense and phone when running modded ROMS.
I DO NOT HAVE THE SAME ISSUES WITH STOCK.
That's my bottom line here...I do not have issues with stock.
I am going to run stock with all my normal apps for at least a week now to see what happens. I may be back to the boards at a later date because I don't want to give up on this phone.

grifforama said:
Guys, please, I am not into flaming anyone. I paid my subs to Modaco to get his ROM for chrissake.
ALL I am saying is that I am having issues with reboots of sense and phone when running modded ROMS.
I DO NOT HAVE THE SAME ISSUES WITH STOCK.
That's my bottom line here...I do not have issues with stock.
I am going to run stock with all my normal apps for at least a week now to see what happens. I may be back to the boards at a later date because I don't want to give up on this phone.
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You could try stock and maybe figure out the Apps2SD scripting that way you have both.

grifforama said:
Guys, please, I am not into flaming anyone. I paid my subs to Modaco to get his ROM for chrissake.
ALL I am saying is that I am having issues with reboots of sense and phone when running modded ROMS.
I DO NOT HAVE THE SAME ISSUES WITH STOCK.
That's my bottom line here...I do not have issues with stock.
I am going to run stock with all my normal apps for at least a week now to see what happens. I may be back to the boards at a later date because I don't want to give up on this phone.
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Did you try removing any partitions you might have set up (for Apps2SD or swapfiles)...just an idea, simply reformatting your SD card will NOT delete partitions.

grifforama said:
I haven't got lots of apps loaded.
And I have gone back to stock, wiped, formatted my SD card many times...etc...etc.
All I am saying is that I am experiencing completely random reboots, and I'm desperate to hear if anyone else is.
This dudejdog or whatever he likes to call himself is plain wrong. I have never, and never will trash anyone. I urge him to prove if I have.
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Okay...you said you've gone back to stock. When you go back to stock without any other programs loaded, are you still experiencing the issue?
If not, what I suggest is to load each of your programs one at a time, pausing after you load them for at least 12 hours to see if the reboot occurs. I know that's a time consuming process, but it may help to isolate.
If you are having reboot issues with no additional applications loaded and while you are using the stock ROM, I think there maybe something wrong with the hardware and you should take it back to Sprint for replacement.
Hopefully this helps, or at least points you in a direction to go.

grifforama said:
Guys, please, I am not into flaming anyone. I paid my subs to Modaco to get his ROM for chrissake.
ALL I am saying is that I am having issues with reboots of sense and phone when running modded ROMS.
I DO NOT HAVE THE SAME ISSUES WITH STOCK.
That's my bottom line here...I do not have issues with stock.
I am going to run stock with all my normal apps for at least a week now to see what happens. I may be back to the boards at a later date because I don't want to give up on this phone.
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When you return, let us know your results and we'll try to help you. I'm thinking it is an application. I had this issue when I tried to update the Superuser Permission program. When it tried to update from Android Marketplace, it would reboot the phone (I actually saw "System crash is inevitable" in the trace log when it tried to update the program).
If you don't mind me asking, what version of the Stock ROM are you using? I did have issues when I was running a custom ROM (Modaco) running 1.29 and tried to upgrade to a custom ROM (again, Modaco) with 1.56. My issue was force close issues that I could not fix. The solution was to revert back to stock, let the OTA update upgrade the phone, reroot and apply the new Modaco ROM.
I understand this isn't a force close issue, but your problem may be similar in nature.

ljmeli said:
Did you try removing any partitions you might have set up (for Apps2SD or swapfiles)...just an idea, simply reformatting your SD card will NOT delete partitions.
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How do I check for partitions ? I thought formatting would get rid of that ?
I remember partitioning a while back, but I have since formatted, and presumed that would have cleared it ?
I'm not back to Stock 1.56.651.2 build CL85027
I took a chance and re-installed pretty much every application I had previously, apart from the obvious rooted apps like droidswap and cachemate.
It's looking fairly stable for now, but I'll report back over the next few days to see how it goes.
I have to say, I've not once slated anyone on this forum. I have total respect for Flipz and I paid Modaco the subs to try his 2.0 beta and then the release. I really would like to use the rooted ROMS, but right now, I just want to see why my phone is doing what it's doing...

thedudejdog said:
I have no problem speaking for the entire android community when I say...
"its been nice knowing you, good luck with the iPhone and att"
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hahahahahahahahahaha...
awesome..
but ya, no problems here, sorry mate!
(either user error or bad hardware)

thedudejdog said:
I have no problem speaking for the entire android community when I say...
"its been nice knowing you, good luck with the iPhone and att"
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As jdog says in a few posts below the one I'm quoting... I have done everything I can to try and help him. I have directly worked with him. Along with a ton of other members on this forum. He chose to go to modaco and say that it fixed all his problems and trash fresh. Now here he is saying he's having the same problems.... again.
Edit: With the hard reboots you are getting, I honestly think you need to go exchange your phone.

Want to get in on the fun!

Ok, so I've worked with computers my whole life, and got the G1 right away and now the vibrant. I never did any moding to the G1 cuz I was ascared, but now I'm ready to go all in with the V. Here's my problem:
I just want some clarification on some technical terms, ROM, kernal, and their difference. I'm really not dumb I'm just scared I'll eff up. See I was about to flash Bionix w/voodoo, until I read more and saw Eugene's 2.2 and the JAC kernal, also Team Whisky just released something new, maybe just an update to bionix, idk.
So yeah, I know this is noobish, I'm just hoping to get a little talking to by some smart folks here so I feel a little more knowledgeable.

dcpetterson said:
Ok, so I've worked with computers my whole life, and got the G1 right away and now the vibrant. I never did any moding to the G1 cuz I was ascared, but now I'm ready to go all in with the V. Here's my problem:
I just want some clarification on some technical terms, ROM, kernal, and their difference. I'm really not dumb I'm just scared I'll eff up. See I was about to flash Bionix w/voodoo, until I read more and saw Eugene's 2.2 and the JAC kernal, also Team Whisky just released something new, maybe just an update to bionix, idk.
So yeah, I know this is noobish, I'm just hoping to get a little talking to by some smart folks here so I feel a little more knowledgeable.
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welcome. bricking the vibrant is actually hard to do. be sure to always use the search forum and the question-and-answers forum here before doing anything else and to avoid getting flamed. i suggest going to the "vibrant directory bible" sticky and start from there. the sticky is located in the development section here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=711

ryan562 said:
welcome. bricking the vibrant is actually hard to do. be sure to always use the search forum and the question-and-answers forum here before doing anything else and to avoid getting flamed. i suggest going to the "vibrant directory bible" sticky and start from there. the sticky is located in the development section here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=711
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just a question, why do people say that bricking the vibrant is hard to do when lots of people are encountering a soft brick? does the brick you're pertaining to is the one that cannot be fixed anymore?

iynfynity said:
just a question, why do people say that bricking the vibrant is hard to do when lots of people are encountering a soft brick? does the brick you're pertaining to is the one that cannot be fixed anymore?
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Im sure he means the literal 'bricking' where it is no more than a paperweight, forever (aside from maybe a jtag flash).
Soft bricks are easy but also relatively easy to recover from.
ROM - Think of it as an OS
Kernel - The main piece of code that manages resources on the computer while running.
In the Galaxy S (other phones too?), the kernel is flashed to a specific part of the internal storage. The ROM is the rest of the stuff needed for the phone to do phone stuff (make phone calls, send txts, mms, images, icons, etc)
Sometimes a ROM comes with a kernel as well. Sometimes it will use the 'stock' kernel (i.e. the one that comes with the phone from the factory). JAC, KK, et. al have their own UV/OC kernel built from the samsung sources. I've built some playing with various options. It's not terribly difficult but you should know linux/compiling before hand.
Aaaanyway, I would suggest starting with stock Bionix or possibly UV/OC versions. Leave voodoo until you get more comfortable. Get used to ROM manager and/or Titanium backup. Maybe run through Odin a few times. I keep meaning to write up a short HOWTO on basic procedures, but keep getting side tracked. Someone posted a nice youtube video which works well though.

What is kernal?

Thanks a lot, flashed fusion last night and its going well so far. I feel less dumb now. Not using any lag fix with the JAC version, if I wanted to, is there one I can use?
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

dcpetterson said:
Thanks a lot, flashed fusion last night and its going well so far. I feel less dumb now. Not using any lag fix with the JAC version, if I wanted to, is there one I can use?
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You can always flash Voodoo on top of Fusion. The information on that is in the Bionix Fusion thread. You should have that thread as a bookmark if you are running that rom.
One thing I do is carry a thumbdrive or flash media with a folder for all my Android stuff. And I have a special folder that has the instructions AND the files/programs necessary to undo a soft brick of my phone.
And one rule to live by, when in doubt ALWAYS disable Voodoo.

Great advice, gettin my own.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

Don't forget to backup when switching Roms. There are two main ways to backup that you should get into the habit of doing:
Nandroid: Basically backups the entire phone for the "Uh-Oh" moments (You can use this function through clockwork recovery. Its the option called "backup and restore" or "nandroid")
Titanium Backup: Backups the data of your apps and basically freezes them into a backup (you can download this from the market, instructions in the app) It saves backups to its own folder.
The most important thing to do is to backup your backups to your computer somewhere! If not, you'll lose your backups!! Then, you'll be really screwed.

"The new guy 6"... any one use it?

Hello i noticed the thread for "the new guy" rom is gone. I have also noticed that the new guy 6 is out, but i cant find any information on it. Is there something wrong with this rom build? i am currently running new guy 5, which is one of the only roms ive been able to get usb tether working on.
i also notice the creater andrizoid has been disabled on the forums. i hope someone could shed some light on this for me.

john10101 said:
Hello i noticed the thread for "the new guy" rom is gone. I have also noticed that the new guy 6 is out, but i cant find any information on it. Is there something wrong with this rom build? i am currently running new guy 5, which is one of the only roms ive been able to get usb tether working on.
i also notice the creater andrizoid has been disabled on the forums. i hope someone could shed some light on this for me.
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Think there was Warez in his release.
Ya lame right? Think it was Swype(that ****ty worthless keyboard)

Interesting. Ive never even looked that that keyboard.
so otherwise the rom is safe to use?
any one know where a change log could be found?

john10101 said:
I think this is what you call irony
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haha, yea that Jimmy guy was trolling Blackdroid's UD 2.0 thread hardcore the other day.
He was acting like a little ***** and doesn't even know what BD did and nothing affected him. He is just another dumb noob Oh well I am so sad I am on his ignore list

now that my thread is completely derailed. let me try to bring it back on track.
is this rom otherwise save to use? is there a place where i can find a change log? is there a forum?
i dont necessarily need this rom, but i need usb tether, and no other roms i have tried work. so i feel stuck to it right now. maybe i just wont upgrade it.

Yes, the rom is completely safe to use.
the creator of the rom was using another roms framework without permission, so this is why he was shut down. i was running newguy 6 for a few days and it ran great, but have since switched to warm 2.2, the rom that newguy is based off of.

use this rom instead - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809985
It wasn't just because of swype, some people need to read up a bit more before posting incorrect information. He was using framework, from a different rom, and passing it off as his own, not giving credit, etc...
The rom i posted above is much better, you will be happy with that one.

kevin217 said:
Yes, the rom is completely safe to use.
the creator of the rom was using another roms framework without permission, so this is why he was shut down. i was running newguy 6 for a few days and it ran great, but have since switched to warm 2.2, the rom that newguy is based off of.
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he wasn't using warm's framework, he was using the whole rom as his. but anyway, if you want to use the real deal, flash warm two point two rls3. this rom kills all past warm rls and "the lame guy"......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809985
my bad goos3y, you must of posted as i was posting....

im glad i asked, i will check out this rom. is it available on rom manager? or do i have to do it manually?

john10101 said:
im glad i asked, i will check out this rom. is it available on rom manager? or do i have to do it manually?
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manually is always best, rom manager has been sucking it for a while know. make sure you completly wipe everything. people have been reporting BS bugs because they don't wipe....

im lazy i like rom manager... all well. ok ill play with this rom over the weekend.

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Stoney 666 said:
manually is always best, rom manager has been sucking it for a while know. make sure you completly wipe everything. people have been reporting BS bugs because they don't wipe....
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I can definitely vouch for Myn's Warm rom. And to be specific, Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo RLS 3 rom is not available in rom manager.
"The New Guy" rom developer broke the rules on many different fronts and has since been banned by the senior members who built this community.
It would be greatly beneficial for you to research and learn how to use the recovery mode of your phone to manually install roms. You're already rooted, so if you haven't already, spend the 6 bucks for Titanium backup pro and Root Explorer, they are worthy investments.
Always read the rom developers full original post (OP) before installing roms.
Most will tell you that you need to wipe 3 things prior to installing a new rom:
1)Wipe data/Factory reset
2)Wipe cache
3)Wipe the Dalvik cache
Some devs will tell you that you do not need to do all steps if you are upgrading the same rom, but again, read the OP to be sure.
I hope this helps. Good luck my friend.

Im pretty familiar with the process. but im also lazy. and my laziness usually wins. thanks for the help, ill check out this rom.

so i have checked out the suggested rom. seems to work well, but im back to having usb tether not work. ive tried quite a few roms, and the only one that works is the newguy 5
i really dont understand how no one else is having this issue. what could be different between these roms?
when i plug my phone into usb, and select mobile broadband connect, i get something called "android phone" as an unknown device. the modem hardware does not show up at all. any suggestions?

Flash 10.1 will not install on NewGuy 6

not to go crazy off track again, but i believe he said that his rom was based off myns. there were obviously a lot of changes made to it-your example about usb tethering working on it and not on myns. its like building a rom based off the htc release and saying that you didnt actually do anything with it, all roms start somewhere. the actual reason it got deleted though was beacuse of swype, using other roms as a base is in no way against the rules. rebranding a rom-which isnt what he did-is.
just my two cents. stoney go ahead and freak out on me, we all know how much of a myn follower you are, which is fine. but stop trash talking our devs, things like that drive people away from our community. ive seen quite a few threads pop up about the bullying and unnecessary asshole behavior thats been going on lately. if you dont like the rom, dont use it. nobody is asking you to, but that doesnt give you a reason to trash talk it.
i personally am building a rom based off nils business sense-its the closest i could find to the stock latest htc release-im on ubuntu and cant use the ruu-but ill be incorporating a lot of the theme and overall feel of tng, plus a few of the features he added. if your looking for something that feels similar to tng, keep yur eyes on the boards for the next few weeks,

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Flash 10.1 will not install on NewGuy 6
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oh and i think thats because he already baked in the modded flash for hulu, but im not positive.

I think The New Guy 6 is Great ... just was wondering why "Flash 10.1 won't install and "Hulu app" also will not work....

RLeeA said:
I think The New Guy 6 is Great ... just was wondering why "Flash 10.1 won't install and "Hulu app" also will not work....
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i think he used the wrong flash. i had to through a different one one before i got it to work. i think he mentioned it just before the thread was removed.

I'm trying to install the "Flash 10.1" from the Market, but to no avail

[Q] How to Lock up your Nexus one (please read)

I want to demonstrate to someone how the phone can get stuck on something like bootloader or failed rom installations.
I currently have a nexus one with the bootloader still locked (but rooted). I dont want to try anything and render the phone dead. So I want to know if there is a for sure way t put the phone in a mode where it looks as if it doesn't work, yet be able to recover from it easily. Asking for opinions first.
I still want to have my phone maintained such that the bootloader stays locked.
Thanks
C

Turning the phone off makes it look likes it doesn't work.
P.S why are you doing this though? Really? Is it to make someone think their phone is broken so you can buy it cheap then fix it and keep it?

cymru said:
Turning the phone off makes it look likes it doesn't work.
P.S why are you doing this though? Really? Is it to make someone think their phone is broken so you can buy it cheap then fix it and keep it?
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Didn't think of that. Maybe i should.
No, to make someone understand the process that I go through in updating the phone so that they can stop bothering me while Im doing it.
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I just realized that your post was so condescending. I asked a question and phrased it accordingly, to "demonstrate."
Don't you just love it when people express their opinion not knowing the entire story.
Try opinionating for the better, the next time.
And yeah, don't forget to help out people every now and then.
Thanks for your HELP!
C

haha no worries

If i understand what you are asking, try backing up your rom, then flash completely different rom without wiping. That should by all accounts give you a bootloop.

Might be easier to have them watch some youtube vid's of flashing, rooting, unlocking, etc. They then should get the idea...

I would just nandroid and wipe my phone (I dunno how well that'd go I've never tried it but I don't see how it could totally brick your phone, who knows!)

I don't know if you've got anything flashed on your phone, but if not flash a recovery then yeah, flash any different rom without wiping and you should get boot loops.

Format /system
That should do it... xD

liam.lah said:
If i understand what you are asking, try backing up your rom, then flash completely different rom without wiping. That should by all accounts give you a bootloop.
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I think this is what I will do... thx again.
galaxys said:
Might be easier to have them watch some youtube vid's of flashing, rooting, unlocking, etc. They then should get the idea...
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yeah but I need them to see me cuz they ultimately have to stop bothering me... lol
KAwAtA said:
I would just nandroid and wipe my phone (I dunno how well that'd go I've never tried it but I don't see how it could totally brick your phone, who knows!)
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not sure i get what you mean, "wipe" is a loose term here, wipe is generally associated with "data" wipe so it wont matter, it would just reset my phone to factory settings
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I don't know if you've got anything flashed on your phone, but if not flash a recovery then yeah, flash any different rom without wiping and you should get boot loops.
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yeah i have blandroid at the moment, will try flashing some cm7 without wiping
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Format /system
That should do it... xD
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how?

It's an option in Clockwork recovery

Rusty! said:
It's an option in Clockwork recovery
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Cool, i should pay more attention to the CWM recovery options thx

Telling people to not bother you isn't enough?

cymru said:
Turning the phone off makes it look likes it doesn't work.
P.S why are you doing this though? Really? Is it to make someone think their phone is broken so you can buy it cheap then fix it and keep it?
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For the record, I think this is a fair question, and not particularly condescending.
OP: You are asking a legit question, but you have to admit it's a bit of a strange request. You can't blame people for wondering what you're up to, I thought the same thing. Not that you were scamming someone, but couldn't understand why you'd want to do this (I get it now... sort of). It's an impersonal forum, so there shouldn't be any hard feelings.

One thing that constantly caused bootloops in the CyanogenMod forum was to flash the Froyo gapps with a Gingerbread install. Bootloop every time.
You could probably flash a theme that wasn't designed for Gingerbread. I'd bet that would give you a bootloop (especially the further you go back... flash a cupcake theme for a G1 onto an N1 )

Maybe I'm just being cynical but it seems to me that the OP is doing something shady here. He wants to do something that makes no sense and then immediately jumps down the throat of someone who basically calls him for it. His reasoning for why he wants to do this nonsensical thing is also pretty nonsensical. I'd guess he's trying to scam something from someone.

Wylker said:
Maybe I'm just being cynical but it seems to me that the OP is doing something shady here. He wants to do something that makes no sense and then immediately jumps down the throat of someone who basically calls him for it. His reasoning for why he wants to do this nonsensical thing is also pretty nonsensical. I'd guess he's trying to scam something from someone.
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Yes, I completely agree with your first statement. YOU ARE BEING CYNICAL!!!
Ok as an avid lover of my phone (nexus one), I have the right to ask the means of breaking this phone if i'm going to root it and install a ROM which is only supported by the community that helps develop it (that includes primarily folks over at XDA). If you think I'm upto no good, too bad. Assume the worst, do whatever the F*** you want. All I'm trying to do is show my cousin what a bootlooped phone looks like. And apparently each time I am in the process of doing it, he wants to use the pc. He likes killing all the running apps when he's on the PC, and i need to stop him from screwing up something that can potentially f*** up my phone. I often switch from Stock N1 to CM7 to blandroid, and thankfully i follow directions which is why my phone hasn't boot looped til date.
Yes I jumped throat on the 1st person who responded, but look at my response before jumping throat. I didn't really think of the response as condescending, until had posted my answer, hence the edit.
Don't bother posting such crappy posts unless you want to feel like you're getting scolded by the DA's office for wrongful accusation.
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Well you cannot blame people for coming up with these various speculations. My 2 cents, but you just redirect your energy towards your cousin more rather then get angry over forum post.
The way I see your situation is this. The PC used to flash your phone, who is the owner? If you own it, tell him to wait like a good little boy or he can GTFO of your computer, ban him. Or if the PC belongs to him, maybe it's time you suck it up and respect when and how he wants to use his PC, and flash your phone using another instead. Or maybe get a job and buy your own?
Time to man up. Either you tell him to GTFO of your PC, or you GTFO of his. Simple solution to what I see to a simple matter. No need to complicate things by semi-bricking your phone.
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Either show him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I5XaDAuiEs
OR
Stop trying to make your cousin think he's broken you phone in order to ..
a) get him to pay for a replacement and/or
b) scare the crap out of him

Smelkus recovery vs. TWRP recovery LET THE BATTLE BEGIN!

Now that we have a few options for recoveries, it seems the discussion has been getting a little heated as to who's recoveries reign supreme.
I thought I would create this thread so those who have differing opinions can express them here without clogging the dev threads. Battle it out here but please KEEP IT CLEAN! Maybe some good ideas will come out of it. :thumbup:
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Good idea we shall see how this goes lol. I don't get why fans of either one, I personally use Smelkus, bother going into the thread of the other and bashing it. Just stick with your own thread in development lol.

Kreatur3 said:
Good idea we shall see how this goes lol. I don't get why fans of either one, I personally use Smelkus, bother going into the thread of the other and bashing it. Just stick with your own thread in development lol.
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I agree, I have used both and am using TWRP at the moment. I think both are great, but there is always room for improvement... TWRP has a great ui, simple touch screen commands, very user friendly. Smelkus gets right down to the nitty gritty, more wiping options and auto reboot. Good stuff on both.
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be very careful with this kind of thread, there are "fanboys" of each recovery mode.
and you might never get a straight answer but only get "bla blah" answers..
oh and btw, im using smelkus right now, and it never failed me like CWM did.. :highfive:

Another key difference between the two is the ability of RA-based recoveries to flash firmware from within recovery. Additionally, RA-based recoveries still support Amend scripting for the old-school (or "throwback", if you will ). Both of these allow OTA updates to be flashed without having to go back to the stock recovery (if you're on a completely stock ROM, of course).
Graphically and UI-wise, I think most people would agree that TWRP reigns supreme. Some of the features in the new TWRP are just crazy, like the built in Terminal Emulator and File Manager. That's been extremely helpful when I want to flash a PC36IMG zip file from a folder on my sd card, without having to connect my device to a computer. The renaming of backups is also a great feature (though I'd prefer it if the default name was there as a start first, as I typically use the date as the first item to identify my backup).
I do like the group and individual wipes offered by smelkusMOD, though. I would like the ability to wipe each partition (including /boot) in TWRP individually. TWRP really doesn't give you the ability to just wipe /data without wiping /sd-ext too, which doesn't really allow you to keep the apps you have installed there from ROM to ROM if you're using a2sd. This is a minor inconvenience if you only have a few apps, but it becomes a major one if you ext partition is almost full.
I personally think both recoveries are great. I keep a PC36IMG.zip on the root of my sd card at all times that has the latest version of smelkusMOD, while currently running TWRP as my main recovery. In case something goes wrong in TWRP, I can flash back to smelkusMOD with no issue.
P.S. I also use Boot Manager Pro, and I can restore a smelkusMOD-reated nandroid to a BMP slot, while I cannot do so with TWRP. I'm not sure if that's a format thing, or just how the backup files are named. So that's another thing to consider. If smelkusMOD had the same type of touchscreen/scrolling engine that TWRP has, that would definitely bring it up a notch. But I think the existing code would have to be completely revamped to accomodate that, and really there's no reason, because that's why we have variety :good:.
P.P.S. After reading the above post, I hope that my response came off objective, rather than as a "fanboy" response . It's also interesting to me that ClockWork Mod isn't even part of the discussion. To anyone that reads this - there is a good reason for that!!
P.P.P.S. And I hope no one forgets that I was another one that was bricked by the infamous TWRP 2.0, but I was able to recover my device and help at least one other person recover his. You'd think that would've scared me away from TWRP, right? (or maybe I'm just a moron and/or a glutton for punishment). Seriously though, I believe the recovery is working well now, as does smelkusMOD. To each his or her own.

No way capt!!, You obviously not a fanboy, i always think that you will come with a good answers and a good reasons too .. and you did it again!!
thanks for the insight, as for TWRP, perhaps i would try it someday :good:

adityo97 said:
be very careful with this kind of thread, there are "fanboys" of each recovery mode.
and you might never get a straight answer but only get "bla blah" answers..
oh and btw, im using smelkus right now, and it never failed me like CWM did.. :highfive:
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I just hope that those that want to argue and insult the other will come here instead of mucking up the development threads of each. :victory:

HarlanPepper0010 said:
I agree, I have used both and am using TWRP at the moment. I think both are great, but there is always room for improvement... TWRP has a great ui, simple touch screen commands, very user friendly. Smelkus gets right down to the nitty gritty, more wiping options and auto reboot. Good stuff on both.
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I thought of that auto reboot, and I think someone passed it along, but that isn't the point.
TWRP is a great recovery, but smelkus, based on amon ra, still carries the feature to flash amend scripted packages, which is a big deal since a lot of people / devs haven't converted a lot of the files to edify.

teh roxxorz said:
I thought of that auto reboot, and I think someone passed it along, but that isn't the point.
TWRP is a great recovery, but smelkus, based on amon ra, still carries the feature to flash amend scripted packages, which is a big deal since a lot of people / devs haven't converted a lot of the files to edify.
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Interesting... I have not run across an amend script since my days of flashing on the og incredible. .
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HarlanPepper0010 said:
Interesting... I have not run across an amend script since my days of flashing on the og incredible. .
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about 40% of all android developers still use amend scripting. That's a lot of people.
ropodope
What did the five fingers say to the face? Sa la ppa.

I have tried both recoveries and have to say I like smelkus' recovery best. TWRP has a really cool UI, but I love the options in smelkus. If they could make a Smelkus/TWRP recovery, now that would be awesome!
Kendall

Troll switch [-] on.
CWM!!!! Trololol

death-by-soap said:
Troll switch [-] on.
CWM!!!! Trololol
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Troll is my middle name lol
trolla la la la la!!!!!!

ropodope said:
about 40% of all android developers still use amend scripting. That's a lot of people.
ropodope
What did the five fingers say to the face? Sa la ppa.
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Wow! I thought it was completely phased out... I remember the days of trying to flash a Rom with that damn edify script and it told me no dice... Haha!
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Smelkus for me

i'd throw my hat in the ring for smelkus. twrp has some potential though tho the bricking issue makes me weary (most because i use my phone for work so bricking it wouldnt kill me but would sure cause a huge inconvenience but diff story for diff day )
and i'll second 40 percent being a lot

Both recoveries are outdated to me. Why can't a recovery just know what I want to do, and then do it without me having to push buttons...or touch the screen?
Maybe you guys could add a Siri voice or something that would ask me questions and then do stuff? But it also has to know when not to ask me questions, because too many questions aggravate me. Also, and this is a deal breaker for me...it can't talk when I'm watching football...EVER!!! It needs to just sit there, and wait for a commercial.
I ain't got time for no recovery asking me stupid wipe questions when the game is on...juss sayin'

I'd be interested in trying TWRP, and I know that's it's no longer an issue, but the history of bricking in the older version just makes me fearful of it.
TBH, choices is what makes this community so great, and customization is what users want, so the more choices to customize a device to your own liking, the better

HipKat said:
I'd be interested in trying TWRP, and I know that's it's no longer an issue, but the history of bricking in the older version just makes me fearful of it.
TBH, choices is what makes this community so great, and customization is what users want, so the more choices to customize a device to your own liking, the better
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I say give it a shot hip. I'm using it now and have had no problems. I know a lot of people are wary because of a possible brick, but don't we see the same warning when we flash roms? I mean if we saw a sign on our cars that said "there is a possibility you could crash today" would that stop us from jumping in it everyday? Just sayin...
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spyder3 said:
Both recoveries are outdated to me. Why can't a recovery just know what I want to do, and then do it without me having to push buttons...or touch the screen?
Maybe you guys could add a Siri voice or something that would ask me questions and then do stuff? But it also has to know when not to ask me questions, because too many questions aggravate me. Also, and this is a deal breaker for me...it can't talk when I'm watching football...EVER!!! It needs to just sit there, and wait for a commercial.
I ain't got time for no recovery asking me stupid wipe questions when the game is on...juss sayin'
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I hear they have toilets that "wipe" for you.... Jussayin' :laugh: