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I want to demonstrate to someone how the phone can get stuck on something like bootloader or failed rom installations.
I currently have a nexus one with the bootloader still locked (but rooted). I dont want to try anything and render the phone dead. So I want to know if there is a for sure way t put the phone in a mode where it looks as if it doesn't work, yet be able to recover from it easily. Asking for opinions first.
I still want to have my phone maintained such that the bootloader stays locked.
Thanks
C
Turning the phone off makes it look likes it doesn't work.
P.S why are you doing this though? Really? Is it to make someone think their phone is broken so you can buy it cheap then fix it and keep it?
cymru said:
Turning the phone off makes it look likes it doesn't work.
P.S why are you doing this though? Really? Is it to make someone think their phone is broken so you can buy it cheap then fix it and keep it?
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Didn't think of that. Maybe i should.
No, to make someone understand the process that I go through in updating the phone so that they can stop bothering me while Im doing it.
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I just realized that your post was so condescending. I asked a question and phrased it accordingly, to "demonstrate."
Don't you just love it when people express their opinion not knowing the entire story.
Try opinionating for the better, the next time.
And yeah, don't forget to help out people every now and then.
Thanks for your HELP!
C
haha no worries
If i understand what you are asking, try backing up your rom, then flash completely different rom without wiping. That should by all accounts give you a bootloop.
Might be easier to have them watch some youtube vid's of flashing, rooting, unlocking, etc. They then should get the idea...
I would just nandroid and wipe my phone (I dunno how well that'd go I've never tried it but I don't see how it could totally brick your phone, who knows!)
I don't know if you've got anything flashed on your phone, but if not flash a recovery then yeah, flash any different rom without wiping and you should get boot loops.
Format /system
That should do it... xD
liam.lah said:
If i understand what you are asking, try backing up your rom, then flash completely different rom without wiping. That should by all accounts give you a bootloop.
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I think this is what I will do... thx again.
galaxys said:
Might be easier to have them watch some youtube vid's of flashing, rooting, unlocking, etc. They then should get the idea...
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yeah but I need them to see me cuz they ultimately have to stop bothering me... lol
KAwAtA said:
I would just nandroid and wipe my phone (I dunno how well that'd go I've never tried it but I don't see how it could totally brick your phone, who knows!)
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not sure i get what you mean, "wipe" is a loose term here, wipe is generally associated with "data" wipe so it wont matter, it would just reset my phone to factory settings
ThudButt said:
I don't know if you've got anything flashed on your phone, but if not flash a recovery then yeah, flash any different rom without wiping and you should get boot loops.
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yeah i have blandroid at the moment, will try flashing some cm7 without wiping
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Format /system
That should do it... xD
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how?
It's an option in Clockwork recovery
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It's an option in Clockwork recovery
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Cool, i should pay more attention to the CWM recovery options thx
Telling people to not bother you isn't enough?
cymru said:
Turning the phone off makes it look likes it doesn't work.
P.S why are you doing this though? Really? Is it to make someone think their phone is broken so you can buy it cheap then fix it and keep it?
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For the record, I think this is a fair question, and not particularly condescending.
OP: You are asking a legit question, but you have to admit it's a bit of a strange request. You can't blame people for wondering what you're up to, I thought the same thing. Not that you were scamming someone, but couldn't understand why you'd want to do this (I get it now... sort of). It's an impersonal forum, so there shouldn't be any hard feelings.
One thing that constantly caused bootloops in the CyanogenMod forum was to flash the Froyo gapps with a Gingerbread install. Bootloop every time.
You could probably flash a theme that wasn't designed for Gingerbread. I'd bet that would give you a bootloop (especially the further you go back... flash a cupcake theme for a G1 onto an N1 )
Maybe I'm just being cynical but it seems to me that the OP is doing something shady here. He wants to do something that makes no sense and then immediately jumps down the throat of someone who basically calls him for it. His reasoning for why he wants to do this nonsensical thing is also pretty nonsensical. I'd guess he's trying to scam something from someone.
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Maybe I'm just being cynical but it seems to me that the OP is doing something shady here. He wants to do something that makes no sense and then immediately jumps down the throat of someone who basically calls him for it. His reasoning for why he wants to do this nonsensical thing is also pretty nonsensical. I'd guess he's trying to scam something from someone.
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Yes, I completely agree with your first statement. YOU ARE BEING CYNICAL!!!
Ok as an avid lover of my phone (nexus one), I have the right to ask the means of breaking this phone if i'm going to root it and install a ROM which is only supported by the community that helps develop it (that includes primarily folks over at XDA). If you think I'm upto no good, too bad. Assume the worst, do whatever the F*** you want. All I'm trying to do is show my cousin what a bootlooped phone looks like. And apparently each time I am in the process of doing it, he wants to use the pc. He likes killing all the running apps when he's on the PC, and i need to stop him from screwing up something that can potentially f*** up my phone. I often switch from Stock N1 to CM7 to blandroid, and thankfully i follow directions which is why my phone hasn't boot looped til date.
Yes I jumped throat on the 1st person who responded, but look at my response before jumping throat. I didn't really think of the response as condescending, until had posted my answer, hence the edit.
Don't bother posting such crappy posts unless you want to feel like you're getting scolded by the DA's office for wrongful accusation.
C
Well you cannot blame people for coming up with these various speculations. My 2 cents, but you just redirect your energy towards your cousin more rather then get angry over forum post.
The way I see your situation is this. The PC used to flash your phone, who is the owner? If you own it, tell him to wait like a good little boy or he can GTFO of your computer, ban him. Or if the PC belongs to him, maybe it's time you suck it up and respect when and how he wants to use his PC, and flash your phone using another instead. Or maybe get a job and buy your own?
Time to man up. Either you tell him to GTFO of your PC, or you GTFO of his. Simple solution to what I see to a simple matter. No need to complicate things by semi-bricking your phone.
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Either show him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I5XaDAuiEs
OR
Stop trying to make your cousin think he's broken you phone in order to ..
a) get him to pay for a replacement and/or
b) scare the crap out of him
Now that we have a few options for recoveries, it seems the discussion has been getting a little heated as to who's recoveries reign supreme.
I thought I would create this thread so those who have differing opinions can express them here without clogging the dev threads. Battle it out here but please KEEP IT CLEAN! Maybe some good ideas will come out of it. :thumbup:
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Good idea we shall see how this goes lol. I don't get why fans of either one, I personally use Smelkus, bother going into the thread of the other and bashing it. Just stick with your own thread in development lol.
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Good idea we shall see how this goes lol. I don't get why fans of either one, I personally use Smelkus, bother going into the thread of the other and bashing it. Just stick with your own thread in development lol.
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I agree, I have used both and am using TWRP at the moment. I think both are great, but there is always room for improvement... TWRP has a great ui, simple touch screen commands, very user friendly. Smelkus gets right down to the nitty gritty, more wiping options and auto reboot. Good stuff on both.
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be very careful with this kind of thread, there are "fanboys" of each recovery mode.
and you might never get a straight answer but only get "bla blah" answers..
oh and btw, im using smelkus right now, and it never failed me like CWM did.. :highfive:
Another key difference between the two is the ability of RA-based recoveries to flash firmware from within recovery. Additionally, RA-based recoveries still support Amend scripting for the old-school (or "throwback", if you will ). Both of these allow OTA updates to be flashed without having to go back to the stock recovery (if you're on a completely stock ROM, of course).
Graphically and UI-wise, I think most people would agree that TWRP reigns supreme. Some of the features in the new TWRP are just crazy, like the built in Terminal Emulator and File Manager. That's been extremely helpful when I want to flash a PC36IMG zip file from a folder on my sd card, without having to connect my device to a computer. The renaming of backups is also a great feature (though I'd prefer it if the default name was there as a start first, as I typically use the date as the first item to identify my backup).
I do like the group and individual wipes offered by smelkusMOD, though. I would like the ability to wipe each partition (including /boot) in TWRP individually. TWRP really doesn't give you the ability to just wipe /data without wiping /sd-ext too, which doesn't really allow you to keep the apps you have installed there from ROM to ROM if you're using a2sd. This is a minor inconvenience if you only have a few apps, but it becomes a major one if you ext partition is almost full.
I personally think both recoveries are great. I keep a PC36IMG.zip on the root of my sd card at all times that has the latest version of smelkusMOD, while currently running TWRP as my main recovery. In case something goes wrong in TWRP, I can flash back to smelkusMOD with no issue.
P.S. I also use Boot Manager Pro, and I can restore a smelkusMOD-reated nandroid to a BMP slot, while I cannot do so with TWRP. I'm not sure if that's a format thing, or just how the backup files are named. So that's another thing to consider. If smelkusMOD had the same type of touchscreen/scrolling engine that TWRP has, that would definitely bring it up a notch. But I think the existing code would have to be completely revamped to accomodate that, and really there's no reason, because that's why we have variety :good:.
P.P.S. After reading the above post, I hope that my response came off objective, rather than as a "fanboy" response . It's also interesting to me that ClockWork Mod isn't even part of the discussion. To anyone that reads this - there is a good reason for that!!
P.P.P.S. And I hope no one forgets that I was another one that was bricked by the infamous TWRP 2.0, but I was able to recover my device and help at least one other person recover his. You'd think that would've scared me away from TWRP, right? (or maybe I'm just a moron and/or a glutton for punishment). Seriously though, I believe the recovery is working well now, as does smelkusMOD. To each his or her own.
No way capt!!, You obviously not a fanboy, i always think that you will come with a good answers and a good reasons too .. and you did it again!!
thanks for the insight, as for TWRP, perhaps i would try it someday :good:
adityo97 said:
be very careful with this kind of thread, there are "fanboys" of each recovery mode.
and you might never get a straight answer but only get "bla blah" answers..
oh and btw, im using smelkus right now, and it never failed me like CWM did.. :highfive:
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I just hope that those that want to argue and insult the other will come here instead of mucking up the development threads of each. :victory:
HarlanPepper0010 said:
I agree, I have used both and am using TWRP at the moment. I think both are great, but there is always room for improvement... TWRP has a great ui, simple touch screen commands, very user friendly. Smelkus gets right down to the nitty gritty, more wiping options and auto reboot. Good stuff on both.
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I thought of that auto reboot, and I think someone passed it along, but that isn't the point.
TWRP is a great recovery, but smelkus, based on amon ra, still carries the feature to flash amend scripted packages, which is a big deal since a lot of people / devs haven't converted a lot of the files to edify.
teh roxxorz said:
I thought of that auto reboot, and I think someone passed it along, but that isn't the point.
TWRP is a great recovery, but smelkus, based on amon ra, still carries the feature to flash amend scripted packages, which is a big deal since a lot of people / devs haven't converted a lot of the files to edify.
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Interesting... I have not run across an amend script since my days of flashing on the og incredible. .
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HarlanPepper0010 said:
Interesting... I have not run across an amend script since my days of flashing on the og incredible. .
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about 40% of all android developers still use amend scripting. That's a lot of people.
ropodope
What did the five fingers say to the face? Sa la ppa.
I have tried both recoveries and have to say I like smelkus' recovery best. TWRP has a really cool UI, but I love the options in smelkus. If they could make a Smelkus/TWRP recovery, now that would be awesome!
Kendall
Troll switch [-] on.
CWM!!!! Trololol
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Troll switch [-] on.
CWM!!!! Trololol
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Troll is my middle name lol
trolla la la la la!!!!!!
ropodope said:
about 40% of all android developers still use amend scripting. That's a lot of people.
ropodope
What did the five fingers say to the face? Sa la ppa.
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Wow! I thought it was completely phased out... I remember the days of trying to flash a Rom with that damn edify script and it told me no dice... Haha!
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Smelkus for me
i'd throw my hat in the ring for smelkus. twrp has some potential though tho the bricking issue makes me weary (most because i use my phone for work so bricking it wouldnt kill me but would sure cause a huge inconvenience but diff story for diff day )
and i'll second 40 percent being a lot
Both recoveries are outdated to me. Why can't a recovery just know what I want to do, and then do it without me having to push buttons...or touch the screen?
Maybe you guys could add a Siri voice or something that would ask me questions and then do stuff? But it also has to know when not to ask me questions, because too many questions aggravate me. Also, and this is a deal breaker for me...it can't talk when I'm watching football...EVER!!! It needs to just sit there, and wait for a commercial.
I ain't got time for no recovery asking me stupid wipe questions when the game is on...juss sayin'
I'd be interested in trying TWRP, and I know that's it's no longer an issue, but the history of bricking in the older version just makes me fearful of it.
TBH, choices is what makes this community so great, and customization is what users want, so the more choices to customize a device to your own liking, the better
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I'd be interested in trying TWRP, and I know that's it's no longer an issue, but the history of bricking in the older version just makes me fearful of it.
TBH, choices is what makes this community so great, and customization is what users want, so the more choices to customize a device to your own liking, the better
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I say give it a shot hip. I'm using it now and have had no problems. I know a lot of people are wary because of a possible brick, but don't we see the same warning when we flash roms? I mean if we saw a sign on our cars that said "there is a possibility you could crash today" would that stop us from jumping in it everyday? Just sayin...
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spyder3 said:
Both recoveries are outdated to me. Why can't a recovery just know what I want to do, and then do it without me having to push buttons...or touch the screen?
Maybe you guys could add a Siri voice or something that would ask me questions and then do stuff? But it also has to know when not to ask me questions, because too many questions aggravate me. Also, and this is a deal breaker for me...it can't talk when I'm watching football...EVER!!! It needs to just sit there, and wait for a commercial.
I ain't got time for no recovery asking me stupid wipe questions when the game is on...juss sayin'
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I hear they have toilets that "wipe" for you.... Jussayin' :laugh:
Hey there XDA Samsung Galaxy S4 Community, I come to you today to ask, If something should go wrong(mainly a user error) while flashing a new rom/kernel and my phone starts bootlooping like a fruit bowl, is there a fail safe for this phone? Like for the Samsung Infuse 4g no matter what you messed up on the phone all you had to do was put it into download mode and flash stock rom via Oden. It was pretty much unbrickable unless you totally noobed something xD So I was just wondering if this beautiful sex god of a phone had the same fail safe. Get back at me
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Hey there XDA Samsung Galaxy S4 Community, I come to you today to ask, If something should go wrong(mainly a user error) while flashing a new rom/kernel and my phone starts bootlooping like a fruit bowl, is there a fail safe for this phone? Like for the Samsung Infuse 4g no matter what you messed up on the phone all you had to do was put it into download mode and flash stock rom via Oden. It was pretty much unbrickable unless you totally noobed something xD So I was just wondering if this beautiful sex god of a phone had the same fail safe. Get back at me
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Same with the GS4, if you get to download mode, flash back to stock with odin, no issues here.
TheAxman said:
Same with the GS4, if you get to download mode, flash back to stock with odin, no issues here.
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Awesome. I've been wondering that, Now I feel well enough about it to finally flash a ROM on my new baby xD
MaliciousIntent69 said:
Awesome. I've been wondering that, Now I feel well enough about it to finally flash a ROM on my new baby xD
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Whatever rom you choose, just make sure you read, you will be ok, in fact, the hard brick is hard to do on this phone, but it could happen. Good luck
Some of us can testify that soft bricking your device when you start out definitely makes you start reading a lot more. LOL Unless you try flash a rom from a totally different device, you should be able to reboot into recovery and just wipe and restore. If I don't bootloop more than once a week I'm not flashing enough.
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Some of us can testify that soft bricking your device when you start out definitely makes you start reading a lot more. LOL Unless you try flash a rom from a totally different device, you should be able to reboot into recovery and just wipe and restore. If I don't bootloop more than once a week I'm not flashing enough.
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Haha i know exactly how that is xDD I used to be an insane flashaholic on my Infuse 4G mainly because the community for that phone was amazingly large at the time.
+1
Isn't having a bootloop not a part of the process, if your not bootlooping, your not FLASHING enuf! yeah baby.
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if your not bootlooping, your not FLASHING enuf! yeah baby.
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That's a reckless attitude to have toward your $700 device. And that's fine; I'm not here to tell you how to treat your phone. However, I really don't think you should post cavalier comments like that that might teach new users to do the same.
I've owned an HTC Inspire, a Galaxy S2, and a Galaxy S4. I've flashed many roms/kernels/recoveries/modems on all of them, and not once have I ever caused a boot loop. You just have to read, and never do anything before you know exactly what it is you're doing.
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That's a reckless attitude to have toward your $700 device. And that's fine; I'm not here to tell you how to treat your phone. However, I really don't think you should post cavalier comments like that that might teach new users to do the same.
I've owned an HTC Inspire, a Galaxy S2, and a Galaxy S4. I've flashed many roms/kernels/recoveries/modems on all of them, and not once have I ever caused a boot loop. You just have to read, and never do anything before you know exactly what it is you're doing.
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Same here. Never once bootlooped. There's a difference between constantly flashing and correctly flashing.
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Same here. Never once bootlooped. There's a difference between constantly flashing and correctly flashing.
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There's also a difference between flashing things that are untested / should work and things that have been fleshed out so to speak.
I flash a lot of untested stuff (mostly built by others, some by me) and have boot looped my phone at least 10 times since 5 May when u bought it.
Bootloops are not damaging as the software is juat not loading (hence the loop). As long as you dont mess with bootloaders you should b3 fine (and loki is not touching the bootloader just feeding it false info)
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That's a reckless attitude to have toward your $700 device. And that's fine; I'm not here to tell you how to treat your phone. However, I really don't think you should post cavalier comments like that that might teach new users to do the same.
I've owned an HTC Inspire, a Galaxy S2, and a Galaxy S4. I've flashed many roms/kernels/recoveries/modems on all of them, and not once have I ever caused a boot loop. You just have to read, and never do anything before you know exactly what it is you're doing.
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All it is, is a statement saying that you are going to get bootloops, guess you guys are perfect. but they happen, easily recoverable, so I think my statements holds true.
Moving along!
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There's also a difference between flashing things that are untested / should work and things that have been fleshed out so to speak.
I flash a lot of untested stuff (mostly built by others, some by me) and have boot looped my phone at least 10 times since 5 May when u bought it.
Bootloops are not damaging as the software is juat not loading (hence the loop). As long as you dont mess with bootloaders you should b3 fine (and loki is not touching the bootloader just feeding it false info)
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Completely agree and knew that would be the response. But based on their posts it sounded more like ROM hopping than testing.
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Hey folks! I have an Acer A500 that I have been working on "with" dibb_nz over the past week. I have no idea what was on it originally, it came to me nearly dead. After a TON of attempts and hard work from dibb, I now have Skrilax's bootloader and recovery installed. I flashed CM10-10 Flex_V6 ROM from Civato onto the device successfully. Here is the problem: no matter how I boot up, it either goes directly into "Power off - Shutting down" then vibrates and blanks out or, after a fresh install, it will say "Android is upgrading", "Optimizing apps", "Starting Apps", then on to the Power Off-shutting down thing.
Does anyone have any clue what may be going on here? I have tried earlier ROMS, all from Civato, but with the same Power OFF result.
Any help would be MUCH appreciated!
Thanks in advance,
Sharkguy
hey sharkguy, I've been combinf forums and threads with no joy at all, the only thing I haven't checked is the rom thread, might pay you to look thru that, just in case its rom related ( I doubt it really, but there maybe other reports such as yours ) If I ever come across something I'll be sure to get back to you, good luck m8
Calling @Moscow Desire---are you out there Mr Moscow?? Ever heard of something like this before, my friend, very strange....Hope you are well MD its been awhile
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hey sharkguy, I've been combinf forums and threads with no joy at all, the only thing I haven't checked is the rom thread, might pay you to look thru that, just in case its rom related ( I doubt it really, but there maybe other reports such as yours ) If I ever come across something I'll be sure to get back to you, good luck m8
Calling @Moscow Desire---are you out there Mr Moscow?? Ever heard of something like this before, my friend, very strange....Hope you are well MD its been awhile
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Hey Dibb! Offhand, I think it may be the old power part that used to be flashed with stock ROMs. Forget what its actually called. Typically we removed this from the install as its generally not needed. That's a guess, but am at work for the night so can't check my stuff. Could explain the shutdown. But if it shuts down when updating the apps, then its probably bad memory partition.
But I'll lean more towards the power part. Will have to check a stock ICS ROM. Might need to make a separate flash install just for it. It it would boot to the display and it had horrible display and battery issues then that would be it.
Well, that sounds complicated. I should have the new battery by the weekend so let me at least try that before anyone gets all technical. Unfortunately I dont know anyone with another a500 to test batteries...
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Hey Dibb! Offhand, I think it may be the old power part that used to be flashed with stock ROMs. Forget what its actually called. Typically we removed this from the install as its generally not needed. That's a guess, but am at work for the night so can't check my stuff. Could explain the shutdown. But if it shuts down when updating the apps, then its probably bad memory partition.
But I'll lean more towards the power part. Will have to check a stock ICS ROM. Might need to make a separate flash install just for it. It it would boot to the display and it had horrible display and battery issues then that would be it.
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Hey MD good to see u my friend
oh, the eec thing? Rings a bell...
The bad memory partition, do you mean the memory chip itself or just the partition.
I've just never heard of the faulty chip causing a spontaneous shut down, sure has me beat....and I Hate that, lol
But thanks for the response MD, if you can offer any solution from your archives of knowledge and wisdom, I know someone who'd be forever grateful
Have a great day all!!
rgds Donna
Yeah Dib, the eec thing. Just couldn't remember. Usually we just removed that command from the install script as usually once it was flashed at the factory, rarely did you ever have to flash it again. I will have to look and see in the next couple of days. Worth a shot though. Might be able to put it in a CWM install.
Oh, forgot to add @sharkguy
As with a damaged partition, if the memory got hosed in that particular partition, whichever, there's not a whole lot that can be done. Could try running babsector, but not sure if it would fix it or not. There's been success running it before, but only about 30% as I can tell. Devblks can get physically damaged. Usually the partitions are large enough to mark the bad spots as bad, and still be able to install things. That's what babsector did I think as near as I can tell.
A faulty chip "could" cause a shutdown, especially if it couldn't create the dalvak which is kind of the next step when "starting applications" If I guess right, although I would think it would bootloop rather than shut down. As you say, I've never heard of a power off before, unless the eec was bad and it thinks the battery is dead.
I'm just curious if the OP has done a full format on internal memory via CWM? Before installing. Not the usual wipes, but going into advanced, and triggering the full format. I used it after running that CM stuff awhile back, as it messed up everything (lots of testing). Needed a clean sweep of the internal memory.
As you see, I am still around Just with being a senior mod, not a lot of time for messing with things.
I'm still leaning towards eec pwr. (I'm using beer logic at this point)
Bear with me on this. Let's say the eec got hosed somehow. It happens on occasion. And you install several custom roms, which of course don't have eec pwr in the install script as we removed it. Here's what I know.
1) Battery won't charge and is always going to shut down
2) No response on the touch screen if indeed the OS starts.
3. Tab shuts down after OS start.
So you see why I am leaning towards this.
MD
EDIT: The reason why we removed eec from the custom roms to begin with, primarily as it really wasn't needed, but it "could" cause an issue if the flash went bad. But considering the OP has UID and NVFlash, that isn't an issue now.
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Hey MD good to see u my friend
oh, the eec thing? Rings a bell...
The bad memory partition, do you mean the memory chip itself or just the partition.
I've just never heard of the faulty chip causing a spontaneous shut down, sure has me beat....and I Hate that, lol
But thanks for the response MD, if you can offer any solution from your archives of knowledge and wisdom, I know someone who'd be forever grateful
Have a great day all!!
rgds Donna
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Hey MD, thanks for thr insight on my issue. I worked closely with Dibb_nz for close to a week. I am not entirely sure if I did the wipe you mentioned, but believe me, if I could find a way to format, erase, wipe or clear memory I did. Everything you described as what you knew is correct with one exception: if it is relevant the touch screen works in recovery mode.
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Hey MD, thanks for thr insight on my issue. I worked closely with Dibb_nz for close to a week. I am not entirely sure if I did the wipe you mentioned, but believe me, if I could find a way to format, erase, wipe or clear memory I did. Everything you described as what you knew is correct with one exception: if it is relevant the touch screen works in recovery mode.
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Always works in recovery, as it is independent of the OS...
Righto. I figured it didnt matter in this case. But yes, the rest of the facts are as you understand them.
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Hey MD, thanks for thr insight on my issue. I worked closely with Dibb_nz for close to a week. I am not entirely sure if I did the wipe you mentioned, but believe me, if I could find a way to format, erase, wipe or clear memory I did. Everything you described as what you knew is correct with one exception: if it is relevant the touch screen works in recovery mode.
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The FULL wipes as stated in the guide m8 or via fastboot erase.
@Moscow Desire _bab sector was run and successfully, boot loader and recovery installed with no errors.
As far as the eec thing I do have a copy of that in my stash if that's any help, but no idea how to apply it????
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Well at this point I am open to anything. I just passed up on a steal of a deal on a Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 7" so im itching to know I made the right choice. I am at your mercy. Doesnt look like I will have that battery until saturday at the earliest, but so far all of the work I have done on it has been with AC power and has been successful.
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Well at this point I am open to anything. I just passed up on a steal of a deal on a Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 7" so im itching to know I made the right choice. I am at your mercy. Doesnt look like I will have that battery until saturday at the earliest, but so far all of the work I have done on it has been with AC power and has been successful.
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Well m8 I dunno if u made the right choice there, I guess only time will tell...there is this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617196. I cannot recommend it but then my tab has never been in that state...and I'm not sure I could bring myself to put it in the oven lol...u nut wanna take a look at it any way
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Oh I've heard of ppl doing such things, but I'm luckily far mor fortunate than that. I am an electronics technician and have access to far for humane methods than an oven! Maybe I will see if I can still get the deal, then hack the a500 to pieces after geting the new battery in the mail. Lol
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Oh I've heard of ppl doing such things, but I'm luckily far mor fortunate than that. I am an electronics technician and have access to far for humane methods than an oven! Maybe I will see if I can still get the deal, then hack the a500 to pieces after geting the new battery in the mail. Lol
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Well, you'll be in your element then,lol...Yeh, your issue is rather unique...with babsector not returning any error its out of my area of expertise!!! But I do know that Acers build quality isn't the best....from power buttons falling out to the memory chip failure and their dodgy soldering techniques, i'm leaning towards a hardware fault 'somewhere'....
But then, it does seem strange the tab powers off during "updating apps" that points to software doesn't it???? Have look in the guide for fastboot commands (if you still have the unlocked bootloader on there) I'd erase all partitions, /system, /data, /cache etc....then run babsectot again to repartition -flash a rom and see what happens...or use tdv4 to do the same, but no rom flash needed for that as it comes with HC 3.2.1 rooted and cwm.
Anyways m8 keep us updated - and fingers crossed you end up with a positive resolution
rgds Donna
One of the last things I think I did was tdv4 without a rom flash. It still came up with the same issue. I did notice that when I took the battery out to charge on the equipment at work (closely monitored of course) to see if there was an issue with the charging circuit, that I could still do all of the same things as before with just the AC plugged in. No battery. This is why I bought a battery to try that out. The Galaxy 3 guy realized what a steal he was offering me and bumped up his price so it looks like I'm stuck woth the A500.
Thanks for the crossed fingers!!
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Well new battery us in and seems to charge just fine. In fact the tablet would not even attempt to power on before without AC so that is a plus. However, the same thing happens still. Boots up, and as soon as it enters the OS it gies straight to powering down.
What was the EEC thing you guys were discussing? Would it potentially help here?
Thanks again!
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Used all of the elements at my disposal at work to reflow the board without any change in the status of the tablet. Any ideas based on that EEC thing you guys discussed above?
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Well new battery us in and seems to charge just fine. In fact the tablet would not even attempt to power on before without AC so that is a plus. However, the same thing happens still. Boots up, and as soon as it enters the OS it gies straight to powering down.
What was the EEC thing you guys were discussing? Would it potentially help here?
Thanks again!
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Used all of the elements at my disposal at work to reflow the board without any change in the status of the tablet. Any ideas based on that EEC thing you guys discussed above?
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Soz m8 been full on at work to even check emails let alone reply...phew!!!!
As MD pointed out above, the EEC file thing, devs have dealt with that particular issue, but b/c yours is a relatively unique issue I guess it can't be ruled out...
Have you managed to take a look at fastboot and using the erase command to delete EVERYTHING - at least u can be sure its as clean as can be, then using babsector with an appropriate rom and see what happens there.
In that "tab flu" thread there are links to another thread (somewhere) re: eec thing - If you find it can link it here in this thread and I'll track down the file -
Oh, just to be clear - when it boots into to the OS and powers off - is it completely shutting down i.e. power led is off or is it actually booting to apx mode, black screen power lite on...whats the chances of a vid so we can see exactly what it does???
rgds dibb
Sure I can video it for ya, but how should I link it? Can I link to YouTube on these forums?
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Sure I can video it for ya, but how should I link it? Can I link to YouTube on these forums?
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Ok, so new development, so to speak. As you can see from the crappy video I shot just now, I can boot the tablet into the start of the OS, but it hangs at Powering Down. The new part is that I had to manually shut it off, it did not do that itself this time. I showed you the power light (orange) and when I press it again, it does power on, but is still hung up on the same screen. I don't know if that helps any, but now you can see it. By the way, sorry it is upside down, it was the only way to show you the power button after it booted.
http://youtu.be/pG_efbq6DZg
Received the update to Android 7.0 NRD90M (from Preview 5) last night.
Wifi or LTE?
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I enrolled my Nexus 9 LTE in the Beta program and got DP5 yesterday. Today I got the update to full Android 7.0.
I did the same (beta program) 2 hours ago for my N9 WiFi, received the full Android 7 and installed; then removed from beta with no need to reinstall all (I agreed to receive the OTA for a official Android version but nothing is arrived...).
Nexus 9 (WIFI) factory image : https://dl.google.com/dl/android/aosp/volantis-nrd90m-factory-b718f71b.tgz
Nexus 9 (WIFI) OTA image : https://dl.google.com/dl/android/aosp/volantis-ota-nrd90m-5468c87c.zip
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Has any of you awesome followers with more android skill than I, made a TWRP flashable zip with this update?
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not that i've come across but why would you need one? stock img is available from google
edit: you could even take the extremely lazy route (as long as you're on fully stock) and sign into the beta program for N, it updates almost immediately
My device is not recognised for the beta program. Any ideas why. I flashed the full version any way but just curious. Nexus 9 wi-fi.
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My device is not recognised for the beta program. Any ideas why. I flashed the full version any way but just curious. Nexus 9 wi-fi.
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Nexus 9 wifi latest factory image already available on Google developer site.
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not that i've come across but why would you need one? stock img is available from google
edit: you could even take the extremely lazy route (as long as you're on fully stock) and sign into the beta program for N, it updates almost immediately
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It has nothing to do with being lazy... Lol..... It has to do with ADB. I know that I can use ADB and side load this from my PC using TWRP. But usually there is a rooted version out hours after Google releases a new OS. I was just checking to see of anyone made one yet. That's all. I see now that there isn't one so I will wait until one is made and shared. Thank you though for replying to my post.
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Actually .. if you're waiting for someone to post a zip flashable version that's already rooted, instead of just flashing the files with fastboot, then flashing superSu, I'd call that pretty lazy too. Lol
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Actually .. if you're waiting for someone to post a zip flashable version that's already rooted, instead of just flashing the files with fastboot, then flashing superSu, I'd call that pretty lazy too. Lol
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Call it what you will. I am not going to argue with you. I already have it on and rooted, so I'm not lazy. I do video reviews and a large portion of my subs are new to android. I just wanted to try and find an easy to flash, one step process for them to follow but you cant even ask for something like that here without someone doing exactly this. Its a shame really and its no wonder that some people find it hard to enjoy this side of Android. Thank you again for you response.
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Going to have to disagree with you on this one. If you are doing any of this stuff to your device, it's best you know how to fix it if it doesn't work out. IMHO, if you are on the Nexus line, you should be adb/fastboot proficient.
I can understand why people don't like responses like ours, but honestly the world has become way too coddled. People want everything NOW. Answer my question, I don't want to search. For the people who have been around for a while, that gets old. I have no qualms helping people out, but people are overly sensitive to everything. I'm not trying to argue either. Wasn't trying to come off negative, was just being playful. If that gets misconstrued as something that would make people not want to visit this site, then I say they seriously need a dose of reality.
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Going to have to disagree with you on this one. If you are doing any of this stuff to your device, it's best you know how to fix it if it doesn't work out. IMHO, if you are on the Nexus line, you should be adb/fastboot proficient.
I can understand why people don't like responses like ours, but honestly the world has become way too coddled. People want everything NOW. Answer my question, I don't want to search. For the people who have been around for a a while, that gets old. I have no qualms helping people out, but people are overly sensitive to everything. I'm not trying to argue either. Wasn't trying to come off negative either, was just being playful. If that gets misconstrued as something that would make people not want to visit this site, then I say they seriously need a dose of reality.
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Just don't bother saying anything at all then this thread won't get filled up with your disagreements... Or at least just private message them:good:
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Agreed to disagree. I wasn't asking for anything right away or demanding of anything of the sort. I simply asked a question. I searched and did what was required on my part. And I didn't ask you personally for you're help. It was a simple question asked in general. Either there is a yes response or no response at all.
I have also been around for a while and am not new to this forum or android. I know the rules and before I posted I checked. All I'm saying is if there is no help or answer to my question, and there isn't, I go my mary way with no response and I keep searching on my own. I get it. Look at my posts, I don't treaty people like idiots. If I don't have an answer for a post, I Just don't reply. I am not going to waist my day in argument over something this trivial. I am sorry to have disturbed you or anyone one else for that matter in this thread and I sincerely apologize, it's just a shame that it's needed, but I'll respect that since I wasn't the one to start this thread. Again thank you for your reply.
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Was referring to the people you were trying to instruct in your video, not you.
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Just don't bother saying anything at all then this thread won't get filled up with your disagreements... Or at least just private message them:good:
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Not replying has also had people come back to threads mad that nobody replied, lol. It's a dammed if you do, dammed if you don't type situation. *shrug* oh well I guess.
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Call it what you will. I am not going to argue with you. I already have it on and rooted, so I'm not lazy. I do video reviews and a large portion of my subs are new to android. I just wanted to try and find an easy to flash, one step process for them to follow but you cant even ask for something like that here without someone doing exactly this. Its a shame really and its no wonder that some people find it hard to enjoy this side of Android. Thank you again for you response.
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Just thinking out loud, but maybe you are not best placed to pass on your "knowledge" to beginners if you yourself don't know much/enough about the subject?
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Got my update yesterday via OTA . I must say I am slightly underwhelmed by the performance now. Especially Chrome feels much more laggy and sluggish. Scrolling was smoother before.
Anyone else with the same experience?
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Got my update yesterday via OTA . I must say I am slightly underwhelmed by the performance now. Especially Chrome feels much more laggy and sluggish. Scrolling was smoother before.
Anyone else with the same experience?
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I haven't updated yet, so I don't know if the following applies to N, and, since you took the OTA you're probably not interested in a custom kernel, and, I don't even know what kernels are available, but, what the hell, just in case: Chrome was extremely slow for me, too, until I installed ElementalX and set Readahead to 128.
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I haven't updated yet, so I don't know if the following applies to N, and, since you took the OTA you're probably not interested in a custom kernel, and, I don't even know what kernels are available, but, what the hell, just in case: Chrome was extremely slow for me, too, until I installed ElementalX and set Readahead to 128.
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Something went wrong !!
Try factory reset !
Reflash everything via fastboot
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sheenswizner said:
Something when wrong !!
Try factory reset !
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I'm afraid that I don't understand your comment.