[Q] If something should go wrong? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

Hey there XDA Samsung Galaxy S4 Community, I come to you today to ask, If something should go wrong(mainly a user error) while flashing a new rom/kernel and my phone starts bootlooping like a fruit bowl, is there a fail safe for this phone? Like for the Samsung Infuse 4g no matter what you messed up on the phone all you had to do was put it into download mode and flash stock rom via Oden. It was pretty much unbrickable unless you totally noobed something xD So I was just wondering if this beautiful sex god of a phone had the same fail safe. Get back at me

MaliciousIntent69 said:
Hey there XDA Samsung Galaxy S4 Community, I come to you today to ask, If something should go wrong(mainly a user error) while flashing a new rom/kernel and my phone starts bootlooping like a fruit bowl, is there a fail safe for this phone? Like for the Samsung Infuse 4g no matter what you messed up on the phone all you had to do was put it into download mode and flash stock rom via Oden. It was pretty much unbrickable unless you totally noobed something xD So I was just wondering if this beautiful sex god of a phone had the same fail safe. Get back at me
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Same with the GS4, if you get to download mode, flash back to stock with odin, no issues here.

TheAxman said:
Same with the GS4, if you get to download mode, flash back to stock with odin, no issues here.
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Awesome. I've been wondering that, Now I feel well enough about it to finally flash a ROM on my new baby xD

MaliciousIntent69 said:
Awesome. I've been wondering that, Now I feel well enough about it to finally flash a ROM on my new baby xD
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Whatever rom you choose, just make sure you read, you will be ok, in fact, the hard brick is hard to do on this phone, but it could happen. Good luck

Some of us can testify that soft bricking your device when you start out definitely makes you start reading a lot more. LOL Unless you try flash a rom from a totally different device, you should be able to reboot into recovery and just wipe and restore. If I don't bootloop more than once a week I'm not flashing enough.

Phoneguy589 said:
Some of us can testify that soft bricking your device when you start out definitely makes you start reading a lot more. LOL Unless you try flash a rom from a totally different device, you should be able to reboot into recovery and just wipe and restore. If I don't bootloop more than once a week I'm not flashing enough.
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Haha i know exactly how that is xDD I used to be an insane flashaholic on my Infuse 4G mainly because the community for that phone was amazingly large at the time.

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Isn't having a bootloop not a part of the process, if your not bootlooping, your not FLASHING enuf! yeah baby.

TheAxman said:
if your not bootlooping, your not FLASHING enuf! yeah baby.
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That's a reckless attitude to have toward your $700 device. And that's fine; I'm not here to tell you how to treat your phone. However, I really don't think you should post cavalier comments like that that might teach new users to do the same.
I've owned an HTC Inspire, a Galaxy S2, and a Galaxy S4. I've flashed many roms/kernels/recoveries/modems on all of them, and not once have I ever caused a boot loop. You just have to read, and never do anything before you know exactly what it is you're doing.

mattdm said:
That's a reckless attitude to have toward your $700 device. And that's fine; I'm not here to tell you how to treat your phone. However, I really don't think you should post cavalier comments like that that might teach new users to do the same.
I've owned an HTC Inspire, a Galaxy S2, and a Galaxy S4. I've flashed many roms/kernels/recoveries/modems on all of them, and not once have I ever caused a boot loop. You just have to read, and never do anything before you know exactly what it is you're doing.
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Same here. Never once bootlooped. There's a difference between constantly flashing and correctly flashing.
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plwalsh88 said:
Same here. Never once bootlooped. There's a difference between constantly flashing and correctly flashing.
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There's also a difference between flashing things that are untested / should work and things that have been fleshed out so to speak.
I flash a lot of untested stuff (mostly built by others, some by me) and have boot looped my phone at least 10 times since 5 May when u bought it.
Bootloops are not damaging as the software is juat not loading (hence the loop). As long as you dont mess with bootloaders you should b3 fine (and loki is not touching the bootloader just feeding it false info)
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mattdm said:
That's a reckless attitude to have toward your $700 device. And that's fine; I'm not here to tell you how to treat your phone. However, I really don't think you should post cavalier comments like that that might teach new users to do the same.
I've owned an HTC Inspire, a Galaxy S2, and a Galaxy S4. I've flashed many roms/kernels/recoveries/modems on all of them, and not once have I ever caused a boot loop. You just have to read, and never do anything before you know exactly what it is you're doing.
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All it is, is a statement saying that you are going to get bootloops, guess you guys are perfect. but they happen, easily recoverable, so I think my statements holds true.
Moving along!

_Dennis_ said:
There's also a difference between flashing things that are untested / should work and things that have been fleshed out so to speak.
I flash a lot of untested stuff (mostly built by others, some by me) and have boot looped my phone at least 10 times since 5 May when u bought it.
Bootloops are not damaging as the software is juat not loading (hence the loop). As long as you dont mess with bootloaders you should b3 fine (and loki is not touching the bootloader just feeding it false info)
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Completely agree and knew that would be the response. But based on their posts it sounded more like ROM hopping than testing.
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[Q] Hard Reset not Resetting

Hello friends,
For reasons I do not even want to bother to understand, as I am on the waiting list for the Evo 3D and will never again buy any Samsung product, though I would like to have at least basic mobile phone capabilities until the end of June, my Epic has died. It got to the point I would have to remove the battery every 10 minutes and restart. I would get all these Touchwiz errors. So I decided to hard reset, at least so I could have a phone. I'll reinstall apps when I get my Evo 3D. So I removed the SD card, and went to Settings-Security and initiated a hard reset. That was four hours ago and the SAMSUNG logo is appearing as when you restart the device, and staying put. Is the hard reset this long? What should I do? This phone, which I've had since last fall, has been the worst experience of my life, and that doesn't even count the Froyo fiasco of a few months ago. Good riddance to Samsung. I bought a Moto Xoom, which has worked flawlessly over the past month on Honeycomb. It's nice to know that there are some Android devices that don't cause so much pain and suffering that you want to scream as does this horrid Samsung phone. But I need a phone for the next 2 and a half weeks before the Evo 3D makes an appearance, so I would dearly love to know what to do at this point! Thanks in advance.
Hard reset shouldn't take more than 3 or 4 minutes.
Is your phone rooted? Are you on a custom ROM? Do you know how to use ODIN?
Thanks.
poit said:
Hard reset shouldn't take more than 3 or 4 minutes.
Is your phone rooted? Are you on a custom ROM? Do you know how to use ODIN?
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Thanks. I am/was rooted. I do have ODIN but need a refresher.
Roots his phone, has issues, incorrectly tries to do a recovery and it's Samsung's fault...
drplaud said:
Thanks. I am/was rooted. I do have ODIN but need a refresher.
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Recommend you follow the instructions in this thread.:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052813
Read it carefully, Do exactly as it says. Do NOT unplug the phone until they tell you to.
Good luck.
Seems like some people like to generate heat and no light...
gjones77 said:
Roots his phone, has issues, incorrectly tries to do a recovery and it's Samsung's fault...
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I am looking for assistance, not your petty judgment. The root issue had to do with a recommendation from this very forum. Thank you for your non-help. Yet another reason that I wish to leave Samsung forums. I hope Samsung is paying you for your good work.
poit said:
Recommend you follow the instructions in this thread.:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052813
Read it carefully, Do exactly as it says. Do NOT unplug the phone until they tell you to.
Good luck.
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Thank you very much. I will do so, and again thank you for helping rather than criticizing as in that other fellow's reply. Where do those people come from?
The thing is u blame samsung for all of it when it probably was user error. But u don't want to hear that.
"The greatest respect you can earn is self respect" Louie Simmons
drplaud said:
Hello friends,
For reasons I do not even want to bother to understand
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Aka pebcak
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drplaud said:
Thank you very much. I will do so, and again thank you for helping rather than criticizing as in that other fellow's reply. Where do those people come from?
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Just need to mention that my first instinct was to criticize too. It comes from the tone and attitude of your original post. Most of us in this group like our Epics, and in my case it has been the best phone I have ever owned. I have found that the few problems I have had with it have come from my mistakes, installing poorly designed ROMS, etc. I'm back on the stock Sprint ROM and have a rock solid well performing phone. Maybe you have a lemon, but without knowing the history I'm not going to judge.
Anyway, best of luck getting the phone revived.
Got it to work.
poit said:
Just need to mention that my first instinct was to criticize too. It comes from the tone and attitude of your original post. Most of us in this group like our Epics, and in my case it has been the best phone I have ever owned. I have found that the few problems I have had with it have come from my mistakes, installing poorly designed ROMS, etc. I'm back on the stock Sprint ROM and have a rock solid well performing phone. Maybe you have a lemon, but without knowing the history I'm not going to judge.
Anyway, best of luck getting the phone revived.
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I followed POIT's recommendations, and I have my phone back, worked like a charm, thanks. I understand the issues, but this phone has been a challenge. When I got it I was "promised" a 2.2 upgrade within weeks, quickly ran out of space with no ability to put apps on the SD card, and then what ensued was four months of FROYO chaos. Enough. I hope you all enjoy your Epics, shortly I'll be in Evo 3D land, and I think more content.
Once again, to those who helped, many thanks, especially POIT.
drplaud said:
I am looking for assistance, not your petty judgment. The root issue had to do with a recommendation from this very forum. Thank you for your non-help. Yet another reason that I wish to leave Samsung forums. I hope Samsung is paying you for your good work.
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First off, when a person seems to know enough to go and root their phone yet doesn't bother to go about finding the information to setting it back to stock which is a sticky in the dev section, yes I'm going to make note.
When a person goes and creates problems for themselves and then wants to blame the product for their own inability to follow directions and be ready for a failure, that person needs to learn the hard way, I'm sorry ignorance should be painful.
Now, I wish I was being paid by Samsung, hell, I'd take a free WiThin, but alas I'm not, I actually came over from the EVO because I had too many issues with it.
I'm one of the first people to call a company out for a poor product or poor service, in this case the issue arrived from neither, the issue was your own doing.
I made some of the same mistakes and semi-bricked my Epic, I was able to Odin it back to stock by reading how to on this forum, not by posting a thread bashing the Epic because I was too lazy, impatient and ignorant to educate myself.
gjones77 said:
... not by posting a thread bashing the Epic because I was too lazy, impatient and ignorant to educate myself.
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Your quote above speaks volumes about yourself. You do not spend your time assisting others, instead insulting them, calling them names. Apparently this community should be in reverence to someone of your self-described qualities. I am not lazy, a bit impatient, and not ignorant. Perhaps I don't have your skills in searching through archives, but I think the skill you might want to focus on for yourself in the future concerns developing social skills. Why would you want to contribute or be a member of a forum when instead of assisting you decide to deride? I have had many issues with the Epic these past nine months, and God forbid a little bit of my frustration bubbled to the surface. I am about to leave this forum for good (thanking again those who did assist me), and so there will be one less person for you to insult.
This threads abit useless so I have a question.
How do u do Hard reset? My phone locked up once and I held idk what buttons for like 1min and it rebooted. But now idk what or how I did it =(
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Shoulon said:
This threads abit useless so I have a question.
How do u do Hard reset? My phone locked up once and I held idk what buttons for like 1min and it rebooted. But now idk what or how I did it =(
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Use Odin. The hard reset wont help /system/ corruption (TW, etc.). You have to odin or flash a rom at this point. Pull battery, hold 1 on keyboard and power, set up odin/heimdall on computer, plug in phone, flash using odin.
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marcusant said:
Use Odin. The hard reset wont help /system/ corruption (TW, etc.). You have to odin or flash a rom at this point. Pull battery, hold 1 on keyboard and power, set up odin/heimdall on computer, plug in phone, flash using odin.
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soo... there are no reboot steps? like original non smartphones had? (Hold power til ur finger hurts?)
Shoulon said:
soo... there are no reboot steps? like original non smartphones had? (Hold power til ur finger hurts?)
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Oh... on froyo its power, volume up and camera. On GB, there is nothing but a good old fashion battery pull.
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never mind
poit said:
never mind
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believe me i know how you feel... =/
you get thanks cause iknow you tried. =)
idea for ya
drplaud said:
Hello friends,
For reasons I do not even want to bother to understand, as I am on the waiting list for the Evo 3D and will never again buy any Samsung product, though I would like to have at least basic mobile phone capabilities until the end of June, my Epic has died. It got to the point I would have to remove the battery every 10 minutes and restart. I would get all these Touchwiz errors. So I decided to hard reset, at least so I could have a phone. I'll reinstall apps when I get my Evo 3D. So I removed the SD card, and went to Settings-Security and initiated a hard reset. That was four hours ago and the SAMSUNG logo is appearing as when you restart the device, and staying put. Is the hard reset this long? What should I do? This phone, which I've had since last fall, has been the worst experience of my life, and that doesn't even count the Froyo fiasco of a few months ago. Good riddance to Samsung. I bought a Moto Xoom, which has worked flawlessly over the past month on Honeycomb. It's nice to know that there are some Android devices that don't cause so much pain and suffering that you want to scream as does this horrid Samsung phone. But I need a phone for the next 2 and a half weeks before the Evo 3D makes an appearance, so I would dearly love to know what to do at this point! Thanks in advance.
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later man hope the evo treats you better

I just Killed my SII

I tried to put a PIT wih odin on my galaxy and something stucks . I CANT START UP MY PHONE.
-download mode - not working
-recovery mode - not working
-jig - not working
When i plug in the phone get worms
Same posts:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125162
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1183454
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1120692
I tried this tutorial:
http://androidworld.nl/forum/samsung-galaxy-s/16227-odin-rom-litening-rom-v5-odin-editie.html
Any solutions?
your phone is stuffed, first of all you flashed the wrong PIT and firmware for the wrong phone the one you flashed is for Galaxy S not S2, you can try the usb jib but 99% sure it wont work, youll have to send it back to samsung or get it repaired at a repair center
My warranty is lost? And what did happen so wrong that the phone cant go on?
sebyku said:
My warranty is lost? And what did happen so wrong that the phone cant go on?
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Read the post above yours.
You flashed galaxy S software, not galaxy s2. Different software for different hardware.
Its like filling up with diesel when your car runs on unleaded.
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You can try mobile tech videos. They charge $60 for unbricking.
sebyku said:
My warranty is lost? And what did happen so wrong that the phone cant go on?
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You flashed the wrong software and the wrong partition table to it... You should've read up on the links you gave in your first post before flashing. Second if you'd read up on the flashing instructions on this site you would've known not to use a pit file unless absolutely necesary. And finaly when you encounter a file named s1_odin_20100512.pit which clearly has S1 (meaning Galaxy S1) and the date 12-05-2010 (which is before the S2 was even announced) that should've made you a little suspecious as to whether you had the right files.
You can send the phone to Smasung and hope they don't find out what happened. If they don't they'll repair it for free, if they do you're screwd and you'll have to pay for the repair.
ok mate,
u have 1 of 2 options:
1- u need to send it back for the service centre
2- send it for a JTAG service close to ur place
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN7le4GmxZs
Omg, what a waste of a great phone.
Why didn't you actually study everything properly before doing anything like this to a top of the market phone?
Transmitted from a Galaxy far far away via XDA telepathy.
Yet another motivation why I won't bother with Rooting, roms or just flashing in General.
Flashing should be a once a in blue thing, this phone is way to fast, does not need at ALL any speed enhancements, you Should fine just experimenting apps. I highly encourage everyone not to flash daily, enjoy what you have. don't loose $800 for nothing or have regrets.
Extreme184X said:
Yet another motivation why I won't bother with Rooting, roms or just flashing in General.
Flashing should be a once a in blue thing, this phone is way to fast, does not need at ALL any speed enhancements, you Should fine just experimenting apps. I highly encourage everyone not to flash daily, enjoy what you have. don't loose $800 for nothing or have regrets.
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Flashing is safe as long as you are able to read simple text and perform the task without errors by understanding the instructions.
Transmitted from a Galaxy far far away via XDA telepathy.
Extreme184X said:
Yet another motivation why I won't bother with Rooting, roms or just flashing in General.
Flashing should be a once a in blue thing, this phone is way to fast, does not need at ALL any speed enhancements, you Should fine just experimenting apps. I highly encourage everyone not to flash daily, enjoy what you have. don't loose $800 for nothing or have regrets.
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Driving a car is pretty dangerous too
Extreme184X said:
Yet another motivation why I won't bother with Rooting, roms or just flashing in General.
Flashing should be a once a in blue thing, this phone is way to fast, does not need at ALL any speed enhancements, you Should fine just experimenting apps. I highly encourage everyone not to flash daily, enjoy what you have. don't loose $800 for nothing or have regrets.
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I'm pretty sure our devices are idiot proof unless you go about doing absolutely absurd things like flashing the wrong files and repartitioning your device with a table of an other device. If the people would just read the risk is minimal. Like this OP who did his research AFTER bricking, if only he did it before hand. And what gets me the most, in 2 of the 3 threads he links to the answer is present. Wrong pit file need JTAG programming. But yet again instead of reading through the threads he opts to start yet another thread...
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Extreme184X said:
Yet another motivation why I won't bother with Rooting, roms or just flashing in General.
Flashing should be a once a in blue thing, this phone is way to fast, does not need at ALL any speed enhancements, you Should fine just experimenting apps. I highly encourage everyone not to flash daily, enjoy what you have. don't loose $800 for nothing or have regrets.
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No way. I'm totally new to this and it's brain dead simple if you read at all. A million people have said don't use a pit file. But people do it anyway.
GIR said:
I'm pretty sure our devices are idiot proof
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No such thing, no matter what you do someone will make a better idiot. Exhibit A: this thread.
Idiot number 3 with a galaxy S pit, if you are keeping count.
Darwin would be proud
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Extreme184X said:
Yet another motivation why I won't bother with Rooting, roms or just flashing in General.
Flashing should be a once a in blue thing, this phone is way to fast, does not need at ALL any speed enhancements, you Should fine just experimenting apps. I highly encourage everyone not to flash daily, enjoy what you have. don't loose $800 for nothing or have regrets.
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yes i know but people won't listen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1195250
The Post was in deutch .. i just copied the text and put it in google translate ... and i didn`t see in that site .. use only for galaxy s .. sorry my mistake .. i will send it to warranty ..
sebyku said:
The Post was in deutch .. i just copied the text and put it in google translate ... and i didn`t see in that site .. use only for galaxy s .. sorry my mistake .. i will send it to warranty ..
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Good luck with that - your warranty is very much null, void and gone...
sebyku said:
The Post was in deutch .. i just copied the text and put it in google translate ... and i didn`t see in that site .. use only for galaxy s .. sorry my mistake .. i will send it to warranty ..
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Google probably translated it incorrectly because it's Dutch.
B3311 said:
Good luck with that - your warranty is very much null, void and gone...
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Unless they don't notice!
Just say it was a kies update gone wrong!
Then pray

Root

Has it been made possible to root 2.3.4 as of late?
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No. Only downgrading will work. IMO, gingerbread for our phone will never achieve full root and S-off... But I had to downgrade and its not that hard! Go here to downgrade. good luck.
Thanks if I helped
Lol u like your thanks dont you
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Yup.
10 char
Im thinking by the time I get all this downgrading, rooting,and flashing.....ill be due for my upgrade and rockin my sgs2
I originally had the vibrant but broke it aonth ago and am now using a friends backup phone....I learned to temp root this thing then had tmobile update it now im back to this? Lol.....cant wait for april
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All of that should take 30minutes to an hour lol. Not days or weeks
The galaxy s series is so easy to root and flash ....all done without the need for a computer
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Yeah but the mytouch 4g root with a computer is so much more worth it
Shortbus-Driver said:
The galaxy s series is so easy to root and flash ....all done without the need for a computer
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No, after Gingerbread update you have to use a computer with ODIN to root, and once rooted, it's much more painful to flash the idiotic partition system of Galaxy S, requiring you to reflash bootloaders and kernels from PC before flashing the actual ROMs or even for backup restorations, being unable to flash kernel from recovery - because kernel contains the recovery. Actually, if there is a phone that requires PC almost for any type of flashing - that would be Galaxy S.
IMHO, as stated many times - if you can't follow a simple guide to downgrade and root your MT4G, you shouldn't be rooting anyway.
Lmao what a tard
That reply isnt even worthy of a responce....buckle up
Shortbus-Driver said:
Lmao what a tard
That reply isnt even worthy of a responce....buckle up
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@jack_r1 makes a very valid point. rooting this phone when it had 2.2.x was STUPID easy. Easy and quick enough that i had it rooted before i left the T-Mobile Store, when i bought the phone.
The new method is simple. you downgrade then you use one of two VERY simple methods to root your phone.
If you cannot follow directions and need to rely on a one click root. Either based from the phone or on the PC then you shouldn't be messing with SU access.
Shortbus-Driver said:
Lmao what a tard
That reply isnt even worthy of a responce....buckle up
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That's what a clueless person would say, I guess. If you had ever tried to flash anything on Galaxy S type phone, you'd know. Pretty much all the ROM flashing instructions contain ODIN versions and instructions that require flashing at least bootloaders and mostly kernels too (see "Flash a stock Gingerbread ROM" step as an example), for a reason. Moreover, you can try flashing Gingerbread MIUI and then reverting back without ODIN. Good luck.
And whoever messed with rooting and flashing one phone, if he didn't just have to click "root" button on 1-click-rooter of some kind, but at least to work out ADB, wouldn't be afraid of rooting MT4G. I guess your mouth is going far ahead of your knowledge. It's good that rooting became complicated on all phones, because it keeps dummies from messing with things they don't understand.
This is what happens when one is having a friendly conversation with another and a third party joins in with a ” im better than you complex” and runs his/her trap and makes insults for no apperent reason all in his/her very first post .....if you cant be nice and put in helpful info without insult stay out kiddo......or buckle up and enjoy the ride....I dont care either way I deal with dumbasses on a daily basis and your not gonna find my nerve
lol
I dont let children and childish adults get to me lit-alone on a keyboard
Yes you can root and flash a galaxy s without ever touching a comp.
Yes in some cases odin is required,inwhich involves using a comp.....omg Im so sorry ..... Although that was further along than the conversation I was having with invasion....lol you just wanted to come here and play the ”all knowing” part and the ”im also a cyber tough guy” part wich are both laughable and pathetic at the same time.
Now you can stop your childish anticks and allow hair to grow on your balls or continue crying like a little girl.....either way im done with you youve already waisted enough of my time inwhich im certain you were not worth! :-D
Go ahead, feel free to make another attempt to make yourself feel big and bad.....after all thats what you came here to do in the first place.....and seeins as im giving you the oppertunity to have the last word.......nows your chance to turn it around or fail as you so boldly have.
Have a nice day kiddo
Or should I rephrase:
You posted without searching, one of, if not the most posted question on the forum. Then, when you got the response that indicated you as a not-so-brave person, you tried to start bragging to lift your self-esteem, taking this thread off track. Then, when you understood you've got caught bragging, you've read the regular line that shows on these forums 3 times a week - "if you can't follow the guide, you shouldn't be rooting anyway" as a personal insult - and got all cocky and started name calling. When you got paid with the same money, you still keep being cocky.
The funny thing is that I didn't write to catch you on your bragging, I couldn't care less. I just can't stand wrong info, which you happened to be spilling, so I corrected. This is not a private chatroom, there are no "friendly conversations" here. This is XDA-Developers, not XDA-group-hugging-team.
Waste of time, indeed.
Grow up.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ = Burn. I think we should stop arguing.
invasion2 said:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ = Burn. I think we should stop arguing.
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+100
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Thank god this is just a loaner phone.
I guess its true.....that with cheap low quality phones comes cheap low quality followers.....have a nice life lol
...why are you not banned yet?
everything Jack_R1 said is absolutely true.
he is a very great helper, and many people respect him. if you don't have the quality of respect, then i'm sorry, but you must not have been taught any morals.
i COMPLETELY disagree with anything you said. Samsung makes the worst products out there. i mean seriously? WHY DO I NEED TO FLASH MY GALAXY S VIA ODIN OR WHATEVER GARBAGE TO GET A NEW ROM??? that's plain crap! pointless. you must not have very good experience with HTC devices.
let me show you how HTC does it:
Rooting
very easy and simple on most devices, main thing is to obtain S-off.
Flashing
even easier.
this procedure goes for every HTC device out there:
reboot to recovery
make a nandroid backup
wipe
flash
DONE.
what about Samsung?
oooh first you gotta flash the "bootloader" or whatever crap, then the "modem", then this, then that via ODIN, and then you gotta do this this and this, THEN you finally reboot into recovery and flash.
i will let you decide which you think is easier, but don't go about saying that i have "no idea what i'm talking about" because i do. my dad has a Galaxy S, and flashing to that device is complete crap. i don't know WHERE you got that info that "flashing to a Galaxy doesn't require a computer". BECAUSE IT DOES.
stupid ODIN...
anyway, back on point. if you think you're so great and pro, maybe YOU can make an easier way to root 2.3.4 Stock MYTOUCH. cause i think a lot of us would appreciate it. maybe then, you'll be worthy enough to be here. because all you've done so far, is fill up xda with your retarded garbage.
have a nice day.
Shortbus-Driver said:
Thank god this is just a loaner phone.
I guess its true.....that with cheap low quality phones comes cheap low quality followers.....have a nice life lol
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That's cool too. You're welcome for the help. -_____-
saranhai said:
...why are you not banned yet?
everything Jack_R1 said is absolutely true.
he is a very great helper, and many people respect him. if you don't have the quality of respect, then i'm sorry, but you must not have been taught any morals.
i COMPLETELY disagree with anything you said. Samsung makes the worst products out there. i mean seriously? WHY DO I NEED TO FLASH MY GALAXY S VIA ODIN OR WHATEVER GARBAGE TO GET A NEW ROM??? that's plain crap! pointless. you must not have very good experience with HTC devices.
let me show you how HTC does it:
Rooting
very easy and simple on most devices, main thing is to obtain S-off.
Flashing
even easier.
this procedure goes for every HTC device out there:
reboot to recovery
make a nandroid backup
wipe
flash
DONE.
what about Samsung?
oooh first you gotta flash the "bootloader" or whatever crap, then the "modem", then this, then that via ODIN, and then you gotta do this this and this, THEN you finally reboot into recovery and flash.
i will let you decide which you think is easier, but don't go about saying that i have "no idea what i'm talking about" because i do. my dad has a Galaxy S, and flashing to that device is complete crap. i don't know WHERE you got that info that "flashing to a Galaxy doesn't require a computer". BECAUSE IT DOES.
stupid ODIN...
anyway, back on point. if you think you're so great and pro, maybe YOU can make an easier way to root 2.3.4 Stock MYTOUCH. cause i think a lot of us would appreciate it. maybe then, you'll be worthy enough to be here. because all you've done so far, is fill up xda with your retarded garbage.
have a nice day.
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LMAO. ^^^^^^^^^^ = 2ND STRAIGHT BURN!!!
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Lol this is funny ****

Odin & Kies for noobs

The GS3 will be my first Samsung smartphone and I've heard a little bit about Odin and Kies but not really sure what they are. Anybody care to explain them to me?
ODIN good explanation in this thread .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671969
jje
Thank you sir
916x10 said:
Thank you sir
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Read carefully use it with a bad cable or the wrong download and you will have hours of fun trying to wake your phone back up.
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accordex said:
Read carefully use it with a bad cable or the wrong download and you will have hours of fun trying to wake your phone back up.
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Thanks for the heads up. I'm the kind of person who will ask questions just to make sure before I take on such a task since I don't have money to just go and buy another one on a whim if I mess it up so hopefully I'll never run into the wrong download issue. Coming from the A2, we used RSDLite to flash firmwares to our phones, very similar to ODIN although nowhere near as advanced and polished.
916x10 said:
Thanks for the heads up. I'm the kind of person who will ask questions just to make sure before I take on such a task since I don't have money to just go and buy another one on a whim if I mess it up so hopefully I'll never run into the wrong download issue. Coming from the A2, we used RSDLite to flash firmwares to our phones, very similar to ODIN although nowhere near as advanced and polished.
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np... most roms / kernels /...anything flashable will include an md5 check... use that as well...
Another heads up is sometimes op will say remove all ticks from odin... this refers to re-partition auto reboot and reset time...do that but ask first because I've flashed things such as stock factory images that generally need re-partition checked and op will either not mention it or say remove all ticks...
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accordex said:
np... most roms / kernels /...anything flashable will include an md5 check... use that as well...
Another heads up is sometimes op will say remove all ticks from odin... this refers to re-partition auto reboot and reset time...do that but ask first because I've flashed things such as stock factory images that generally need re-partition checked and op will either not mention it or say remove all ticks...
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Oh wow...a bit more involved with these roms and stuff but glad you brought this to my attention. Can't wait to get the first one under my belt so I can get the hang of it.
Is the GS3 unbrickable or not? I read with the GS2 flashing anything with an ICS recovery could brick your phone, because the firmware had a command to destroy certain sectors. Or something like that.
I'm asking because I've also read Samsung phones are pretty much unbrickable, unlike e.g. HTC phones which could get bricked for instance if you pulled the battery while flashing a radio.
ECrispy said:
Is the GS3 unbrickable or not? I read with the GS2 flashing anything with an ICS recovery could brick your phone, because the firmware had a command to destroy certain sectors. Or something like that.
I'm asking because I've also read Samsung phones are pretty much unbrickable, unlike e.g. HTC phones which could get bricked for instance if you pulled the battery while flashing a radio.
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It's always a gamble.... vibrant was unbrickable...then Ics came along and coasted for a while now people are getting bricks due to it destroying the interal sd... my theory is always wait for wrinkles to get worked out...haven't checked in a while but I'm sure it's fixed or being worked on...Either way for the first few months stick with source based roms...
Anything with the word "ported" in it could be risky...eg...miui,cm9 and others.... but yes you will have much better odds with Samsung over other phones as they are much easier to recover.
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Haven't kept up with GS2....
That is really interesting tho...where did you read that? I wonder if Sammy is throwing **** out there to mess up phones?
It always pisses me off when even to this day I read articles about ICS updates and manufacturers stating in official press pieces, the fact that phones like GS1 and equivalents "hardware cannot support" ics...biggest bunch of BS ever...when in fact the ICS ports that have been available for months now, and worked, until the recent problems, have made these phones scream and actually usable with very little lag/annoyances ...they are beyond capable of handling it. It's a marketing ploy and everyone knows it.
They've been called out on it plenty, it just get's swept under the rug for some reason.

Its been a good run.

Well, after some misinformed past rumors, I am finally leaving the Evo. I make this thread not because I feel like I'm 'important' or that anyone will care, but because of the community. Despite the past ICS fallout between users and developers, the Evo community has been one of the best on XDA, and can say that it was nice being apart of it. Made some good friends, and a few enemies, but comes with the territory. I'll still pop in from time to time, but I know I will see some of you in my new home, the Galaxy S III [will be here tomorrow]. Do keep the Evo name standing, as its a great device.
See ya around You know where to find me if you need anything...hahahaha
mazdarider23 said:
See ya around You know where to find me if you need anything...hahahaha
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Oh yea. I'm on the grid...just a different sector.
Well, I'm stuck with an Evo for 6 more months, so I doubt I'll be on the GSIII next, but good times here, mate and thx for everything!
HipKat said:
Well, I'm stuck with an Evo for 6 more months, so I doubt I'll be on the GSIII next, but good times here, mate and thx for everything!
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And the same to you man, you got me on my feet so I could actually 'talk' about MIUI, instead taking a back seat educated speculation.
gtfo noob juust messing i'll be over shortly
Awwww, this makes me sad. I haven't been around much anyway, but I'll still miss you
If I ever happen to be on GTalk, hit me up. I doubt I'll be moving to the S III, but I am eligible for an upgrade so don't know... haven't really done my research yet. Send me a message and let me know how you like it once you've got it broken in.
Even if we don't have the same device, I'm sure I'll see you around. You've taught me a lot, even when you didn't realize it, and no one else has been as nice to me as you have, so thank you.
plainjane said:
Awwww, this makes me sad. I haven't been around much anyway, but I'll still miss you
If I ever happen to be on GTalk, hit me up. I doubt I'll be moving to the S III, but I am eligible for an upgrade so don't know... haven't really done my research yet. Send me a message and let me know how you like it once you've got it broken in.
Even if we don't have the same device, I'm sure I'll see you around. You've taught me a lot, even when you didn't realize it, and no one else has been as nice to me as you have, so thank you.
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No need to be sad, and you can always hit me up on gtalk when you're on. You've got a ton of gold stars now, I've lost count. And I've seen you helping others, when you may not have thought me around. And you're very welcome, I'm glad to hear that...made me smile.
I'm still going to be around here, as I have a horded amount of knowledge...this was my first smart phone, and I think I made a great choice. I'll definitely let you know about the review, and can send you spec info.
plainjane said:
Awwww, this makes me sad. I haven't been around much anyway, but I'll still miss you
If I ever happen to be on GTalk, hit me up. I doubt I'll be moving to the S III, but I am eligible for an upgrade so don't know... haven't really done my research yet. Send me a message and let me know how you like it once you've got it broken in.
Even if we don't have the same device, I'm sure I'll see you around. You've taught me a lot, even when you didn't realize it, and no one else has been as nice to me as you have, so thank you.
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Yeah! Where the hell HAVE you been?? (In my nicest voice)
If you're keeping your Evo you can be like me and be a forum whore lol. I'm on 7 sub forums right now, but only following on a few of them and active on 3. Mostly lurk on the others just for info. You can add me on gtalk of ya want my donation email in my profile is my gtalk name, if u got any questions about Samsung feel free to hit me up. Flashing and such is a little different than HTC and will take some time and questions to get the hang of. Got recovery, Odin and mobile Odin for your flashing needs, no more ruu's and no more unlocking bootloaders with an exploit. Odin takes care of those areas. :beer:
We are legion, for we are many.
-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
If you're keeping your Evo you can be like me and be a forum whore lol. I'm on 7 sub forums right now, but only following on a few of them and active on 3. Mostly lurk on the others just for info. You can add me on gtalk of ya want my donation email in my profile is my gtalk name, if u got any questions about Samsung feel free to hit me up. Flashing and such is a little different than HTC and will take some time and questions to get the hang of. Got recovery, Odin and mobile Odin for your flashing needs, no more ruu's and no more unlocking bootloaders with an exploit. Odin takes care of those areas. :beer:
We are legion, for we are many.
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Oh yea, can do. And actually won't keep the evo [in my possession]; sending it home to my dad. He's on an optimus S and hates it, so big upgrade for him, and will do more than it needs for him. I'm actually pretty good with Odin, rooted a Galaxy S for this girl not too long ago. Odin is different, but its not bad once you get used to it, and mobile odin and triangle away do seem like a good investment.
add me on gtalk anytime, bro
https://plus.google.com/101894158128702445895
Breaks my heart. The guy that enlightened me in the ways of android and taught me everything I know and answered all my dumb question is finally.moving on . I might be joining you also on the gs3 when I have my upgrade in november. Good thing about getting a new phone is meeting and getting to know all the new people in that phones sub forum. So best of luck to you in your journey to a new galaxy
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HipKat said:
add me on gtalk anytime, bro
https://plus.google.com/101894158128702445895
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*Salutes* Shall do
evo4gnoob said:
Breaks my heart. The guy that enlightened me in the ways of android and taught me everything I know and answered all my dumb question is finally.moving on . I might be joining you also on the gs3 when I have my upgrade in november. Good thing about getting a new phone is meeting and getting to know all the new people in that phones sub forum. So best of luck to you in your journey to a new galaxy
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No worries man; you've learned a lot. And I'm still gona be here to help out. I'm free this weekend, you can pwn me in some MW3...lol. And you'll have some friends waiting for you.
But at this moment *new futurama*
teh roxxorz said:
Oh yea, can do. And actually won't keep the evo [in my possession]; sending it home to my dad. He's on an optimus S and hates it, so big upgrade for him, and will do more than it needs for him. I'm actually pretty good with Odin, rooted a Galaxy S for this girl not too long ago. Odin is different, but its not bad once you get used to it, and mobile odin and triangle away do seem like a good investment.
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Best investment you can make on a galaxy device man, should be the first apps you purchase once you decide you're keeping the device. Yea Odin is a bit tricky at first, the things you'll probably have more questions with are the dreaded brick bug(idk if the sgs3 is plagued with that nuisance or not, I hope not) and how to avoid it, since its a permabrick if it hits you. The whole method of doing stuff on Samsung is just alien when coming from HTC. Took me a few weeks b4 I was back to flashing like a junkie again with out reading and rereading every step over and over prior to trying something new. I've had a few months with the sgs2 now so if you have questions about samsungs whole crazy zimage/recovery and how recovery is baked into the kernel and changes every time you change kernels I'm more than happy to answer em the best I can or point you in the direction of your answers atleast. :thumbup:
We are legion, for we are many.
-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Best investment you can make on a galaxy device man, should be the first apps you purchase once you decide you're keeping the device. Yea Odin is a bit tricky at first, the things you'll probably have more questions with are the dreaded brick bug(idk if the sgs3 is plagued with that nuisance or not, I hope not) and how to avoid it, since its a permabrick if it hits you. The whole method of doing stuff on Samsung is just alien when coming from HTC. Took me a few weeks b4 I was back to flashing like a junkie again with out reading and rereading every step over and over prior to trying something new. I've had a few months with the sgs2 now so if you have questions about samsungs whole crazy zimage/recovery and how recovery is baked into the kernel and changes every time you change kernels I'm more than happy to answer em the best I can or point you in the direction of your answers atleast. :thumbup:
We are legion, for we are many.
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Much appreciated man, and actually been doing some reason: the kernel and boot image on the G S III were separated so its actually a lot safer to root. In addition I've looked up the G S III root [international version] and actually QUITE painless, even using Odin. Since there were minimal hardware specs, aside from processor of course, but I believe the root will be the same or extremely similar. I originally was going to buy the original galaxy S, but I refused to get the epic with a hard keyboard, so I went with the Evo; though not like it was a bad choice.
teh roxxorz said:
Much appreciated man, and actually been doing some reason: the kernel and boot image on the G S III were separated so its actually a lot safer to root. In addition I've looked up the G S III root [international version] and actually QUITE painless, even using Odin. Since there were minimal hardware specs, aside from processor of course, but I believe the root will be the same or extremely similar. I originally was going to buy the original galaxy S, but I refused to get the epic with a hard keyboard, so I went with the Evo; though not like it was a bad choice.
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That's cool they seperated the kernel from the recovery now, on the ET4G there's no normal boot.img its called a zImage and has the kernel and recovery in the same partition so flashing a kernel changes your recovery. It can get quite confusing going from rom to rom and build to build and having to remember which recovery which backup was made with so you can Odin it to restore we still don't have official ICS or kernel source yet so flashing ICS roms requires first flashing a GB kernel with pure CWM to avoid a blue light of death brick. Talk about confusing, it took me a week of reading before I had the balls to try ICS but now I can mOdin el26+cwm kernel and flash ICS in my sleep. I've been running aokp since march never went back to gb except the few times I bootlooped and had to Odin to el29(latest GB ota) and start fresh. Once you get a feel for it and get any questions you have lingering out of the way its painless but the first few times you're sweating missles waiting to it to flash and boot and praying you didn't just brick, LOL. My first venture to ICS I chewed off all my nails while flashing it, I was so nervous I forgot something and was gonna fry my eMMC chip and be bricked.
ETA: what's even worse for me is I have 4 different manufacturers devices all different methods of flashing and its hard keeping it all straight, going from HTC, to Amazon to Motorola to Samsung and trying to remember which one you flash how is an exercise in frustration :banghead:
We are legion, for we are many.
-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Best investment you can make on a galaxy device man, should be the first apps you purchase once you decide you're keeping the device. Yea Odin is a bit tricky at first, the things you'll probably have more questions with are the dreaded brick bug(idk if the sgs3 is plagued with that nuisance or not, I hope not) and how to avoid it, since its a permabrick if it hits you. The whole method of doing stuff on Samsung is just alien when coming from HTC. Took me a few weeks b4 I was back to flashing like a junkie again with out reading and rereading every step over and over prior to trying something new. I've had a few months with the sgs2 now so if you have questions about samsungs whole crazy zimage/recovery and how recovery is baked into the kernel and changes every time you change kernels I'm more than happy to answer em the best I can or point you in the direction of your answers atleast. :thumbup:
We are legion, for we are many.
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Having dev'd on the Moment, I remember the zimage! Actually the best way to work with adding a kernel to a ROM
HipKat said:
Having dev'd on the Moment, I remember the zimage! Actually the best way to work with adding a kernel to a ROM
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Its just a pain in the ass for recovery, only because every time you change kernels if the new one has a different recovery your recovery then changes. On the et4g we have cwm, rogue and acs custom recoveries, and not all backups are compatible across all recoveries so you gotta try and keep track of what goes with what since we have to use the el26 kernel with pure cwm recovery to safely flash ICS without bricking I use it for everything recovery, but that requires me to Odin the el26 kernel everytime I need to do something in recovery and since I run ICS I then have to flash an ICS kernel to reboot my phone. Its more of a hassle/annoyance than anything just cuz of all the extra steps required to flash/backup etc
We are legion, for we are many.
Do not forget us! Do not forget us! Good Luck in that new Galaxy.
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