[Q] Does build.prop quickpoweron work? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello everyone, I'm a newbie here so please do correct me if I'm posting in the wrong section or the wrong format, etc. I want to play by your rules!
Every time I boot my phone it takes very long - usually about 53 seconds. I know I have way too many apps (178 user ones last time I checked) but I still think that's too slow. I read about a build.prop tweak that enables the "quickpoweron" setting, like some Samsung devices have built in. I would try it out, but I've already bootlooped my phone once after I made some other changes to build.prop, so I'm reluctant to bootloop it again and go through the pain of restoring a backup. Does anyone have any experience of mixing a CM11 M9 Nexus 4 and "ro.config.hw_quickpoweron=true"? If anyone has, I'd like to know:
Does it work - will it bootloop the phone?
Is it worth it? What (if any) is the speed improvement - before/after?
Is there anything else I ought to know before doing it - any negatives?
Many thanks in advance to anyone who can help me out here with any experience! I appreciate it greatly!
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Rooted Nexus 4 (Mako) 16GB
CM11 M9
CWM 6.0.5.0

pmedwards25 said:
Hello everyone, I'm a newbie here so please do correct me if I'm posting in the wrong section or the wrong format, etc. I want to play by your rules!
Every time I boot my phone it takes very long - usually about 53 seconds. I know I have way too many apps (178 user ones last time I checked) but I still think that's too slow. I read about a build.prop tweak that enables the "quickpoweron" setting, like some Samsung devices have built in. I would try it out, but I've already bootlooped my phone once after I made some other changes to build.prop, so I'm reluctant to bootloop it again and go through the pain of restoring a backup. Does anyone have any experience of mixing a CM11 M9 Nexus 4 and "ro.config.hw_quickpoweron=true"? If anyone has, I'd like to know:
Does it work - will it bootloop the phone?
Is it worth it? What (if any) is the speed improvement - before/after?
Is there anything else I ought to know before doing it - any negatives?
Many thanks in advance to anyone who can help me out here with any experience! I appreciate it greatly!
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XDA Newbie
Rooted Nexus 4 (Mako) 16GB
CM11 M9
CWM 6.0.5.0
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No harm done, no bootloop. Phone starts just fine running android L preview. If you don't mind anecdotal evidence, my phone did seem to boot slightly quicker. I'm not willing to spend the time to clock how fast it boots with/without the build.prop edited, though...too much hassle for how far I'm willing to go for this, since it's probably only 10 seconds, at best.

Thanks
Thanks for the advice, on the first boot I got a bootloop. On the second boot (out of recovery) I didn't time it but it was quite quick. On the third boot (normally) it was 1:03. Odd.

Probably just a placebo effect, unfortunately. I would just let the device do its thing on boot up
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[Q] Hacksung 6.1 WiFi issues...n00b in need of help

Issue resolved. Thank you to neh4pres, icemanwbs, and wonshikee for helping me.
____________________ Issue Below ____________________
This is my first time rooting and flashing a new Rom to a phone. I just upgraded to the Galaxy Nexus, so I decided I would explore the world of rooting and flashing new roms with my Samsung Fascinate on Verizon before jumping into it with my new phone.
I followed the guide at:
Code:
exzacklyright.blogspot
.com
/2012/01/how-to-flash-ics-on-verizon-samsung
.html
I followed every step and the phone seems to work smoothly, but the data will not work. I can sucessfully connect to my home wifi and other wifi and I even see the little arrows that indicate data exchange, but the icon never turns blue (that's the connected color on my Nexus) and I can not view web pages or even add my google account.
I am not planning on activating the device on Verizon, but I would like to use it as a media player and browse the web when my Nexus is low on battery and charging.
I've tried searching around and found 2 others who made the same report, but no one responded. I see that something at
Code:
androtransfer
.com
/tk-glitch/CM9-kernels/Glitch/Fascinate/
is helping people get data, but it sounds like 3G data on Cricket Wireless is what that is repairing...
Could someone please help or make recommendations?
Did you flash ths build 2 before ths build 6.1? And let it boot between them? if you did that..then the next thing i would suggest is doing data, cache, and dalvik cache and reflash the ROM.. Be sure to get to recovery using the power menu.. On these roms you can no longer 3 finger to recovery or things go bad! .. GL
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NM I need to read better
I would also highly recommend you look up Droidstyles guide.
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I had the same exact issue with 6.1.
Just flash 6.0, 6.1 is pretty buggy.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/16630-romicsiml74k-teamhacksungs-ics-port-for-fascinate-build-61-0201/
The link is in the first post.
Thank You
Thank you. I tried wiping the various things and reflashing 6.1, but it didn't work and for some reason I couldn't download 6.0. I switched to AOKP and it seems to function well now, although it doesn't feel as snappy as Hacksung for some reason. Thank you for your help and suggestions. I think I'll be trying out new ROM versions on a regular basis

Now I'm rooted, what next?

So I took a big leap and rooted my tablet this morning. I've installed Titanium Backup and GMD Gesture, and also AdAway and AppQuarantine. What other great things can I do? I love trying new things. Any suggestions from you experts? I would be very grateful!
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Flash a custom ROM.
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ÜBER™ said:
Flash a custom ROM.
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Download and do either of the following for a full backup...
the best way to do a complete and full backup of your device.. There are two methods
1 most common
download ROM MANAGER
you can from in this app install a custom recovery on your device..
Boot into the custom recovery and do a full anand backup. you can also flash other custom roms (custom android os)
2 what i use..
download goo manager beta from play store
in go manager click menu at top choose install open source recovery . follow prompts . It will download and install
same as step one you can boot into recovery from goo manager Its big botton fully touch base . And you can backup and restore as well as flash custom roms...
NOW WITH THE ABOVE SAID PLEASE READ thru the forums related to roms rom manager Custom recoveries .. and so on .. this will save you some troubles later .. anything you need to know or not understand Just ask We are here to help.
Cool, thanks! Could you point me to the best place for explanations about roms? XDA is huge and I am not sure where to look... Cheers!
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ÜBER™ said:
Flash a custom ROM.
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And then eventually, try out some custom kernels. Although be warned, you may discover a new hobby and become a crack flasher
I usually don't keep any one ROM and kernel on my tablet for more then a week (average is 2 days). I'm trying to resist flashing PARANOIDANDROID 1.992 since I heard 2.0 is around the corner.. not sure how long I can hold out though
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I'm ****ing dumb, thought this was GN for some reason.
thebobp said:
Logo Me
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it doesnt work with the seven. at least ezekeel(developer) said that it cant be implemented on the nexus 7.
simms22 said:
it doesnt work with the seven. at least ezekeel(developer) said that it cant be implemented on the nexus 7.
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My bad. (Too bad as well, but meh.)
Edit: some (though not all) of these inverted apps work, if you swing that way. Once again, they were made for the GN
thebobp said:
My bad. (Too bad as well, but meh.)
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yea, i know. he asked me what mods he should port to the nexus 7 since he just got one, my answer was logo me right away. then he disappointed me by saying its not possible seeing how the bootloader is encrypted
To find roms on xda
Xda is a very organized web site for the most part finding them is easy. deciding which one is not so much
rom actually means read only memory.. But we will skip the tech stuff for now..
Here on the device development forums Rom is referred to mostly as a custom built Operating system for your device .
these can be built by one person or a team of developers . Most have tweaks and customization's a bit above and beyond the stock experience. ITS BEST before flashing any new rom is to into the forum thread of the rom read developer info and the comments made on the thread. Many roms have experimental software apps and tweaks.. Not all roms are perfectly stable..SO FINDING one that has what you are looking for is just a matter of reading and trial and error.
Most roms. well all you see anymore Come with a kernel. (The linux part of android .. Kinda whats under the hood) . Be sure to pay attention to this and the information. Some add features some over clock .
we have here for the n7 several types of roms .
original development .. these are based on the custom operating system pushed by google
custom based on the above but often has alot more customization's and kernel tweaks More likely to have buggs . but often faster and take up less storage space on device.. as well as having a personal twist for the developer on apps installed customization's and themes
I never give advice on what to use just go in the development section and start reading .
Be sure before you flash anything on your tablet know what it is and how to get out of it Back to stock and Have your backups backed up...
ALWAYS HAVE A WAY OUT FIRST..
Good Luck
So I am now on Paranoid Android, trying out the different Workspaces. Thanks for the help!
But I don't understand what Paranoid Android does. What does "This rom lets you scale and project every app, every widget, even systemcomponents individually" mean in every day language?
Also, could someone explain where, in tablet mode, the three dots are for the settings of many apps. They seem to be covered by the status bar. How does one access them? Would be grateful for help as I really like the small tablet mode.

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If you don't feel this applies to you, please move onto the Nexus 7 links further down this post.
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5. [Index]- 28 Jan 2013 - All for NEXUS 7 - "Nakasig/Tilapia" - (GSM/HSPA+)
6. NEXUS 7 3G-"nakasig"-For all Your Jelly Bean Discussions, Problems and Solutions
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[SIZE=+3]Frequently Asked Questions[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+2]ASUS GOOGLE NEXUS 7 – GROUPER & TILAPIA (WiFi & 3G)[/SIZE]​
[SIZE=+1]This a short list of frequently asked questions in this device forum and the answers often given as a response. It should serve as a starting point for gathering knowledge and finding solutions to many common problems. Please only post in this thread with feedback on how to improve this document. Do not post "Thank you" type responses. If you have additional questions or require more help, try to find an existing thread or create your own. Do not use this as a general help thread.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Q1: Do I need a toolkit to root this bad boy?....?[/SIZE]
Its a Nexus, imo if you need a toolkit you're either not experienced enough for rooting or too lazy Toolkits are out there and they are really straight forward, but you should get to know how to use fastboot/adb in case you need it. If you don't know what you're doing, you shouldn't be mucking around with your $200+ toy in case you screw something up and don't know how to use ADB or fastboot to restore it​
[SIZE=+1]Q2: I'm thinking of getting this device/I'm new to this device. What are the main problems i should look out for? [/SIZE]
Look through the following threads - Nexus 7 defects? - List of known faults.​
[SIZE=+1]Q3: Which ROM/kernel/recovery etc. would be the best choice for me? [/SIZE]
No-one can answer this for you. We all have our favorites, so just test different ones out and see which you prefer.​
[SIZE=+1]Q4: When I flash my first custom ROM, how come I get stuck in a bootloop? [/SIZE]
While it's recommended that you always do a full wipe before installing, you HAVE to do a full wipe before installing your first ROM. If you don't, you N7 will not boot up.​
[SIZE=+1]Q5: I flashed a new kernel and when I change frequencies, it reverts to stock settings 1.3GHz after a while. WHY??? [/SIZE]
You need a patched PowerHAL. On a very basic level, after a while the stock google PowerHAL likes to revert a lot of settings to stock. This includes the CPU clock speeds, etc. I got my PowerHAL from here
http://imoseyon.host4droid.com/grouper/beta/
And I flashed the nofreq one. It will NOT change your frequency, ever. After you flash the PowerHAL, use your favourite app (I like tricksterMOD, but support your devs by buying their apps) to set your kernel settings, and set them on boot. This is the easiest way to get settings to stick.
OR
You could use an init.d script to set a maximum clock speed. This way, you will need a kernel/ROM that supports boot.img.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35493253&postcount=1366
This is a lot more difficult but it works ​
[SIZE=+1]Q6: How much overclocking is too much? Am I damaging my device? [/SIZE]
No chips are created equally. Some can take more OC than others. It is fact that too much OC can shorten the life of your CPU. A general rule I have seen used a lot is to not go around 20-30% over the stock speed. That is around 1.5GHz which most kernels get up to. However, a lot of devices can take more and will go higher. See for yourself, just don't be stupid ​
[SIZE=+1]Q7: What is the difference between x and y kernel governors/schedulers? [/SIZE]
See here: [GUIDE]Kernel Governors and I/O SCHEDULERS
[REF][TWEAKS] Kernel Governors, Modules, I/O Schedulers, CPU Tweaks, AIO App Configs​
[SIZE=+1]Q8: I tried to boot my device into recovery from the bootloader and now it is stuck on the google screen. Is it bricked? [/SIZE]
No. Probably not. Chances are you're on an old bootloader, which has a bug that doesn't allow you to get into recovery from the BL without being connected to a computer. So, connect it to your computer, hold vol down/power for 10 secs to go back to the bootloader. You can go to the recovery from there.​
[SIZE=+1]Q9: On my HTC (whatever) I could transfer files onto my sdcard while in recovery. How do I do it on the N7? [/SIZE]
You can't drag/drop in recovery between your N7 and a PC. Either boot into android and transfer your files, or use ADB while in recovery.
"adb push nameoffile /data/media" or wherever your things are (beware of how many 0's there are on your sdcard).​
[SIZE=+1]Q10: My files on my "sdcard" appear under /data/media/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0. WHY so many 0's?? [/SIZE]
Ask Google. It’s got to do with the multiuser feature brought to android in 4.2. Ever user has their own folder, so you might have /0 and /1. If you're having troubles with it in recovery, I would update to the latest TWRP.​
[SIZE=+1]Q11: I’m trying to update my stock rooted modded N7 to 4.2 from 4.1.2 but it won't work. Help? [/SIZE]
You need to be running completely stock to update. So, you need to either flash a stock ROM or the stock image.​
[SIZE=+1]Q12: When I finish watching a video the screen goes weird. Its like, washed out or something. Is my device bricked? Is my screen bricked? [/SIZE]
No. Its the tegra smartdimmer. When your device is playing a video, the Tegra 3 automatically bumps up the contrast and dims the backlight, to save battery. This is a feature. To turn it off, either use a script or tricksterMOD (which is much easier).​
[SIZE=+1]Q13: Battery life on this kernel/ROM sux. I've been using it for half an hour and its dropped 30% already. Why? Restoring to my old kernel..[/SIZE]
When you flash a new ROM/kernel, you need to give it a few battery cycles before battery is reported accurately. So, flash the new kernel, drain it (not necessarily to 0%), charge it fully, drain it again, charge, then play around. Do not complain about battery or anything without doing a few cycles first.​
[SIZE=+1]Q14: I am about to flash another ROM. Do I have to full wipe or can I flash it on top? (Dirty flash).[/SIZE]
Usually you can probably dirty flash. But if it causes problems, don't report them. Best thing to do is to reflash the ROM with a full wipe and see if bugs persist. I always wipe when changing to a different ROM, but when updating a ROM i don't wipe usually.​
[SIZE=+1]Q15: Should I unlock the bootloader when I get the tablet if I am going to root it anyway?.[/SIZE]
I would say no. Because, if there is a problem you have sort of voided your warranty. I like to keep my devices for a month without rooting/unlocking them in case there is a fault or something. You should do the same, I’d hate to have a brand new device, root it and then find a fault and have voided your warranty. Companies can be sneaky and can probably try to avoid fixing your device under warranty if you tamper with it. However you could always relock and revert to stock, but it is much easier to be patient and make sure there are no problems ​
[SIZE=+1]Q16: Will rooting my tablet make it faster/awesomer and have improve battery life?[/SIZE]
Short answer: no.
Long answer: nope.
Rooting alone will not change anything relateds to battery or performance. However custom ROMs, kernels and other mods will change things. For example flashing a more optimised kernel might improve performance, especially if you overclock it. Similarly, underclocking generally improves battery life. Of course it depends on what crap you have on your device too, but that's the general idea. Usually in the OP of a ROM/kernel thread, and in the comments you can get a good idea on whether it is optimized for battery, performance or a combination.​
[SIZE=+1]Q17: What’s difference between N7 “Grouper – Nakasi” and N7 3G “Tilapia – Nakasig”?.[/SIZE]
Wi-Fi (all models) = Nakasi - Grouper
3G/Wi-Fi = Nakasig - Tilapia
The Nakasi/Nakasig is the image (operating system)
and
the Grouper/Tilapia is the hardware build.
Because one of the files for the phone call apk is named "tilapia"
assert(getprop("ro.product.device") == "tilapia"
getprop("ro.build.product") == "tilapia".​
[SIZE=+1]Q18: Can I use same recovery for N7 “Grouper” and N7 3G “Tilapia”? [/SIZE]
Yes, but it is preferable to use a special recovery for the tilapia. You will find 3 special recoveries for Tilapia.​
[SIZE=+1]Q19: What's the difference between "Development" and "Original Development"?[/SIZE]
Here are the rough guidelines as to what should be placed in "Original Development":
*Official release of highly original and upstream custom ROMs (built from the ground up with significant original development within them).
*Official releases/development of such original ROMs, perhaps posted by the maintainer or their nominated person.
*A significant "first" in development for a device. This is something which took considerable time/effort and is generally accepted by developers to be non-trivial.
*Kernels which are built with beneficial changes that are not simply pulled from other kernels already available.
*Tools and utilities with a clear purpose, and which are well-made, and useful to users. They should have an element of originality, either in purpose or through significant improvement in the means of operation.
*Significant port of a ROM from one device to another, giving enhanced features or functionality to the users of the target device.
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Good thread, make it a sticky !
At least good helpers will be honoured ^_^ !
Since this thread is for newbie I want to ask , can i use franco kernel on N7 3G 32GB?
nazz.rule said:
Since this thread is for newbie I want to ask , can i use franco kernel on N7 3G 32GB?
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There is a difference in being new and being spoon fed. You will find your answer in the Franco kernel thread.
Cheers Danny
nazz.rule said:
Since this thread is for newbie I want to ask , can i use franco kernel on N7 3G 32GB?
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Yes you can
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Thanks to Moscow Desire, this thread is now stickied so hopefully it will be able to help as many people as possible
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I got my nexus 7 yesterday and updated it immediately to 4.2.1. All good so far. I start using and all goes well until I remember "this thing has the swipe keyboard, right?". I start swiping and nothing happens. Check the settings, it is on. Boot the device, no effect. Enable and disable the thing and boot the tablet a few times more, still no go.
At this point I decided I'll fix that later and made another user account for my GF to use. I immediately notice that the swipe typing works on that account just fine. I check the settings and looks like it's on by default. I go back to my own profile and check the settings again, but still no go.
Any ideas?
badmoj0 said:
I got my nexus 7 yesterday and updated it immediately to 4.2.1. All good so far. I start using and all goes well until I remember "this thing has the swipe keyboard, right?". I start swiping and nothing happens. Check the settings, it is on. Boot the device, no effect. Enable and disable the thing and boot the tablet a few times more, still no go.
At this point I decided I'll fix that later and made another user account for my GF to use. I immediately notice that the swipe typing works on that account just fine. I check the settings and looks like it's on by default. I go back to my own profile and check the settings again, but still no go.
Any ideas?
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Its definitely checked on your account?
Try this one as a quick workaround
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35596988
Sent with swag from my Kanged Nexus 7
Thanks for the tip. I tried that, but settings crashes every time I try to enable the PC layout keyboard.
I'm gonna do a factory wipe since the tablet is still almost on default anyway.
edit: Ok did reset and everything works just fine now. Now just wait for play store to install all the apps back
I have just got my new Nexus 7 and I want to root my N7 with Wug's root toolkit. I was thinking if I just don't check the box: flash custom recovery. Can I then just do the OTA updates? Because I don't want to install a Custom Rom.
Hi guys!
Just got a stock unrooted unmodded N7 32GB with build JZO54K. On first boot it found the OTA update to 4.2.1 so I happily accepted the update. A few minutes into the upgrade process I get the "dead" droid with the triangle, guess something went wrong. It boots up again into JZO54K and works fine.
I can force another attempt at the update by stopping and clearing the data for Google Services Framework and searching for updates again, but with the same results.
Am I missing something? Would like to try pure AOSP before going CM on this little beauty
How to root Nexus 7 without toolkit?
Root Nexus 7 must flash the CWM or other recoveries? In the menu of "Google Nexus 7 TOOLKIT V4.0.0", I found the button "Root" and the check "and flash recovery...". Does it mean I can root the machine without flash any recovery? Thanks.
AngryGamer025 said:
I have just got my new Nexus 7 and I want to root my N7 with Wug's root toolkit. I was thinking if I just don't check the box: flash custom recovery. Can I then just do the OTA updates? Because I don't want to install a Custom Rom.
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If you've only rooted you can do ota's. Just as long as you don't change ANYTHING in the /system partition like installing flashable zips
frdd said:
Hi guys!
Just got a stock unrooted unmodded N7 32GB with build JZO54K. On first boot it found the OTA update to 4.2.1 so I happily accepted the update. A few minutes into the upgrade process I get the "dead" droid with the triangle, guess something went wrong. It boots up again into JZO54K and works fine.
I can force another attempt at the update by stopping and clearing the data for Google Services Framework and searching for updates again, but with the same results.
Am I missing something? Would like to try pure AOSP before going CM on this little beauty
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Sure its completely stock? If it is, it should work... If you be got any more troubles ask Google
If you want pure AOSP there are ROMs for that you can flash, if you root
tmbu said:
Root Nexus 7 must flash the CWM or other recoveries? In the menu of "Google Nexus 7 TOOLKIT V4.0.0", I found the button "Root" and the check "and flash recovery...". Does it mean I can root the machine without flash any recovery? Thanks.
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You can root by having all the right superuser binaries etc
But its easier to flash the recovery, and then flash the latest superuser/ supersu zip.
Sent with from my Asus Nexus Unicorn
markj338 said:
You can root by having all the right superuser binaries etc
But its easier to flash the recovery, and then flash the latest superuser/ supersu zip.
Sent with from my Asus Nexus Unicorn
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Thank you for reply. I can understand your second sentence, but I can't understand the first one. Can you say something more? I just want to root the machine without any toolkit and recovery.
tmbu said:
Thank you for reply. I can understand your second sentence, but I can't understand the first one. Can you say something more? I just want to root the machine without any toolkit and recovery.
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I would recommend flashing the recovery in order to get everything working properly, and to easily recover if something goes wrong
I was wondering whether it's possible to share files between the different users of the same N7? For instance to make video or music files available regardless of who is logged in.
I don't seem to be able to find anyone even discussing this anywhere at all.
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opticon78 said:
I was wondering whether it's possible to share files between the different users of the same N7? For instance to make video or music files available regardless of who is logged in.
I don't seem to be able to find anyone even discussing this anywhere at all.
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The closest option to that is Multi-User App Share. It doesn't have the ability to share files though. Maybe the creator will make it possible in a future update though
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I have seen it in the play store, but I'm not sure how that would make sharing files within the tablet possible, and since it requires rooting I can't even try it unfortunately.
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[For Newcomers]Please read this-might be helpful

My escape route when in trouble!
Was reading thru some threads when I came across some newcomers crying out for help stuck in bootloops while flashing custom roms.
Since I was free.Thought maybe write my own experiences down and what I did to get out of trouble.
Hope this not so short essay help someone new to XDA.
Let me begin with ClockWorkMod recovery.
I for one,have installed two types of Recovery to be on the safe side.
Anyways having the two does not in anyway hinder either.
Therefore it is only and added advantage.
If that wasn't enough there are kernels which come with preinstalled CWM of their own.
At the moment I've got 3.
I switch roms very often.Many a times in the beggining I often made mistakes and always had to redo the whole procedure all over again.
That means from scratch.Flashing custom roms,rooting and then delve in CWM -
X-Parts by pvyPARTS
which I had to keep downloading again and again from market.
Real pain in the ass!
Now where did I stop in the procedure,yes,after CWM installation,fastboot flash the kernel and now use the CWM to flash the roms and the other zips.
Then came across another recovery tool.
RecoverX by LEDelete.
Awesome tool.Does the same more or less as X-Parts except you need to run this on your PC and bind it to your device.
Color is bright neon blue.Very nice visually.
So now what are my choices.Do I retain one and let go of the other.
Made some enquiries about having 2 recoveries.Feedback,no problems. Sweeeeet. I'll take both!
Then came the kernels with their own recoveries i. e -
mechmetal for FusioN kernels
Did the dancing act at the beginning and very stable versions now.
Thank you.
I'll have that too.The more the better since it was not corrupting my device in any ways.
Presently,very few mistakes in flashing roms. So less frequent flashing stock roms. Mind you,it does require me,at times,to do complete clean installs once in awhile.
For that I have learnt a few tricks.
Flashing stock roms-the usual flashtool.
Since I have the bootloader unlocked,rooting takes less than 2 seconds. Simply a marvellous tool.Thanks to:
AutoRoot by bazoocase
Can't escape downloading from Google play store though OR is there a way?
There is!
Am learning that now but I'm actually trying to get only my most needed apps such as Titanium backup,Astro File Manager, and one or two more apps with its contents and data.
Jesus H Christ,this is only the beggining.There's a whole lot more to learn.But I'm liking it!
So newcomers,this might help you in your stay here at XDA.If via this lengthly passage I am able to help A newcomer I am satisfied.
Note:This are pointers for newcomers who have problems during flashing custom roms and start CRYing when stuck in bootloops.
PS: All the above are true facts.
I learnt by making mistakes here and there.
I did a lot of reading,searching,sending out PM's not getting replies and reading,searching and putting forward questions all over sometimes in wrong threads too.
For that I had been abused and bombarded collectively.But hey,that made me be extra careful.
These would happen to you but don't give up.Practice makes perfect.Don't shy off from making decisions.
You are already here.People can teach your everything but at the end of the day you are the one who is going to press that execute button.
It will for work for some cos they did exactly what was needed to be done.It might not work for some cos they didn't.
[email protected]
Xperia Arc LT15i
(nowadays it reads LT18i)
Custom ROM: FXP206 CM10
Custom Kernel: Arc FusioN 4.3
Bootloader: Unlocked
Sent from my Xperia Arc S using xda app-developers app
LreadyIt is good to see a senior member-op putting up a thread like this without being a know it all, smartass twat! I'm sure all the noobies will appreciate it! I personally worked it all out with a full month of reading. I have a bad temper and did not feel like getting abused and tyrated for asking perfectly legitimate questions! I say the same to all who are having probs and are new, keep reading,asking questions and don't give up! Six months ago I couldn't even navigate these forums properly, now I test Roms and kernels for devs! My biggest tip is find a kernel with CWM preinstalled and prerooted custom Roms! Remember one thing too, Titanium Backup is your best friend and is worth paying for the pro version! I don't like anything that isn't free but TB is worth the money!
To the OP here I think it would be good to insert a nit more detail on how to do these things and use these apps in your thread for those not in the know, maybe even some links! It's alot of work but I think noobies will be grateful! If you want some help to complete a noob friendly thread for flashing/rooting etc. PM me and I will help you write it up! We will prob get berated by others because of similar threads, but I have found them not noob friendly or incorrect! The only reason I still a junior member is because I have not bothered to make posts as have not had anything useful to say till recently!
thenks
sandroidnz01 said:
[For Newcomers]Please read
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I really wish more would.
Jaffa_79 said:
To the OP here I think it would be good to insert a nit more detail on how to do these things and use these apps in your thread for those not in the know, maybe even some links!
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Similar to the existing stickys, which are highly under utilized by new members, and as shown on a few occasions, by senior members too. Read Read Read, practice practice practice, is the only way anyone is going to learn, and I know because it's what I had to do for similar reasons to you when I knew absolutely nothing when I first joined, and if you're serious about learning how to tweak and mod Android then you need to be prepared to spend an hour or two sat at your computer, as you're not going to learn everything over night, in a week or even a month, and 3 years later you may still be learning, as I continue to.
RecoverX instalation problem
sandroidnz01 said:
My escape route when in trouble!
Was reading thru some threads when I came across some newcomers crying out for help stuck in bootloops while flashing custom roms.
Since I was free.Thought maybe write my own experiences down and what I did to get out of trouble.
Hope this not so short essay help someone new to XDA.
Let me begin with ClockWorkMod recovery.
I for one,have installed two types of Recovery to be on the safe side.
Anyways having the two does not in anyway hinder either.
Therefore it is only and added advantage.
If that wasn't enough there are kernels which come with preinstalled CWM of their own.
At the moment I've got 3.
I switch roms very often.Many a times in the beggining I often made mistakes and always had to redo the whole procedure all over again.
That means from scratch.Flashing custom roms,rooting and then delve in CWM -
X-Parts by pvyPARTS
which I had to keep downloading again and again from market.
Real pain in the ass!
Now where did I stop in the procedure,yes,after CWM installation,fastboot flash the kernel and now use the CWM to flash the roms and the other zips.
Then came across another recovery tool.
RecoverX by LEDelete.
Awesome tool.Does the same more or less as X-Parts except you need to run this on your PC and bind it to your device.
Color is bright neon blue.Very nice visually.
So now what are my choices.Do I retain one and let go of the other.
Made some enquiries about having 2 recoveries.Feedback,no problems. Sweeeeet. I'll take both!
Then came the kernels with their own recoveries i. e -
mechmetal for FusioN kernels
Did the dancing act at the beginning and very stable versions now.
Thank you.
I'll have that too.The more the better since it was not corrupting my device in any ways.
Presently,very few mistakes in flashing roms. So less frequent flashing stock roms. Mind you,it does require me,at times,to do complete clean installs once in awhile.
For that I have learnt a few tricks.
Flashing stock roms-the usual flashtool.
Since I have the bootloader unlocked,rooting takes less than 2 seconds. Simply a marvellous tool.Thanks to:
AutoRoot by bazoocase
Can't escape downloading from Google play store though OR is there a way?
There is!
Am learning that now but I'm actually trying to get only my most needed apps such as Titanium backup,Astro File Manager, and one or two more apps with its contents and data.
Jesus H Christ,this is only the beggining.There's a whole lot more to learn.But I'm liking it!
So newcomers,this might help you in your stay here at XDA.If via this lengthly passage I am able to help A newcomer I am satisfied.
Note:This are pointers for newcomers who have problems during flashing custom roms and start CRYing when stuck in bootloops.
PS: All the above are true facts.
I learnt by making mistakes here and there.
I did a lot of reading,searching,sending out PM's not getting replies and reading,searching and putting forward questions all over sometimes in wrong threads too.
For that I had been abused and bombarded collectively.But hey,that made me be extra careful.
These would happen to you but don't give up.Practice makes perfect.Don't shy off from making decisions.
You are already here.People can teach your everything but at the end of the day you are the one who is going to press that execute button.
It will for work for some cos they did exactly what was needed to be done.It might not work for some cos they didn't.
[email protected]
Xperia Arc LT15i
(nowadays it reads LT18i)
Custom ROM: FXP206 CM10
Custom Kernel: Arc FusioN 4.3
Bootloader: Unlocked
Sent from my Xperia Arc S using xda app-developers app
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Hello everyone
I am new to the forum so I am not sure if I am in the right place. I have rotted my xperia arc and I cannot install the CWM. I have tried through Xparts and through the RecoverX (RecoverX seems not to be able to download the recovery). I have done the same thing in the past without havin any probelems. This is the first time that I cannot install it. Any ideas?
Thanks for helping

[Q] New to Nexus 4 / Couple general Q's

Hello everyone,
I am new to the Nexus 4 community however not new to XDA. I have survived an HD2 and also a T989 GSII. I have had so much success with XDA and I am looking forward to working with community of folks over here. I got a Nexus 4 (being delivered Monday) to enjoy the Android experience. However the more I look over it the more I feel it lacks some of the features that I enjoyed with previous custom roms like Toggles on the notification panel for example. I know there are many apps that will accomplish the same thing but why use all these 3rd party apps when you can flash a decent rom and get a better experience with often better battery life. I am coming from an All Star Developer ROM that is a compilation ROM ( CM10, AOKP & PA )
I apologize for the rambling. I need to know:
1: What is the difference between Original Android Dev and Android Development forums? GSII did not have two forums so I was a little confused.
2: For a genuine NEXUS device, are there still bugs in ROMS? RR, SOD, GPS not working, etc? This is not a huge issue with most GSII roms I just wondered if you guys experience this at all with this phone being stock Android already. I wouldn't think this would be the case.
3: I have done my research and I am ready to move on with rooting and probably Romming. Is there anything else maybe that would be noteworthy that is specific to the Nexus line of devices. This is a vague question so don't worry with it too much. I am just curious.
Thanks everyone! I can't wait till Monday!
jcnbama said:
Hello everyone,
I am new to the Nexus 4 community however not new to XDA. I have survived an HD2 and also a T989 GSII. I have had so much success with XDA and I am looking forward to working with community of folks over here. I got a Nexus 4 (being delivered Monday) to enjoy the Android experience. However the more I look over it the more I feel it lacks some of the features that I enjoyed with previous custom roms like Toggles on the notification panel for example. I know there are many apps that will accomplish the same thing but why use all these 3rd party apps when you can flash a decent rom and get a better experience with often better battery life. I am coming from an All Star Developer ROM that is a compilation ROM ( CM10, AOKP & PA )
I apologize for the rambling. I need to know:
1: What is the difference between Original Android Dev and Android Development forums? GSII did not have two forums so I was a little confused.
2: For a genuine NEXUS device, are there still bugs in ROMS? RR, SOD, GPS not working, etc? This is not a huge issue with most GSII roms I just wondered if you guys experience this at all with this phone being stock Android already. I wouldn't think this would be the case.
3: I have done my research and I am ready to move on with rooting and probably Romming. Is there anything else maybe that would be noteworthy that is specific to the Nexus line of devices. This is a vague question so don't worry with it too much. I am just curious.
Thanks everyone! I can't wait till Monday!
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1. "Development is classified as original work and/or documented edits and changes made to others work (with their permission) that makes it your own.
Stock ROM dumps that are modified (deodexed, etc.) from the manufacturer's original intent and then repackaged together classifies as development.
Kernel's and Recovery obviously classify as development as they are modified and compiled from source""
2. Minor bugs here & there, nothing like the ones you're used of. Read the OP & last 20 posts in the thread.
3. follow the link in my signature, do not use toolkits!!
Good luck, it's an amazing phone!
Vangelis13 said:
1. "Development is classified as original work and/or documented edits and changes made to others work (with their permission) that makes it your own.
Stock ROM dumps that are modified (deodexed, etc.) from the manufacturer's original intent and then repackaged together classifies as development.
Kernel's and Recovery obviously classify as development as they are modified and compiled from source""
2. Minor bugs here & there, nothing like the ones you're used of. Read the OP & last 20 posts in the thread.
3. follow the link in my signature, do not use toolkits!!
Good luck, it's an amazing phone!
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Thanks for the info! I guess more specifically I need to know the difference between the "Original" Development thread and just the "Development" thread. Should I refer to one more than another?
Also, in reference to toolkits. I am just curious where the issue lies with that? Because honestly that is exactly what I was going to do. I am not lazy, just efficient lol. I figure why do alot of manual driver installs and command prompts if someone created a program that would do it for you? (I reference links below) Is it faulty software? Badly written programs etc? I would think there would be more room for human error when doing it yourself vs. something automated. What are your thoughts on this? Has anyone else had luck using the toolkits in the links? or any other rooting toolkits? Thanks again!
http://lifehacker.com/5979763/how-to-root-the-lg-nexus-4#13634416619583&{"type":"iframeUpdated","height":640}
http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
jcnbama said:
Thanks for the info! I guess more specifically I need to know the difference between the "Original" Development thread and just the "Development" thread. Should I refer to one more than another?
Also, in reference to toolkits. I am just curious where the issue lies with that? Because honestly that is exactly what I was going to do. I am not lazy, just efficient lol. I figure why do alot of manual driver installs and command prompts if someone created a program that would do it for you? (I reference links below) Is it faulty software? Badly written programs etc? I would think there would be more room for human error when doing it yourself vs. something automated. What are your thoughts on this? Has anyone else had luck using the toolkits in the links? or any other rooting toolkits? Thanks again!
http://lifehacker.com/5979763/how-to-root-the-lg-nexus-4#13634416619583&{"type":"iframeUpdated","height":640}
http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
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Because, you learn something very important while rooting & unlocking your phone. Human error is covered for by the step by step guide. Human error while using the toolkit, you're stuck trying to understand what the fck happened. Learn fastboot mate. Learn to control your device to a 100%, learn to fix it if it's stuck. Understand what happens with "fastboot OEM unlock". Do you know what that means btw..?
The difference between Original Development & Development is in the quote I posted above. Paranoid Android = Original.
TWRP Recovery = Original
"XYZ" Rom based on cm 10.1 + abcd theme = Development.
Vangelis13 said:
Because, you learn something very important while rooting & unlocking your phone. Human error is covered for by the step by step guide. Human error while using the toolkit, you're stuck trying to understand what the fck happened. Learn fastboot mate. Learn to control your device to a 100%, learn to fix it if it's stuck. Understand what happens with "fastboot OEM unlock". Do you know what that means btw..?
The difference between Original Development & Development is in the quote I posted above. Paranoid Android = Original.
TWRP Recovery = Original
"XYZ" Rom based on cm 10.1 + abcd theme = Development.
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Hey thanks again. I appreciate the input. I have more to learn in the NEXUS forum. I am used to ODIN and other forms of Samsung software so I will certainly read over the tutorial and absorb information. It will also help me to share my knowledge with others.
jcnbama said:
Hey thanks again. I appreciate the input. I have more to learn in the NEXUS forum. I am used to ODIN and other forms of Samsung software so I will certainly read over the tutorial and absorb information. It will also help me to share my knowledge with others.
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If nothing else, you owe it to yourself as a proud n4 owner!!

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