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Galaxy note screen pressure senstivity (1024 or 256) level?

I bought a new note 10.1 yesterday as an upgrade from tab 10.1 , but i'm some what confused with the detailed specs of the screen sensitivity on the web some says it recognizes only 256 pressure level (like original note) and others say it supports 1024 pressure level (like note 2), so which one is correct and does pressure senstivity depend on the spen or the digitizer .
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hoss_n2 said:
I bought a new note 10.1 yesterday as an upgrade from tab 10.1 , but i'm some what confused with the detailed specs of the screen sensitivity on the web some says it recognizes only 256 pressure level (like original note) and others say it supports 1024 pressure level (like note 2), so which one is correct and does pressure senstivity depend on the spen or the digitizer .
Thanks and regards
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Can it be that those who are pro apple or anti samsung does not read the full reviews?
Quote uk.hardware.info "A Note is only a Note if you can take notes on it. That's why Samsung has included a little pen, that can be stored in the case just like last year's Galaxy Note smartphone. When you take out the pen, a side bar appears with pen-specific shortcuts.
The S pen is much more sensitive according to Samsung. The pressure sensitivity has been increased from 256 to 1,024 levels, which makes using it even smoother."

Nexus 10 Screen On Note 10.1 ??

guys would it be possible to take off the screens in each tablet and install the nexus 10 screen on the note 10.1 ?? Wouldnt that give us the resolution capabilities for it , and at the same time replace the battery and get the NFC ??

cubandevil said:
guys would it be possible to take off the screens in each tablet and install the nexus 10 screen on the note 10.1 ?? Wouldnt that give us the resolution capabilities for it , and at the same time replace the battery and get the NFC ??
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The Note has an inductive display to support the S-Pen and the N10's display is capacitive and the pen won't work. So, pick one.

so the screens are not separated like a digitizer and the actual screen ?? and sorry for these question im ignorant when it comes to things like these.

Pretty sure the Exynos 4 that's inside the Note 10.1 doesn't support the Nexus 10's screen resolution. So it won't work as far as I know.

The screen wont work for mainly two reasons the wavecom chip wont work with a capacative screen and it does not support higher resolution then what we have on the note. That is why not has that resolution
The processor does not support that high resolution.
These are main two reason apart from many other. Its like fitting a trucks body on a cars chassies

cubandevil said:
so the screens are not separated like a digitizer and the actual screen ?? and sorry for these question im ignorant when it comes to things like these.
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Here's the difference between the two displays. An inductive display picks up an electro-magnetic signal from the pen where a capacitive display only can respond to physical contact. Based on the manufacturing complexity I'd guess the Note's display cost Samsung more than the FHD+ display on the N10.

BarryH_GEG said:
Here's the difference between the two displays. An inductive display picks up an electro-magnetic signal from the pen where a capacitive display only can respond to physical contact. Based on the manufacturing complexity I'd guess the Note's display cost Samsung more than the FHD+ display on the N10.
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We have both capacitive and inductive digitizers as we have dual digitizers one from atmel and the other is wacom
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hoss_n2 said:
We have both capacitive and inductive digitizers as we have dual digitizers one from atmel and the other is wacom
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Thank you guys , just using my imagination
I didnt know that the screen resolution mattered to the cpu , but then again a computer monitor will go as far as the graphics in a pc allows it ..

Yes the same concept works over here, it depends on how much the mali gpu allows it go to. Secondly as the resolution increase the processing power requirement also increases.
You can have insane resolutions but how pratical are they since most of the apps are developed for a 5inch screen.

This was posted in the N10 forum and sort of describes the challenges of inking on a capacitive display by someone who tried to solve them. To me, either inking works well or why bother. Using a kluge might get the job done but would be very frustrating. I'd rather live with the 720P display (which is still better in contrast and brightness than the N10's).
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I made the app Writepad Stylus to do precisely that, on the Asus Transformer 101. Palm rejection on a capacitive screen, without weird zoning boxes. It worked pretty well and I made a lot of money from it. But there are a ton of issues with that algorithm that I ran into when I got the Asus Transformer Prime, which ultimately made me give up on the app:
Bad capacitive screen sensitivity. The Transformer Prime and the Galaxy Tab 10.1 both have awful sensitivity settings, so the writing comes out looking like an 8 year old's scribble. It doesn't register all the input points. It doesn't start recording points until AFTER you move the stylus a certain distance. Ugh. There's an app that sorta fixes that called TouchscreenTune, but it requires root, and the settings for that are really hard to calibrate. Even after messing with that, it's still not as good as on the Xoom or the original Transformer.
Touch screen can't handle straight lines. If you try to draw a straight line horizontally or vertically, it comes out straight. If you try to draw a diagonal line, it comes out wiggly. This is also particular to certain tablet screens. Who knows whether a particular tablet will have good touch screen or crappy one? No reviewer tests for that kind of thing. You have to go to the store to try it out.
Your hand will accidentally hit the notification or navigation buttons, taking focus away from the app, or accidentally going back to the homescreen. As far as I know, this can happen even with the S-pen. Asus has a "lock navigation bar" feature on their tablets, which is nice. There's no way to hide the navigation bar or disable it while something is going on in app (unless you root your tablet).
Anyway, if someone wants to test these things on the Nexus 10 and report back, I'd be grateful since I can't find these in stores yet. Just try to write as small as you can with a capacitive stylus, and try to slowly draw straight diagonal lines.
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BarryH_GEG said:
Here's the difference between the two displays. An inductive display picks up an electro-magnetic signal from the pen where a capacitive display only can respond to physical contact. Based on the manufacturing complexity I'd guess the Note's display cost Samsung more than the FHD+ display on the N10.
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You have posted a comparison between a RESISTIVE display and a capacitive/inductive one. The top picture is resistive which is old technology now, it's what the old smart phones and pocket PC's used and had a thin layer of plasticky material for sensing pressure. The note 10.1 uses both capacitive (for fingers) and inductive (for the pen).....and the nexus 10 just uses capacitive, not the screen in the 1st pic in your diagram. As far as I know, no screens use resistive tech anymore.
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[Q] Best stylus for drawing?

I've been looking for awhile for a stylus that performs like as if it's a wacom pen. So I can draw freely and have control of my brush. Is there anything like that? Can the N10 perform like that even? There's tons of information about the iPad and I'm really sick of it. I'd really appreciate it in advance.

Rinqt said:
I've been looking for awhile for a stylus that performs like as if it's a wacom pen. So I can draw freely and have control of my brush. Is there anything like that? Can the N10 perform like that even? There's tons of information about the iPad and I'm really sick of it. I'd really appreciate it in advance.
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I do not think you can get what you want with the Nexus 10 screen technology. The lag and inaccuracy will hurt the experience. One of the tablets that includes the Wacom SCREEN technology along with the pen is what you want.

3DSammy said:
I do not think you can get what you want with the Nexus 10 screen technology. The lag and inaccuracy will hurt the experience. One of the tablets that includes the Wacom SCREEN technology along with the pen is what you want.
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Well, not literally will I be using it as a tablet source for drawings for pc if that's what you mean? I got sketch pad pro and wanted to be more effective at controlling the brush and such.

I've tried to do effective Sketchbook Pro sketching on everything from an iPad2 to a Nexus 10 to an Xperia Table Z and have never been satisfied with the experience. There was no pressure sensitivity and the lag always killed the flow. Even that platonic "best" stylus can't overcome the deficiencies of the Nexus 10 (and most other tablets).
You might want to look into the new Toshiba Excite Write (same resolution as Nexus 10 but $100 more expensive) or a Samsung Note tablet (much lower resolution but cheaper). Both species actually do have Wacom digitizer screens (so pressure sensitive) and come with a compatible stylus.
Personally, I'm going to try the Toshiba Write and see if that new Tegra 4 processor can eliminate the stylus lag.

TellTenPeople said:
I've tried to do effective Sketchbook Pro sketching on everything from an iPad2 to a Nexus 10 to an Xperia Table Z and have never been satisfied with the experience. There was no pressure sensitivity and the lag always killed the flow. Even that platonic "best" stylus can't overcome the deficiencies of the Nexus 10 (and most other tablets).
You might want to look into the new Toshiba Excite Write (same resolution as Nexus 10 but $100 more expensive) or a Samsung Note tablet (much lower resolution but cheaper). Both species actually do have Wacom digitizer screens (so pressure sensitive) and come with a compatible stylus.
Personally, I'm going to try the Toshiba Write and see if that new Tegra 4 processor can eliminate the stylus lag.
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Ah, Ok. Well my tablet was inherited to me. So, still trying to tinker and such. But thank you for the insight.

S Pen quality

Am I imagining it or is the S pen with the note 4 really cheap and flimsy feeling compared to previous ones? I never had a note 3 and it's been more than 2 months since I used my note 2, but the first time I pulled out the s pen with the new phone I thought it felt not nearly as nice as the note 2 pen. Anyone feel the same?

Nope feels fine too me

Fine over here too.

I had the note 2 before and i prefer the note 2 pen by far. The tip on the note 4 pen feels cheap

It is a bit thin for my taste
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I prefer the feel of the pen from the gn2 but I much prefer the tip feel and features of this new pen.
I also prefered the way the pen in the gn2 sat flush with the frame as opposed to it sitting proud in the gn4.

Accuracy of the Note 4 with any compatible pen is superb

[Q] Can the Note 4 replace pen/paper for note-taking in college?

Hello everyone! I currently own a Samsung Galaxy S4, but would like to upgrade to the Samsung Galaxy Note 4. The main reason for the switch is because I am interested in the S-Pen and its many functionalities. My question is, will I be able to effectively use the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 as my main note-taking apparatus, or will such prove to be difficult due to the screen's size? Has anyone here done this before? What were your experiences like?
Thanks!

for short notes yes its fine. for long multi page notes you need something better. i use a surface pro 3 which works ok. The cheaper alternative is to add a $150 smartpen and smart paper such as - http://www.livescribe.com/en-us/ and send it to the note 4 via wifi.

Depends much on your note taking needs and what you are replacing on the paper side. Would you be comfortable taking notes on a small notepad the size of the Note 4? If that meets your needs on paper, then same would go here.
If you need a full size pad for note taking on paper then you need a tablet like the Galaxy Note 10.1.
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Thanks for the replies. What do you all think of the Surface Pro 3 for note-taking in college?

Now that OneNote supports inking on Android and generally handles just like it does on a full-fledged Tablet PC, I'd say it's a viable option...for short notes.
For lengthy notes and sprawling math formulas and graphs and stuff, the screen size is really limiting, and that's when you'll be yearning for a tablet in the 12-13" range with an active pen digitizer. For that, you've got plenty of cheap options all around eBay if you know what to look for.
The Surface Pro 3 should suffice for note-taking once you install OneNote, but the N-trig pen requires a bit more pressure for activation than the Wacom pens in the older Surface Pro models (that incidentally also work on the Galaxy Note, and vice versa). That might take some getting used to, but nothing deal-breaking.

Well if you don't mind reading from a small screen then the note 4s s-pen function will be useful jotting down notes and clipping images or notes for documentation. However for note taking a lot of things it would be manageable for the phone but it would lets say be a little challenging.
And IMO a Surface pro 3 would be more easier for your purpose but a bit bulky