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Power Consumption vs. Screen Density

I'm in the middle of doing a major 'power overhaul' and was wondering if scaling the screen density from 240 to 160 would hurt/help my quest.
Attached is the basic density, and of course i try to keep dark colors or white on black themes. Obviously not done yet.

I will say this... In my experience, on my own phones and others (many others at work I have rooted), that task killer will drain you worse than anything.

danaff37 said:
I will say this... In my experience, on my own phones and others (many others at work I have rooted), that task killer will drain you worse than anything.
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I KNEW someone was going to comment on that. And yes not only is that usually disabled (i just flashed new rom and installed that little bugger), but i wouldn't have my fbchat enabled 24/7.
Thanks though.

alcohol120% said:
I'm in the middle of doing a major 'power overhaul' and was wondering if scaling the screen density from 240 to 160 would hurt/help my quest.
Attached is the basic density, and of course i try to keep dark colors or white on black themes. Obviously not done yet.
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Sorry but this isn't about ur question lol. But can u tell me how you got your slider that way? And also how u changed battery icon at the top? Please. Lol. And thanks
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e240 said:
Sorry but this isn't about ur question lol. But can u tell me how you got your slider that way? And also how u changed battery icon at the top? Please. Lol. And thanks
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No problem, mine is a noob-tweaked version of this:
[ROM]Evo(Shift)Nonsense(2/9)
Its in the EVO Shift 4G Android Development thread.
EDIT:
Noob-tweaked means it came with a LOT of stuff on it. I deleted/added some. Wrapped it up and call it mine.
I dont even have enough posts to thank the dev in his own thread.

alcohol120% said:
I'm in the middle of doing a major 'power overhaul' and was wondering if scaling the screen density from 240 to 160 would hurt/help my quest.
Attached is the basic density, and of course i try to keep dark colors or white on black themes. Obviously not done yet.
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I tweaked my build.prop file to reflect 160 density, and haven't noticed any significant battery save.
However (as noted in a previous post), changing the density in our build.prop files as of now seems to cause all sorts of clusterf*** with many HTC apps (people, calculator, mail, footprints, peep). I haven't figured out why that is, and for now I've just replaced them w/ 3rd party apps because I can do without them for the sake of having the LCD density I want lol.
Hopefully one of us lands on the answer of how to mod the build.prop w/o causing numerous HTC FC's in the process.

Agreed with the HTC apps, I went 3rd party too. Most have similar (if not better) functionality. Thanks for actually getting back about my op.
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alcohol120% said:
Agreed with the HTC apps, I went 3rd party too. Most have similar (if not better) functionality. Thanks for actually getting back about my op.
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Np.
BTW, I tested out 140-180 densities, and 170 seems to perform the best on our phones in terms of widget responsiveness, while maintaining a clean pixelation. I also keep the brightness @ a cool 20% (unless i'm in bright sunlight). No complaints so far.
Oh, and "contapps" from the Market = what the HTC "People" app should be. Check it out.

pwrmedia said:
Np.
BTW, I tested out 140-180 densities, and 170 seems to perform the best on our phones in terms of widget responsiveness, while maintaining a clean pixelation. I also keep the brightness @ a cool 20% (unless i'm in bright sunlight). No complaints so far.
Oh, and "contapps" from the Market = what the HTC "People" app should be. Check it out.
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I actually found a thread the other night talking about contapps so i got it and read some reviews on appbrain, just so happened to be fiddling with it all day.

Samsung Galaxy II update to increase the size of icons

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_ii_update_to_increase_the_size_of_icons-news-3249.php
Guys do you believe this!!! Yuck. Homescreen looks awful. Do you really think samsung is going to do this ???

Old old news see previous posts its an option only .
jje

OMG! NO!!!! They are thinking of adding an OPTION for older people to have larger Icons to help them use the phone and they are making updating the firmware easier for those less technically capable!!!! WHAT ARE THEY THINKING??? THESE PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE USING SMARTPHONES!!!!!! I'M NEVER GETTING THE S2 NAO!!

Haha, good one, but really why force it on everyone else.
Edit: (after reading some more) Lets see if they offer it as an option or not

If anything id be looking to DECREASE the size of the icons not increase them although the size they are right now is fine.

CynMod guys
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Be better with a 5x5 grid....
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Intratech said:
OMG! NO!!!! They are thinking of adding an OPTION for older people to have larger Icons to help them use the phone and they are making updating the firmware easier for those less technically capable!!!! WHAT ARE THEY THINKING??? THESE PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE USING SMARTPHONES!!!!!! I'M NEVER GETTING THE S2 NAO!!
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Hi
I'm technically capable (IT developer by trade) whom also happens have very poor sight. I choose SGS2 because of the screen size and "low" resolution!
If Samsung implemented an option to have larger icons, I might actually be happy to use it!
BTW ... I'm also old

Mittaa said:
Hi
I'm technically capable (IT developer by trade) whom also happens have very poor sight. I choose SGS2 because of the screen size and "low" resolution!
If Samsung implemented an option to have larger icons, I might actually be happy to use it!
BTW ... I'm also old
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So it's people like you who are to blame?

intratech said:
so it's people like you who are to blame? :d
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Whaaat ? ... I can't see what your saying. Pls use a larger font

I would guess its only korean version (for now).
At least its the korean model on the picture.
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WTF!!! This is a huge downgrade! Only reason i can think of is Samsung HAD to do it because of Apple's complaints about the similarity of the gui's of Android vs that of iOS. We've already begun to see the effects of this war with one of the most recent releases of the SGS2 ROMs, lacking nonetheless than the overscroll bumping effect!
Myself, I will stuck with my old stock ROM with Android version 2.3.3...

By the look of it, there are many people here who should seriously consider taking up the bigger icons given the apparent eyesight challenges they are having.
Such as not being able to spot that this is an option and not compulsory...

ITS AN OPTION FOR SENIORS
Now stop *****in'

It would be good if it was just an option, but if it is so, then where is this written?
Personally, although I am middle aged and have poor eyesight, I much prefer having 16 icons of normal size rather than 9 enormous icons. Especially considering the big screen size. I don't think I'm the only one...

4x4? I tried 5x5 and even that wasn't enough space.
Yeah go figure.

haha i will never update to this ****

prodygee said:
ITS AN OPTION FOR SENIORS
Now stop *****in'
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JuniorGG said:
It would be good if it was just an option, but if it is so, then where is this written?
Personally, although I am middle aged and have poor eyesight, I much prefer having 16 icons of normal size rather than 9 enormous icons. Especially considering the big screen size. I don't think I'm the only one...
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Several Dutch sites state this. 3x3 would be really stupid to force on consumers. I'm 100% certain it's not a must.

anshmiester78900 said:
haha i will never update to this ****
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Ha ha!! Nice the way the 'change' is advertised! An 'update' to increase the size of the icons... instead of a downgrade to reduce the number of icons and make a flagship smartphone look like a 50 euros' phone!

[POLL] Who wants to enable Samsung's mdnie on CM9?

So today I flashed CM9 Beta 1, and I noticed the screen was different. The colors were fine, but the text was fuzzy and the icons were blurry. I didn't realize that this was because they disabled Samsung's mdnie coloring, which in my opinion, made the text look a lot better. So who hopes for Beta 2 that they re-enable the old colors because it looks awful now! I know this sounds immature, but I've seen so many complaints and I have to agree.

Where is the poll?
Also, please include an option for "indifferent".
My ol' eyes cant tell one from the other...
edit: Ha! Guess I was just to fast, and thanks for the I dont care option!

It looks good too me.. I won't vote yet, I may need to flash back to double check but I am pleased so far..

celsius0010 said:
It looks good too me.. I won't vote yet, I may need to flash back to double check but I am pleased so far..
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I just compared. The text is MUCH better in CM9 beta0. Honestly.

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I just compared. The text is MUCH better in CM9 beta0. Honestly.
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Got a place I can check that I could tell better than others?
My eyes ain't what they used to be, and I would like to see if I can tell, where it is supposed to be most obvious.
Still, I would rather an option to switch it on/off over stuck with one or the other, if possible.
When it comes to Android, I always tend to go with the "more options" path

God I agree with this. Please change it back. I'm getting more use to it but it does not really look all that better, and has more negatives than positives.
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I can live with it. It is certainly not a deal breaker for me, as I can tell the difference from beta0.

It doesn't look any different to me...I guess that means I don't give a crap. More free RAM sounds good to me.
Anyone have some screenies to show us the difference?

RyleyinSTL said:
It doesn't look any different to me...I guess that means I don't give a crap. More free RAM sounds good to me.
Any have some screenies to show us the difference?
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Screenies won't help. It mods the display. Camera photos will work. I notice a smoother fade on the settings app and keyboard.
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marcusant said:
Screenies won't help. It mods the display. Camera photos will work. I notice a smoother fade on the settings app and keyboard.
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I definitely notice its smoother in the settings app and i like that. However i wish the text would still render i bit better and i hope that they re-enable mdnie in beta2, or at least find a way to improve the text while keeping the smoothness in some other areas. Idk. Back to beta0 for me.
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RyleyinSTL said:
It doesn't look any different to me...I guess that means I don't give a crap. More free RAM sounds good to me.
Anyone have some screenies to show us the difference?
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I retracted my statement about the RAM as this doesn't actually free up any RAM. That was something else they modified.
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I just compared. The text is MUCH better in CM9 beta0. Honestly.
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I totally agree. My eyes hurt for a minute trying to focus.
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Someone should post side by side screen shots for the poll.

judogti said:
Someone should post side by side screen shots for the poll.
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You cant because the camera wont recognize it any differently. Without any bias, id say you just have to try them out yourself.
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The colors on my screen look more natural, but I don't notice any difference in text. I switched the kernel several times. I guess everyone's phone is affected differently.
Maybe it's something more complicated like differently manufactured screens or something (just taking a shot in the dark).

Some areas are better than others. I see it with black text on gray. There is a difference. Small, but you get the colors right you'll see it. Smaller the font the better it gets too.
I vote back or options.

I've been using voodoo color and then I updated to beta 1 and the white color is way off it looks like to me but it could just be not use to using my phone without voodoo
Epic 4g, CM9 Beta, EL30, Shadow

this was most likely removed due to the fact that CM roms use nothing from the OEM. If the is an OEM setting it will never be added to CM roms.

zelendel said:
this was most likely removed due to the fact that CM roms use nothing from the OEM. If the is an OEM setting it will never be added to CM roms.
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No, this was removed because the devs on "our" end were experimenting with it. They even claimed they were unsure what it did, but that Noobnl said it looked better without it. Read the blog there's more info there. They are also letting people test a temp boot kernel with it re-enabled so they can decide before the next release whether to re-enable it or not. I just with in the meantime that they would release a perm flashable of the alternate kernel isntead of just the temp bootable.
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Zeinzu said:
No, this was removed because the devs on "our" end were experimenting with it. They even claimed they were unsure what it did, but that Noobnl said it looked better without it. Read the blog there's more info there. They are also letting people test a temp boot kernel with it re-enabled so they can decide before the next release whether to re-enable it or not. I just with in the meantime that they would release a perm flashable of the alternate kernel isntead of just the temp bootable.
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Really? I'll have to check with the CM team as they make it a point to never add any OEM features or settings. If its not part of the AOSP coding or CM coding then normally it is not added to Official from versions

Let's figure out how to remove the sharpening.

So I saw this in the build prop
"qualcomm sensors enable
#
# LGE CHANGE_S, 2013-10-29, [email protected]
# below sensor is default true by HAL source.
#ro.qualcomm.sensors.qmd=true
#ro.qc.sdk.sensors.gestures=true
#ro.qualcomm.sensors.pedometer=true
#ro.qc.sensors.step_detector=true
#ro.qc.sensors.step_counter=true
#ro.qualcomm.sensors.pam=true
#ro.qualcomm.sensors.scrn_ortn=true
#ro.qualcomm.sensors.smd=true
#ro.qualcomm.sensors.game_rv=true
#ro.qualcomm.sensors.georv=true
# LGE CHANGE_E, 2013-10-29, [email protected]"
Not sure if anything there can help, but I know that the sharpening is applied when there's something light on a dark background or vice versa and also if you have any type of floating menu it'll sharpen everything in the background.
Samsung does this as well but as far as I know only in multi window mode.
Its not a screen issue as its not always apparent. And as far as I know the oppo find 7 has the same panel and doesn't exhibit these effects.
So anyone have any ideas?
Kernel related ?
Display drivers?
Maybe we should all email lg and ask them for an option to remove it.

Just fyi oppo use japan display inc panel while lg use their own panel

I think the only way to defeat the sharpening is with a custom kernel and possibly an app to tweak the display unless LG of course turn this 'feature' off in the future themselves via an OTA update.

daleski75 said:
I think the only way to defeat the sharpening is with a custom kernel and possibly an app to tweak the display unless LG of course turn this 'feature' off in the future themselves via an OTA update.
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Hope they do. Its pointless.
So anyways I came across another thing.
If you tune the display with a kernel app as in colors. If you tune all the colors down and make the colors darker and such, everything will have the sharpening applied. So it seems like the software sees that and applies it to everything.
Hoping it's just kernel

Lostatsea23 said:
Hope they do. Its pointless.
So anyways I came across another thing.
If you tune the display with a kernel app as in colors. If you tune all the colors down and make the colors darker and such, everything will have the sharpening applied. So it seems like the software sees that and applies it to everything.
Hoping it's just kernel
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I am just guessing as I am not a developer by any shape of the imagination but this sounds like it's built into the OS so possibly a tweak to prevent this behaviour from getting triggered which will turn off the sharpening effect.

daleski75 said:
I am just guessing as I am not a developer by any shape of the imagination but this sounds like it's built into the OS so possibly a tweak to prevent this behaviour from getting triggered which will turn off the sharpening effect.
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Yes I think so. If someone can baksmali the ROM maybe they can find something. Id get in touch with a Dev but as this time it seems like no one owns the device.

Lostatsea23 said:
Yes I think so. If someone can baksmali the ROM maybe they can find something. Id get in touch with a Dev but as this time it seems like no one owns the device.
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When it finally rolls out to the USA then I think it will get better dev support.

I'll have the device soon, but I'm not sure we're able to turn it off since it may be the part of the driver. Haven't done it yet, but if we can debug the running code and binary patch the trigger effect into not signaling, we may fix it. If it IS a trigger at all; e.g. we should find when it does signal the driver/gpu to apply sharpening and just switch code from JE to JNE or similar to kill the trigger and never apply it.
Theoretically.

Hopefully LG can turn it off and not a hardware combo issue with the 801 and this particular display tech.

It can be turned off. They purposely added it

Lostatsea23 said:
It can be turned off. They purposely added it
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I wonder if anyone knows the purpose. Because any sane person would turn it off after seeing it in action.

toncij said:
I wonder if anyone knows the purpose. Because any sane person would turn it off after seeing it in action.
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The purpose is either, they want to emphasize the need for it so they make things extra sharp over 1080p not realizing it actually looks worse when its sharpened. Or its because the contrast ratio is low so to do that they sharpened it in areas where it would be more noticeable to make it more legible. Again, doesn't really help.
On the galaxy phones it would produce this on multi window mode as stated and when putting a cm ROM on it you wouldn't get any of that since there's no window mode. But... If you go into screen settings and change the screen aliasing type or whatever, if you change from standard to reading mode it would make the display sharp exactly like we see on this one. So once we get kernel support for screen modes (cm adds modes such as movie mode and sharpness ect) then we should be fine.

Lostatsea23 said:
The purpose is either, they want to emphasize the need for it so they make things extra sharp over 1080p not realizing it actually looks worse when its sharpened. Or its because the contrast ratio is low so to do that they sharpened it in areas where it would be more noticeable to make it more legible. Again, doesn't really help.
On the galaxy phones it would produce this on multi window mode as stated and when putting a cm ROM on it you wouldn't get any of that since there's no window mode. But... If you go into screen settings and change the screen aliasing type or whatever, if you change from standard to reading mode it would make the display sharp exactly like we see on this one. So once we get kernel support for screen modes (cm adds modes such as movie mode and sharpness ect) then we should be fine.
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Well, I don't believe a whole bunch of smart engineers, designers and such in dev and QA would not notice it sucks...
And for screen modes, after so much hassle, I hope and expect LG is preparing us a "turn bloody thing off" setting...

Well once it comes out in the states I will be contacting some devs about it. We need a boot loader unlock as well though

toncij said:
I wonder if anyone knows the purpose. Because any sane person would turn it off after seeing it in action.
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Without seeing it in person, it probably was added to make their simple UI have more of a pop to it. They were probably trying to make it stand out more in stores, like how tvs usually have horrible settings when on display at a store.

flaring afro said:
Without seeing it in person, it probably was added to make their simple UI have more of a pop to it. They were probably trying to make it stand out more in stores, like how tvs usually have horrible settings when on display at a store.
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They're dumb because it makes it look worse. In almost positive a fix will be found. If anything maybe the carrier releases will have this fixed already.

Guess what...
I installed bravia engine v3 from Android Tweaker 2 and...
I think my display is more clear and the sharpening is slightly gone!
You guys better try it and tell your impression
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haris182 said:
Guess what...
I installed bravia engine v3 from Android Tweaker 2 and...
I think my display is more clear and the sharpening is slightly gone!
You guys better try it and tell your impression
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Nope. Exactly the same. Placebo

Sugar pills taste so good

rushless said:
Sugar pills taste so good
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Lol. If an update to remove this isn't out in the next couple weeks. Bye bye G3

What LCD Density do you prefer?

The title says it all. What lcd_density do you use most with your Note 4?

440-480...perfect

I always use 480

I like the stock 640. My eyes suck so 640 makes everything nice and big and easy to see.

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440-480...perfect
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Doesnt 440-480 make the phone into a tablet setting? I tried below 500 and it made everything think I was using an tablet instead of a phone.

Brava27 said:
Doesnt 440-480 make the phone into a tablet setting? I tried below 500 and it made everything think I was using an tablet instead of a phone.
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Odd I never experience that issue. What were you doing for that to be invoke?

mgbotoe said:
Odd I never experience that issue. What were you doing for that to be invoke?
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Simply changed dpi via build prop

Face_Plant said:
I like the stock 680. My eyes suck so 680 makes everything nice and big and easy to see.
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just to let you know stock is 640 not 680.
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Doesnt 440-480 make the phone into a tablet setting? I tried below 500 and it made everything think I was using an tablet instead of a phone.
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JB was the last Android version that had different tablet UI after that phones and tablets are same.

zain0300 said:
just to let you know stock is 640 not 680.
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I was close enough. I knew it was 6 something.....
Thanks for letting me know. Edited my post so people don't think I'm an idiot :good:

475 seems to be my sweet spot
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Never mind. Figured it out.

It looks fantastic at 480, but boy does it dork up TW. LOL

560 is perfect IMO.

how do you guys keep the Camera full screen? When I experimented and changed the dpi, the camera was no longer filling up the whole screen.

SiNJiN76 said:
how do you guys keep the Camera full screen? When I experimented and changed the dpi, the camera was no longer filling up the whole screen.
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I was about to ask the same thing.

SiNJiN76 said:
how do you guys keep the Camera full screen? When I experimented and changed the dpi, the camera was no longer filling up the whole screen.
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Per app setting and than change camera,phone,dialer back to 640

SiNJiN76 said:
how do you guys keep the Camera full screen? When I experimented and changed the dpi, the camera was no longer filling up the whole screen.
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I was about to ask the same thing.
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Xposed > app settings > change contacts (dialer), camera, gallery back to 640 dpi. Keep in mind you can change any app you like to any dpi other than the one you've made the entire device.
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Xposed > app settings > change contacts (dialer), camera, gallery back to 640 dpi. Keep in mind you can change any app you like to any dpi other than the one you've made the entire device.
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Worked like a dream! Thank you!

dc/dc said:
It looks fantastic at 480, but boy does it dork up TW. LOL
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I can't use the TW launcher past my initial setup anyways. I'm always rocking Nova Launcher
SiNJiN76 said:
how do you guys keep the Camera full screen? When I experimented and changed the dpi, the camera was no longer filling up the whole screen.
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Xposed > app settings > change contacts (dialer), camera, gallery back to 640 dpi. Keep in mind you can change any app you like to any dpi other than the one you've made the entire device.
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I swear there was a thread on the App Settings that should be reset for apps on the note 4 with modified lcd_densitys but I can't find it. I just read it yesterday and even a search through my browser history yields no results Is it just me or do our subconscious minds create false memories sometimes just to mess with us and see how the conscious mind reacts?
I'm running 560 right now.

patrioticparadox said:
I can't use the TW launcher past my initial setup anyways. I'm always rocking Nova Launcher
I swear there was a thread on the App Settings that should be reset for apps on the note 4 with modified lcd_densitys but I can't find it. I just read it yesterday and even a search through my browser history yields no results Is it just me or do our subconscious minds create false memories sometimes just to mess with us and see how the conscious mind reacts?
I'm running 560 right now.
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Funny. Yesterday I put my DPI @ 580. Looked nice and compact. This morning, it looks like it's back to 640 (normal). Ha ha eyes already adjusted to 580. Guess I'll be lowering that number very soon. BTW, is there a rule-of-thumb for the number we choose for the dpi?Such as to keep the number even? Keep it on 10's?