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Power Consumption vs. Screen Density

I'm in the middle of doing a major 'power overhaul' and was wondering if scaling the screen density from 240 to 160 would hurt/help my quest.
Attached is the basic density, and of course i try to keep dark colors or white on black themes. Obviously not done yet.

I will say this... In my experience, on my own phones and others (many others at work I have rooted), that task killer will drain you worse than anything.

danaff37 said:
I will say this... In my experience, on my own phones and others (many others at work I have rooted), that task killer will drain you worse than anything.
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I KNEW someone was going to comment on that. And yes not only is that usually disabled (i just flashed new rom and installed that little bugger), but i wouldn't have my fbchat enabled 24/7.
Thanks though.

alcohol120% said:
I'm in the middle of doing a major 'power overhaul' and was wondering if scaling the screen density from 240 to 160 would hurt/help my quest.
Attached is the basic density, and of course i try to keep dark colors or white on black themes. Obviously not done yet.
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Sorry but this isn't about ur question lol. But can u tell me how you got your slider that way? And also how u changed battery icon at the top? Please. Lol. And thanks
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e240 said:
Sorry but this isn't about ur question lol. But can u tell me how you got your slider that way? And also how u changed battery icon at the top? Please. Lol. And thanks
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No problem, mine is a noob-tweaked version of this:
[ROM]Evo(Shift)Nonsense(2/9)
Its in the EVO Shift 4G Android Development thread.
EDIT:
Noob-tweaked means it came with a LOT of stuff on it. I deleted/added some. Wrapped it up and call it mine.
I dont even have enough posts to thank the dev in his own thread.

alcohol120% said:
I'm in the middle of doing a major 'power overhaul' and was wondering if scaling the screen density from 240 to 160 would hurt/help my quest.
Attached is the basic density, and of course i try to keep dark colors or white on black themes. Obviously not done yet.
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I tweaked my build.prop file to reflect 160 density, and haven't noticed any significant battery save.
However (as noted in a previous post), changing the density in our build.prop files as of now seems to cause all sorts of clusterf*** with many HTC apps (people, calculator, mail, footprints, peep). I haven't figured out why that is, and for now I've just replaced them w/ 3rd party apps because I can do without them for the sake of having the LCD density I want lol.
Hopefully one of us lands on the answer of how to mod the build.prop w/o causing numerous HTC FC's in the process.

Agreed with the HTC apps, I went 3rd party too. Most have similar (if not better) functionality. Thanks for actually getting back about my op.
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alcohol120% said:
Agreed with the HTC apps, I went 3rd party too. Most have similar (if not better) functionality. Thanks for actually getting back about my op.
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Np.
BTW, I tested out 140-180 densities, and 170 seems to perform the best on our phones in terms of widget responsiveness, while maintaining a clean pixelation. I also keep the brightness @ a cool 20% (unless i'm in bright sunlight). No complaints so far.
Oh, and "contapps" from the Market = what the HTC "People" app should be. Check it out.

pwrmedia said:
Np.
BTW, I tested out 140-180 densities, and 170 seems to perform the best on our phones in terms of widget responsiveness, while maintaining a clean pixelation. I also keep the brightness @ a cool 20% (unless i'm in bright sunlight). No complaints so far.
Oh, and "contapps" from the Market = what the HTC "People" app should be. Check it out.
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I actually found a thread the other night talking about contapps so i got it and read some reviews on appbrain, just so happened to be fiddling with it all day.

Stop using lcd density line in ics!!!

I know that the most common way people have been switching between phone and tablet modes in AOSP builds of ICS is by changing the lcd density. Well, I'm here to tell you that there is an easier way to do it, and it doesn't create weird looking out-of-aspect-ratio artifacts in certain apps (like Google Music in portrait orientation in tablet mode).
So, in your build.prop, instead of using the traditional ro.sf.lcd_density= line, you can remove that entirely, and use:
ro.build.characteristics=
and after the "=" just put either tablet or phone.
That's it! Easy peasy!

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
I know that the most common way people have been switching between phone and tablet modes in AOSP builds of ICS is by changing the lcd density. Well, I'm here to tell you that there is an easier way to do it, and it doesn't create weird looking out-of-aspect-ratio artifacts in certain apps (like Google Music in portrait orientation in tablet mode).
So, in your build.prop, instead of using the traditional ro.sf.lcd_density= line, you can remove that entirely, and use:
ro.build.characteristics=
and after the "=" just put either tablet or phone.
That's it! Easy peasy!
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Thanks for the tip mate

That was added in CNA v5 and i think it created problems and was changed back in v5.1.
Fyi, tablet mode changes the dpi to 160, at the moment i use 200 because 160 is a tad bit small for me.
Good tip tho, interested to see if it creates any issues with Imilika v8..
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Great tip, although this really belongs in the "General" section.
Expect more from someone with almost a thousand posts...

sundazetoo said:
That was added in CNA v5 and i think it created problems and was changed back in v5.1.
Fyi, tablet mode changes the dpi to 160, at the moment i use 200 because 160 is a tad bit small for me.
Good tip tho, interested to see if it creates any issues with Imilika v8..
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exactly

If you didn't create it... this belongs in general...
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Jade Eyed Wolf said:
I know that the most common way people have been switching between phone and tablet modes in AOSP builds of ICS is by changing the lcd density. Well, I'm here to tell you that there is an easier way to do it, and it doesn't create weird looking out-of-aspect-ratio artifacts in certain apps (like Google Music in portrait orientation in tablet mode).
So, in your build.prop, instead of using the traditional ro.sf.lcd_density= line, you can remove that entirely, and use:
ro.build.characteristics=
and after the "=" just put either tablet or phone.
That's it! Easy peasy!
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So basically you keep the DPI @ 320 & change the above parameter to tablet?
Will this give me the tablet like two panes in settings, gmail & google play?

Screen shot please, and stop crying about this brlongs here ore there. Cry babys

daddymatt said:
If you didn't create it... this belongs in general...
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Spot On
Thread Moved To General​

prgopala said:
So basically you keep the DPI @ 320 & change the above parameter to tablet?
Will this give me the tablet like two panes in settings, gmail & google play?
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So basically ICS has 2 modes, tablet mode and phone mode. To my understanding this is dependent on the dpi, anything lower than 213 dpi will display ICS in tablet mode i.e. 2 panes on most apps. Apparently 160 dpi is the official tablet mode..and i think 320 dpi is the standard phone mode. I currently run mine in 200 dpi and most apps show 2 panes.. I am sure there is a better explanation somewhere
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sundazetoo said:
That was added in CNA v5 and i think it created problems and was changed back in v5.1.
Fyi, tablet mode changes the dpi to 160, at the moment i use 200 because 160 is a tad bit small for me.
Good tip tho, interested to see if it creates any issues with Imilika v8..
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So far, I haven't had any issues with Imilka's build. Then again, the stock keyboard still looks funky in portrait tablet mode, but that's nothing new. Everything else works perfectly.
More than anything, this fixes things like tablet portrait Google Music recent's.

sundazetoo said:
So basically ICS has 2 modes, tablet mode and phone mode. To my understanding this is dependent on the dpi, anything lower than 213 dpi will display ICS in tablet mode i.e. 2 panes on most apps. Apparently 160 dpi is the official tablet mode..and i think 320 dpi is the standard phone mode. I currently run mine in 200 dpi and most apps show 2 panes.. I am sure there is a better explanation somewhere
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Absolutely... i don't think just changing the build characteristics parameter to 'tablet' will give you true tablet mode...I guess it will help in apps like music etc where the controls are screwed up in tablet mode...did you try it btw, i mean keeping the DPI below 213 & setting the characteristics to tablet and then check the music app for e.g.

Can sum1 tell me plz ...
what shud i edit in build.prop in order to run gameloft games ...
bcz for default setting it sayz
" your device not compatble blah blah and request for refund "
Using ICS STUNNER ROM
Can ne1 help me out wid dis thing or wts the workaround for this ???

[Q] Whats your LCD density/DPI?

So I've been trying out different LCD densities for a while now, but I always end up using the stock 240. Unfortunately this prevents me from using games I've already purchased, Osmos HD for instance. Now this can easily be solved with, lets just say, less than legal means. But that's a whole 'nother story.
So, what's your density?

ares93 said:
So I've been trying out different LCD densities for a while now, but I always end up using the stock 240. Unfortunately this prevents me from using games I've already purchased, Osmos HD for instance. Now this can easily be solved with, lets just say, less than legal means. But that's a whole 'nother story.
So, what's your density?
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My density is less than legal
Seriously though I have never seen why people have wanted to change from the stock 240? Seems like the perfect density to me to be honest

Nigeldg said:
My density is less than legal
Seriously though I have never seen why people have wanted to change from the stock 240? Seems like the perfect density to me to be honest
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Seriously? I find 240 to make everything ginormigous. I like and use 160, no problems with market either.

elesbb said:
Seriously? I find 240 to make everything ginormigous. I like and use 160, no problems with market either.
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I get what you mean and I could happily live with a lower density, but I neither see the need to change the density nor can be bothered to actually do it, so meh

Nigeldg said:
I get what you mean and I could happily live with a lower density, but I neither see the need to change the density nor can be bothered to actually do it, so meh
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Lazy bum! lol

+1 for 160, also 165 is good, but normal (240) feels gigantic

217 (stock HD2 dpi) looks best to me, but i use 240 because of market compatibility, it's pretty big but i got used to it.
160 is too small and ugly IMHO.

i prefer a dpi 192, the stock 240 is just too big and 160 too small.
but on the other side i have to deal with some market issues sometimes

hi! you can use 192 dpi with the hacked market ofcourse and everything goes smoothly (most of the time). i use 220-240 because i like it and helps me with my drawing-related apps.
i guess it depends on what suites you better. anyway, i would recommend 192 and more unless your eyes can magically magnify things...

normally i use 160 dpi for every gb rom.
but for ics's roms i use the standard 240 dpi.
in my mind it looks best and there are no complications

MungoHigh said:
normally i use 160 dpi for every gb rom.
but for ics's roms i use the standard 240 dpi.
in my mind it looks best and there are no complications
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I understand you're trying to get 10 posts, and you're going about it in sort of the right way (in that you're actually helping people rather than spamming) but please stop bringing up old threads, especially when they're already solved.

Okay,i m sorry for this:s
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Hilariously stupid sharpness fix

Spent the best part of two days trying to fix this i guess... I swear to god if I hadn't figured this out, the phone was being returned!
YMMV, caveat emptor etc.
1) Enable 'Disable HW Overlays' in Developer Settings - won't work without this! Edit: Resets after boot! Anyone know how to automate this?
2) Download Nomone - Resolution Changer from the Play Store
3) I swear to god - change resolution to 1441 x 2561 (edit: changing dpi breaks stock LG apps)
4) Reboot phone - fix should already work but this fixes layout for DPI change.
This doesn't negate the effect entirely but it looks like its 95% gone. Other resolution variants work too but this one has the greatest effect of all the ones I tried.
Picture for proof - sorry for potato quality, my only other camera was an iPad - maybe the difference is less noticable zoomed in, but compare the 'mited' bit to see the biggest difference.
http://i.imgur.com/Ba7tTgj.png
Enjoy, and please let me know if it does/doesn't work for you :good:

RokkaMan said:
Spent the best part of two days trying to fix this i guess... I swear to god if I hadn't figured this out, the phone was being returned!
YMMV, caveat emptor etc.
1) Enable 'Disable HW Overlays' in Developer Settings - won't work without this!
2) Download Nomone - Resolution Changer from the Play Store
3) I swear to god - change resolution to 1441 x 2561 (also change dpi to 540 for layout - not required for fix itself)
4) Reboot phone - fix should already work but this fixes layout for DPI change.
This doesn't negate the effect entirely but it looks like its 95% gone. Other resolution variants work too but this one has the greatest effect of all the ones I tried.
Picture for proof - sorry for potato quality, my only other camera was an iPad - maybe the difference is less noticable zoomed in, but compare the 'mited' bit to see the biggest difference.
http://i.imgur.com/Ba7tTgj.png
Enjoy :good:
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What sharpness are you talking about?
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Helloworld294 said:
What sharpness are you talking about?
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LG use post-processing to artificially enhance the sharpness of the screen - not sure if it varies by model or its an eyesight thing, but some seem to loathe it while others don't even notice it. See this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/figure-how-to-remove-sharpening-t2807761
Compare the 'm i t' bit of that picture i linked - top (default) one has a very strong white outline, while it's barely/not there in the bottom one.

RokkaMan said:
LG use post-processing to artificially enhance the sharpness of the screen - not sure if it varies by model or its an eyesight thing, but some seem to loathe it while others don't even notice it. See this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/figure-how-to-remove-sharpening-t2807761
Compare the 'm i t' bit of that picture i linked - top (default) one has a very strong white outline, while it's barely/not there in the bottom one.
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There's an easy fix for that. The fault is imbalance of the colors/contrast.
The fix is definitely to modify contrast and such either from settings>accessibility>color adjustment or by using trickstermod.
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Helloworld294 said:
There's an easy fix for that. The fault is imbalance of the colors/contrast.
The fix is definitely to modify contrast and such either from settings>accessibility>color adjustment or by using trickstermod.
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Nope, that only makes it worse. It's nothing to do with contrast, read the link for more details.

RokkaMan said:
Spent the best part of two days trying to fix this i guess... I swear to god if I hadn't figured this out, the phone was being returned!
YMMV, caveat emptor etc.
1) Enable 'Disable HW Overlays' in Developer Settings - won't work without this!
2) Download Nomone - Resolution Changer from the Play Store
3) I swear to god - change resolution to 1441 x 2561 ( optional: also change dpi to 540 for better layout - not required for fix itself)
4) Reboot phone - fix should already work but this fixes layout for DPI change.
This doesn't negate the effect entirely but it looks like its 95% gone. Other resolution variants work too but this one has the greatest effect of all the ones I tried.
Picture for proof - sorry for potato quality, my only other camera was an iPad - maybe the difference is less noticable zoomed in, but compare the 'mited' bit to see the biggest difference.
http://i.imgur.com/Ba7tTgj.png
Enjoy, and please let me know if it does/doesn't work for you :good:
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By changing the resolution, doesn't that break native lg apps?

mgbotoe said:
By changing the resolution, doesn't that break native lg apps?
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That resolution is bs, phone resolution=DPI and going below 540 you'll end up with a bootlooping sausage fest.
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Helloworld294 said:
What sharpness are you talking about?
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I own the phone since its release and I still can't see this sharpening thing that people are talking about.

shook187 said:
I own the phone since its release and I still can't see this sharpening thing that people are talking about.
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Exactly my point, even though I've been with AMOLED phones since 2011. I do really not like the constant LCD backlight which messes with dark colors and makes the "Retro TV" lock animation look dumb...
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Helloworld294 said:
That resolution is bs, phone resolution=DPI and going below 540 you'll end up with a bootlooping sausage fest.
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Jesus Christ, who pissed in your corn flakes? Are you going to continue to winge and make unsubstantiated claims in this thread, or do you have anything useful to contribute?
Heres a pic of the set resolution - and no, a lower dpi doesn't cause a bootloop? Wtf? http://i.imgur.com/kaUzPCc.png

RokkaMan said:
Jesus Christ, who pissed in your corn flakes? Are you going to continue to winge and make unsubstantiated claims in this thread, or do you have anything useful to contribute?
Heres a pic of the set resolution - and no, a lower dpi doesn't cause a bootloop? Wtf? http://i.imgur.com/kaUzPCc.png
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You don't believe me? Alright go back to stock resolution, go set DPI at 510 through build.prop and reboot. Goodluck.
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Thanks for the tip! Really like the way the screen looks after this. Only issue I have found so far is Swiftkey won't display properly now.. But the google keyboard and lg keyboard do. Thanks again!

Thanks OP! I do notice the difference, and without changing the DPI it hasn't affected any of my other programs so far.

Is it whiny to ask for more screenshots?

Helloworld294 said:
That resolution is bs, phone resolution=DPI and going below 540 you'll end up with a bootlooping sausage fest.
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Resolution and dpi is not the same hun

I didn't want to waste a spot and say thanks but my phone just FC's the app when trying to use the thanks button. So thank you for the write up and also turning me on to that app. :beer::thumbup:
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The OP is probably bootlooping right now lol
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Doesn't work for me, anti-aliasing still there.

Yeah, I am lost on this sharpening issue too… maybe go get your eyes examimed?
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I don't know how you can't see the sharpening?
It disappeared for me after I changed launchers and dpi (maybe just got used to it) but I definitely noticed it when I first got the phone. Irritated me a lot, put awkward strain of my eyes :/

Changed DPI on my mate 7

Hey guys
Just downloaded this app called Texdroider DPI and changed from 480 (defult) to 450 or 400 or 380(current) 320.
If anybody wants try go ahead... it looks bit nicer..
WARNING : DO NOT CHANGE LESS THAN 320 !!! PHONE MIGHT NOT BOOT !!! OR HOME SCREEN WILL BE CRASHING
MIN : 320
MAX: 480
I haven't tried higher than default 480 ...
Only rooted phones ...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.texdroider.texdroider_dpi

I use ROM Toolbox Lite and change in build.prop. I use at minimum 320.

Xybirium said:
I use ROM Toolbox Lite and change in build.prop. I use at minimum 320.
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but if is 320 the navigation btns are shifted to the left ... Do you have same issue ?

Simona Simmy said:
but if is 320 the navigation btns are shifted to the left ... Do you have same issue ?
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Yup!!! Same issue but I don't mind for the time being.
I usually use FlipBoard (RSS) and the extra screen estate is so much better.

Xybirium said:
Yup!!! Same issue but I don't mind for the time being.
I usually use FlipBoard (RSS) and the extra screen estate is so much better.
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And even when is 320 you will see white effect when u scrolling home pages

Simona Simmy said:
And even when is 320 you will see white effect when u scrolling home pages
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I'm not sure I understand what you mean.

Xybirium said:
I'm not sure I understand what you mean.
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Will post pic later..

is it possible to change DPI without rooting? I don't want to root, not now at least

annoymous1234 said:
is it possible to change DPI without rooting? I don't want to root, not now at least
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Noo..
Why u dont want to root ?

Simona Simmy said:
Noo..
Why u dont want to root ?
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Afraid of voiding warranty

annoymous1234 said:
Afraid of voiding warranty
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u wont loose warranty by rooting phone ..

Simona Simmy said:
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u wont loose warranty by rooting phone ..
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is it?? I thought all phone companies will not accept warranty claim if we unlock the bootloader or root

annoymous1234 said:
is it?? I thought all phone companies will not accept warranty claim if we unlock the bootloader or root
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one guy here managed to lock phone back... dunno if he had it ever unlocked but .. that's what he said

guy
why I change from 480 (defult) to 450 or 400 or 380 or 320
what I get from I do it that ...?

@ Simona Simmy: Thx for the advice! I changed to DPI 380 (320 was a little bit too small for me) and it really is a relief compared to 480, which i find horrible and impossible to work with.
@ baso2000: See it like working with a VGA-resolution (low resolution) on the screen of your desktop PC. In VGA everything looks very big and you don't have a lot of screen space. If you change the resolution (higher) everything will become smaller and you can view full pages on one screen without scrolling. It's the same as working in DPI 480 and changing that to DPI 380 or 320. You have more screen real estate and everthing becomes smaller (no need to scroll) and your phone is more like a tablet.
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Btw, the only negative I could find with changing to DPI 380 is that the EMUI camera app doesn't change. The capture button is not at the bottom of the screen, but in the middle.... :silly:

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[/COLOR]Btw, the only negative I could find with changing to DPI 380 is that the EMUI camera app doesn't change. The capture button is not at the bottom of the screen, but in the middle.... :silly:
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For fix this, use Xposed with Appsetting. You can choose DPI per app with this. Some apps (like camera) doesn't like dpi under 480. I use Appsetting to set defaut DPI. And camera works well with it.
There is a thread for xposed on mate 7. Read it because you have too use an old version. The newest will not work.

I changed to 400 and wow it look so much sharper than when i opened it and the screnn looks even bigger as well
Thanksa

Yes, with stock, It's like use a 25" Pc's screen, with VGA definition....

Hello guys. Can you post some shots of your screen with the differents dpi? I'd like to see if it makes a big difference before i make it on my phone. Thanks.

OK, some screenshots with 360dpi but i'm with nova launcher.