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Aren't samsung phones greate.

Yea our phones have flaws like crappy file systems and a bad gps, but look at the bright side. Our phones cub run on 1.4ghz no problem without even showing signs of over heating. Not only that but w have the best display out there (better then most full hd displays) and we have huge amounts of developers for this phoney because it is 200% hackable. It even has download mode wich means we could restore with a click. Not only that but samsung phones are 100% developer friendly. Samsung was even nice enough not to lock our phones killer the droid phones. Respect what u guys have and appreciate it.

helikido said:
Yea our phones have flaws like crappy file systems and a bad gps, but look at the bright side. Our phones cub run on 1.4ghz no problem without even showing signs of over heating. Not only that but w have the best display out there (better then most full hd displays) and we have huge amounts of developers for this phoney because it is 200% hackable. It even has download mode wich means we could restore with a click. Not only that but samsung phones are 100% developer friendly. Samsung was even nice enough not to lock our phones killer the droid phones. Respect what u guys have and appreciate it.
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i love my phone....hate the people who made it...lol

I love my phone and I hate the op's spelling
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Hell yeah!!!
Samsung is great at hardware... But they should leave software updates to google.

I often forget how nice the screen looks, then I look at a friends phone and see how much it pales in comparison.

Yeah, I am with you that Sammy knows their hardware, but software could use some uppage. Wish my CPU could take 1.4. I've flashed a few OC kernels, it works for a while, but then hangs. Maiya... still an awsome phone.

bbm21 said:
I love my phone and I hate the op's spelling
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this made me lol
but i love my phone awell, 3 of my friends hat their hd2s flashed to android but to me its an abomination..

xriderx66 said:
Hell yeah!!!
Samsung is great at hardware... But they should leave software updates to google.
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+1 totally agree

TouchWiz > * stock android is crap.

this is why the colours were changed

i'm looking through the samsung.git (the kernel source) in the android source, and came across some very interesting commits from Arve Hjønnevåg on this page
http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=kernel/samsung.git;a=shortlog;pg=1
click on the commit link for the details
they point out that the colours were actually wrong, and have now been reset. so, actually, all's good - so stop whining!
personally, i prefer the new colours!
looking through the commit logs is actually really interesting. a really annoying bug in googles where, if you pressed flash, it would turn itself off was fixed here: http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=ke...it;h=65799b8cfd15cb61201a0492d8d7799136c4d440
and the explanation is informative too!

What was the point of "fixing" the colors? It's not a bug.
The colors may have been "wrong" before 2.3.3 but that's how I saw it in the store and that's what it looked like when I bought it. If I saw it at the store with the 2.3.3 colors there's a good chance I would have purchased a different phone.

I prefer the "fixed" colors as well. I mean, would you buy a TV or monitor with inaccurate color representation?

zero383 said:
I prefer the "fixed" colors as well. I mean, would you buy a TV or monitor with inaccurate color representation?
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Maybe, if I liked the way it looked. That's my whole point, I liked the way it looked when I bought it, and that's what I paid for. Bait and switch.

Colors were **** since 2.3.3 dont care what they say I have my own 2 eyes and lol that this "problem" was noticed so late into android
They should at least give the option to change them back threw the settings
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I prefer the "fixed" colors as well. I mean, would you buy a TV or monitor with inaccurate color representation?
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I sure as hell wouldn't want to buy a TV with fixed colors and settings
If you want to get technical most mainstream LCD TV and PC monitors are TN panel and they produce inaccurate colors anyways no matter what settings oyu put them on compared to lets say an IPS which have much more accurate natural colors

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Lol colors are **** since 2.3.3 and OP its colors not colours
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Colours = Canadian / British
Colors = American

thanks learn something new everyday
SORRY MarkusPO
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Colours = Canadian / British
Colors = American
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Countries separated by a common language ;D
Gotta love it.

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What was the point of "fixing" the colors? It's not a bug...The colors may have been "wrong" before 2.3.3.
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things that are generally 'wrong' in software are bugs. your logic is wrong. let's face it, we didn't buy the phone for pretty colours.
and it's not a bug in android, it was a bug in the samsung crespo (nexus s) firmware that's been fixed. only users of the nexus s will see the colour changes. the samsung.git is the boot kernel code.

netarchy said:
Countries separated by a common language ;D
Gotta love it.
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well...calling english a language with its lack of grammar is stretching it a bit too far! most of europe throughout time has looked upon english as being a language for idiots! and besides, american is a subset of english

So are the colors now similar to the Epic or "washed out" as a couple of people have noticed.
I am going to store today to consider change from Epic. I love my phone, dont care as much about GB since it is rooted and rommed to 1.3, however
what I want is the size.
Just not sure about using my upgrade just for size since I know there will be newer, flashier things out, which I also don't know that I really need . .
Such a nice choice to have . .
Any other pros/cons

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If I saw it at the store with the 2.3.3 colors there's a good chance I would have purchased a different phone.
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Really? You base your phone purchasing decision on what the colours look like? No regard for hardware, software, capabilities? Wow. Just wow.

nmoreman said:
So are the colors now similar to the Epic or "washed out" as a couple of people have noticed.
I am going to store today to consider change from Epic. I love my phone, dont care as much about GB since it is rooted and rommed to 1.3, however
what I want is the size.
Just not sure about using my upgrade just for size since I know there will be newer, flashier things out, which I also don't know that I really need . .
Such a nice choice to have . .
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The argument just stems from the fact that the original colours on the Nexus S were over-saturated and were not 'correct' by any definition of valid colour space. Those that accept that there is a 'correct' colour space are generally happy with the change, and so don't consider the colours washed out.
Those that prefer the incorrect colours and over-saturation consider the colours to now be washed out.
As for pros and cons of the Nexus S, check out the many other threads giving detailed reviews or 'compare and contrast' opinion pieces.
For me the biggest seller to getting a Nexus S was the fact that updates come straight from Google (previously was on Milestone and Motorola are crap at providing timely updates), closely followed by the speed and responsiveness of the phone in general.

shamarama said:
Really? You base your phone purchasing decision on what the colours look like? No regard for hardware, software, capabilities? Wow. Just wow.
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lol what do you think most people do before they buy a TV
you look the your screen 99% of the time you use the phone it plays a huge part in hardware decision for allot even its its colors
like someone said earlier its called bait and switch
and whats worst with this is that they are fixed with the exception of kernel with voodoo
Also i never seen once person complain before about the colors Google used prior to the update
BUT now that this "problem" was fixed i see tons of people complaining including me and then other just lay back and except it becasue Google said it was a good choice
also try owning a phone prior to this with OLED like i did with my nexus one and vibrant...even WP7 has accurate colors for and OLED panel.
Google is just made a stupid decision.
FYI im huge into hardware ill bet im one of the top enthusiast when it comes to this stuff ...mainly PC hardware

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lol what do you think most people do before they buy a TV
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apples and oranges.
still, google and samsung even give you the complete source code for your phone, so, you can:
a) continue to whine and have it fall on deaf ears.
b) buckle up and modify the source code to your heart's content and hell, maybe even fix other problems.
c) use an existing solution.
whatever you choose, no one really cares, you're either happy, or if not, make the change.
so, start today.
make the change
'cause i'm standing with the... uh... oh.

not apples and oranges since they are FIXED on the nexus S
MarkusPO what model phone are you using?
If you're using SLCD you have no say in this..well at least my rant im talking about OLED like i said numerous times
color change impacts both screen types differently

demo23019 said:
thanks learn something new everyday
SORRY MarkusPO
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lmfao...
10 char
I know on Cyanogenmod for the Evo it had an option to change the colors on the screen... does the Nexus S version have that as well?

shamarama said:
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I didn't say that at all. There are plenty of other Android phones with similar capabilities and the screen was one of the factors.

They can say whatever they want my screen is now yellow ,I've even asked ppl at work who's never even looked at my phone before, what color is the white,and everyone says a tanish yellow color....smh
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Raver27 said:
what color is the white,and everyone says a tanish yellow color....smh
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exactly white is not white and this also impacts the contrast and that ultimately impacts the colors...they did this to conserve battery not that it look better
derekwilkinson said:
lmfao...
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im sure you're far from perfect ...
im sure i can go threw your post history i can dig something up

[POLL] Who wants to enable Samsung's mdnie on CM9?

So today I flashed CM9 Beta 1, and I noticed the screen was different. The colors were fine, but the text was fuzzy and the icons were blurry. I didn't realize that this was because they disabled Samsung's mdnie coloring, which in my opinion, made the text look a lot better. So who hopes for Beta 2 that they re-enable the old colors because it looks awful now! I know this sounds immature, but I've seen so many complaints and I have to agree.

Where is the poll?
Also, please include an option for "indifferent".
My ol' eyes cant tell one from the other...
edit: Ha! Guess I was just to fast, and thanks for the I dont care option!

It looks good too me.. I won't vote yet, I may need to flash back to double check but I am pleased so far..

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It looks good too me.. I won't vote yet, I may need to flash back to double check but I am pleased so far..
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I just compared. The text is MUCH better in CM9 beta0. Honestly.

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I just compared. The text is MUCH better in CM9 beta0. Honestly.
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Got a place I can check that I could tell better than others?
My eyes ain't what they used to be, and I would like to see if I can tell, where it is supposed to be most obvious.
Still, I would rather an option to switch it on/off over stuck with one or the other, if possible.
When it comes to Android, I always tend to go with the "more options" path

God I agree with this. Please change it back. I'm getting more use to it but it does not really look all that better, and has more negatives than positives.
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I can live with it. It is certainly not a deal breaker for me, as I can tell the difference from beta0.

It doesn't look any different to me...I guess that means I don't give a crap. More free RAM sounds good to me.
Anyone have some screenies to show us the difference?

RyleyinSTL said:
It doesn't look any different to me...I guess that means I don't give a crap. More free RAM sounds good to me.
Any have some screenies to show us the difference?
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Screenies won't help. It mods the display. Camera photos will work. I notice a smoother fade on the settings app and keyboard.
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marcusant said:
Screenies won't help. It mods the display. Camera photos will work. I notice a smoother fade on the settings app and keyboard.
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I definitely notice its smoother in the settings app and i like that. However i wish the text would still render i bit better and i hope that they re-enable mdnie in beta2, or at least find a way to improve the text while keeping the smoothness in some other areas. Idk. Back to beta0 for me.
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RyleyinSTL said:
It doesn't look any different to me...I guess that means I don't give a crap. More free RAM sounds good to me.
Anyone have some screenies to show us the difference?
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I retracted my statement about the RAM as this doesn't actually free up any RAM. That was something else they modified.
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I just compared. The text is MUCH better in CM9 beta0. Honestly.
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I totally agree. My eyes hurt for a minute trying to focus.
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Someone should post side by side screen shots for the poll.

judogti said:
Someone should post side by side screen shots for the poll.
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You cant because the camera wont recognize it any differently. Without any bias, id say you just have to try them out yourself.
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The colors on my screen look more natural, but I don't notice any difference in text. I switched the kernel several times. I guess everyone's phone is affected differently.
Maybe it's something more complicated like differently manufactured screens or something (just taking a shot in the dark).

Some areas are better than others. I see it with black text on gray. There is a difference. Small, but you get the colors right you'll see it. Smaller the font the better it gets too.
I vote back or options.

I've been using voodoo color and then I updated to beta 1 and the white color is way off it looks like to me but it could just be not use to using my phone without voodoo
Epic 4g, CM9 Beta, EL30, Shadow

this was most likely removed due to the fact that CM roms use nothing from the OEM. If the is an OEM setting it will never be added to CM roms.

zelendel said:
this was most likely removed due to the fact that CM roms use nothing from the OEM. If the is an OEM setting it will never be added to CM roms.
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No, this was removed because the devs on "our" end were experimenting with it. They even claimed they were unsure what it did, but that Noobnl said it looked better without it. Read the blog there's more info there. They are also letting people test a temp boot kernel with it re-enabled so they can decide before the next release whether to re-enable it or not. I just with in the meantime that they would release a perm flashable of the alternate kernel isntead of just the temp bootable.
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Zeinzu said:
No, this was removed because the devs on "our" end were experimenting with it. They even claimed they were unsure what it did, but that Noobnl said it looked better without it. Read the blog there's more info there. They are also letting people test a temp boot kernel with it re-enabled so they can decide before the next release whether to re-enable it or not. I just with in the meantime that they would release a perm flashable of the alternate kernel isntead of just the temp bootable.
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Really? I'll have to check with the CM team as they make it a point to never add any OEM features or settings. If its not part of the AOSP coding or CM coding then normally it is not added to Official from versions

Quad-core, 1GB ram + jellybean & widget menu lags everytime

Is this real life? Can't Samsung allocate some ram for it and cache it so I doesn't lag on start up everytime?

Isn't JB still unofficial?

Yes jellybean is still unofficial, but I still get this On ics

I just find it weird that I can play nova 3 flawlessly yet lag in the widgets menu. Samsung need to fix this.

Wait for official Jellybean.
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Aye. The widgets menu always lags. It's pretty annoying that a quad-core phone with 1GB of RAM can't handle such a simple task.

I think samsung forgot to include "Project Butter" for jelly bean s3

Seriously... What's wrong with this phone? It's really is a huge disappointment isn't it. My old s2 way out performs this thing. I bet even the huawei accend performs better. Prob worth replacing this with it! Doesn't it have 2gb of ram too?

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I think samsung forgot to include "Project Butter" for jelly bean s3
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Don't think smoothness is their highest priority right now, but to work out all of the bugs. They'll work on smoothing it out after it has been released. That's at least how they've always done it, not that their original firmwares haven't always been smooth, but they are almost always a lot better when they mature. The original firmwares for the SGS2 were really slow, but Samsung managed to improve the performance by a lot in later firmwares and the same goes for the SGS3.
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mwatson said:
Seriously... What's wrong with this phone? It's really is a huge disappointment isn't it. My old s2 way out performs this thing. I bet even the huawei accend performs better. Prob worth replacing this with it! Doesn't it have 2gb of ram too?
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Please buy a huawei and don't let the door hit you on the way out!

Please buy a huawei and don't let the door hit you on the way out!
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You must be a school child judging by your reply. It's like you've taken my comment as a personal remark about yourself bless you. Remember.. This is just a phone. No tribal allegiances required.

mwatson said:
Seriously... What's wrong with this phone? It's really is a huge disappointment isn't it. My old s2 way out performs this thing. I bet even the huawei accend performs better. Prob worth replacing this with it! Doesn't it have 2gb of ram too?
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You must be a school child judging by your reply. It's like you've taken my comment as a personal remark about yourself bless you. Remember.. This is just a phone. No tribal allegiances required.
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Oh my god...Seriously?
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mwatson said:
Seriously... What's wrong with this phone? It's really is a huge disappointment isn't it. My old s2 way out performs this thing. I bet even the huawei accend performs better. Prob worth replacing this with it! Doesn't it have 2gb of ram too?
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If you are dissapointed then you don't use your phone as it is ment to... sad to say!
For me SG3 is WAY better than SG2, it runs well, it's smooth as hell, impresive battery, great gaming and screen... OH! But it lags when entring Widgets menu, a menu I hardly touch on the first day I configure my phone or maybe if I install some new app!
But hey, it's worth throwing it to the bin because of it, who wants a laggy widget menú?
Omfg I'm hardly impressed some times in here...
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You must be a school child judging by your reply. It's like you've taken my comment as a personal remark about yourself bless you. Remember.. This is just a phone. No tribal allegiances required.
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No need on personal attacks anyway, he just comented what we all think about your comment...

Lol how is the gs2 better than gs3 haha
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mwatson said:
Seriously... What's wrong with this phone? It's really is a huge disappointment isn't it. My old s2 way out performs this thing. I bet even the huawei accend performs better. Prob worth replacing this with it! Doesn't it have 2gb of ram too?
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You must be a school child judging by your reply. It's like you've taken my comment as a personal remark about yourself bless you. Remember.. This is just a phone. No tribal allegiances required.
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This is why sometimes I hate xda -no offince-
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I agree wtf is the widget draw lagging for ' you'd think they'd alacate a touch of ram for some kind of stay in memory script like apex launcher does for launcher its simple really but Samsung devs suck [email protected] at common sense' hopefully they'll pull there finger out on official jb and nullify the (error) before a custom rom Dev writes a script to fix the issue and maybe they'll fix the grey cloud issue on lock screen with there much hyped ripple effect using black wallpapers ' this phone should not lagg, jerk,stutter or redraw period, p.s I luv my nearly perfect s3 rant over
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Toss3 said:
Don't think smoothness is their highest priority right now, but to work out all of the bugs. They'll work on smoothing it out after it has been released. That's at least how they've always done it, not that their original firmwares haven't always been smooth, but they are almost always a lot better when they mature. The original firmwares for the SGS2 were really slow, but Samsung managed to improve the performance by a lot in later firmwares and the same goes for the SGS3.
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I can compromise on smoothness because I know custom kernals and custom roms will handle that job pretty fine. All I want now is the bugs to be fixed, esp fc bugs.

Ausboy 2011 said:
Lol how is the gs2 better than gs3 haha
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Zero lag. Brighter screen. More available ram. Better audio in video recorder app.

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Zero lag. Brighter screen. More available ram. Better audio in video recorder app.
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S3 has a better quality screen, mine has zero lag and as of right now this is how my ram looks.
Audio is fixed in the JB leaks.
You just don't know how to set yours up right is all.
"You come at the king, you best not miss." - Omar Little.

MuertoKo said:
If you are dissapointed then you don't use your phone as it is ment to... sad to say!
For me SG3 is WAY better than SG2, it runs well, it's smooth as hell, impresive battery, great gaming and screen... OH! But it lags when entring Widgets menu, a menu I hardly touch on the first day I configure my phone or maybe if I install some new app!
But hey, it's worth throwing it to the bin because of it, who wants a laggy widget menú?
Omfg I'm hardly impressed some times in here...
No need on personal attacks anyway, he just comented what we all think about your comment...
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I don't think the way you do about your comment. I do agree with him about what he said that the s2 runs better because I actually compared them both and the s2 runs faster and smoother. Also it is useless when you say "it runs well, its smooth as hell..." when you are trying to justify a comparison.. The s3 does run well, and it is smooth (well not really) but comparing it to the s2 we get the s2 as a winner. Try looking at the ram usage for the s3 and the s2, the s3 is almost always locked at 470+ and maximum is 780, the s2 with recently cleared memory has 200 mbs of ram used, and can reach up to 800.
So don't attack him just because you are too self righteous about your opinion. He has a point.

Android isn't really optimised for muli-core, only one can be used at any time. The SII runs better as it's lighter with less bloatware, don't buy a phone purely for the fact it has great specs because until Android can fully utilise all 4 cores you're no better off than someone who has 2.
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Xl users over 40

So I'll be the first to admit that phone's new screens with small text have gotten a tad bit harder to read, when my eyes get tired, especially the percent on the battery icon it's tiny.
So I wanted to know from you girls and guys what settings do you have it at under accessibility? Is anyone using a different font?
I left my font as default but change the display too large.
Please share your settings

I set the font size to large in display settings and that's been fine for me. I also increased the text size in chrome to 125%.

make the font larger, problem solved

clockcycle said:
So I'll be the first to admit that phone's new screens with small text have gotten a tad bit harder to read, when my eyes get tired, especially the percent on the battery icon it's tiny.
So I wanted to know from you girls and guys what settings do you have it at under accessibility? Is anyone using a different font?
I left my font as default but change the display too large.
Please share your settings
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Change the DPI in developers options

I gave up years ago, just use reading glasses and curse everybody that says a 5.5 inch device is too big.

Font Size = Small
Display = Default
I am 69.

DIXZ06 said:
Font Size = Small
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I am 69.
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How's the percent on battery icon on nav bar look?
I'm assuming you don't use glasses.

I really, really miss the old Xposed module "App Settings" that let you change the DPI on a per-app basis.
Some apps have built in font size changers, such as Chrome and Wikipedia.
But others don't and that's where App Settings came in handy.
For battery, I installed the WETA for 3 minute mod to give me a battery indicator I could see better.
Otherwise, I have my font set to normal and my display set a bit larger.
Works great for most things.
Font looks funky for a few things.
I really wish the status bar icons, clock & battery could all be universally resized.
I just noticed that 3 Minute Battery Mod lets you resize the custom battery icons it has. Most excellent. :good:

The smaller the better. I like to see as much info as possible. Still have 20/20 *knock on wood*
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Sorry for off topic... but I just wanna say it's awesome that 40-year-olds are buying the greatest and latest from Google

40 is the new 20.

I'll be 40 next year, and as much as I loved the 6P, it was just to large for 1 handed use. Wanted the pixel but my bad eyes required the larger XL.

gregk232 said:
Sorry for off topic... but I just wanna say it's awesome that 40-year-olds are buying the greatest and latest from Google
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What? Do you think 40 somethings are too old to be geeks? ? I'll be 48 in Feb.
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trickster2369 said:
What? Do you think 40 somethings are too old to be geeks? ? I'll be 48 in Feb.
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Hell, I was 21 when the first iPhone came out. And I was like.. "wtf would in want a touchscreen phone?!?"
So, yeah, y'all are champs

I'm not ready for the jitter bug phone yet.
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Sorry for off topic... but I just wanna say it's awesome that 40-year-olds are buying the greatest and latest from Google
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I made everything as small as possible. I'm 38....

gregk232 said:
Sorry for off topic... but I just wanna say it's awesome that 40-year-olds are buying the greatest and latest from Google
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47 here. Always the latest and greatest, which is an expensive habit that causes marital stress sometimes, but idgaf. It's who I am, damnit.
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meatlocker said:
47 here. Always the latest and greatest, which is an expensive habit that causes marital stress sometimes, but idgaf. It's who I am, damnit.
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Buy her one too... Haha

41 here, and I go through cell phones like toilet paper. In the past 24 months I've had the Note 4, Nexus 6, Galaxy S6, Note 5, Nexus 6P, Note 7 (R.I.P), and now the Pixel XL! My two teenagers give me dirty looks when I say "let's go check out what's new at Best Buy" or "let's stop by the Verizon store", lol!
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I know many 60 year olds who are far more savvy, technologically advanced and productive than current 20-40 year olds.
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