So my question is quite simple, and before I get flamed, yes I have tried searching. I don't think I'm typing the correct sequence of words if there is already something on this. I never post obviously, I normally creep and derive my answers that way. Obvious again that I've been here since 2012
My question is if there is a way / guide to overwrite/reprogram the phone with the AT&T firmware and software and replace the Verizon that is currently on the device. I brought the phone over from Verizon to AT&T and there are just a couple complications that are just a bother and Just over it.
I would appreciate any guidance and information any of you could provide on the subject.
RonniEdwards said:
So my question is quite simple, and before I get flamed, yes I have tried searching. I don't think I'm typing the correct sequence of words if there is already something on this. I never post obviously, I normally creep and derive my answers that way. Obvious again that I've been here since 2012
My question is if there is a way / guide to overwrite/reprogram the phone with the AT&T firmware and software and replace the Verizon that is currently on the device. I brought the phone over from Verizon to AT&T and there are just a couple complications that are just a bother and Just over it.
I would appreciate any guidance and information any of you could provide on the subject.
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I don't know if you can from a user stand point but when I was shopping around t-mobile store told me they would copy their firmware onto the phone so I could try their network. You may need to go to a store and talk to someone.
Since Verizon is CDMA and AT&T is GSM, I am not sure a simple firmware update is all that is needed to switch.
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Since Verizon is CDMA and AT&T is GSM, I am not sure a simple firmware update is all that is needed to switch.
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That's what I thought but they insisted they could do it. Maybe since there is a Sim slot it's easier on the the 3's.
Years ago you could almost swap sim cards and be good. Idk about it anymore. I think you would have to take all the system files/partitions and the radio and swap them for the carriers. Im sure someone else whos more, but i think it would be unreasonably hard to do.
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This thread is moving to T-Mobile, but the concept is the same for AT&T
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2582747
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i believe that some services would work as the phone has some radios in it for the att bands, but you would be better off trading for an att version. swappa has stuff like that all the time to straight trade
Getting service to work and getting 4Glte was no issue. That just required me to manually input APNs that were AT&T specific and presto I have service and all that jazz. My issue is a couple of other small things that really aren't big hut just thst, annoying. That's why I was seeing about the software and firmware being flashed into the device.
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I can't seem to find any legitimate way to root my G900A from AT&T.
I was with Sprint with my S4, and never had an issue. I made the switch to AT&T before buying the S5.. Was that mistake?
In all the threads I've combed through here there is one common, glaring, issue.. The G900A is not included in the supported devices.
Am I missing something obvious or am I screwed? Or am I just looking too soon?
Already gave the S4 to my daughter.
Thanks for any information or insight.
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I can't seem to find any legitimate way to root my G900A from AT&T.
I was with Sprint with my S4, and never had an issue. I made the switch to AT&T before buying the S5.. Was that mistake?
In all the threads I've combed through here there is one common, glaring, issue.. The G900A is not included in the supported devices.
Am I missing something obvious or am I screwed? Or am I just looking too soon?
Already gave the S4 to my daughter.
Thanks for any information or insight.
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Here is a universal root method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2717061
Try to talk with a recovery developer to check your partition table.
(Other variant may have matching partition table with your variant)
I guess, @PlayfulGod can help you with it.
ACiD0N said:
I can't seem to find any legitimate way to root my G900A from AT&T.
I was with Sprint with my S4, and never had an issue. I made the switch to AT&T before buying the S5.. Was that mistake?
In all the threads I've combed through here there is one common, glaring, issue.. The G900A is not included in the supported devices.
Am I missing something obvious or am I screwed? Or am I just looking too soon?
Already gave the S4 to my daughter.
Thanks for any information or insight.
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SandeepEmekar said:
Here is a universal root method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2717061
Try to talk with a recovery developer to check your partition table.
(Other variant may have matching partition table with your variant)
I guess, @PlayfulGod can help you with it.
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I'm sure eventually a root method will come about for that model. Unfortunately tho, the vzw & att models have a locked bootloader and most likely locked down with knox as well and currently no way to boot custom recoveries or kernels.
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I'm sure eventually a root method will come about for that model. Unfortunately tho, the vzw & att models have a locked bootloader and most likely locked down with knox as well and currently no way to boot custom recoveries or kernels.
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@PlayfulGod is absolutely right. Even if an exploit is found for the AT&T or Verizon models, it is unlikely that you'll ever have full root access - thanks to the combination of locked bootloaders, KNOX, and SELinux.
Check your contract - most carriers have a 14-day "buyer's remorse" period in which you can return your handset. You might be faced with a $35-$50 "restocking fee", but depending on how desperate you are for custom ROMs and/or Recovery, it may be worth it to you. Please note that your carrier may try everything they can to stop you from leaving (in terms of talking you out of it). Your contact with AT&T should also have a "back-out" period of 30 days (unless that's changed recently).
Couple other notes:
1) That's the primary reason I switched from AT&T to TMO when I jumped from the S4 to the S5 - I was sick of locked bootloaders. Otherwise, I really just like TMO a lot more as a company, including some of their political standpoints.
2) I've heard of several people now buying TMO S5's and taking them over to AT&T. It's a lot of money up front, but might be worth it to you.
Good luck.
Thanks guys
Thank you for the informative replies. They confirmed what I had already gathered, piece by piece, in a decent comprehensive manner so I appreciate it.
Unfortunately, this time around we gamed the system a bit and went in on this as a 'group' for the services and phones. As far as I can tell, as an individual, I don't have any options of returning the unit in favor of moving to another provider.
Besides that, I finally have good service where I live. I am in the middle of a city but my actual home was in a crap spot with Sprint. After doing research we found that we'd all have great service with AT&T. If the trade-off is no root, so be it I suppose. (Though I have heard that T-Mo has the same service in the same areas due to using the same connectivity)
The knox deal doesn't concern me so much.. This may be a bit cocky (and a little stupid), but I have yet to have to replace a galaxy since they started putting them out *knock on wood*. But it sounds like that's only one issue in a sea of others.
Long-winded story short, Thanks guys. I am much more informed on my situation than before. :good:
ACiD0N said:
I can't seem to find any legitimate way to root my G900A from AT&T.
I was with Sprint with my S4, and never had an issue. I made the switch to AT&T before buying the S5.. Was that mistake?
In all the threads I've combed through here there is one common, glaring, issue.. The G900A is not included in the supported devices.
Am I missing something obvious or am I screwed? Or am I just looking too soon?
Already gave the S4 to my daughter.
Thanks for any information or insight.
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I expressly bought a G900W8 model because of the locked bootloader issue with AT&T. I've come from Verizon on the S4, and I wasn't doing the whole locked thing again - it was annoying and I just wasn't going to have it. What I did was buy an S5 from AT&T on a $25/month installment plan, turn around and sold it on Swappa for full price, and bought an unlocked W8 model the same day. I payed virtually nothing except shipping, I get a nice unlocked phone ready for AOSP when it comes out, and I didn't have to pay the ridiculous $650 price for what would be essentially a developer unlocked phone.
If your phone is still new and you think you could sell it and get mint condition pricing on it, do your research on the G900T model. That's TMobile's phone, but it has an unlocked bootloader, can be rooted/flashed/whatever you like, and if I remember correctly (please someone correct me if I'm wrong), it works on all the bands that AT&T does and will be virtually the same as far as mobile data goes. If you already have your service activated on your current AT&T phone, you can literally just swap the SIM card out and you shouldn't have any issues after that. There might be a little caveat as far as having an AT&T SIM in a Tmo phone, but as far as I've read on the forum, this is very easy to get past; you may very well not have any problems whatsoever.
You could look for the W8 model, which wouldn't have any carrier branding on it, but those were hard to come by for me on Swappa, and the unlocked listing the main page gives you is for a phone that doesn't support 4G.
So like I said, if you think you could sell it, and you find a good listing on Swappa for an unlocked phone, I say go for it. Having an unlocked bootloader is going to put your device in a good place as far as updates go, and once developers start pushing out polished custom ROMs, you'll be happy to use your device for longer than the year's use that is generally expected.
I decided to follow a buddies advise and save $100 and order a verizon s5 instead of ordering a no brand, unlocked one on ebay. it is basically the same phone for specs and what not, just verizon bloated. So, i bought it and called att and got the sim card activated with the phone and now my phone has data and phone. my problelms are this:
I want to get rid of all the bloat stuff
I cant use the tethering on anything because it wants a verizon subscription and i am with att.
my data speed isnt the 4g/LTE that i should be getting. according to the att rep, PROBABLY because it is a verizon phone. i get H+ speed,
which a buddy tells me is basically "3.5G".....lol
i have been able to get root access as one of the fellow techs at the shop is pretty good with this stuff. but he tells me that everything he sees/knows,
it cant be done because of the bootloader they used.
is there anything i can do to be able to do the tethering and get my speeds up? that at least would be suff!! i am a computer tech so i can follow some direction if you
can just point me in the right direction, i would be ever so grateful. thanks in advance....
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i have done some research and found this tool called safestrap. LOVING IT! was able to get it installed and working with little to no effort. downloaded a couple of roms and loaded them into a rom slot(not stock) and everything is what i wanted with the exception of my data speed. still cant seem to get the 4g/lte working no matter what. ATT claims it is because it is a verizon phone...most likely. got the bloat stuff off and the tethering is working now. only issues now is the damn data speed. connected to wifi most of the time but when i am not, wow...is it alot slower than usual. any help on that would be great!! thanks again peeps....your site is AWESOME!!!
MjrMalfunkshn said:
i have done some research and found this tool called safestrap. LOVING IT! was able to get it installed and working with little to no effort. downloaded a couple of roms and loaded them into a rom slot(not stock) and everything is what i wanted with the exception of my data speed. still cant seem to get the 4g/lte working no matter what. ATT claims it is because it is a verizon phone...most likely. got the bloat stuff off and the tethering is working now. only issues now is the damn data speed. connected to wifi most of the time but when i am not, wow...is it alot slower than usual. any help on that would be great!! thanks again peeps....your site is AWESOME!!!
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There's no help to give. You can't get 4G speeds on AT&T or T-Mobile with a Verizon phone.
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There's no help to give. You can't get 4G speeds on AT&T or T-Mobile with a Verizon phone.
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i am finding that you would be correct...lol. have had a couple of different roms in the phone the last couple of days and find that i dont hit 4g hardly at all. once in a great moon it will come up but as quick as it does, it is gone. i appreciate all the nfo and help you guys have been.
landshark68 said:
There's no help to give. You can't get 4G speeds on AT&T or T-Mobile with a Verizon phone.
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I read on one site that you can actually switch S5s to other CSC codes by loading the desired stock firmware and using Kies. It said Kies sees the mismatched CSC and uses the one loaded instead of the device's. I haven't tried it, but I was wondering if anyone has?
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I read on one site that you can actually switch S5s to other CSC codes by loading the desired stock firmware and using Kies. It said Kies sees the mismatched CSC and uses the one loaded instead of the device's. I haven't tried it, but I was wondering if anyone has?
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i have not tried this as i am new to the whole modding my phone thing. would be curious if this would work. i am loving most of the roms on here.
Many thanks to those here who are willing and able to help.
My sister was given a sm-g900v, which is currently on Verizon. She has an account with GCI and took the phone to the GCI store. At the store, they told her that the phone is unlocked, but needs to be flashed in order to work with GCI.
I have searched through this forum and cannot find any "GCI" specific rom. What do I need to flash her phone with to enable it to work on GCI?
I have flashed Motorola phones before, so I think that I could flash it, I just have never used an S5, nor have I used GCI.
Thanks in advance!
AlaskaLinuxUser said:
Many thanks to those here who are willing and able to help.
My sister was given a sm-g900v, which is currently on Verizon. She has an account with GCI and took the phone to the GCI store. At the store, they told her that the phone is unlocked, but needs to be flashed in order to work with GCI.
I have searched through this forum and cannot find any "GCI" specific rom. What do I need to flash her phone with to enable it to work on GCI?
I have flashed Motorola phones before, so I think that I could flash it, I just have never used an S5, nor have I used GCI.
Thanks in advance!
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I would think the best place to ask for firmware is GCI provider. Their network, they should know where and how to get the firmware!
buhohitr said:
I would think the best place to ask for firmware is GCI provider. Their network, they should know where and how to get the firmware!
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Thanks, but that is why I am here. They do not seem to have any information on that (e.g., they are not very helpful or not very bright). I've been down this road before with my (other) sister's last phone, an S4. GCI said that they don't flash phones. They sent us across the street to Verizon to have them flash it. Verizon said that the phone is unlocked and works for their network, and if we want to use a different network, it is the responsibility of the new network provider to flash the phone. In my S4 sister's case, we just bought her a different phone. I am trying to avoid that with this sister's S5. It is getting kind of expensive to keep buying new phones because of a stinky carrier.
As you can see, this presents a redundant hamster wheel affect.
Perhaps part of the problem is Alaska's GCI service.
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Thanks, but that is why I am here. They do not seem to have any information on that (e.g., they are not very helpful or not very bright). I've been down this road before with my (other) sister's last phone, an S4. GCI said that they don't flash phones. They sent us across the street to Verizon to have them flash it. Verizon said that the phone is unlocked and works for their network, and if we want to use a different network, it is the responsibility of the new network provider to flash the phone. In my S4 sister's case, we just bought her a different phone. I am trying to avoid that with this sister's S5. It is getting kind of expensive to keep buying new phones because of a stinky carrier.
As you can see, this presents a redundant hamster wheel affect.
Perhaps part of the problem is Alaska's GCI service.
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So my question would be, should I use GCI? how is the software will be upgrading going forward? I wouldn't mess around with provider that smart enough to support the device. You will have more headache going forward, just my thoughts.
buhohitr said:
So my question would be, should I use GCI? how is the software will be upgrading going forward? I wouldn't mess around with provider that smart enough to support the device. You will have more headache going forward, just my thoughts.
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I couldn't agree more! That's why I don't use GCI. However, in Alaska there are limited resources depending upon where you live. For the area they live in, GCI and Verizon are the networks with good signal. Thanks for your thoughts though!
Ok so I have done some research on this topic, but i still have many questions. I have a virgin mobile s7 which i had to buy directly from them (i do not understand why though) and the phone says it is g930p (as if it were sprint). I know that virgin mobile is powered by the sprint network, but many things are still unclear to me. I would appreciate it if you guys could clear up some things for me. (I live in the USA btw)
1. Are there any differences in root method for the virgin galaxy s7 as compared to the sprint? I have been led to believe that there isn't, but i would appreciate knowing for sure. The reason why i am concerned is because it seems like root causes some problems with LTE and im wondering if the solutions would be the same across providers.
2. If i wanted to I could unlock my phone through virgin and use it with other cdma carriers right? For example, could i switch to sprint network?
3. Are there any other differences between sprint and virgin mobile galaxy s7's besides that they use different networks?
4. Would other guides such as gaining hotspot without root work on my virgin mobile galaxy s7?
5. If you have some spare time, I would appreciate a post that outlines all of the notable differences between a sprint galaxy s7 and a virgin mobile galaxy s7.
Thanks in advance!
Is something wrong?
It has been about two weeks since i made this post, and there has been no response. Is this typical of this website, (it is my first post so i do not know) or is there something about my question that is driving people off?
TheChap said:
It has been about two weeks since i made this post, and there has been no response. Is this typical of this website, (it is my first post so i do not know) or is there something about my question that is driving people off?
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No difference in the phones. They are the exact same physical models. The root method should be the same, but you will have to do the option for hands free activation.
You won't be able to use it on sprint postpaid unless you find someone who is willing to switch it in the database...could be hard to do.
Hotspot guides will work, but you will have to flash the U firmware if you have a newer firmware.
Hope this helps.
Thanks
lvpre said:
No difference in the phones. They are the exact same physical models. The root method should be the same, but you will have to do the option for hands free activation.
You won't be able to use it on sprint postpaid unless you find someone who is willing to switch it in the database...could be hard to do.
Hotspot guides will work, but you will have to flash the U firmware if you have a newer firmware.
Hope this helps.
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I appreciate the reply a lot. These things may be intuitive, but this is only my second time rooting a phone so i wanted to be sure i understood it correctly. Now i can start rooting with peace of mind. Thanks Again!
Ok I have been reading about this from multiple resources and haven't seen a direct answer to my issue so I wanted to ask the community here. I want to thank everyone In advanced for taking time to read this and help me out.
I purchased a US Sprint S8 from a friend. He's called them and they unlocked the phone for us. I am attempting to add it to my Verizon plan. They are giving me the run around stating the IMEI isn't compatible. I am not seeing how this is possible as the S8 is showing it's both CDMA & GSM compatible. One rep in their tech support stated they could add the IMEI into their database and that will help resolve this, which was two days ago when they submitted that request (48 hour turnaround). I follow up with them and they are telling me it's not CDMA compatible blah blah blah. Now, the other thing worth mentioning is that when I take my Verizon SIM and insert into the sprint S8, it states that it's not a valid SIM.
Anyone recommend what's the best course of action here? I'm not the most savvy person when it comes to dealing with Odin and rooting the phone. Worse case scenario I am going to drop this thing on ebay and try to recover my expense.
Have a great day!
Holleman67 said:
Ok I have been reading about this from multiple resources and haven't seen a direct answer to my issue so I wanted to ask the community here. I want to thank everyone In advanced for taking time to read this and help me out.
I purchased a US Sprint S8 from a friend. He's called them and they unlocked the phone for us. I am attempting to add it to my Verizon plan. They are giving me the run around stating the IMEI isn't compatible. I am not seeing how this is possible as the S8 is showing it's both CDMA & GSM compatible. One rep in their tech support stated they could add the IMEI into their database and that will help resolve this, which was two days ago when they submitted that request (48 hour turnaround). I follow up with them and they are telling me it's not CDMA compatible blah blah blah. Now, the other thing worth mentioning is that when I take my Verizon SIM and insert into the sprint S8, it states that it's not a valid SIM.
Anyone recommend what's the best course of action here? I'm not the most savvy person when it comes to dealing with Odin and rooting the phone. Worse case scenario I am going to drop this thing on ebay and try to recover my expense.
Have a great day!
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The it's not CDMA is bull, Sprint is a CDMA carrier. The Sprint S8 also Supports Band 13.
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what model do you have?
My understanding is only 1 model is sold in the US, the SM-G950U. Has CDMA and all the LTE bands used in the US. Carriers just add their own bloatware.
Maybe you need a specific verizon sim. I know sprint needs specific sims for certain phones.
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what model do you have?
My understanding is only 1 model is sold in the US, the SM-G950U. Has CDMA and all the LTE bands used in the US. Carriers just add their own bloatware.
Maybe you need a specific verizon sim. I know sprint needs specific sims for certain phones.
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The model in the US is SM-G950U on all carriers.
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Holleman67 said:
Ok I have been reading about this from multiple resources and haven't seen a direct answer to my issue so I wanted to ask the community here. I want to thank everyone In advanced for taking time to read this and help me out.
I purchased a US Sprint S8 from a friend. He's called them and they unlocked the phone for us. I am attempting to add it to my Verizon plan. They are giving me the run around stating the IMEI isn't compatible. I am not seeing how this is possible as the S8 is showing it's both CDMA & GSM compatible. One rep in their tech support stated they could add the IMEI into their database and that will help resolve this, which was two days ago when they submitted that request (48 hour turnaround). I follow up with them and they are telling me it's not CDMA compatible blah blah blah. Now, the other thing worth mentioning is that when I take my Verizon SIM and insert into the sprint S8, it states that it's not a valid SIM.
Anyone recommend what's the best course of action here? I'm not the most savvy person when it comes to dealing with Odin and rooting the phone. Worse case scenario I am going to drop this thing on ebay and try to recover my expense.
Have a great day!
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I am thinking that you may need to flash the unlocked firmware(G950U1) to your phone, which is XAA. Unlocked firmware includes many US CSC codes that should be compatible with most US carriers. Your Sprint phone may only have its own CSC which could be SPR, but Verizon's CSC is VZW.
Check out this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/snap-guide-flashing-standard-fw-carrier-t3625817 Ask your question on that thread as well.
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I am thinking that you may need to flash the unlocked firmware(G950U1) to your phone, which is XAA. Unlocked firmware includes many US CSC codes that should be compatible with most US carriers. Your Sprint phone may only have its own CSC which could be SPR, but Verizon's CSC is VZW.
Check out this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/snap-guide-flashing-standard-fw-carrier-t3625817 Ask your question on that thread as well.
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Based off reading that thread you mentioned that would make sense hypothetically. Would you or anyone be aware if I flash this and it still doesn't work, can I flash back to sprint and sell it as a standard sprint phone? Don't want it bricked or be out the $$ by my half ass attempt of acting like I know what I'm doing.
Holleman67 said:
Based off reading that thread you mentioned that would make sense hypothetically. Would you or anyone be aware if I flash this and it still doesn't work, can I flash back to sprint and sell it as a standard sprint phone? Don't want it bricked or be out the $$ by my half ass attempt of acting like I know what I'm doing.
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It is always a risk, but first I flashed my unlocked model to T-Mobile firmware(using regular Odin app), used it for 2 months and recently flashed back(using custom Odin app) to unlocked firmware before putting my phone for sale of eBay. I personally take the risk especially if it doesn't work for you with Verizon and don't see a reason why you wouldn't be able to flash back in case you need it. In other words if you phone enters download mode, then it should be able to flash.
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It is always a risk, but first I flashed my unlocked model to T-Mobile firmware(using regular Odin app), used it for 2 months and recently flashed back(using custom Odin app) to unlocked firmware before putting my phone for sale of eBay. I personally take the risk especially if it doesn't work for you with Verizon and don't see a reason why you wouldn't be able to flash back in case you need it. In other words if you phone enters download mode, then it should be able to flash.
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Tried to flash to g950u1 tonight and it didn't help the SIM issue. Going to try the Verizon version and also as the store to give me a new SIM card. Hoping this works out soon
Appreciate the advice!