Overall, my S5 is working pretty well, but it has started doing something strange. A few times each day, I get a "Unfortunately, _____ has stopped" message. A few times, I've noticed that "travel wallpaper" is the app that has stopped. I've never tried to use that (whatever it is). I'm pretty sure "Google news stand" or something like that was the app sometimes, as well as other apps.
For a couple months, I've been rooted and use Titanium Backup to freeze some of the bloatware that I felt pretty sure I don't want (all from a list of "safe to remove" apps). I use Greenify on a few apps, but not the ones that are showing up in the error messages.
A week or so before I noticed these errors, I had installed a bad .apk. It seemed sketchy, so I quickly uninstalled it. I ran Clean Master and it found nothing bad. But I'm still thinking I might want to wipe my device. I'd kind of like to go through the process just to do it. I've been doing regular backups with Titanium and I can't think of anything on the phone that I can't restore from scratch.
Is there a best method for wiping and using Titanium Backup to restore?
Edit: "Wi-Fi Direct share" is another app that gets the error message.
Edit: I used Safestrap to backup immediately after I rooted. The phone was stable at that point and for a month after.
ergalthema said:
Overall, my S5 is working pretty well, but it has started doing something strange. A few times each day, I get a "Unfortunately, _____ has stopped" message. A few times, I've noticed that "travel wallpaper" is the app that has stopped. I've never tried to use that (whatever it is). I'm pretty sure "Google news stand" or something like that was the app sometimes, as well as other apps.
For a couple months, I've been rooted and use Titanium Backup to freeze some of the bloatware that I felt pretty sure I don't want (all from a list of "safe to remove" apps). I use Greenify on a few apps, but not the ones that are showing up in the error messages.
A week or so before I noticed these errors, I had installed a bad .apk. It seemed sketchy, so I quickly uninstalled it. I ran Clean Master and it found nothing bad. But I'm still thinking I might want to wipe my device. I'd kind of like to go through the process just to do it. I've been doing regular backups with Titanium and I can't think of anything on the phone that I can't restore from scratch.
Is there a best method for wiping and using Titanium Backup to restore?
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Before you wipe your phone may I suggest that you unfreeze everything first, then see if you get the "Unfortunately...." message. If you stop getting that message then it is a pretty good chance that you have something frozen that an app or system needs to use. Wiping your phone and getting a fresh install of apps is always a good idea...if you have the time and inclination to do those type things. Installing apps from a backup is handy, but if you have a bad download/app install you will only be replicating the problem by installing from a back up. This is usually not a problem, but you never know. If you wipe, and have the time, try downloading the apps you want from Play Store to make sure you have the latest/fresh app. Yeah it is a PITA but you can be assured that the apps on your phone are the latest versions.
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Wiping your phone and getting a fresh install of apps is always a good idea
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I'll probably do that when I have a chance. Is there a particular method of wiping that is recommended?
I would like to restore my Nova Launcher home screen settings, Wanam settings, and any other customizations like that if possible.
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I'll probably do that when I have a chance. Is there a particular method of wiping that is recommended?
I would like to restore my Nova Launcher home screen settings, Wanam settings, and any other customizations like that if possible.
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Doing a Factory Reset is a good way to wipe your phone without touching your system apps. Or, if you have a custom recovery on your phone, you can do a full or partial wipe through recovery. I've used both methods and don't know if one way is any better than the other. You can save your current Nova setting to your SD card and restore after you have wiped. I don't use Wanam so I don't know about that app's settings and restore capability.
Immediately after I rooted, I made a backup with Safestrap. Titanium Backup has been backing up my apps and data.
Should I try to install the Safestrap recovery backup I made a couple months ago?
I did a lot of research before rooting, and so many people said how easy it was, etc. While using towelroot was super easy, learning how to correctly use Safestrap, etc. was not - especially since there were a couple error messages along the way and it didn't work quite how the info I gathered said it would (even the video from the Safestrap app page was not how most people set it up).
Regardless of what restore method you recommend, any info and helpful tips would be appreciated. I'm moving all my photos, videos, etc. to my computer, so there shouldn't be anything on the phone that I could not restore.
I saved my settings in Nova Launcher and Wanam. Hopefully, most of my customizations will restore from those settings - but I obviously all the icons won't return because some of the apps were not installed before the Safestrap backup.
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Immediately after I rooted, I made a backup with Safestrap. Titanium Backup has been backing up my apps and data.
Should I try to install the Safestrap recovery backup I made a couple months ago?
I did a lot of research before rooting, and so many people said how easy it was, etc. While using towelroot was super easy, learning how to correctly use Safestrap, etc. was not - especially since there were a couple error messages along the way and it didn't work quite how the info I gathered said it would (even the video from the Safestrap app page was not how most people set it up).
Regardless of what restore method you recommend, any info and helpful tips would be appreciated. I'm moving all my photos, videos, etc. to my computer, so there shouldn't be anything on the phone that I could not restore.
I saved my settings in Nova Launcher and Wanam. Hopefully, most of my customizations will restore from those settings - but I obviously all the icons won't return because some of the apps were not installed before the Safestrap backup.
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SafeStrap is the only recovery available for a retail S5. You have essentially two options: Do a factory reset which will not remove your firmware or ROM, it will only remove apps and associated cache and data. Many times that is all one needs to "clean-up their phone" and getting back to operating like new. Or, option 2, wipe data, cache, delvek cache, factory reset and flash your backup, if you trust it. If you don't trust your current backup make another one and flash that backup then restore your apps. I personally would do option 2. Make a new backup in Safestrap, then do a factory reset and flash the backup. That will accomplish what you want. You can always replace apps. The most important thing is to make sure you have a backup of your current ROM before you do anything.
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The most important thing is to make sure you have a backup of your current ROM before you do anything.
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Hmm, why is the ROM backup important? Because it's more difficult to get root back otherwise? I was more concerned about restoring my customizations for launcher, etc.
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Hmm, why is the ROM backup important? Because it's more difficult to get root back otherwise? I was more concerned about restoring my customizations for launcher, etc.
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Maybe I misunderstand what it is you're trying to accomplish. Just a reminder-- RULE #1: if you're going to hack a phone (and you already have done that by rooting and installing SafeStrap) always, always have a backup.
Refresh for me what it is you're trying to accomplish. I haven't used SafeStrap in a couple of years, I have a Developer Edition. However, I'll try to help you accomplish what you want without bricking your phone, that is priority one. Even if you loose root, you can always use towelroot again to re-root. If you brick your phone, well, that is another story.
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If you brick your phone, well, that is another story.
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That's the kind of reason I posted this.
I made a Safestrap backup immediately after rooting. Everything was stable then (and for a month or so after).
Basically, I've tried a lot of apps, and one that seemed sketchy recently. My phone started throwing up the "___ has stopped" errors regularly, so something seems wrong. I want to go back to a stable state. I might even not freeze any apps with Titanium Backup for a while to see how it run. There are some apps that are currently on my phone that I won't bother reinstalling. Otherwise, I don't really want to change anything.
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That's the kind of reason I posted this.
I made a Safestrap backup immediately after rooting. Everything was stable then (and for a month or so after).
Basically, I've tried a lot of apps, and one that seemed sketchy recently. My phone started throwing up the "___ has stopped" errors regularly, so something seems wrong. I want to go back to a stable state. I might even not freeze any apps with Titanium Backup for a while to see how it run. There are some apps that are currently on my phone that I won't bother reinstalling. Otherwise, I don't really want to change anything.
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Ok, I understand...again, LOL. Yes, first unfreeze anything you have frozen and see if the error message goes away. If it does then you had something frozen that an app or system needed. The trick is going to be discovering what you had frozen that was causing the error. Uninstall (using the stock apps manager) any apps that you no longer use or want.
If the error has not returned, then freeze a few apps at a time and see if the error returns. If it does then you have narrowed the problem down to a few apps. Sorry, there is no better way to go through the "freezing" process. Sometimes it is just trial and error. By the way, what error(app) was stopping. That might help identify what you Don't want to freeze.
To avoid a Factory Reset, you can go into recovery and wipe cache and delvek cache. Do not select/wipe data, system or anything else. Then select reboot phone from within SafeStrap. When your phone re-boots Android will build (optimizing apps) delvek cache. This will not brick your phone, but it will clean it up and get rid of potential problems left over from uninstalled apps. And, you will not loose root.
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By the way, what error(app) was stopping.
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There are a variety of apps that get the stop error - a lot of different apps. It's not consistent and seems to happen randomly (often apps I've never used). Because of that, I'm tempted to try to go back to a previous state. If you think it's sufficient to clear those caches and uninstall any apps I'm unsure of, then I might try it. However, I'd probably still worry that something bad was still installed somewhere. Maybe the only way to remove all doubt would be to factory reset. Or would my Safestrap backup be a certain way to put my phone back to its state before the sketchy app was installed?
I might try your method first to see how it goes.
If I wanted to use the Safestrap backup, I'm not sure exactly how. Do I open Safestrap and "install recovery"?
I really appreciate all the info. I'm learning a lot here.
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There are a variety of apps that get the stop error - a lot of different apps. It's not consistent and seems to happen randomly (often apps I've never used). Because of that, I'm tempted to try to go back to a previous state. If you think it's sufficient to clear those caches and uninstall any apps I'm unsure of, then I might try it. However, I'd probably still worry that something bad was still installed somewhere. Maybe the only way to remove all doubt would be to factory reset. Or would my Safestrap backup be a certain way to put my phone back to its state before the sketchy app was installed?
I might try your method first to see how it goes.
If I wanted to use the Safestrap backup, I'm not sure exactly how. Do I open Safestrap and "install recovery"?
I really appreciate all the info. I'm learning a lot here.
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No problem, glad to help.
Ok, lets try the safest process first and progress from there.
1. Remove all unwanted and/or not used apps
2. Unfreeze everything and see if any errors occur
3. If no error then you have something frozen causing the problem. If the error still occurs then go to 4.
4. Enter recovery and clean cache and delvek...reboot phone and see what happens
5. If errors continue to occur then do a factory reset
6. If errors continue to occur after Factory Reset then wipe phone and flash your backup
How to flash backup: Go into recovery (SafeStrap), select Wipe and wipe (cache, delvek, data), and do a factory reset. Then, while still in recovery, go to Restore and select your backup and swipe to install the backup. After the install, select reboot.
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2. Unfreeze everything and see if any errors occur
3. If no error then you have something frozen causing the problem. If the error still occurs then go to 4.
4. Enter recovery and clean cache and delvek...reboot phone and see what happens
5. If errors continue to occur then do a factory reset
6. If errors continue to occur after Factory Reset then wipe phone and flash your backup
How to flash backup: Go into recovery (SafeStrap), select Wipe and wipe (cache, delvek, data), and do a factory reset. Then, while still in recovery, go to Restore and select your backup and swipe to install the backup. After the install, select reboot.
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I defrosted everything and still got errors.
I entered recovery, selected Wipe, then Advanced Wipe. That gives me options for "Dalvik Cache", "Cache", and a few others.
You said "delvek" where Safestrap Advanced Wipe says "Dalvik". I don't want to risk anything. Can you confirm that I should wipe Dalvik Cache and Cache?
Yes, wipe cache and dalvek cache
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I have been having this issue ever since my phone booted up and all my apps sequentally had force close dialogs happen. I am running my apps from the SD and figured something went wrong with the boot up sequence. I tried doing a nandroid backup, reinstall fresh 1.1, but no luck.
I then used my backups to reinstall over all my apps, then went into Market to install them via that. Everything seemed to be just fine, but the phone app would still not dial anything and when I recieved a call, it gives the error "The process com.android.phone has stopped unexpectedly" and then proceeds to try to reset the phone connection. Most times I lose all data connection and need to reboot.
Recently, I tried installing the latest Modoco CDMA rom. No luck. I then did a Titanium backup and force reinstalled everything again. Still no luck.
Anyone have this issue and get it resolved? My Hero can do everything but make and accept calls. I really don't want to do a wipe as this problem can just happen again, so I would rather understand the process.
Thanks in advance.
Ceger
Simplest way to fix this should be clearing the dalvik/boot cache from fresh's kitchen. I really should write up a guide on how to do these simple tasks manually.
obelisk79 said:
Simplest way to fix this should be clearing the dalvik/boot cache from fresh's kitchen. I really should write up a guide on how to do these simple tasks manually.
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Will that work on MCR 2.2 as well? I'll look into that. Is it something I can do from recovery?
Ceger
yes should work on mcr 2.2 and can be done manually from recovery, I know recovery does dalvik cache, not sure if it also kils the boot cache as well though. The older version only did dalvik.
obelisk79 said:
yes should work on mcr 2.2 and can be done manually from recovery, I know recovery does dalvik cache, not sure if it also kils the boot cache as well though. The older version only did dalvik.
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Do you need to do both? Wiping the dalvik cache created lots of app fc issues, which would be fine if the phone actually worked. Still won't make or receieve calls.
And thank you for the assistance.
Ceger
Edit. Clearing the boot cashe got rid of the FC issues. However, still have same issue with the phone app. This is so annoying.
honestly the best bet to clear up the issues would be to do a full wipe from recovery. Wipe the phone clean then run the stock RUU and re-root and install your custom rom. Do a nandroid backup first just to prevent losing any of your info.
Unfortunately despite the many well written guides here on XDA there are always a few issues most likely a result of slight hardware quirks or unfortunate circumstances at the time of flashing.
Just for '****s and giggles' have you tried pulling your battery for 30 seconds, reinstalling it and booting the phone up?
Heck sometimes just a reflash of the rom right over top of itself. I've been tinkering with this phone since the day root came out and I still don't fully understand all of it's quirks.
Ceger said:
I have been having this issue ever since my phone booted up and all my apps sequentally had force close dialogs happen. I am running my apps from the SD and figured something went wrong with the boot up sequence. I tried doing a nandroid backup, reinstall fresh 1.1, but no luck.
I then used my backups to reinstall over all my apps, then went into Market to install them via that. Everything seemed to be just fine, but the phone app would still not dial anything and when I recieved a call, it gives the error "The process com.android.phone has stopped unexpectedly" and then proceeds to try to reset the phone connection. Most times I lose all data connection and need to reboot.
Recently, I tried installing the latest Modoco CDMA rom. No luck. I then did a Titanium backup and force reinstalled everything again. Still no luck.
Anyone have this issue and get it resolved? My Hero can do everything but make and accept calls. I really don't want to do a wipe as this problem can just happen again, so I would rather understand the process.
Thanks in advance.
Ceger
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use these commands to clear cache
rm -r /data/boot-cache/
rm /data/dalvik-cache/
once you finish then reboot.everything should go away...
he's done that already.
then i suggest to extract the rom zip file, and get into command on your device and go under the system/lib or app and see what is listed in the folders. and compare it to the rom folder.
That's how i was able to fix the voice search on my device, one of the lib file was missing and got it to work after that.
obelisk79 said:
honestly the best bet to clear up the issues would be to do a full wipe from recovery. Wipe the phone clean then run the stock RUU and re-root and install your custom rom. Do a nandroid backup first just to prevent losing any of your info.
Unfortunately despite the many well written guides here on XDA there are always a few issues most likely a result of slight hardware quirks or unfortunate circumstances at the time of flashing.
Just for '****s and giggles' have you tried pulling your battery for 30 seconds, reinstalling it and booting the phone up?
Heck sometimes just a reflash of the rom right over top of itself. I've been tinkering with this phone since the day root came out and I still don't fully understand all of it's quirks.
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Done and done and no difference.
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then i suggest to extract the rom zip file, and get into command on your device and go under the system/lib or app and see what is listed in the folders. and compare it to the rom folder.
That's how i was able to fix the voice search on my device, one of the lib file was missing and got it to work after that.
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Done, even manually moved some files in case they were corrupted at one point. Very bad move, nandroid backup was my friend there.
Guess a wipe will be the only option then. How annoying.
Thanks for all of your inputs.
Ceger
Another thought... would updating my phone with latest kernal compile possibly do the trick? Or how about a replacement process for google.com.phone?
Ceger
Interesting theory.... worth a try.
i had this issue once and it was because of somehow the uids for the apps got messed up. a wipe should fix this in most cases. but for me it went like ur issue. i almost event went back stock. then i looked into it and found that in my packages.xml file the the uids were all messed up. i had multiple uids and certs for the apps i was having issues with. so what i did was pulled the packages.xml from the device and erased the apps i was having issues with. then pushed it back and rebooted. that cleared the issue. so if i were u i would research that. do a google search on it. then if it doesnt work do the ruu and reroot. good luck man. i know how u must be feeling. i was there
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i had this issue once and it was because of somehow the uids for the apps got messed up. a wipe should fix this in most cases. but for me it went like ur issue. i almost event went back stock. then i looked into it and found that in my packages.xml file the the uids were all messed up. i had multiple uids and certs for the apps i was having issues with. so what i did was pulled the packages.xml from the device and erased the apps i was having issues with. then pushed it back and rebooted. that cleared the issue. so if i were u i would research that. do a google search on it. then if it doesnt work do the ruu and reroot. good luck man. i know how u must be feeling. i was there
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Actually, the fix was much simpler. I wiped the SD ext partition and just did a Recovery Wipe. It went back to stock modded rom that remained rooted. I then used Titanium to reinstall my apps with data and then MyBackup to get back some settings such as my scenes, etc. and all was good. Took all of 30 minutes to get my Hero back up and running in better condition than before.
Thanks all for the assists.
Ceger
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i am facing this prob on cyanogen mod10....when ever i reboot my optimus 2x....i face this damn problem
help plzzzzzzzzzz.....!!!!!
I apologize if this post isn't very clear, I'm tired and English is not my native language...
I upgraded to Cyanogen's 5.0.7 Test 5 ROM not too long ago from CM 4.2.14.1. Before doing that I backed up my app data wit Backup for root users. I haven't done that before, so I checked multiple boxes, not knowing which one was the correct one. The tutorial I followed then stated I should check the SD-card to make sure only app data was backed-up, and no system data.
So I checked and found only maps from my apps.
So far so good.
However, when I restored the app data, my home screen got messed up. It thinks the fourth screen is the center one (so it goes there when pressing the home button) and all widgets say "Problem loading this widget". Also I can't change anything. I Can't remove or rearrange widgets or shortcuts. If I try to do so, Android crashes (FC on android.process.acore).
I'm pretty sure it is completely my own fault, not a bug in the ROM. When I restored the data I must have corrupted the file in which the home screen data is stored.
So, finally my questions: Is there a way to restore this without doing a wipe (I'm guessing re-flashing without a wipe will still keep the corrupted settings)?
If anyone can tell me which file is responsible for the home screen settings, can I delete it so Android will restore it with a new (empty) one?
Can I replace it with someone else's? Or extract it from a ROM-file?
That are the solutions I came up with. If its easier to just wipe and re-flash, tell me and I will do so. I just hoped there was a way I can prevent having to set up the phone all over again...
Thanks in advance!
Did you nandroid backup? If you did, restore it and backup all your apps using Titanium Backup. Backup for root users has always gave me problems as well. Titanium Backup allows all the same options that you need, but just works better imho.
If you didn't nandroid and can't do that - I'm pretty sure a wipe is your only option. You can try fix_permissions from the terminal, but I don't think it's going to fix your problems.
I did do a nandroid backup, but that was just before I flashed CM 5... I guess restoring a nandroid backup from my CM 4.2.14.1 setup is not a good idea?
Hmm, guess I will be re-flashing this evening Thanks anyway!
EDIT: I will use Titanium from now on... I had heard of it, but the tutorial I followed used Backup for root users...
Restoring a nandroid backup is NOT bad at all. That's what its there for. It doesn't matter if you nandroided a completely different ROM then flashed CM5. Flashing a new ROM doesn't affect the nandroid backup EVER.
You flash a nasty, nasty ROM and are like, "Oh ****!" Just go nandroid.
I usually wipe all data/cache before restoring, but some people don't. Either way, it completely restores your phone to the state it was at before backing up. This includes applications and everything. (App data, system settings, app settings, etc.)
I thought nandroid just restored system files and settings... But if it completely restores my phone, a might just as well wipe and re-flash since it will restore it to the previous ROM.
Thanks for the info, I have learned some more about my phone
Quick and to the point:
1. Is a clockwork backup a full image of the system, such that if I restore from it no matter what kernel, rom, mod, etc. I've installed, I get exactly the completely system and state that I had when I made the backup? I.e., it is a true failsafe against messing up the phone, so long as CWR will boot and the SD card is intact?
2. A complete backup with Titanium, backing up all apps and system data, is a migration path for trying a new ROM? IOW, I can simply do a complete backup with Titanium, wipe wipe wipe, install the target ROM, then restore "missing apps and data" from Titanium and -- voila! I'm on the new ROM, but with all my apps, configuration, etc. I had before?
I'm getting ready to try out the Syndicate ROM...
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Quick and to the point:
1. Is a clockwork backup a full image of the system, such that if I restore from it no matter what kernel, rom, mod, etc. I've installed, I get exactly the completely system and state that I had when I made the backup? I.e., it is a true failsafe against messing up the phone, so long as CWR will boot and the SD card is intact?
2. A complete backup with Titanium, backing up all apps and system data, is a migration path for trying a new ROM? IOW, I can simply do a complete backup with Titanium, wipe wipe wipe, install the target ROM, then restore "missing apps and data" from Titanium and -- voila! I'm on the new ROM, but with all my apps, configuration, etc. I had before?
I'm getting ready to try out the Syndicate ROM...
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Ha! I am searching now for the exact same question! I am looking to try the Epic Experience. I will follow this thread to see what the answer is.
Thanks.
First off might I comment that Syndicate Rom is a great choice. Not just saying that cause any of them are my buddies either, cause IDK Any of them... so far though Running Syndicate Rom/Kernel with SetCPU at 200-1200 has been the smoothest Rom experience I have had up to date.
1. Is a clockwork backup a full image of the system, such that if I restore from it no matter what kernel, rom, mod, etc. I've installed, I get exactly the completely system and state that I had when I made the backup? I.e., it is a true failsafe against messing up the phone, so long as CWR will boot and the SD card is intact?
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Yes in theory it is a backup of everything, data, apps installed, boot, system, literally the entire phone is backed up. Is it a failsafe though? I would rather say not. On some phones we can restore a clockwork recovery and have no issues, but since I've had my epic and switched around with different Roms, I've noticed that restore dosen't work quite as it should, probably because Roms are so much different, and you run into FC's, boot loops, and other issues... Restoring peices in advanced restore works well but a complete restore almost always has bugs.
True statement though that even if you screw up and get a boot loop, or constant force closes/phone restarts, as long as you can get back into clockwork your phone is not screwed. You were right on that one. So no worries if you wanna test and play.
2. A complete backup with Titanium, backing up all apps and system data, is a migration path for trying a new ROM? IOW, I can simply do a complete backup with Titanium, wipe wipe wipe, install the target ROM, then restore "missing apps and data" from Titanium and -- voila! I'm on the new ROM, but with all my apps, configuration, etc. I had before?
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You have the idea right. You really don't even need to back all your apps up with titanium anymore these days, though, it too is plagued with FC's and problems. If you are using clockwork recovery, and you have made a backup already... all you have to do when installing a NEW rom is first wipe-fest, then let it boot once, then restart, go to clockwork, go to Advanced Restore, and ONLY restore the DATA part. (Reason for this is if you restore Boot, System, etc it will try to restore the Rom you just installed... Data is where all your apps/settings are at) This will do exactly the same thing as titanium backup will do, only with less bugs and alot easier.
Cool... thanks for the great response.
It's too bad there isn't an iron-clad, 100% reliable means to take a snapshot of the phone that can be restored reliably.
On WM it was simply a matter of using one of the various backup utilities (I used SPB Backup 2) to make an image of the system. No matter what I did to the phone, I could always wipe it back to factory clean, then restore from backup and have my phone back exactly as it was, with no issues.
I'm trying a CW backup, factory reset, restore cycle right now to see what happens. I'll report back on my experience.
EDIT: Okay, one deviation from the WM experience: The factory reset did NOT reset the kernel -- MixUp is still showing as the running kernel. Is Odin the only way to get the factory kernel back?No matter what, I'm on my way after that to the Syndicate ROM!
EDIT: Okay, the CW restore seems to have restored everything back to the way it was, without problems after some brief playing around. No FCs (so far). On to wiping again, installing Syndicate Standard, then restoring data from CW as recommended here.
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You have the idea right. You really don't even need to back all your apps up with titanium anymore these days, though, it too is plagued with FC's and problems. If you are using clockwork recovery, and you have made a backup already... all you have to do when installing a NEW rom is first wipe-fest, then let it boot once, then restart, go to clockwork, go to Advanced Restore, and ONLY restore the DATA part. (Reason for this is if you restore Boot, System, etc it will try to restore the Rom you just installed... Data is where all your apps/settings are at) This will do exactly the same thing as titanium backup will do, only with less bugs and alot easier.
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Alright I took the plunge and it seemed to work well. Some things that I noticed was that on first boot (before I did the restore), all of the preinstalled apps showed up (for instance, wireless tether, wired tether, launcher pro, etc...). Since I did a restore of the data, all of MY apps are there, but some of the apps that were preinstalled disappeared. Not all of them, though. For example, Launcher Pro and Wired and wireless tether disappeared, but Car Home is still there.
Another thing to note is that my widgets on the home screen don't seem to function correctly at first. I had to remove them and readd them to the home screen for them to work.
Other than that, everything is as it should be.
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Alright I took the plunge and it seemed to work well. Some things that I noticed was that on first boot (before I did the restore), all of the preinstalled apps showed up (for instance, wireless tether, wired tether, launcher pro, etc...). Since I did a restore of the data, all of MY apps are there, but some of the apps that were preinstalled disappeared. Not all of them, though. For example, Launcher Pro and Wired and wireless tether disappeared, but Car Home is still there.
Another thing to note is that my widgets on the home screen don't seem to function correctly at first. I had to remove them and readd them to the home screen for them to work.
Other than that, everything is as it should be.
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Hmmm... okay. So just to provide a different datapoint, I'll go the Titanium route to get my own apps and settings back, and report. I'm guessing CW wiped the DATA partition before the restore, wiping out the pre-installed stuff from the ROM.
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Hmmm... okay. So just to provide a different datapoint, I'll go the Titanium route to get my own apps and settings back, and report. I'm guessing CW wiped the DATA partition before the restore, wiping out the pre-installed stuff from the ROM.
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Ok, since yesterday, I tried both ways. I did a wipe back to the default Syndicate Rom and installed Titanium Backup. While restoring, I noticed that not all apps would restore (seemed to be ones that were in the stock ROM so it's understandable). I did a restore of apps + data. Now, I had most of my apps back, however, I noticed that some of the data was missing. For me, most importantly was the SMS Messages. I also wanted to note that doing an application by application restore of the backup was very time consuming! I had to basically reinstall every app (and then Titanium restored the data)
Nandroid doesnt seem to touch the kernel on our phones ether I noticed. I had a problem yesterday after I flashed a new rom and when I went to do a restore through nandroid I got a bootloop. Once I reflashed the kernel it fixed the bootlooping problem. I have noticed this in other instances to with kernels not being backed up since I did one after I rooted my phone so I would have a stock image.
Thanks guys on your experience and feedback on the backup thing that I'm wondering what to do after stock root.
dito33
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Nandroid doesnt seem to touch the kernel on our phones ether I noticed. I had a problem yesterday after I flashed a new rom and when I went to do a restore through nandroid I got a bootloop. Once I reflashed the kernel it fixed the bootlooping problem. I have noticed this in other instances to with kernels not being backed up since I did one after I rooted my phone so I would have a stock image.
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This is what I have been told in the past- a nandroid restore does not replace the kernel
Nookcolor with MN 4.5.25, 1.1 overclocked kernel. I had the market problem, but 4.5.25 cleared it up. It worked fine for a week or so. Then yesterday all of "My apps" disappeared from market except the several I paid for. I did the 4.5.25 market fix several times and the rename Vending.apk fix a couple of times, no cigar (I'm aware of the risk of appearing insane, so I won't keep doing the same thing over and over, at least not too many times). On the desktop Android Market, my account, "My Orders" shows only these same paid apps and two free apps (with no rhyme or reason as to which two, except both have been uninstalled by me). If this isn't clear to you, I am talking about the list of the apps I have downloaded on market. All of my apps are working fine on the NC.
If I find the rest of my apps on Android Market on the desktop, all are marked "installed". But they simply will not appear, no matter what I do, on the NC or on the "My Orders" screen on the desktop.
Short of downloading each again (my time, ambition, patience, and data allowance are limited) how can I restore the apps to list on "My apps" on the NC and "My Orders" on the desktop?
I have a Titanium backup taken a few days before the failure. Is this information kept in some data area in the NC and sync'ed to market? Could I restore an app or that app's data and get my apps back in sync? I hesitate to restore everything, as I am beginning to believe that I am digging a hole.
Waiting patiently for some informative responses, DaveD
I haven't resolved this problem, and am still waiting for suggestions. In the meantime, an additional problem. Whenever I install a new app, downloaded in the standard manner from market, market will then appear briefly when I try to load it again, then disappear. I then have to restore the market.apk with Titanium, after which i will work again until the next time I install an app. I will now see in the my apps section the same several paid for apps plus any additional that I have installed since the problem first occurred.
Please help if you can. I would like to fix this. DaveD
I am trying to figure out the best way to backup my data and apps.
I am between using Titannium Backup or Backup Pro.
Any suggestions....?
Also,
Do you know what's the easiest way to reboot into recovery mode?
I'm running CM7 off SD card. Tried the Power and N button combination, with no luck also tried selecting reboot into recovery mode from CM7 desktop.
Which backup?
Since no one else is responding, I'll give you my recommendation based on limited experience. I like Titanium, and after installing it quickly paid for the Pro version, for the simple reason that it allows multiple backups, which I consider necessary in any backup program. I don't know about backup pro. But overall, among the two dozen or so apps I run, both free and paid, Titanium Pro appears to be the highest quality of them all.
Regarding rebooting into recovery mode, I don't know how else to reboot . See the next item in this thread for additional info on that.
Well, since no one is either interested enough or can help, I took the plunge and fixed it myself. If there is any interest, here is the only answer I could come up with.
First, I tried selectively restoring system apps with Titanium. I ended up restoring 20 or so. All that did was got me deeper into it. At the end I could no longer download apps--it would come up with the infamous "starting download" and that was the end of it.
So I decided to start from scratch, attempting to revert the Nook to it's original 1.1 out-of-the-box unregistered version. I followed the directions in the Nook Wiki (don't remember the two items and don't have time to go looking, as will be the case with a lot of the explanation below). I started with the ADB interface and entered the reboot failure 8 count from the desktop, upon which it rebooted, but did so into ClockWorkMod recovery, and recovered to the MN 4.5.25 system I was trying to get rid of. So, ignorant as I am about how all this works, I did the eight reboot failures manually, same thing, same thing. Now, I guess I could have gone in and uninstalled ClockWorkMod, but didn't think of that. So next time I tried it (third), I had recovery reset all data and cache. Then when I rebooted I was in NookColor stock 1.2, without rooting. But every time I tried to get back to out-of-the-box 1.1, I entered recovery again.
Now, withe the expectation that I could reinstall MN for the express purpose of killing ClockWorkMod recovery, then go about following the directions in Wiki which should work, I MN'ed it. Upon reemerging into MN, market worked! So I installed the 1.1Ghz kernel, and started reinstalling the apps, which I am still doing. No need to go back to the 1.1 clean level, as far as I have seen. Some of the old apps are still there, but most are gone. Again, no rhyme or reason as to which apps. But it works.
I could reinstall the old apps from Titanium, which I did for Dolphin merely to get the latest Beta 5.0.6 back and for the bookmarks, but for the most part am reinstalling from market, as I need for market to be aware of the apps I have.
Bottom line, it is much easier to wipe the Nook (provided you get ClockWorkMod out of the way first) and reinstall apps then to spend hours upon hours trying to figure out how to fix a market problem. Market is nice and solid with 4.5.25; I hope it stays that way this time (I don't know what caused the original failure, but I am highly suspicious that it was operator error)! I guess a clean wipe and reinstall to 4.5.25, including an overclocking kernel and apps, will take an hour or so, less if you reinstall apps from backups.
DaveD
titanium pro is the only way to go. buy it!. I had back up pro before and had to uninstall it because it would not reinstall from time to time. titanium pro always works and with the pay version you can batch activities not like the free version where you'll have to do it one by one. anyway, if you restoring with titanium pro remember to restore apps only and not the data. you don't want to pass on bad data to your fresh flash.
with the market did you try to clear cache in application manager? sometime this will help. go to settings / application / manage application / view all and scroll down to market and clear cache and data. I also think you'll need to clear cache and data with google services framework, but I forget, not sure.
for flashing nighties (only if you're going from cm to cm) all you have to do is wipe partition cache, not data and wipe dalvik cache and flash your new nightie. all of your app will be there. I hope this helped a little. good luck.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Barnes_&_Noble_Nook_Color:_Full_Update_Guide
I've noticed two problems that crop up when I use Titanium Backup to restore my apps/data
1) If I try to restore the missing apps + data, sometimes everything gets restored, and sometimes it gives me "X elements failed", where some apps will not be installed. This happens whether I restore on the same ROM that I backed up on (backup on Cloudy G2, restore on Cloudy G2) , or if I use a different ROM (backup on NDM 5.5, restore on Cloudy G2). I thought I found a work around, where I just install the app from the Play Store first, and THEN I would restore the app data. That worked a few times until....
2) When I tried restoring my app data last night after a fresh KDZ wipe, the apps that I restored data on all couldn't start (Snapchat, Amazon, Wechat, SwiftKey). I would tap them, they would try to open for half a second, then they would close. I tried restarting my phone, but with that, I got "UIDs on your system are inconsistent, you need to wipe your data partition or your device will be unstable". I was stupid, and decided to wipe my data partition so I had to restore all my apps from scratch, but that at least hasn't lead to any problems yet.
Does anyone know what I did wrong, or what I can do to fix this? I know for number 1, some threads mentioned that your Android I.D. changes when you flash a new ROM (that MIGHT explain number 2?), but not a lot of people mention this, and it seems like the majority of people don't have this problem. For number 2, I found this thread, but it was too late already.
If possible, I'd like to find a backup app that avoids ALL of these and just lets me back things up and restore easily. Is there one out there?
tdk0117 said:
I've noticed two problems that crop up when I use Titanium Backup to restore my apps/data
1) If I try to restore the missing apps + data, sometimes everything gets restored, and sometimes it gives me "X elements failed", where some apps will not be installed. This happens whether I restore on the same ROM that I backed up on (backup on Cloudy G2, restore on Cloudy G2) , or if I use a different ROM (backup on NDM 5.5, restore on Cloudy G2). I thought I found a work around, where I just install the app from the Play Store first, and THEN I would restore the app data. That worked a few times until....
2) When I tried restoring my app data last night after a fresh KDZ wipe, the apps that I restored data on all couldn't start (Snapchat, Amazon, Wechat, SwiftKey). I would tap them, they would try to open for half a second, then they would close. I tried restarting my phone, but with that, I got "UIDs on your system are inconsistent, you need to wipe your data partition or your device will be unstable". I was stupid, and decided to wipe my data partition so I had to restore all my apps from scratch, but that at least hasn't lead to any problems yet.
Does anyone know what I did wrong, or what I can do to fix this? I know for number 1, some threads mentioned that your Android I.D. changes when you flash a new ROM (that MIGHT explain number 2?), but not a lot of people mention this, and it seems like the majority of people don't have this problem. For number 2, I found this thread, but it was too late already.
If possible, I'd like to find a backup app that avoids ALL of these and just lets me back things up and restore easily. Is there one out there?
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is a supersu issue, open supersu than go to is setting and not select "name space mount separation" that is selected by default.
Now titanium can work as intended
Romagnolo1973 said:
is a supersu issue, open supersu than go to is setting and not select "name space mount separation" that is selected by default.
Now titanium can work as intended
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That will fix both problems that I have?
Try, I was unable to use it untill I change the SuperSu setting and now Titanium is working perfectly, so probably your problem is the same.
Oh I mean, I can use it just fine. It can perform backups. But restoring is a when I get those errors. I'll keep this in mind in case I need to restore to a new ROM, thanks!