OK guys so i have done some extensive testing and i have come to the conclusion that the I/0 read and write are causing intermediate lag and stutter in all applications and games on my nexus 7, It greatly affects the smoothness of intense 3d games that otherwise should run smooth as butter on this device. So whats the deal? im on stock everything with the latest kitkat 4.4.4 and ive turned off google currents and trimmed and everything that i can think of, so do i just take my nexus 7 back to staples? is there no way to solve the loading lag? let me further explain my testing on this issue, OK so take for example the game "sonic dash" the game starts out smooth but when something like an enemy or tree "pops" on the screen the entire game lags and stutters until that texture is loaded, it also happens on dead trigger when moving from room to room thus further proving it is an I/0 read issue from the nexus 7's internal SSD. So can any of you shed some light on this and post some solutions?
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I know that the Nexus 7 used to lag when the memory dropped below 3Gb when on 4.1.1, but I thought the issue was fixed for 4.1.2
Lately however, my memory has dropped to around 1.5Gb and now I'm starting to get lag. I was playing Shadowgun: DeadZone and it was lagging terribly, even crashing my N7. I just thought the lag was terrible net connection though and thought nothing else of it. So, started playing the normal Shadowgun but even that lagged. Played a few other games to see how they played and the majority of them lagged.
I'm just wondering, is this lag caused by the low memory, or something else? I've had no problems before, its just started happening. I'm on PA2.50 w/ franco kernel, 16Gb N7.
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I want to hear from those who got their hands on the phone as soon as it came out. Have you guys noticed any degrading performance over the updates Google has pushed out? Before I updated, my phone ran games like Vice City like a charm. Now, on 4.2.2, it seems like some performance has been lost. It may not matter to some, but the gaming performance means a lot to me. The random frame dips on games just kills the experience. Have any of you noticed a performance hit? Also, has anyone found a way to make games run smoother? I've tried Cyanognemod 10.1 Nightly and AOKP V3, but neither seemed to push out the performance standard Jelly Bean does. Faux123's kernel, after overclocking, didn't seem to help either.
I haven't noticed any difference i still run GTA 3 and vice city on maximum setting smoothly and i havent noticed any drop in frame rates
I have never played GTA on Nexus 4. But I did play Asphalt 7, NFS MW on both 4.2.1 and 4.2.2 Franco Kernel. Feel no difference.
hence, give FrancoKernel a try?
It's all in the governor.
Alright. What governor are you guys using? I'll give Franco's kernel a shot, but I would rather stick with Faux's after paying for his app and learning how to use it. I have it set up for maximum performance, but it just seems the games aren't running the way they should. For example, I notice that Need for Speed Most Wanted tends to have a large frame dip when nearing other vehicles. It's not something immediately noticeable, but I can see that it almost does a slow motion sort of thing at moments. Also, with Vice City; With everything maxed out, it'll run fine with the camera directly behind the car, or when Vince is running. But should I need to maybe make a slight turn or a large one, the frames drop unbearably.
Use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aatt.fpsm app to check the ingame fps.And btw with gta vc on stock 4.2.2 with franko kernel,i get 25-30 fps.
So I picked one of these up. I run the stock ROM and am using Nova Launcher. Phone is not even rooted, it's just out of the box but with nova launcher.
During GTA Vice City and Amazing Spiderman the lag is just unbelievable. I thought a phone like this could run GTA Vice City maxed out, but if I set the resolution to above 70% and visual effects to anything but low, the lag is UNBEARABLE.
I saw people running games just fine, but I just can't figure out. Help me out here?
The firmware is the XXUBMEA, it updated to that when I first started it.
You may need to look into rooting and then removing or freezing a lot of the samsung and google bloatware if you don't use it. A lot of these run in the background regardless and take up ram, reducing the available amount, which in turn will hamper the phones performance as the ram available gets low.
Standard my phone was using around 1.2-1.4gb, now that I've rooted, frozen a lot of crap, and even used greenify to stop some apps running in the background (candy crush as an example hogs 200Mb in the background), I'm now seeing around 700-800Mb ram usage and the phone runs quite well. Haven't played any games like GTA to really push it, but I'm not seeing any more lag.
Yeah GTA lag can't really be resolved
I'm on a 4.3 AOSP rom with Ktoonz kernel that has CPU + GPU overclock and I still couldn't get it smooth even when lowered to high effects and about 75% resolution.
For some reason, practically every high end game I've played lags on the i9505
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I was shocked at the stuttering when playing Robot Unicorn attack (Excellent game https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pikpok.rua2).
Every 3-5 seconds the phone would stutter for 0.1-0.3 seconds (subjective). This did NOT happen with my i9500 Exynos.
I don't understand whats wrong. If it's a driver issue, it should be resolved by now 5 months after launch.
Can a game developer or kernel master enlighten us?
DragosPaul said:
So I picked one of these up. I run the stock ROM and am using Nova Launcher. Phone is not even rooted, it's just out of the box but with nova launcher.
During GTA Vice City and Amazing Spiderman the lag is just unbelievable. I thought a phone like this could run GTA Vice City maxed out, but if I set the resolution to above 70% and visual effects to anything but low, the lag is UNBEARABLE.
I saw people running games just fine, but I just can't figure out. Help me out here?
The firmware is the XXUBMEA, it updated to that when I first started it.
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Just bought Asphalt 8, honestly expected it to run flawlessly on my Black GS4-i9500 but that was not the case. Installation was fine, but game is really laggy and the graphic is kind of messed up and unstable. It's like the graphic card is not powerful enough to run it at full speed. I'm playing on default settings and I made sure there is no other application running besides Airborne. My phone is a genuine one and have not rooted it. It's the same for Minion Rush and Asphalt 7.
What might be causing this problem according to you guys and is there any way to fix this?
Many thanks.
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Just bought Asphalt 8, honestly expected it to run flawlessly on my Black GS4-i9500 but that was not the case. Installation was fine, but game is really laggy and the graphic is kind of messed up and unstable. It's like the graphic card is not powerful enough to run it at full speed. I'm playing on default settings and I made sure there is no other application running besides Airborne. My phone is a genuine one and have not rooted it. It's the same for Minion Rush and Asphalt 7.
What might be causing this problem according to you guys and is there any way to fix this?
Many thanks.
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Had no lags like this on stock. Everything ran flawlessly.
but smearing issue bothered me so I rooted it and installed perseus kernel. Everything is fast as hell. And using wanam rom.
try a factory reset. Then update to latest ota. And test again.
There is no such thing called "lag" on my I9500, on GE Port or stock Touchwiz.
But yes, my phone is rooted and got swapped external to internal.
Probably there's something wrong in your beloved storage.
blowmrsky said:
Just bought Asphalt 8, honestly expected it to run flawlessly on my Black GS4-i9500 but that was not the case. Installation was fine, but game is really laggy and the graphic is kind of messed up and unstable. It's like the graphic card is not powerful enough to run it at full speed. I'm playing on default settings and I made sure there is no other application running besides Airborne. My phone is a genuine one and have not rooted it. It's the same for Minion Rush and Asphalt 7.
What might be causing this problem according to you guys and is there any way to fix this?
Many thanks.
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It is the way it is.
Forget these guys who says Asphalt 8 run flawlessly on I9500/I9505, it doesn't. Flawlessly is 60fps all the time. S4 can't deliver that.
It doesn't matter which ROM you are using, they do little to no help on GPU performance, unless when you are OCing the GPU.
Just make sure you don't have background apps running.
For Asphalt 8 on I9500 expect a frame rate on High Quality averaging on 30fps, with peaks on 40fps and dips on 15fps.
I9505 is a few frames worse.
If you really want have a gain on FPS, you should have root, be on Android 4.2 and change the resolution to let's say 720x1280.
got ard 30fps, can't say perfect but good enough to play. Anyway racing game don't require very high fps.
If you experience HEAVY LAG then something must be wrong.
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I am playing real racing on i9500 from past few days. and IT SUCKS. fone get stuck time to time while loading game. I have to reboot it again and again
Sorry I'm a little bit out of the main subject.
Is there any way to show FPS when gaming on android devices ? I looked in playstore and there's none.
To get back to the subject, you should see what's wrong with your phone .. Asphalt runs well on S4 as it's running on IPAD 4 (but the bigger screen makes it better experience really) .. S2 also runs it well with medium graphics.
I thought the 3d titles were a bit laggy or jerky but played on iPhone 5 and we're the same smaller screen was rubbish.
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3ayachi said:
Sorry I'm a little bit out of the main subject.
Is there any way to show FPS when gaming on android devices ? I looked in playstore and there's none.
To get back to the subject, you should see what's wrong with your phone .. Asphalt runs well on S4 as it's running on IPAD 4 (but the bigger screen makes it better experience really) .. S2 also runs it well with medium graphics.
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FPS Meter (root required)
It is paid though... It used to be cheaper, I paid U$ 1.00 (maybe I bought it on specials days, don't know...) but now it is around U$ 4.00.
It shows fps on screen. It affects the performance a little bit when active, something around 5%-10%.
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FPS Meter (root required)
It is paid though... It used to be cheaper, I paid U$ 1.00 (maybe I bought it on specials days, don't know...) but now it is around U$ 4.00.
It shows fps on screen. It affects the performance a little bit when active, something around 5%-10%.
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It effects much more than 5%-10%. It is taking down the FPS by about 10-15FPS!
I found no Lag yet on my phone. I've played and still playing Asphalt 8, Modern Combat 4, shadowgun:deadzone etc. and all run smooth.
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If you really want have a gain on FPS, you should have root, be on Android 4.2 and change the resolution to let's say 720x1280.
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Asphalt 8 is already runing at 720p.
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tollboy said:
I am playing real racing on i9500 from past few days. and IT SUCKS. fone get stuck time to time while loading game. I have to reboot it again and again
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I had the same problem with my S4, I noticed that it only happened when playing using the Bumper Cam view.
Since switching to the hood view its never frozen or stopped once.
been playing asphalt 8 for 2 weeks now, never had a problem.
I9500 - wanamlite 1.8 + adam kernel 2.2
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Asphalt 8 is already runing at 720p.
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Wow. All this time, I've been thinking that it is running at 1080. Are you sure its at 720? I mean have you tried to run the game at 720p and noticed any difference?
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Works fine for me. Never had a problem
Asphalt 8, NFS Mostwanted, Fifa 2014, GTA Vicecity, all running smoothly and lagfree on my I9500 on Omega rom V14 stock kernel
i have no problem in my i9500 and i9505 i am using wanam rom in both
Somethings weird on your phone... To everyone, the Adreno 320 and PowerVR SGX544 are pretty much the same in performance. On that note, I'm playing Asphalt 8 at around 40-50 FPS. No frame drops at all. Using a Canadian SGS4 so its a S600. Running Broodplanks Pure AOSP. Its most likely the best ROM for gaming. Gets 29000 in Antutu without any over clock.
I9500
here asphalt 8 is just fine..
around 40-55 fps. No overclock.
crash rom 8.8 stock mh1 kernel
I'm not at home so I cannot test. I play hearthstone on the PC, however, I now one of you play it. Can you test for me and let me know if you had to overclock
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en...tm_expid=68589644-24.yOgsCsWhSz-gOSDIbl82Wg.1
Thanks again.
I can confirm that it did work although it took awhile to get past the opening animation and load into the game. Once I was in I played a game and it went smoothly. only hung up on the ending explosion animation. Dragging cards out and press and hold for info on cards worked well. It isnt ideal and the absolute smoothest, but it worked well enough that I will be playing on tablet when I can't get out laptop.
Tried it on stock Lollipop and it was horribly slow and laggy. Loading a match took so long that I had already lost when it began. Pretty much unplayable for me.
This game is badly optimized....its just a card game with almost no animations....should run even on low end devices....was expecting a better work from a big company like blizz
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Hello !
Tested with Slimkat 4 on F2FS, it was a little laggy, and even crashed one time due to animations.
Now I have overclocked the GPU to 520 Mhz, and everything works fine, much more smooth :victory:
(sorry for bad english, french here)
No problem at all with Nexus 7 2012 and Rastapop Android 5.0.1 F2FS. I have played 4 games in 2 days.