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Moto E - Review from a G owner.

Ok, first things first, let me just say this phone absolutely unequivocally rocks. I was expecting this sub-£100 device to be pretty crappy in comparison to the Moto G which I already own. Nope. I was completely wrong.
I bought the Moto E three days ago from O2 as they were first to stock it online, it cost me £79. That's it, £79. No minimum top-up or delivery charge, which I'd also like to mention arrived the next morning.
First impression out the box, if you closed your eyes and held both the G and E together you'd be pushed to notice a difference between the two. The Moto E possibly feeling slightly chunkier, yet smaller at the same time?? Even with both eyes open they're virtually identical, and the similarities don't stop there.
The first thing that truly wowed me was that screen. For £79 you're getting an amazing screen for your money, it has the EXACT same clarity and vividness that the Moto G has, and to be honest I think it may actually be better (colour and backlight wise) , albeit very (very!) slightly smaller. Very crisp and sharp, I've never seen this on a phone less than £110-120. Amazing.
Next, CPU. Yes it's only dual core but I'm yet to experience any significant lag, if at all. Even Chrome is a breeze (which is nowadays renowned at being super slow on lower-end mobiles). GPU seems fine also, having tried Temple Run and Subway Surfer, they both never dipped any frame rates. So I can't really fault the onboard processors. Again: amazing.
Camera quality is not spectacular, but guys, this is a budget phone. To be fair the camera is perfect for everyday snaps, I doubt you'd really want more on a daily basis, not unless you're a professional photographer or have £500 for an iPhone.
The loudspeaker, from what I can tell has moved to the front of the phone and is located where the bottom silver bezel is. The top silver bezel obviously being the in-call speaker.
The battery (nearly 2000mAh!!!) is still on it's first charge since it arrived (yesterday morning) and is still reading 15% even after some fierce app installing and exploring.
Besides those main points I'm struggling to find any other major differences between the E and it's older brother.
Motorola are also bringing out new Grip-Shell back covers that replace the stock battery cover and provide a rubberised band around the phones perimeter (like a bumper case, but integrated into the phone). Can't wait to get my hands on them too, though I should think that will be a few weeks yet.
My final verdict is that this phone is an epic ground-breaker, other companies are truly going to struggle to compete with this device in regards to everything: cost, features etc.
My advice to you: find £80, buy this phone and a lottery ticket.
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Thanks for the review. I'm surprised about the screen being so good when it's nearly 30% less in PPI. Running so well on low specs is moto's specialty so that doesn't surprise me, neither the poor camera.
I still think the moto g is a better deal, especially when I got my 16gb version fro. Tesco for just over £100
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Not as surprised as I was, I was expecting a grainy narrow angle screen, like on the low-end samsungs. Complete opposite. I would probably agree with you about the Moto G though, that's still a bargain of the year considering it's specs.
I think the E will be aimed towards people that don't really want to spend a lot, don't really care about super-dooper specs, and just want a phone that works well.

Dont expect more, here in India its costsjust half than Moto G dual 16GB. So what it offers is good enough.
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I have a little concern for the CPU. So no lag, no problem ?
I'm coming from Xperia U and i would not have lags

I can honestly say that I am yet to experience any lag through everyday use. Just because it's dual core doesn't mean it's going to be equivalent to other dual core phones (ehem Samsung).

wish the camera had Autofocus too

Ankush menat said:
Dont expect more, here in India its costsjust half than Moto G dual 16GB. So what it offers is good enough.
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Got mine today and I am very impressed with it. Awesome phone and does look like premium device as compared to micromax.
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Ankush menat said:
Dont expect more, here in India its costsjust half than Moto G dual 16GB. So what it offers is good enough.
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moto g 4g with LTE and microsd slot is coming
you could buy the 8gb version and use a microsd

m11kkaa said:
moto g 4g with LTE and microsd slot is coming
you could buy the 8gb version and use a microsd
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Don't think that's coming to India.:what:
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nice review but i have a few questions
sikodemon said:
Ok, first things first, let me just say this phone absolutely unequivocally rocks. I was expecting this sub-£100 device to be pretty crappy in comparison to the Moto G which I already own. Nope. I was completely wrong.
I bought the Moto E three days ago from O2 as they were first to stock it online, it cost me £79. That's it, £79. No minimum top-up or delivery charge, which I'd also like to mention arrived the next morning.
First impression out the box, if you closed your eyes and held both the G and E together you'd be pushed to notice a difference between the two. The Moto E possibly feeling slightly chunkier, yet smaller at the same time?? Even with both eyes open they're virtually identical, and the similarities don't stop there.
The first thing that truly wowed me was that screen. For £79 you're getting an amazing screen for your money, it has the EXACT same clarity and vividness that the Moto G has, and to be honest I think it may actually be better (colour and backlight wise) , albeit very (very!) slightly smaller. Very crisp and sharp, I've never seen this on a phone less than £110-120. Amazing.
Next, CPU. Yes it's only dual core but I'm yet to experience any significant lag, if at all. Even Chrome is a breeze (which is nowadays renowned at being super slow on lower-end mobiles). GPU seems fine also, having tried Temple Run and Subway Surfer, they both never dipped any frame rates. So I can't really fault the onboard processors. Again: amazing.
Camera quality is not spectacular, but guys, this is a budget phone. To be fair the camera is perfect for everyday snaps, I doubt you'd really want more on a daily basis, not unless you're a professional photographer or have £500 for an iPhone.
The loudspeaker, from what I can tell has moved to the front of the phone and is located where the bottom silver bezel is. The top silver bezel obviously being the in-call speaker.
The battery (nearly 2000mAh!!!) is still on it's first charge since it arrived (yesterday morning) and is still reading 15% even after some fierce app installing and exploring.
Besides those main points I'm struggling to find any other major differences between the E and it's older brother.
Motorola are also bringing out new Grip-Shell back covers that replace the stock battery cover and provide a rubberised band around the phones perimeter (like a bumper case, but integrated into the phone). Can't wait to get my hands on them too, though I should think that will be a few weeks yet.
My final verdict is that this phone is an epic ground-breaker, other companies are truly going to struggle to compete with this device in regards to everything: cost, features etc.
My advice to you: find £80, buy this phone and a lottery ticket.
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can u or anyone confirm that google now launcher works the same on the moto e as the nexus 5 ? i mean like is it displayed well and fits the screen icons are not massive? also can u get the "ok google" hotword workinng with google search i think if u have the latest google search it should work think the latest is 3.4. also can anyone get usb otg working on the moto e ?

razorfs said:
can u or anyone confirm that google now launcher works the same on the moto e as the nexus 5 ? i mean like is it displayed well and fits the screen icons are not massive? also can u get the "ok google" hotword workinng with google search i think if u have the latest google search it should work think the latest is 3.4. also can anyone get usb otg working on the moto e ?
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Google now launcher working and fits perfectly. OK Google works with english (US) language.
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razorfs said:
can u or anyone confirm that google now launcher works the same on the moto e as the nexus 5 ? i mean like is it displayed well and fits the screen icons are not massive? also can u get the "ok google" hotword workinng with google search i think if u have the latest google search it should work think the latest is 3.4. also can anyone get usb otg working on the moto e ?
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And a user have posted a tut/app to make otg work...
here's link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2753582
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dhruvmu said:
Google now launcher working and fits perfectly. OK Google works with english (US) language.
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Thanks for that. Also how does the battery life compare to the moto g ? And have u tested any games on it like dead trigger 2 ? Dead effect ?
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And a user have posted a tut/app to make otg work...
here's link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2753582
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Thanks for this that's cool. Wonder if this phone will get rooted and some cyanogenmod etc ported would be cool

dhruvmu said:
Google now launcher working and fits perfectly. OK Google works with english (US) language.
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Anyone tried out the Google camera app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.GoogleCamera to see what works can u get panorama mode working etc ?

pranit123 said:
wish the camera had Autofocus too
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It does have auto focus.
I got my Moto G yesterday (XT1022, Indian version) and I paired it up with a 32 GB memory card that arrived today.
A few points.
The screen is pretty sharp. It's not the best but it's a HUGE step up from the Samsung Galaxy Y, HTC explorer and the Galaxy Ace and even the Sony Xperia M that I have plenty of experience with in this price range. It doesn't match up with the G though. But then again, I can always tell the difference between my N5 and N7. So, yeah...
2. No USB cable is a bummer. I have 2 more lying about and I transfer data over WiFi or cloud though and it's not really a problem for me but is it really that much more expensive to give a charger and cable separately?
3. I don't really care about benchmarks. If you've seen enough, they stop making sense and I've stopped caring about anything other than pure graphics benchmarks. But anyway, general performance is good, especially on ART. However you hit it's limits pretty fast and it is a good bit slower in general - even simple stuff like hitting a settings option gives makes the phone hesitate a tiny bit longer. But then, I can spot those on an N5. It's either equal to or slightly worse than the Moto G and people tell me don't see it at all. YMMV. I haven't this phone around
. so I can't really comment about the E just yet.
4. Touch response is good. None of the annoying stuff you see on most low end phones.
5. No freezes or hiccups so far. Software seems solid
6. Loudspeaker is LOUD. Try the pyxis ringtone to get all that loudness out
7. Both sim slots support 3G, but you might have to change this setting in dial sim setup
8. The headset provided is Meh. The Sony Xperia M headset is still SO much better. And the microphone appears to work in the E.
Those are all the things off the top off my head. Let me know of you guys have any questions.

razorfs said:
Anyone tried out the Google camera app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.GoogleCamera to see what works can u get panorama mode working etc ?
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Tried Google camera. Panaroma not there but there is lens blur and HDR.
Panaroma is in stock moto cam so you can use that.
razorfs said:
Thanks for that. Also how does the battery life compare to the moto g ? And have u tested any games on it like dead trigger 2 ? Dead effect ?
Don't have moto g so can't tell the difference. But as of now it seems phone can last a day on average usage.(Got it yestdy, its just my view).
Will report once I try dead trigger or dead effect.
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are you able to play large games like galaxy on fire 2 etc without lag

Played asphalt 8 without any issues. Like playing on moto e rather than my xperia ion.
Will report on other games as and when I try it.
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Antutu Benchmark Results
Here's the results from Antutu. Not bad considering it sits just below the S3.
As a comparison the Moto G resulted around ~17,200

[SPECS] Motorola Droid Turbo Specifications - Members Thoughts.

Hey all
The Motorola Droid Turbo packs some truly eye-watering specs, with a 5.2" QHD display and a powerful Quad-Core processor running at 2.65 GHz, whats not to like?
Feel free to comment on the hardware or overall design feature of the Motorola Droid Turbo:good:
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Display - IPS LCD, 1440 x 2560 pixels, 5.2 inches (~565 ppi pixel density)
Chipset - Qualcomm Snapdragon 805
CPU - Quad-core 2.65 GHz Krait 450
GPU - Adreno 420
RAM - 3GB
Memory - 32GB
Camera - 21MP, autofocus, dual-LED flash
Secondary Camera - 2MP
Sensors - Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Connectivity - Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot, Bluetooth v4.0
Battery - Non-removable 3900 mAh
Dimensions - 143.5 x 73.3 x 8.3 - 11.2mm
Weight - 169g
Source: gsmarena

I'm concerned about the 32gb coupled with no sd slot. They're putting 4k video recording capability on there (great!) but it seems limited without adequate storage capacity. Not a big fan of cap buttons. I'm also unsure about the difference a quad hd display makes on a 5.2" screen and more importantly if it's worth the tradeoff in battery life.
Other than those things I'm loving this phone. I'm a big moto fan and can't wait to see it in stores.

it is sad that its not going to have ext sd. i wasted my money on a 64gb extreme SD. Well ill just put it in my nexus 9. Really hope the turbo goes to 64gb internal though. Specs sound awesome i just wish it had a K1 64 bit in there, im sure android 5.0 and the 805soc will be extremely fluid, i just dont want to get it then a month later here that devs are really unleashing the potential of 64bit socs. Most importantly for me is the long battery life and awesome camera. 21 mp sounds nice so hopefully it will take some amazing photos and be quick. OIS better be there too. My GS4 takes awesome photos in HDR i just wish it was snappier. Love the fact they went with 5.2 qhd, perfect moto! If they want this thing to sell out then they need at least a 5mp front facing and an awesome price point. Most importantly, dont you dare put all that bloat in there!

Do you know the status of 5.0? That is my determining factor.
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donsmith1964 said:
Do you know the status of 5.0? That is my determining factor.
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why would 5.0 be the determining factor??? Even if the phone ships with 4.4.4 it will probably be the first device (maybe second to the Moto X) that will receive the update....
im holding out hope that it ships with 5.0...but i would imagine it would only be maybe a month or so before it is updated...it will be updated before any non-Moto devices get 5.0...

Metfanant said:
why would 5.0 be the determining factor??? Even if the phone ships with 4.4.4 it will probably be the first device (maybe second to the Moto X) that will receive the update....
im holding out hope that it ships with 5.0...but i would imagine it would only be maybe a month or so before it is updated...it will be updated before any non-Moto devices get 5.0...
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I guess after the Droid incredible 2 and Droid DNA I get skeptical.
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My main concern is that nothing has yet mentioned optical image stabilization. At 21MP, this thing will likely pick up shake pretty easily.
Rest of it looks like a beast

donsmith1964 said:
I guess after the Droid incredible 2 and Droid DNA I get skeptical.
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Those had sense overlay on top of them. This is stock Android. Totally different and takes much less time

volfan22 said:
Those had sense overlay on top of them. This is stock Android. Totally different and takes much less time
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Very good point. Plus it's a different company. Just waiting like everyone else.
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donsmith1964 said:
Very good point. Plus it's a different company. Just waiting like everyone else.
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Yeah and since Moto was just owned by Google, I would sure hope they get them out very rapidly lol.

donsmith1964 said:
I guess after the Droid incredible 2 and Droid DNA I get skeptical.
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Those had sense overlay on top of them. This is stock Android. Totally different and takes much less time
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Very good point. Plus it's a different company. Just waiting like everyone else.
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the 2013 Moto Droids were basically the first phones on 4.4...the Droids run as close to stock android as you can get without being stock they get updated crazy fast...

It has an ips display? Are you sure? The active display is pointless then. It would kill the battery.

Well, I couldn't be happier. I love the Nexus 6 specs, but i just don't want a phablet. So i was back to the same problem...M8, Moto X+1, z3v. But...they each are missing something i really wanted. I got my Galaxy Nexus 3 years ago...and when I got that I kept thinking the next phone would FINALLY be the phone, the one I've been waiting for. But, until now, nothing's come along. I'm FINALLY happy to pay full retail price to keep my unlimited data and get a sweet phone.
Downsides? I do wish it was IP67/8 rated, had the expandable memory, and a customizable back, but those are far from deal breakers. Now, i just want the price, release data, and if there'll be a play store version (I'm assuming highly unlikely...has there ever been a Droid in the Play Store?)

Not a play version, but there have been Dev. editions with unlockable bootloaders.

smokeydriver said:
Well, I couldn't be happier. I love the Nexus 6 specs, but i just don't want a phablet. So i was back to the same problem...M8, Moto X+1, z3v. But...they each are missing something i really wanted. I got my Galaxy Nexus 3 years ago...and when I got that I kept thinking the next phone would FINALLY be the phone, the one I've been waiting for. But, until now, nothing's come along. I'm FINALLY happy to pay full retail price to keep my unlimited data and get a sweet phone.
Downsides? I do wish it was IP67/8 rated, had the expandable memory, and a customizable back, but those are far from deal breakers. Now, i just want the price, release data, and if there'll be a play store version (I'm assuming highly unlikely...has there ever been a Droid in the Play Store?)
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The waterproof coating they use (assuming its the same as the 2013 moto x) is really good. Other than having to wait for your speaker to dry out to sound normal you could basically dunk it under water without concern. I didn't do it...but other people did

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It has an ips display? Are you sure? The active display is pointless then. It would kill the battery.
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I'm wondering this as well. What sources state that it will have an ips display?
The nexus 6 seems to have amoled, so it really only makes sense for Motorola to continue the trend and support their active display.

The only reason I wouldn't get this instead of the Nexus 6 is because I just can't have a locked bootloader and root that is virtually impossible to crack until it's too late ie. the Droid Ultra/Maxx and all devs have moved on to more developer friendly phones

If I'm right...don't they usually release/announce the Developer Verizon months later? Cause unless it'll be within a month of the initial release, I can't keep dealing with my GNex. I've run every ROM out there... and this thing needs to be euthanized
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So I was looking for the user manual for this thing. It's easy to find a ton of websites talking about the manual, and linking to it. You either get a dead link or to another article that shows a page or two. Didn't anyone download the entire manual where I can get it?

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Selling Moto Maxx From Mexico Jaocagomez

Thread on sending moto maxx from mexico to your country:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...ion-coming-t2922398/post56726486#post56726486
Trying Again! will keep you posted
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I just saw on this sites that on wednesday next week, Motorola Brasil will present a phone very similar (if not the same) than the Droid Turbo, so i'll keep my fingers crossed.
i dont speak portuguese but its so similar to spanish that i can translate it to: ''you are a invited for a technological experience without limits''
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GSM ARENA ARTICLE said:
The new Motorola Droid Turbo garnered great interest but as a Verizon-exclusive it felt out of reach. Now Motorola is sending out invites for a November 5 event to announce a global rollout. The invite doesn't call out the device by name but the corner of the back shows Droid Turbo's characteristic Ballistic Nylon back.
Rumors are for a name change to Moto Maxx, resurrecting the Maxx brand, which is associated with some of the most long-lasting batteries in the smartphone history.
It's a fitting name too, the Droid Turbo packs a 3,900mAh battery, which can soak up 8 hours' worth of battery life in just 15 minutes thanks to the Turbo Charger. Other specs include one of the sharpest displays yet, a 5.2" QHD AMOLED, a Snapdragon 805 chipset and a 21MP/2160p camera. Check out our hands-on for more details.
Motorola has already filed for a "Moto Maxx" trademark in the US and is planning a Brazil announcement, so the phone should see a proper global rollout, including alternative US carriers.
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http://pocketnow.com/2014/10/29/international-droid-turbo?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Looks like we are getting it after all!
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Its official, we have a international droid turbo called Moto maxx!
http://www.motorola.com.mx/consumers/mobile-phones/Moto-Maxx/moto-maxx-mx.html

Now that would be cool....for us.... And profitable for Motorola....So why they shouldn't??

Just saw this myself and was going to post it. I'm totally sold assuming no weirdness happens to the phone (gets neutered, 3G only, etc) on the way to market.

I was just about to post something about liking the Turbo phone but not a Verizon client. Not even in the US.
This would be a much worth it upgrade from the Moto X. The Moto X is prettier that's for sure, but the processor power, and power management (battery and rapid charging) are totally worth it.

Moto x has rapid charging fwiw!

Let's analyse this a bit further:
This phone is a flagship killer for the following reasons:
The most powerful processor so far
Great screen
Great battery life
Good size for a phone
Great Camera
Front facing speaker
Great user experience:
It's also safe to assume that all the software features are shared (driving mode, touchless controls, assist, etc...
Losing the Verizon branding also indicates that the bloatware is gone, delivering a closer to Vanilla Android experience as ever. This also means that the phone will get updates much earlier than branded version (theoretically)
Not so great:
No expandable memory, no SD slot
Can look better
Doesn't have the Moto X curved back, which once you experience, you feel really awkward holding other phones in your hand.
Lack of front facing dual speakers
Size and weight (a trade-off for exceptional battery life)
Capacitive buttons (and for many reasons):
Android L comes with a different button icon set, means the current capacitive buttons are going to be outdated
I prefer having (and I do add using GravityBox) a menu button at the far right
Phone space wasted even though it frees up more room on the screen
If they add the SD support, improve the look, get it curved, add dual facing speakers, remove capacitive buttons and get it a little bit smaller (even if it means a smaller screen maybe 5 inch) in my opinion this would be THE PERFECT phone.
How is that for a phone review?

I agree about the cap buttons, I greatly prefer to setup an old school four button setup which obviously cant be done with the capacitive unless I want to give up screen real estate or go to pie etc. Still this phone is about the only one that captures my interest right now and I need something new cause the phone slut in me is crying out for something new. I just read that the Moto Maxx name has been trademarked in the US btw so that makes it likely that it will have the right freqs for Tmo and/or AT&T even if it doesn't see carrier release. And further implies (I think) a global release. They claim such here... http://www.gsmarena.com/a_global_ve...turbo_to_be_unveiled_in_brazil-news-10075.php

It's very optimistic, however, Motorola is known for late strategic moves. Moto X price has been reduced dramatically after a few months of its launch and this is when -according to what I know- the value and popularity of it went way up.
Also I am expecting some legal restrictions in the Motorola-Verizon agreement that might (or might not) make this international version launch come later, or with different (maybe lower) specs, or overly priced.
I hope it comes out tomorrow and with an affordable price (following Motorola's new affordability strategy,) but hey, the world we live in is not a perfect one.

ITS ****ING COMING TO MEXICO!
**** YEAH!!!!!!
i dont have to import this one.
invitation in spanish from motorola mexico: ''we invite you to meet our best hidden secret''
same day, november 5
OMG im so excited!

LOOOOL, bought the Moto X 2nd gen 1 month ago....and now, sellling...hahahah
definitily ill buy Droid Maxx!!!!, its coming to Brazil!!, 5th November!!!

tasty_boy said:
LOOOOL, bought the Moto X 2nd gen 1 month ago....and now, sellling...hahahah
definitily ill buy Droid Maxx!!!!, its coming to Brazil!!, 5th November!!!
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I would really wait for the announcement first on the 5th before selling the Moto X.

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It's very optimistic, however, Motorola is known for late strategic moves. Moto X price has been reduced dramatically after a few months of its launch and this is when -according to what I know- the value and popularity of it went way up.
Also I am expecting some legal restrictions in the Motorola-Verizon agreement that might (or might not) make this international version launch come later, or with different (maybe lower) specs, or overly priced.
I hope it comes out tomorrow and with an affordable price (following Motorola's new affordability strategy,) but hey, the world we live in is not a perfect one.
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I wouldn't rule out a neutering either which is why I mentioned it above. Still I think there is hope, Motorola got in deep with Verizon because they needed them when they were on the long slide down but this is no longer the case. Nor am I sure Verizon really cares all that much since the vast majority of people wouldn't know the new "droid" and it's international counterpart where the same thing. For this reason I'm hoping if it is restricted it will only be carrier release in the US but admittedly that's in part due to wishful thinking.

I am hoping for it myself, I just don't want to have that much high hopes, so that I don't get greatly disappointed pessimistic view I know. Hope is there though, I agree. The fact is the droid turbo is winning card, hopefully Motorola is "allowed" to use it, and Verizon can be a little forgiving.

Kiwironic said:
I am hoping for it myself, I just don't want to have that much high hopes, so that I don't get greatly disappointed pessimistic view I know. Hope is there though, I agree. The fact is the droid turbo is winning card, hopefully Motorola is "allowed" to use it, and Verizon can be a little forgiving.
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its almost sure that we will get it, first with the FCC and now with these worldwide annoucements, next week we will know.

Hoping for a UK launch! This (apart from the capacitive buttons) is better for me than the Nexus 6.

Are we there yet?

Really hoping that I can get this in Canada or import it in Canada for 800$.

Kiwironic said:
Let's analyse this a bit further:
This phone is a flagship killer for the following reasons:
The most powerful processor so far
Great screen
Great battery life
Good size for a phone
Great Camera
Front facing speaker
Great user experience:
It's also safe to assume that all the software features are shared (driving mode, touchless controls, assist, etc...
Losing the Verizon branding also indicates that the bloatware is gone, delivering a closer to Vanilla Android experience as ever. This also means that the phone will get updates much earlier than branded version (theoretically)
Not so great:
No expandable memory, no SD slot
Can look better
Doesn't have the Moto X curved back, which once you experience, you feel really awkward holding other phones in your hand.
Lack of front facing dual speakers
Size and weight (a trade-off for exceptional battery life)
Capacitive buttons (and for many reasons):
Android L comes with a different button icon set, means the current capacitive buttons are going to be outdated
I prefer having (and I do add using GravityBox) a menu button at the far right
Phone space wasted even though it frees up more room on the screen
If they add the SD support, improve the look, get it curved, add dual facing speakers, remove capacitive buttons and get it a little bit smaller (even if it means a smaller screen maybe 5 inch) in my opinion this would be THE PERFECT phone.
How is that for a phone review?
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You forgot to mention that it has wireless charging. This is a big selling point for me since I have a Nexus 5 and was the main reason I wasn't going to get a Moto X. With such a large battery it's perhaps not necessary on the Turbo, but since I'm using a new Nexus Qi charger as my car's dash mount, I really didn't want to lose that.

Nastybutler said:
You forgot to mention that it has wireless charging. This is a big selling point for me since I have a Nexus 5 and was the main reason I wasn't going to get a Moto X. With such a large battery it's perhaps not necessary on the Turbo, but since I'm using a new Nexus Qi charger as my car's dash mount, I really didn't want to lose that.
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To be honest, that was deliberate. My understanding is that Wireless charging is SLOOOOOOW, so freaking slow.
Think of how "Normal" charging is so slow compared to the phone's turbo charge, then think of even slower than that. Once you go turbo charge, you won't be able to come back.
See my point?
Oh by the way, it's the 5th of November here in New Zealand, but I guess I will have to wait another day or two.
Remember remember the 5th of November.

Update:
Hey guys,
Here are some good news:
Source: http://www.gsmarena.com/moto_maxx_international_droid_turbo_smiles_for_the_camera-news-10120.php
More:
Moto Maxx Confirmed As Droid Turbo International Version To Be Launched On November 5 In Brazil
Moto Maxx, the international version of Droid Turbo appears

Android 5.1 Lollipop Moto e 2nd Generation

Android 5.1 will be soon available for Moto E 2nd Generation .
Picture has been leaked .
Source and Leaked Pictures

moto will release 5.1 for all of the moto g and moto e , x lineup. tbh i got bored with my moto e and gave it to my wife. just picked up a moto g 4g lte for $150 on sale from moto. much better device for the money and its got seasoned development.

harsinghal said:
Android 5.1 will be soon available for Moto E 2nd Generation .
Picture has been leaked .
Source and Leaked Pictures
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My Bootloader is unlocked, will i be able to receive update? But the OS is intact

fix-this! said:
moto will release 5.1 for all of the moto g and moto e , x lineup. tbh i got bored with my moto e and gave it to my wife. just picked up a moto g 4g lte for $150 on sale from moto. much better device for the money and its got seasoned development.
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Yeah screen size is very small ..

santoshvaza said:
My Bootloader is unlocked, will i be able to receive update? But the OS is intact
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Unfortunately , no !

santoshvaza said:
My Bootloader is unlocked, will i be able to receive update? But the OS is intact
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Yes you will still get OTA updates. Whether your bootloader is locked or unlocked doesn't matter

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fix-this! said:
moto will release 5.1 for all of the moto g and moto e , x lineup. tbh i got bored with my moto e and gave it to my wife. just picked up a moto g 4g lte for $150 on sale from moto. much better device for the money and its got seasoned development.
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Out of curiosity, apart from the lack of development, what do you like about the 1st generation Moto G over the 2nd generation Moto E? It has the same size display, a smaller battery, and an inferior processor.

I know the moto g lte is supposed to be better all around, but it's antutu benchmark (17000+) is lower than the moto e lte (22000+). Are there other benchmarks that show it differently?
It seems to me the pluses and minuses of each (screen, battery, etc) make it a wash.

santoshvaza said:
My Bootloader is unlocked, will i be able to receive update? But the OS is intact
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I don't think you'll receive update.
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rster said:
I know the moto g lte is supposed to be better all around, but it's antutu benchmark (17000+) is lower than the moto e lte (22000+). Are there other benchmarks that show it differently?
It seems to me the pluses and minuses of each (screen, battery, etc) make it a wash.
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Actually, the Moto E 2015 (LTE) has the better processor. Not by a huge amount, but it's a new generation of processor so it's normal that in some cpu related benchmarks it would pull ahead (specifically if they take advantage of the new instructions provided in the Cortex A53 cores (vs Cortex A7 for the S400)).
Also, the smaller screen size makes graphics easier on the GPU so there, too, the E should win.
To sum it up, the moto G LTE may be better all around, but definitely not on the CPU/GPU level. It's just provided with better screen resolution/camera & front cam/notification light (and tbh I think that's about it )
For me, the E is definitely the better choice.

rster said:
I know the moto g lte is supposed to be better all around, but it's antutu benchmark (17000+) is lower than the moto e lte (22000+). Are there other benchmarks that show it differently?
It seems to me the pluses and minuses of each (screen, battery, etc) make it a wash.
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well first off because it was voted the best budget smartphone.
the lcd is not smaller than the moto e 2015. they are both 4.5" also the g has much better pixel density and has more features.
the cpu may be the s400 but again the reviews ive seen didn't have any complaints. my main reason was for development.
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_e_%282015%29-6986.php
vs
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_g_4g-6355.php

I guess I wasn't too clear. I agree with everything dryhte wrote and prefer my E LTE 2015 to the G LTE 2014. I once bought a G which is a very good phone, returned it for an X which is a great phone. I gave the X to my wife and now am happy with my E, assuming the stock firmware gets released soon. And with time, maybe some of the super-devs will make use of the 64 bits.

Many of people bought Moto E for development , i think ... But although its a good device according to its money ..

I don't care so much about 5.1 (although it would be nice); I'd like some, IMO, major bugs to be fixed ASAP:
Multiple times a day I will touch the power button and the home screen will show up for a few seconds before the lockscreen shows up;
Moto Display will show up as a notification for no apparent reason (never had this on the Moto X);
Closing it seems to do nothing so I don't see why it is there in the first place.
The lockscreen notifications system seems to be buggy, especially with Spotify, where notifications will randomly disappear so I cannot control music on the lockscreen;
This doesn't happen with any other Lollipop phone I use so that leads me to believe that is an issue with the software on this phone.
The memory leak bug - enough said.
Those are just a few off the top of my head.

AlecRobertson said:
I don't care so much about 5.1 (although it would be nice); I'd like some, IMO, major bugs to be fixed ASAP:
Multiple times a day I will touch the power button and the home screen will show up for a few seconds before the lockscreen shows up;
Moto Display will show up as a notification for no apparent reason (never had this on the Moto X);
Closing it seems to do nothing so I don't see why it is there in the first place.
The lockscreen notifications system seems to be buggy, especially with Spotify, where notifications will randomly disappear so I cannot control music on the lockscreen;
This doesn't happen with any other Lollipop phone I use so that leads me to believe that is an issue with the software on this phone.
The memory leak bug - enough said.
Those are just a few off the top of my head.
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I have these same issues and would love if they were fixed.

qbking77 said:
Yes you will still get OTA updates. Whether your bootloader is locked or unlocked doesn't matter
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that's correct. just make sure that you have the stock recovery on board. so ota will work.

Should I Buy Moto E 2nd Generation
I wanted to buy a affordable phone and everyone knows that Moto E is the best low budget phone.
The only problem that seems to be in Moto E is its Camera.
I wanted to know that are you guys satisfied with camera of Moto E
Specially the Front Camera. :fingers-crossed:

stech99 said:
I wanted to buy a affordable phone and everyone knows that Moto E is the best low budget phone.
The only problem that seems to be in Moto E is its Camera.
I wanted to know that are you guys satisfied with camera of Moto E
Specially the Front Camera. :fingers-crossed:
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The front camera plainly sucks, but then I knew about that I don't make selfies and if I use the front cam it's only for skype type video chat (for which it's plenty good enough).
I think everyone was warned (reviews/specs) that the front cam is only VGA (640x480 pixels, 0,3 MP).

great thanks for info
thanks really cant wait

dryhte said:
The front camera plainly sucks, but then I knew about that I don't make selfies and if I use the front cam it's only for skype type video chat (for which it's plenty good enough).
I think everyone was warned (reviews/specs) that the front cam is only VGA (640x480 pixels, 0,3 MP).
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Hahaha..
Ok Ok
Then what about other things.
Do you like your phone.
Should I buy Moto E or go with something else.

Nexus 4 user -- curious about E experience

As mentioned, I'm a Nexus 4 owner. My phone has developed hardware problems though, and I'm looking at replacing it -- mainly focusing on the Moto G and E.
I'm not a hardcore phone user; other than communications mostly use it for music (Google, Pandora, Youtube), light reading, occasional surfing in line, and a single non-graphics intensive game. I also use my phone to double as a camera when I'm out walking and something cool comes up though, which is the main reason I'm considering the G over E. Price isn't a huge issue, but I don't see the need to buy some fancy $600 phone for my light use.
All that said, I'm not on a contract, and was wondering about the OS/experience/apps on the E. I've only ever been a Nexus owner, because I wanted to avoid carrier/manufacturer stuff. How easy/feasible is it to get to a version of the latest stock Android OS without any Motorola/etc. stuff on the phone -- essentially, to replicate my basic 4 interface/experience? How far behind are E OS updates behind stock Android updates? Is there any general timeline for how much longer it will continue to be updated?
Thank you for your time.

Rainshine said:
As mentioned, I'm a Nexus 4 owner. My phone has developed hardware problems though, and I'm looking at replacing it -- mainly focusing on the Moto G and E.
I'm not a hardcore phone user; other than communications mostly use it for music (Google, Pandora, Youtube), light reading, occasional surfing in line, and a single non-graphics intensive game. I also use my phone to double as a camera when I'm out walking and something cool comes up though, which is the main reason I'm considering the G over E. Price isn't a huge issue, but I don't see the need to buy some fancy $600 phone for my light use.
All that said, I'm not on a contract, and was wondering about the OS/experience/apps on the E. I've only ever been a Nexus owner, because I wanted to avoid carrier/manufacturer stuff. How easy/feasible is it to get to a version of the latest stock Android OS without any Motorola/etc. stuff on the phone -- essentially, to replicate my basic 4 interface/experience? How far behind are E OS updates behind stock Android updates? Is there any general timeline for how much longer it will continue to be updated?
Thank you for your time.
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I presume you are interested in the LTE model. Moto E updates will probably around 2 months behind Nexus updates. The device has already received the 5.1 update, and I'd expect it to receive the Android M update as well. Beyond that version, I'm not sure how long Motorola will support it, but I'd expect a fairly long support life for this model since the MSM8916 is a new generation SoC. The OS experience is pretty clean and good (provided you don't get a carrier bloatware infested model). The original 5.0 stock ROM was a bit rough around the edges, but the phone is very smooth and great with 5.1 installed. Stock software and CPU wise, it's a good user experience. It has excellent battery life too.
In terms of aftermarket ROMs, the device is still fairly new, but it has a growing development community (myself included). Not everything works perfectly on the custom ROMs right now, but I'd expect things to improve over the next month or two.
The camera will probably disappoint you though. The rear camera is usable in good lighting, but mediocre in indoor lighting. The front facing camera is quite poor (noisy and low resolution).
The second generation Moto G has a better camera than the E LTE, but it has an older and slower CPU. I'd expect the 2nd gen Moto E with its new SoC to continue receiving updates significantly longer than the 2nd gen Moto G. I guess you want to get a device right away since your Nexus has stopped working, but if you can wait a little while, the 3rd gen Moto G will probably be coming out soon.

Rainshine said:
As mentioned, I'm a Nexus 4 owner. My phone has developed hardware problems though, and I'm looking at replacing it -- mainly focusing on the Moto G and E.
I'm not a hardcore phone user; other than communications mostly use it for music (Google, Pandora, Youtube), light reading, occasional surfing in line, and a single non-graphics intensive game. I also use my phone to double as a camera when I'm out walking and something cool comes up though, which is the main reason I'm considering the G over E. Price isn't a huge issue, but I don't see the need to buy some fancy $600 phone for my light use.
All that said, I'm not on a contract, and was wondering about the OS/experience/apps on the E. I've only ever been a Nexus owner, because I wanted to avoid carrier/manufacturer stuff. How easy/feasible is it to get to a version of the latest stock Android OS without any Motorola/etc. stuff on the phone -- essentially, to replicate my basic 4 interface/experience? How far behind are E OS updates behind stock Android updates? Is there any general timeline for how much longer it will continue to be updated?
Thank you for your time.
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Honestly I own a 1st gen Moto G, 2nd Gen Moto X and the 2015 Moto E... I think for your wants and needs and if you do the research your be happier with an X ... All the above mentioned are great devices in their own respects but I found the X at the price point to be an excellent device without and significant compromise. The Moto E with LTE is a decent device with a so so display and a lack luster camera...other than that solid for a entry level phone. The G has a decent display and a better camera but at the price point may as well look for an X on sale ... Just something to think about.
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The camera on the moto e is a downgrade from the Nexus 4. And it has no flash. I think the biggest thing to take into consideration is the screen size you want. And if you want a stock Android experience with no bloat. You should probably stay with the Nexus line. Since it sounds like 2 nexus phones are coming out this fall.
And is the hardware problem on your phone the battery bulging out the back?

I should be picking mine (VZ) up from BB tomorrow or Tuesday. If you still don't have the phone by then I'll compare it to my N4 for you.
"I'd Totally Hug You, If That Was Something I Did"

I'm coming from a nexus 4 and let me tell you... The battery life killed my interest in my old nexus 4
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I recently bought a Moto E 2nd Gen LTE. I came from a Galaxy SIII (problem on the bootloader files in another thread). My impressions on the Moto E:
-For the price of AU$240, you get a reasonably fast device, it's not faster than my old S III but it does the job.
-Battery life is impressive, it really is, no kidding. Fo far my personal record is 2 days 10 hours 22 min , by just connecting it when driving using the GPS (2 times a day). Normal use. With a bit more intense use (including Skype for about 15 - 20min ) it last a full day and still some juice in the bank
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-I like the lack of bloatware and almost pure android experience. Moto has little add ons
- I don't know how fast Android updates will come up.
-Camera in the other hand ... ... is not as good. Again I can compare with my S III and it's way behind in colours, sharpness and general performance. ahhhh and it does not have a LED -flash.
Hope this can help in your decision making.

Are you up for WP? 640's are going for $80-100. Yes it's not Nexus, and it's not even Android. But I've always been impressed by the cleanliness and purity of WP. Apparently Wal-Mart is selling AT&T 640's for eighty bucks (and AT&T phones can be unlocked without an AT&T account). Just an idea.

My nexus4 died while I was at diner last weekend, so I went to the best buy next door and purchased the 3g/1gb ram version (xt1511) for $80. I'm really happy with it, the battery really is impressive! There is a noticeable lag when opening an app or switching between apps, but once in an app it functions smoothly and quickly. My version doesn't seem to be carrier specific, I think it was labeled as GSM unlocked at best buy. My phone is running stock 5.0.2