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[Q] need assistance ---defy just rebooting and rebooting after 2ndinit install

need assistance ---defy just rebooting and rebooting
i installed the rom amanger premium
after that i installed the 2ndInit from market for android and installed the latest version .....and after that i uncheck the usb debugging and restarted the defy
since then its auto rebooting from logo to black screen and back to logo ....
please help me i am new to this and really pissed off .......

Flash stock sbf using RSD lite.
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jassi32 said:
need assistance ---defy just rebooting and rebooting
i installed the rom amanger premium
after that i installed the 2ndInit from market for android and installed the latest version .....and after that i uncheck the usb debugging and restarted the defy
since then its auto rebooting from logo to black screen and back to logo ....
please help me i am new to this and really pissed off .......
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Check if the blue led comes on during boot and press down volume button then check the settings if not you gotta install a another rom I suggest nordic ii with cm7 cant go wrong
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Thank you guyszzzzzzzzzzz:d:d:d:d:d:d:d:d

hey guys,my first post here....
i am stuck with the infinite reboot loop from moto logo after i tried the 2ndinit install.my phones just a month old and i can use it now
i can get into the stock recovery menu by pressing -vol while booting,nothing is making any difference there.
if i press the +vol key while booting,it goes into bootloader menu,but it says battery low,cannot program. i had just rooted my phone and was trying to take a nandroid backup when this happened.
please help save my defy :-s

BUMP................

Im not a expert nor its will be t best solution, Recharge your battery on another device.. Next , try first turn on defy with vol press down, when android signal logo appears, its not boot logo..., press up & down at same time, then wipe data.. It will reset your data. Another solution its flash any sbf of your taste with rsd lite. There is a tutorial for defy beginers on stickies & defy wiki , its contain all info you will need
Giuliano
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i update to cm 7.1 a month ago and i added my phone number in settings.....
and when flashed the sea15 froyo of my country , the phone number is still there .....any help on how to remove it stock rom or else have flash back cm7.1 to erase it ....
i want help i need to send defy for service repair .....please help .....
and thanks in advance ......

im having the same problem month ago i cant figure it out , after installing 2ndinit and the led turn into blue i reboot my device but it keeps rebooting over and over iv been searching xda fourms for one month now for a solution but all in vain , im stuck with 2.2.2 froyo i can't install CM7 or MS2Ginger , i've heard that i have to install bootmenu or something but im not sure how to !! btw once i click install recovery in 2ndinit it says success but i still can read 2ndinit recovery NOT currently installed and when i try to press uninstall it says there is nothing to do!!
please if some 1 can help me it would be a life saver for me

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Strange Bricked Defy ?

Hi all,
I have a friend's Defy from a French carrier and my friend is with another carrier so I decide to SIM unlock it by installing CM7 and other files.
So I have root it and install the recovery.
In recovery, I have flash CM7 and Gapps.
But I get a boot loop...
So I decided to flash JORDN_U3_97.21.51 SBF and restart from scratch.
But now, the phone wont boot at all.
Nothing on the screen but it's still reconized by RSD (even if nothing is displayed on the screen) I can re-flash SBF files and RSD say "PASS" but doesn't reboot the phone.
So now I have a brick and can't boot vol up + power doesn't display anything.
Dose anyone have an idea for me ?
Thank you.

1st don't loose your battery - when no working system on the device then it is not being charged
You wrote nothing about wipes - have u performed them? If not try to get into any recovery and wipe user data / factory reset, try vol- w/power or vol + & - together, take a battery for some time before doing it etc.
What ROM u had before flashing CM7?
Is it defy or defy+?
And you flashed CG5 sbf
When you give more details maybe I can propose proper solution.

You wrote nothing about wipes - have u performed them? If not try to get into any recovery and wipe user data / factory reset, try vol- w/power or vol + & - together, take a battery for some time before doing it etc.
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If I understood right, OP's DEFY is completely bricked and he cannot even access recovery.
Anyway, I unfortunately no solution to propose as I have a DEFY in the same situtation and I'm currently unable to revive it. We aren't the only who had DEFY bricked like this and some managed to have it wake up by flashing certain sbf.
You can try searching "bricked defy" on XDA and see what sbf the topic creator used to save his DEFY, if he succeeded to.

dont flash sbf just after the bootloop..!
-JFK- said:
Hi all,
I have a friend's Defy from a French carrier and my friend is with another carrier so I decide to SIM unlock it by installing CM7 and other files.
So I have root it and install the recovery.
In recovery, I have flash CM7 and Gapps.
But I get a boot loop...
So I decided to flash JORDN_U3_97.21.51 SBF and restart from scratch.
But now, the phone wont boot at all.
Nothing on the screen but it's still reconized by RSD (even if nothing is displayed on the screen) I can re-flash SBF files and RSD say "PASS" but doesn't reboot the phone.
So now I have a brick and can't boot vol up + power doesn't display anything.
Dose anyone have an idea for me ?
Thank you.
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frend i wanna tell u onething.the very first time i did the flashing of cm7.1stable on froyo 2.2.2defy i got a bootloop..since i was in hostel i cudnt afford internet..so i was soo scared and even waited for 15 min..but the cm7 logo with an arrow swirling around didnt stop..i puld the batery out and again inserted and did something stupid like clearing data and got the condition worse
then i flashed sbf using rsd lite ..again rooted and flashed cm7.1 stable and got bootloop..this time i surfed net and found what shud hav been done ..
1)pull out the battery after the boootloop.
2)clear cache
3)reboot
tats it..the welcome window comes in no time..
so coming to the present issue, after flashing the smf did u get bootanimation with light passing over "android" againg and again ??

Check that u r using the latest RSD.
I have a Defy plus but the same thing happened to me before (black screen even no boot with vol up) so I connected my phone to the computer (I can't really remember if I powered with a vol up or not) but I got it recognized by the RSD. try connecting and powering on the the vol up if nothing just connect and see what will happen.
The most important thing is to use the latest version of RSD.
and please tell me if it worked.
I'm not responsible for anything.

Defy Flash Bootloader Err:A5,70,39,00,27

Hello mates,
this morning I've taken to update the defy of CM10-20120810 to 20120904 CM10-last (had 2.3.4 kernel "kernel-gb-234-451-134-signed")
but after upgrading, has given me the battery fault that I was 100%
I tried several times to put him the Fix battery, but nothing at all ...
so I've taken to "Flashing" the Defy, first I tested with
ME722BL6.sbf
later with
rom_froyo.sbf
and when I RDSLite says "the phone is beein Rebbot" or something .. I restart, get the Motorola logo disappears .. and goes blank ..
and puts me in RDSLite "Finished" and "PASS"
Defy but does nothing ... and when I press the power button is switched off, give it back, turn again as "Bootloader" with the following error
Err: A5, 70,39,00,27
I've also tried to say next. "sbf"
bl7-2.3fix.sbf
526krfix.sbf
Vodafone and the original:
JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_179-4.4_VFSBLUR_SIGN_SIGNED_USAJRDNEMARAB1B8VFES03A.0R _PDS03C_USAJRDNFRYOVFES_P028_A018_M002_HWp3_Servic e1FF.sbf
all with the same result ...
can help me???
I'm already not to do ... took all day ..

Which stock ROM were you on? If you flash the same ROM again, you should not have this problem. This happens mostly if you flash a ROM with lower BL than the current one on your phone.

andr0idfreak said:
Which stock ROM were you on? If you flash the same ROM again, you should not have this problem. This happens mostly if you flash a ROM with lower BL than the current one on your phone.
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The first SBF i put, there rom_froyo.sbf (original from motorola i think)
before i try to upgrade to CM10-20120904 i have kernel 2.3.4 and i think that the same "rom_froyo.sbf", because i made only one time Flash with RDSLite...
from first and unique flash with RDSLite, only i made update from recovery mode - install zip from sd
only put cm7, cm9 and cm10, then the Gapps... and the last time when upgrade to cm10 i made, install cm10.zip, install kernel 2.3.4, and install gapps...

Any idea about the firmware version?

andr0idfreak said:
Any idea about the firmware version of rom_froyo.sbf ?
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i have no idea..
i think that is 2.2 from motorola
i get it from HTCMania
w w w. htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=219893
but now links are not valid...

As you flashed ME722BL6.sbf, you are now on BL6 and I assume that's a Defy+ ROM, so no downgrade to Froyo. Try flashing the ME722BL6.sbf file again and don't flash froyo ROM on top of it. If it gets stuck on M logo, go to recovery and do a factory reset.
If you have a greenlens defy, you can no longer use the camera.

andr0idfreak said:
As you flashed ME722BL6.sbf, you are now on BL6 and I assume that's a Defy+ ROM, so no downgrade to Froyo. Try flashing the ME722BL6.sbf file again and don't flash froyo ROM on top of it. If it gets stuck on M logo, go to recovery and do a factory reset.
If you have a greenlens defy, you can no longer use the camera.
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I have normal defy, with red lense (bayer)
the principal problem now is that can not made nothing... only it put in white led when i connected to usb...(no combination (power+vol+ or power vpl-) made nothing)

Try this: Pull out battery. Keep volume + pressed. Insert battery and then press power button. It should now enter bootloader mode. Connect it now to PC and then flash SBF with RSD.

andr0idfreak said:
Try this: Pull out battery. Keep volume + pressed. Insert battery and then press power button. It should now enter bootloader mode. Connect it now to PC and then flash SBF with RSD.
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I'm trying to charge the battery via USB cut,
red wire to positive and black to negative,
I'll leave loading an hour or more, and try again.
what "sbf" do you recommend that put in defy? BL6 or BL7 ...
Could you put the recommended "sbf" links?
thanks.

Charging on unregulated USB for an hour can kill your battery
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did you fix it?

Guys please help me
iam in BL7.When i flash the bl7 sbf .First i get bootloader code courrpt message .then i remove the battery it show the message bootloader err:A5,69,4E,00,41
Rsd lite 4.9,5.6,5.7 did not detect my defy .iam format my laptop two times .it detect my defy .pls guys help me from the problem

ela1103 said:
Guys please help me
iam in BL7.When i flash the bl7 sbf .First i get bootloader code courrpt message .then i remove the battery it show the message bootloader err:A5,69,4E,00,41
Rsd lite 4.9,5.6,5.7 did not detect my defy .iam format my laptop two times .it detect my defy .pls guys help me from the problem
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What defy you have: red, green or plus? You cant install lower rom than 188. If you have plus - you'll have all things working, red - battery can make work with batt fixes, green - camera will never work on BL7, only on CM10,CM9.1 or other roms with custom kernel. You're stuck on BL7 so try flash 231 sbf. Read this post, you'll find more info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12419400&postcount=3

Plz Help
gark81 said:
Hello mates,
this morning I've taken to update the defy of CM10-20120810 to 20120904 CM10-last (had 2.3.4 kernel "kernel-gb-234-451-134-signed")
but after upgrading, has given me the battery fault that I was 100%
I tried several times to put him the Fix battery, but nothing at all ...
so I've taken to "Flashing" the Defy, first I tested with
ME722BL6.sbf
later with
rom_froyo.sbf
and when I RDSLite says "the phone is beein Rebbot" or something .. I restart, get the Motorola logo disappears .. and goes blank ..
and puts me in RDSLite "Finished" and "PASS"
Defy but does nothing ... and when I press the power button is switched off, give it back, turn again as "Bootloader" with the following error
Err: A5, 70,39,00,27
I've also tried to say next. "sbf"
bl7-2.3fix.sbf
526krfix.sbf
Vodafone and the original:
JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_179-4.4_VFSBLUR_SIGN_SIGNED_USAJRDNEMARAB1B8VFES03A.0R _PDS03C_USAJRDNFRYOVFES_P028_A018_M002_HWp3_Servic e1FF.sbf
all with the same result ...
can help me???
I'm already not to do ... took all day ..
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Hi Frnd,
How you solve this problem, I have the same problem...
Plz, help me.... in Advnc Thanx......

[Q] Black screen and bootloop

Hi,
1. I rooted my phone successfully.
2. I installed droid2recovery.apk
3. Restarted. Installed CM10 and Gaaps (wrong version)
4. Reboot. Everything was normal with some annoyances due to the wrong version of Gaaps.
5. Checked and the phone was already rooted in CM10. Installed droid2recovery.apk again. Reboot.
6. Trapped in bootloop.
7. Reboot and enter in system recover.
8. Tried to install CM10 and correct Gaaps. Not possible due to failed to verify whole-file signature.
9. Discover that official recover mode doesn't install unofficial roms.
10. Searched for official roms of Milestone 2 BR. All links are broken.
11. I flashed downgrade_for_bl_3 with RSD Lite. Everything was ok. PASS.
12. Still bootloop. Enter in recover mode. Black screen. Can't see the android icon with exclamation mark.
Is my phone a paper holder now? Please advise.

I'm really without luck today.
I manage to flash a SBF with Android 2.3.6, exactly like the one I had. But then I couldn't root, not with the same method I rooted mine, not with any other method.
Then I downloaded another SBF and used RSD Lite to flash it, and the phone completely died. RSD reported everything OK, PASS, Finished, perfect.
Now nothing happens. The phone is off, black screen. Completely dead. But if I hit Power + Vol - + Camera, the computer recognize. But nothing on the screen. I'm re-flashing the same SBF again.
Why different thing happen when I proceed the same way as I did in the past?
Why can't I just flash a recover boot that accepts direct installation of Cyanogen Mod 10???

douglasrac said:
I'm really without luck today.
I manage to flash a SBF with Android 2.3.6, exactly like the one I had. But then I couldn't root, not with the same method I rooted mine, not with any other method.
Then I downloaded another SBF and used RSD Lite to flash it, and the phone completely died. RSD reported everything OK, PASS, Finished, perfect.
Now nothing happens. The phone is off, black screen. Completely dead. But if I hit Power + Vol - + Camera, the computer recognize. But nothing on the screen. I'm re-flashing the same SBF again.
Why different thing happen when I proceed the same way as I did in the past?
Why can't I just flash a recover boot that accepts direct installation of Cyanogen Mod 10???
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You have to flash that same Android 2.3.6 SBF file, you can't use any more that "another sbf". For rooting that 2.3.6 use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1750277
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1758271 this can help too
After you get CM10 back running, do not use droid2recovery.apk anymore!

Thank you. That really helped.
After you get CM10 back running, do not use droid2recovery.apk anymore!
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Why not?

Odp: [Q] Black screen and bootloop
douglasrac said:
Thank you. That really helped.
Why not?
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Because you already have recovery and you don't need it... doing this you can destroy something (maybe 2-init or 2-boot), and you will need to recover your phone using RSD Lite.
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henediac said:
Because you already have recovery and you don't need it... doing this you can destroy something (maybe 2-init or 2-boot), and you will need to recover your phone using RSD Lite.
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Hi Douglas, did you get the milestone working again? I'm stucked with the same problem, the rsdlite recognize my cellphone I can flash it but the screen is black. Anything works
How do you fix it?

You can still flash other sbfs, but when do turn on, you need to go in recovery mode, than clear cache and data. It will start normally again.
To go to stock recovery hold when turn on "@" or "x", than when show the "android with ! " you hold volume - and foto or volume + and foto or the volume + and -, than you are in recovery.
Sorry about my English
I am showing all the option because I do not remember perfect what to do... But it works
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cant get it to work..anyone got a link to a froyo stock sbf?

@Yostarone
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/umts_milestone2/list.php
i don't know what froyo rom you want, so I put link to whole list. (build number for eu froyo is MILS2_U6_2.4.24).

paulimbr said:
Hi Douglas, did you get the milestone working again? I'm stucked with the same problem, the rsdlite recognize my cellphone I can flash it but the screen is black. Anything works
How do you fix it?
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I didn't get it working. Did you?

douglasrac said:
I didn't get it working. Did you?
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boot into stock recovery and do a full wipe. This will solve your problem.
Press Power and x (on your Hardwarekeyboard) for several seconds. Release the buttons and you will see a yellow triangle with an exclamationmark in it. Now press vol up and down key together. voilla you got it

lulli1 said:
boot into stock recovery and do a full wipe. This will solve your problem.
Press Power and x (on your Hardwarekeyboard) for several seconds. Release the buttons and you will see a yellow triangle with an exclamationmark in it. Now press vol up and down key together. voilla you got it
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I wish it was that simple. After flashing the phone is completely dead. And now I cant even go to bootloader anymore.... :crying:

could your problem be battery related? do you have a chance to try using another battery?

lulli1 said:
could your problem be battery related? do you have a chance to try using another battery?
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Hi,
Sorry for the late reply. I was charging the battery
No, the problem is not the battery. Nothing works anymore. The phone doesn't even turn ON. All Black screen, not even boot loop.
So I get into the bootloader and flash new room. I can see the SN Updated text. But that is it. After it doesn't work.
I flashed DOWNGRADE BL =3 and then I flashed MILA2_U6_3.12.0_SIGNED_US1MILESTONE2PERARB125LA016.0R_GSXMILETPERARLA_P022_A013_M006_HWp2a_WIG142538_Service1FF
Nothing. Black Screen.
Then I flash M2L_U6_4.5.2_51-27_R01_SIGNED_US1MILA2GBPERARB125LA001.0R_STABLE45LAMILETPERLA_P013_A028_M001_HWp2a_Service1FF.
Then I get boot loop.
:S

[Q] Help, I think I have REALLY bricked my defy!

About a month ago I installed a clockwork based recovery app from the market. I tried restoring and this failed leaving the phone unbootable.
Since then I have tried flashing MANY other sbf`s using rsd lite but this has made the situation worse. I think that I even flashed one for the defy+
Now all I get is either a blank screen or a M logo when I switch on.
Pressing power & volume down doesn`t work so I can`t access the stock recovery menu
I can access the bootloader using power & volume up so i can flash more sbf`s but I`ve tried most of them but none will boot.
BTW the phone was running cm7.1 before I had all this trouble and the battery has been fully charged (in another defy)
Is there any way I can clear off all the stuff I`ve been installing and start from fresh? or can anyone tell me how to get the phone to boot?
I have searched for a solution in the forums but most of the replies involve clearing the cache which I cant do as I cant get to the recovery menu.
Any helpful comments will be gratefully received
many thanks
Jeff H

Your flashs complete with Finish/Pass, or just "please manually power up this phone"?
If it's the later, read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38187413&postcount=2
Just stick to the most highest Defy+ sbf build, or just use DFP-231 build to be sure.

intemptesta said:
Your flashs complete with Finish/Pass, or just "please manually power up this phone"?
If it's the later, read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38187413&postcount=2
Just stick to the most highest Defy+ sbf build, or just use DFP-231 build to be sure.
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Thanks for the reply
I flashed the DFP-231 sbf file as you suggested but it wouldn`t boot any further than the M logo.
I did get the "please manually power up this phone" message and followed the procedure from the link you gave
I can`t wipe the as I cannot get to the recovery menu.
Is there any other way to wipe the cache?
JeffH

Nah, no other way than stock recovery for stock rom.
Just make sure your flash finished with Finish/pass, that'll make your stock recovery working again.
Wish you a best luck.

i flashed with this:
DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-231_GR_SIGN_UCADEFYEMARAB1B80AA004.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNGIBRRTCEE_P022_A022_Service1FF.sbf
but still no boot
Is this the correct rom?
cheers
JeffH

I wonder if the following might give someone a clue about whats wrong with my defy
If I flash gingerbread rom either defy or defy+ then rsd completes with PASS, and phone will boot as far as the M logo and I can access the menu with power+volume UP
If I flash below gingerbread then rsd doesnt complete but gives `manually reboot` message. If I then power off and plug in again then rsd completes with PASS but when I reboot there is NO M logo and no menu on power and volume up.
I`m keeping my fingers crossed that I will be able to revive my phone.
JeffH

With DFP-231 rom, how about power+volume down to boot into stock recovery? I think you're just one step away from reviving defy.

intemptesta said:
With DFP-231 rom, how about power+volume down to boot into stock recovery? I think you're just one step away from reviving defy.
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No, Power + volume down doesn`t work, (ie nothing happens). Only power + volume up works.

Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1595013

Vicsa said:
Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1595013
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Thanks, but it didn`t work. Still stuck at M logo. Obviously I couldn`t clear the cache before and between flashing
JeffH

Thank you all for your helpful advice.
I have now sent the phone away for repair.
I spoke to the technician on the phone and she reckons it needs dismantling and a jtag repair (whatever that is).
But beware an app on the market, I think it is called orange backup, as it was after installing this and trying to restore the backup that I screwed up my phone!
JeffH