As even the Z have the 4.4.4 Android,i think Sony is shaming their prev. "Flagship" phone , with all the deffects, gaps,uncetered camera ,etc. Now even models 1 year older then ours has the new update, incl Z1 , z1 compact, and the tablets...i am more and more dissapointed from that phone each day, changed it 2 times cos of deffects..now somebody will say its because of my problems with the deffects i am crying like a MOD EDIT Please do not swear. But guys come on, all the prevoius models got it allready and we even dont hear rumors about it..
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Which features of 4.4 are you desperate for? I'd rather that any updates where done well rather than rushed just so we can have it. As for the defects, gaps don't matter as long as device integrity is maintained I haven't seen anyone suggesting they are affecting this? Uncentered camera again as long as it doesn’t affect function I couldn't care less.
I'll go out on a limb here and say maybe Sony's just waiting for Android 5 to update?
ice_lander said:
As even the Z have the 4.4.4 Android,i think Sony is shaming their prev. "Flagship" phone , with all the deffects, gaps,uncetered camera ,etc. Now even models 1 year older then ours has the new update, incl Z1 , z1 compact, and the tablets...i am more and more dissapointed from that phone each day, changed it 2 times cos of deffects..now somebody will say its because of my problems with the deffects i am crying like a *****. But guys come on, all the prevoius models got it allready and we even dont hear rumors about it..
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They most probably plan to update the z2 to the same 4.4.4 software on the recently unveiled z3 army. That's why it's later than the 4.4.4 software released for older devices. They wanted to showcase it with the z3. Hopefully it'll hit the z2 soon.
That would be bad news for Z1 and z1 compact users because the software on the z3 has improvements for the camera.
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Hope they improve ours also
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zodiac100 said:
They most probably plan to update the z2 to the same 4.4.4 software on the recently unveiled z3 army. That's why it's later than the 4.4.4 software released for older devices. They wanted to showcase it with the z3. Hopefully it'll hit the z2 soon.
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I hope so .... :angel:
I hope that Sony will add hi-res audio playback for z2 in 4.4.4
Be Calm. 4.4.4 might bring some stuffs from the Z3.
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Be Calm. 4.4.4 might bring some stuffs from the Z3.
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Just like it brought from Z2 to Z1
I really doubt that'll happen, at least not officially.
Ported apps, camera apps and, probably, features will be soon here.
As soon as we get system dump XDA community (Xperia community) will start working and porting apps and features.
- Maybe someone already uploaded system dump -
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Just like it brought from Z2 to Z1
I really doubt that'll happen, at least not officially.
Ported apps, camera apps and, probably, features will be soon here.
As soon as we get system dump XDA community (Xperia community) will start working and porting apps and features.
- Maybe someone already uploaded system dump -
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Yep! System Dumps already uploaded and some apps working on the Z2 already... I'm rocking the new home and messaging app (conversations.apk). See attachment below.
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Yep! System Dumps already uploaded and some apps working on the Z2 already... I'm rocking the new home and messaging app (conversations.apk). See attachment below.
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Can we just install the apks from the system dump? Thanks
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No actually, but here is a thread containing a flashable zip - http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/mod-one-xperia-z3-apps-v1-t2867992
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No actually, but here is a thread containing a flashable zip - http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/mod-one-xperia-z3-apps-v1-t2867992
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But is there something for us who have only root and stock rom?
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But is there something for us who have only root and stock rom?
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All I can say is... Sit tight. As long as you don't have an iPhone, you will be fine. This is Android BABY!
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But is there something for us who have only root and stock rom?
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There will be but don't expect to much.
Deodex your firmware and install superuser MOD.
That's two mins task and you won't even notice you deodex it...
What you'll see is great new MODs and APPs.
On older device there were "problems" when you were deodexing firmware.
Simply, without dex files for system to cache process, many devices become slower after deodexing.
All that doesn't apply on devices strong like Z1/Z2/Z3.
So there's no reason for you not to deodex your firmware.
Especially if you are already rooted...
Why to stop there?
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stanley08 said:
All I can say is... Sit tight. As long as you don't have an iPhone, you will be fine. This is Android BABY!
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That's all I can do
funky0308 said:
There will be but don't expect to much.
Deodex your firmware and install superuser MOD.
That's two mins task and you won't even notice you deodex it...
What you'll see is great new MODs and APPs.
On older device there were "problems" when you were deodexing firmware.
Simply, without dex files for system to cache process, many devices become slower after deodexing.
All that doesn't apply on devices strong like Z1/Z2/Z3.
So there's no reason for you not to deodex your firmware.
Especially if you are already rooted...
Why to stop there?
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You're right, there is no, but I was happy with stock rom, only rooted cause its 10 secs job and to install some stuff that needs root,
I'm not very good when it comes to android, especially when it comes to deodexing and odexing. I know what's what, but there's lots of questions, for example which recovery should I use, can I delete recovery later on if I plan on selling it in favor to z3, and I suppose once I get deodex rom, ota updates are out of the question, right?
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That's all I can do
You're right, there is no, but I was happy with stock rom, only rooted cause its 10 secs job and to install some stuff that needs root,
I'm not very good when it comes to android, especially when it comes to deodexing and odexing. I know what's what, but there's lots of questions, for example which recovery should I use, can I delete recovery later on if I plan on selling it in favor to z3, and I suppose once I get deodex rom, ota updates are out of the question, right?
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Once you root device you can forget on OTA (at least on stock, existenz have its own OTA).
It's very simple to deodex ROM.
Just check which firmware are you using.
Download deodex patch for that firmware and flash it from recovery.
Your data will stay intact and nothing will change (of course, don't wipe data from recovery after or before flashing deodex patch, cache and dalvik wipe is what you need to do after flashing.
You can remove recovery, root and restore dex files, that's not problem.
Simply flash stock ftf using flashtool or if you have problems with your device flash stock firmware using PC Companion (repair function) and everything will be "stock"
After that, take your sdCard out of device and delete XZDR folder and files (there's remover, tool from NUT, to remove recovery but you can do that this way as well)
If your carrier will check your device for warranty purpose, they could reject your device because it's rooted as well so deodexing isn't something that could make more problems.
It's up to you but there's only one way to use, system (signed), Z3 apps and/or apps from other devices.
- Superuser MOD on deodexed and rooted device -
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Once you root device you can forget on OTA (at least on stock, existenz have its own OTA).
It's very simple to deodex ROM.
Just check which firmware are you using.
Download deodex patch for that firmware and flash it from recovery.
Your data will stay intact and nothing will change (of course, don't wipe data from recovery after or before flashing deodex patch, cache and dalvik wipe is what you need to do after flashing.
You can remove recovery, root and restore dex files, that's not problem.
Simply flash stock ftf using flashtool or if you have problems with your device flash stock firmware using PC Companion (repair function) and everything will be "stock"
After that, take your sdCard out of device and delete XZDR folder and files (there's remover, tool from NUT, to remove recovery but you can do that this way as well)
If your carrier will check your device for warranty purpose, they could reject your device because it's rooted as well so deodexing isn't something that could make more problems.
It's up to you but there's only one way to use, system (signed), Z3 apps and/or apps from other devices.
- Superuser MOD on deodexed and rooted device -
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Thank you very much mate, I forgot that I can have recovery even if I have locked bootloader, its uncommon for me since I've never have had Sony device before, I guess it's easy later to restore everything later if I need to claim warranty, but just one thing,
few days ago I did software repair via PC companion, after that I had root BUT w/o permission to write, just to read system files, how's that possible?
Thanks again for the big answer,
regards mate!
I'd prefer getting Android 5, rather than getting 4.4.4 update for my Z2. So, if I'm waiting to get Android 5, it's all good.
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Thank you very much mate, I forgot that I can have recovery even if I have locked bootloader, its uncommon for me since I've never have had Sony device before, I guess it's easy later to restore everything later if I need to claim warranty, but just one thing,
few days ago I did software repair via PC companion, after that I had root BUT w/o permission to write, just to read system files, how's that possible?
Thanks again for the big answer,
regards mate!
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Hmm...that shouldn't be the case after you root device.
Did you updated supersu binaries?
Download this and flash through recovery
https://app.box.com/s/knwvu1jfzs1vec9n6vr0
That will update supersu binaries.
Then try...
Sure, no problem, I'm glad if I helped..
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I've been using this phone for a little over a week now (T-Mobile US version) and I don't feel an immediate need to root and throw a custom Rom on this bad boy.
When first got my GS3 I rooted and put CM on it within the first hour. Is anyone in a similar position where you don't feel nagging need to root?
Not saying I won't root or Rom this phone but so far I'm cool with the out of box experience
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I've had the Z for about 4 months now and haven't had much of a desire to root it. The only real reason would be to mod the softkeys or something. The phone does everything I really need it to do; I can't find a problem that rooting would fix at the moment. I haven't had much of a desire to root my last two phones actually (Xperia Z, Razr Maxx), don't know if I'm just getting lazy or the phones are just more functional these days without root.
:good:
jesusprice said:
I've been using this phone for a little over a week now (T-Mobile US version) and I don't feel an immediate need to root and throw a custom Rom on this bad boy.
When first got my GS3 I rooted and put CM on it within the first hour. Is anyone in a similar position where you don't feel nagging need to root?
Not saying I won't root or Rom this phone but so far I'm cool with the out of box experience
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I rooted my XZ as soon as I got it, it's up to you though. You can always unroot it, I think...
I've been very happy with the original rom because I prefer it to other oem roms. I like the cleanliness and the simplicity. Plus, I don't want to root because it'll affect specialized features unique to Sony such as the Mobile Bravia engine.
Rooting and unlocking BL is not the same.
Root does not affect the bravia engine BL unlocking does...
With root you can get special features like call blocker, LBE Security master Bloat remover and you can unroot if have a problem
BL unlock yes you could lock it back and you can have bravia working again, BUT YOU CANNOT REMOVE YOUR IMEI FROM SONY'S OUT OF WARRANTY LIST.
I rooted my phone for CWM, Titanium backup and greenify and more importantly, the loud sound mod.
Rooting is so easy and it doesn't void the warranty so I see no point in not doing it lol
TamSE3P said:
I've been very happy with the original rom because I prefer it to other oem roms. I like the cleanliness and the simplicity. Plus, I don't want to root because it'll affect specialized features unique to Sony such as the Mobile Bravia engine.
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Same here I'm quite satisfied with the stock rom everything is great & I don't want to root
rooting was the first thing I did, how else can I restore my titanium backup from my previous phone lol.couldn't imagine not having a rooted phone, the stock rom is fine though and I haven't messed with that.
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Going to root after my warranty gets over
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Any one have a link to the root method for the 6606 t-mobile Z and the cwm?
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I would've rooted because I wanted to maybe try Cyanogenmod and remove bloatware but I wasn't sure about it voiding warranty and stuff, when I asked people only said if you have to ask that you don't need to root. Looks like I can, so I'll try DooMLords easy root kit.
@Damented i just used this exploit from Doomlords and it works http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2327472. phone is rooted! yaaay! i installed NoBloat from the appstore and deleted the carrieriQ system app and it rebooted the phone automatically as soon as it was deleted.. hmm. i wonder if theres a way to make sure its not lurking inside the phone still
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I would've rooted because I wanted to maybe try Cyanogenmod and remove bloatware but I wasn't sure about it voiding warranty and stuff, when I asked people only said if you have to ask that you don't need to root. Looks like I can, so I'll try DooMLords easy root kit.
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Cyanogenmod requires a custom kernel, and thus, requires your bootloader to be unlocked.
Keep in mind that root does not equal bootloader unlocked. If your device is bought from a carrier (T Mobile, for example) you won't be able to install CM or its derivatives due to the lack of ability to unlock the bootloader.
I had everything installed on my PC to root & BLU 4 weeks before i got my fone
You can be happy with stock sony rom and feels the need to root, root access has nothing to do with ROM !
You won't void your warranty and you won't lost NOTHING!
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flipmyx said:
@Damented i just used this exploit from Doomlords and it works http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2327472. phone is rooted! yaaay! i installed NoBloat from the appstore and deleted the carrieriQ system app and it rebooted the phone automatically as soon as it was deleted.. hmm. i wonder if theres a way to make sure its not lurking inside the phone still
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you need the definitive mount reboot fix by NUT, otherwise the XZ will reboot as soon as you make an operation in /system.
You had carrieriQ in stock rom ?
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iDroid8 said:
when I asked people only said if you have to ask that you don't need to root
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read this, like the title says, all info for xperia's are there : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2153167
pjgowtham said:
Going to root after my warranty gets over
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Rooting doesn't void your warranty but unlocking the bootloader does :good:
I'm not rooting my phone - I don't really need to do that, and there are some important apps like Barclays Mobile that refuse to work on rooted phones. So count me as one.
I just got black one yesterday and tried root today with Bin4ry v31 but it seems to be stuck at white display test and running batch file at
"/data/local/tmp/onload.sh ..."
I think t-mobile xperia z need something new to be rooted.
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Any one have a link to the root method for the 6606 t-mobile Z and the cwm?
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Don't root. The modded firmwares are not worth the effort, I tried most of them. CM 10.1 is nice, as long as you don't need the phone's camera - no HDR
You can simply disable not wanted apps with a stock phone just fine. Overclocking is also useless, the Z throttles down way too quick
Sorry thought you meant bootloader unlocking!
I held out until yesterday, as I've not rooted a phone before,complete noob of the highest order, now I'm rooted with dual recovery running monxrom and pureinfinity sound mod, changed all my icons in nav bar and bottom bar via monx mods, may change fonts if I find one I like.
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Awesome, I get my XZ1 Tomorrow, so its good to be able to get 4.3 straight away
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Does this been I can update to 290 now and it will keep my root?
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Does this been I can update to 290 now and it will keep my root?
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No.
Just got the notification myself on UK rom
So we cannot update from 4.2.2 and keep partial root on locked bootloader?
If not I'll still hold off till root has hopefully been fixed
Mind you I have custom recovery so wont ota anyways will it?
Thanks
believe me the 4.3 is worth loosing ur root .... the Wifi Signal Is amazing it matches my Series5 Samsung Laptop !
Thanks I have been on 4.3 a few week back but with all the brickin going around I come off it
Still nice to have root though as most of the decent apps need root access
Can share the ftf files?
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Thanks I have been on 4.3 a few week back but with all the brickin going around I come off it
Still nice to have root though as most of the decent apps need root access
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Bricking?!
What the hell are you talking about.
Flash normal version, official and you'll have one of the best phone available at the moment.
There's no problem at all...
Don't mess with something you don't understand.
For now there's no 100% safe way for rooting (locked BL) so don't do that.
But to said something like that is just ridiculous and, sorry but, stupid.
And all decent apps doesn't need root to work properly...
I know what I'm talking about and I can confirm that you can use your device without any problems without rooting it.
It would be better if we have good way for root but it's not the end of the world if we are, at the moment, without it.
Stop flooding threads with a nonsense.
You want to use older firmware?
Cool, why not.
But to claim new firmware isn't good and there's "all that bricking..." is just stupid.
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@carbon21
Mate, have you tried to update via OTA?
on some firmwares there's a way to update through OTA.
Please, if you can - try...
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Is this a load of nonsense http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574764
That's just one thread of many and it's even proven to of happened to someone just updating via Sony update centre without been rooted of unlocked bootloader
Sorry if my question come across as "stupid" but there are many threads of bricked devices all leading to updating to 290 which is enough to make anyone wounder if it's a safe build
And the rooting thing yes I know we will eventually have it the guys on xda are the best and always prevail :good: but I disagree as far as all apps work without root there a tons of apps which almost everyone use that needs root access
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Is this a load of nonsense http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574764
That's just one thread of many and it's even proven to of happened to someone just updating via Sony update centre without been rooted of unlocked bootloader
Sorry if my question come across as "stupid" but there are many threads of bricked devices all leading to updating to 290 which is enough to make anyone wounder if it's a safe build
And the rooting thing yes I know we will eventually have it the guys on xda are the best and always prevail :good: but I disagree as far as all apps work without root there a tons of apps which almost everyone use that needs root access
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very sensible mate, ive stayed on 4.2.2 as well as i need root for apps that I MUST have. Even if root is possible a few people have bricked their phones and I for one am not prepared to take a 600 pounds risk ATM as i bought this phone brand new.
brockyneo said:
Is this a load of nonsense http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574764
That's just one thread of many and it's even proven to of happened to someone just updating via Sony update centre without been rooted of unlocked bootloader
Sorry if my question come across as "stupid" but there are many threads of bricked devices all leading to updating to 290 which is enough to make anyone wounder if it's a safe build
And the rooting thing yes I know we will eventually have it the guys on xda are the best and always prevail :good: but I disagree as far as all apps work without root there a tons of apps which almost everyone use that needs root access
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Then these threads are people who are not being 100% honest. There's no way you will "brick" your Z1 with an official SEUS or PC Companion Update with a locked, unrooted phone. Zero chance. Unless the phone happens to be faulty.
It's just scaremongering. Plus a good phone, does not need root in my book.
That's just stupid, a good phone will be even better with root... Rooting is to make the software better, or to make it work better for you, nothing to do with the phone itself... And what if I want to backup all my apps with titanium? If I'm not rooted, it doesn't matter how good the phone is, i wouldnt be able to do it.
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How does rooting make software better?
It's down to individual choice, some people like to change things only root will allow but others don't.
Scaremongering by claiming widespread bricking of phones is not helpful. Some people have hit problems when experimenting with rooting methods. It's par for the course, most of these so called bricking incidents have been recovered eventually. A truly bricked phone is a rare incident.
Warning people off upgrading is OTT. A safe root method will be found soon.
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Does this 290 unbranded uk include 20 MP in Superior Auto or 8 MP?
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rooting makes some apps not work. I'd rather have root but don't need it and z1 is good without it, but if you need it just stick to older firmware. this thread is going off topic
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rooting
3 of the major advantages of rooting are (at least in my opinion) ...
1. Block ads in apps
2. Remove bloatware and tweak ROM for better performance
3. Move apps to SD
Regards
Hi,
Some of you may recognise my name from around the forums, especially if you have had an Xperia device before. I started my first android developments on the Xperia Play and then continued onto the Xperia U. I then lost mass interest in development due to joining college and being overloaded with work due to a computing course. I was no longer able to contribute to any developments.
Now, I am in the second year of college and have dropped a subject I am finding myself with more free time so I have decided to start developing again, only this time I have an Xperia SP.
There's only one catch, the device I have is network locked to O2 and therefore I cannot unlock my boot loader, so most if not all of my work will be for those with a locked bootloader. I am mostly interested in creating custom ROMs based on stock and also creating my own applications and embedding them into the stock ROM.
And the flashy bar at the bottom, yeah I have ideas for that.
Developments for Xperia SP:
illumination app
~Keiran
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Thank you!
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Thank you!
Thank you guy!
You have locked bootloader and you don't use fastboot
You should sell branded phone and buy no-branded
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Thank you guy!
You have locked bootloader and you don't use fastboot
You should sell branded phone and buy no-branded
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I can't, it just means that I will only be able to developed for locked bootloader which is no problem really. All it means is that I cannot change the kernel image, using scripts I can mess about with the ramdisk though and may be able to boot CM on a locked boot loader if the stock kernel allows it.
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Glad to see you back in the game mate ! Too bad that you can't unlock your bootloader. Although I know that would not be a problem for you.
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Hi @KeiranFTW welcome to Xperia SP development!
I hope we can work together on a project I want to try when we get the Android 4.3 update, I'm not sure if it will be successful and I'm not sure if anyone else tried this on other devices, but I want to try.
Basically I want to build Android 4.3 that works with the stock Sony 4.3 bootloader. I already have my fork of CodeAurora up and running here, I call it recaf, it will 'simply' be a matter of satisfying the extra dependencies and other Sony changes.
Come chat on freenode IRC, I'm in #freexperia, or on my own at #recaf. (If I don't reply immediately it mean's I'm afk, but my irc bouncer keeps me logged in.)
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Hi @KeiranFTW welcome to Xperia SP development!
I hope we can work together on a project I want to try when we get the Android 4.3 update, I'm not sure if it will be successful and I'm not sure if anyone else tried this on other devices, but I want to try.
Basically I want to build Android 4.3 that works with the stock Sony 4.3 bootloader. I already have my fork of CodeAurora up and running here, I call it recaf, it will 'simply' be a matter of satisfying the extra dependencies and other Sony changes.
Come chat on freenode IRC, I'm in #freexperia, or on my own at #recaf. (If I don't reply immediately it mean's I'm afk, but my irc bouncer keeps me logged in.)
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I'm sure it is very possible, as there is a way that could work really, I could probably set it up as a dual boot. You would need the AOSP ramdisk in tar format somewhere on your phone and at boot time if you wish to boot AOSP then it would delete everything at / and extract that ramdisk to / and then continue boot process with that ramdisk.. as long as stock kernel is compatible.
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Welcome in SP section
Happy to see more real dev here
Well, maybe you could port kexec to our locked SP's? The main part of the module and binary is done, there is only one thing left - implementing proper hardboot and finally porting to our phones. I think some Xperia SP devs might help you. There's a thread in Z1 forums where delewer tries to get last parts of the job done. If you decide to start working on it, I want to be a alpha or beta tester
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2495152
Welcome mate, glad you are here can't wait to see your work I also had an xperia play and I'm pretty sure I had a few of your roms and mods installed at some point.
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I have a few projects in mind at the moment:
1. Getting the 4.3 leak to boot on locked bootloader
2. When 4.3 is released get AOSP 4.3 to run also on locked boot loader - I will be working with @adfad666 on this - most priority
3. Maybe a stock based custom ROM - least priority.
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Maybe after booting AOSP 4.3 on locked BL you could try booting 4.4? Because it was possible in Xperia X8 "age of glory"(some devs booted 2.2 on 2.1 kernel if I'm not mistaken).
MrSteve555 said:
Maybe after booting AOSP 4.3 on locked BL you could try booting 4.4? Because it was possible in Xperia X8 "age of glory"(some devs booted 2.2 on 2.1 kernel if I'm not mistaken).
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We could try.
The way I'm going to do it is hijack pre_hw_config.sh and then launch a script from there to determine whether to extract recovery ramdisk or AOSP ramdisk, then this will be extracted to /, and then everything will be unmounted and init will be started again to restart the boot process.
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I think I'll try to boot 4.3 today, with the method described in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2593806
I'll post my results later.
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We could try.
The way I'm going to do it is hijack pre_hw_config.sh and then launch a script from there to determine whether to extract recovery ramdisk or AOSP ramdisk, then this will be extracted to /, and then everything will be unmounted and init will be started again to restart the boot process.
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Unfortunately pre_hw_config.sh doesn't exist in the 4.3 leak, so assuming that doesn't change when we receive the official update, we won't be able to use that.
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Unfortunately pre_hw_config.sh doesn't exist in the 4.3 leak, so assuming that doesn't change when we receive the official update, we won't be able to use that.
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then /system/bin/charger
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Well, pre_hw_config.sh doesn't exist even in stock 4.1.2. I think we should try with chargemon, not charger(because it's executed earlier). I tried booting DooMLord's DoomKernel ramdisk on stock kernel. Absolutely no luck. I don't even know what's wrong - after loading ramdisk, kernel panic occurs. Maybe someone more clever will figure it out.:silly:
I think I'm nearly there at hijacking the boot process to inject new ramdisk, I just have a little test that I will have to do later as I need to go out now.
What I'm going to do is use the same ramdisk as that's in the kernel but inject it again after removing anything, this way I don't need to change my ROM and I know that I can inject a new ramdisk. I'll upload my work to github later too so people can contribute
~Keiran
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Okay, so I've been successful in booting a custom RAMdisk, only problem I am experiencing is that the data partition is not being remounted when the new ramdisk is loaded, no idea why though.
Okay, done and fixed, sources are at https://github.com/keiranFTW/hijack-ramdisk-huashan
Get ready for exciting things coming now
KeiranFTW said:
Okay, so I've been successful in booting a custom RAMdisk, only problem I am experiencing is that the data partition is not being remounted when the new ramdisk is loaded, no idea why though.
Okay, done and fixed, sources are at https://github.com/keiranFTW/hijack-ramdisk-huashan
Get ready for exciting things coming now
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I tried your method, but it has one bug - it doesn't symlink /data/media to /storage/sdcard0, so the data from internal memory isn't accesible through that path. Still amazing work, but I suggest you to change the format of ramdisk read by the script to .cpio, because it's easier to get from kernels. :good:
I managed to successfully root my Xperia M2 with KitKat 4.4.4 without unlocking the bootloader. Since the procedure is quite generic (and straightforward) I thought it would be useful for people with other Xperia devices if I post it here. Please take it as a guideline, since it may vary slightly between different Xperia devices. I suspect it will work also for the phones that will upgrade to Lollipop (as long as they had a Jelly Bean ROM available), maybe changing the rooting binaries in the rootkitXperia tool.
One can find the full procedure with all steps detailed and links to the SW needed in my original thread for the Xperia M2:
[Q&A][Root]Rooting with Locked Bootloader - NO OTA Method
In order to be able to apply this method the Xperia device must have an older ROM available, vulnerable to the "Towelroot" exploit .
Without it as far as I am aware no rooting is possible in a Kitkat 4.4.4 device with the locked bootloader.
GENERAL GUIDELINES:
Be sure to have the full FTF for the stock ROM you are currently running
Flash with Flashtool only the kernel from a Jelly Bean FTF for your phone unchecking the wipe checkboxes
Reboot the phone:
The phone should bootloop, but it doesn't matter. The Linux kernel and adb are alive and thus the "Towelroot" vulnerability is exploitable by rootkitXperia
Run rootkitXperia. After the rooting it should get stuck when trying to reboot the phone(*). Interrupt it with CTRL-C
Flash back the kernel for the ROM in your phone
Reboot the phone
Manually run the command to have the RIC permanently disabled:
Code:
adb shell "su -c /data/local/tmp/install_tool.sh"
Reboot and enjoy your rooted phone!
(*) In some phones (Xperia Z?) rootkitXperia may not get stuck. If the phone reboots the rooting should be complete. Just flash back your original kernel and it should be done (untested).
Please note that this guideline covers some already known rooting methods. The difference is that it also covers the cases when the ROM bootloops and/or rootkitXperia gets stuck at the reboot, making it quite generic for all Xperia devices. It doesn't pretend to be a new guide for all Xperia, just a general one.
Xperia Phones confirmed working:
if you manage to root the phone using the kernel of a similar Xperia (like in the case of the Xperia M2 Aqua below) please report the phone name/model of your phone and of the phone you used the kernel from.
Xperia M2 D2303
Xperia M2 Aqua D2403 - With the M2 D2303 kernel
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That's the well known method we are using since Xperia U.
As long as you have older fw (JB) you'll be able to root your device.
But...
I wouldn't bet on rooting L with this method.
Lollipop is new, fresh written firmware with a new kernel.
Code was updated on JB and new features were added when Google built KK...
L is something totally different...but we'll see soon..
Miche1asso said:
I managed to successfully..
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Any help for Xperia E3 with lock bootloader..
funky0308 said:
That's the well known method we are using since Xperia U.
As long as you have older fw (JB) you'll be able to root your device.
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I don't know if it was used already on Xperia U. I checked all around and I couldn't find this particular solution where the rooting is done with the hone bootlooping and one of rootkitXperia scripts must be run manually after restoring the KK kernel.
Particularly on Xperia M2 the suggested solution was to downgrade both kernel and system, root it and then upgrade via OTA. Which was something I didn't fancy at all. Still now I see people trying to apply rootkitXperia on any Xperia KK 4.4.4 (which will never work, as I discovered myself). So I made it available in the general section as well for people with less popular Xperias who are banging their heads like I did for a couple of weeks (honest):
But sure, the downgrade is a requirement. At the moment 4.4.4 seems unbreakable.
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But...
I wouldn't bet on rooting L with this method.
Lollipop is new, fresh written firmware with a new kernel.
Code was updated on JB and new features were added when Google built KK...
L is something totally different...but we'll see soon..
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It's still Linux. With the bleeding SELinux fully enabled, though. It may take some tampering, but I suspect it will be a matter of replacing/adding the rooting binaries in rootkitXperia. Chainfire already has them available I understood. If it will be possible to inject them flashing the JB kernel half of the job has done. Still, I'll rephrase it in my first post, it could be be too optimistic.
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Any help for Xperia E3 with lock bootloader..
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Since it came with 4.4.4 and the HW is similar to the one of the M2 (same CPU at least) you may try this method flashing the M2 kernel attached in my first thread. In case it goes all wrong you should be able to flash back the original kernel. At least so I've read people "unbricked" their phones after fashing a wrong kernel.
But I am not sure about it. I take no responsibility. Do it at your own risk
I thought that ADB wouldn't work if the phone didn't boot completely or at least it didn't go past booting the kernel. That's quite a suprise for me and I'll surely test it on the next xperia I'd have to root. You just made my concerns about rooting 5.0 Sony firmwares on LB gone, thanks a ton mate!
BTW. That's literally the fastest written news I ever seen on the xda portal, like seriously, it was posted the very same day, just a few minutes ago.
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I thought that ADB wouldn't work if the phone didn't boot completely or at least it didn't go past booting the kernel. That's quite a suprise for me and I'll surely test it on the next xperia I'd have to root. You just made my concerns about rooting 5.0 Sony firmwares on LB gone, thanks a ton mate!
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You're very welcome!
BTW. That's literally the fastest written news I ever seen on the xda portal, like seriously, it was posted the very same day, just a few minutes ago.
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Why, did I make the portal? Oh, i see it now. In the bottom right section. That's cool! Now I am happy. Thanks.
Does this mean I can root my Xperia Z3 d6616 on 4.4.4? You may have just won all the internets.
Known method and it works. I used it on the Xperia NovaThor line
Also you can add this. If your phone is working weird (buggy or sudden battery drops) just wipe the cache. It is known problem when flashing older version of android (ROM/kernel) and then flashing back the new one. In this case you are doing exactly that. Right now there are no recoveries for locked bootloader but you can use the ADB command or some terminal application on your android.
Option 1. Using the ADB (easiest):
Code:
adb shell
su
cd /data/dalvik-cache
rm *
exit
adb reboot
Option 2. Using terminal
Code:
su
cd /data/dalvik-cache
rm *
exit
After that reboot your device. It will take longer than normal but it's ok
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HORiZUN said:
Does this mean I can root my Xperia Z3 d6616 on 4.4.4? You may have just won all the internets.
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No because Z3 doesn't have a jellybean ROM/kernel so you can't use this on your device
Similar method when rooting Xperia Tablet Z and a bit similar when rooting my Xperia neo V before.. I don't encountered boot loop....
DavidMKD said:
Known method and it works. I used it on the Xperia NovaThor line
Also you can add this. If your phone is working weird (buggy or sudden battery drops) just wipe the cache. It is known problem when flashing older version of android (ROM/kernel) and then flashing back the new one. In this case you are doing exactly that.
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I think the dalvik caches get modified when a new /system (with a different version of the apps in /system/app) gets installed.. Just changing the kernel shouldn't really affect the dalvik caches.
Right now there are no recoveries for locked bootloader but you can use the ADB command or some terminal application on your android.
Option 1. Using the ADB (easiest):
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Option 2. Using terminal
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After that reboot your device. It will take longer than normal but it's ok
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or you can just type from the terminal:
Code:
adb shell su -c "rm -r /data/dalvik-cache; reboot"
Otherwise what I usually do is to remove the /data/dalvik-cache folder from a root file manager. /data/dalvik.-cache gets re-created at boot time. Not that I've ever really seen any benefit on doing that. Especially in Kitkat any time the system apps get modified Android should rebuild all of them at boot time. But yeah, one never knows. Hopefully ART in Lollipop will end this crap.
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Similar method when rooting Xperia Tablet Z and a bit similar when rooting my Xperia neo V before.. I don't encountered boot loop....
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Yeah, I know. The guide is more specific for when the ROM bootloops and/or rootkitXperia gets stuck at the reboot, like it happens in the Xperia M2. In that case people where getting stuck, or at least I couldn't find any guide telling what to do. I'll specify it in the main post.
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Sorry to ask in here but its impossible to get a reply in the Z2 Tablet forum. Any idea where I can download a Jellybean FTF for my device and then the 4.4.4 FTF its running atm?
Would be greatly appreciated!
Dowloading the FTF from: http://xperiafirmware.com/8-firmware/50-sony-xperia-z2-tablet-wi-fi-sgp511, anyone know if SGP511 is compatible with SGP512 (I know they're both WiFi international versions)
I found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2768951 But its only a 7mb download? Is the system.img the kernal?
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Sorry to ask in here but its impossible to get a reply in the Z2 Tablet forum. Any idea where I can download a Jellybean FTF for my device and then the 4.4.4 FTF its running atm?
Would be greatly appreciated!
Dowloading the FTF from: http://xperiafirmware.com/8-firmware/50-sony-xperia-z2-tablet-wi-fi-sgp511, anyone know if SGP511 is compatible with SGP512 (I know they're both WiFi international versions)
I found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2768951 But its only a 7mb download? Is the system.img the kernal?
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First of all, use XperiFirm (google it) and download the program. Find your device and download the necessary firmwares. The second link you posted is just a kernel
What about phones without JB roms released, ex: Xperia C3? It was released on KK 4.4.1 and I think that no kernels are available for this phone. I'm asking 'cause I want to root my phone but is almost impossible using all known methods .
Dominator_666 said:
What about phones without JB roms released, ex: Xperia C3? It was released on KK 4.4.1 and I think that no kernels are available for this phone. I'm asking 'cause I want to root my phone but is almost impossible using all known methods .
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Ok, this is the situation: if the phone has a "brother" with the same identical SoC which came with a JB ROM flashing the kernel (and only the kernel) from the JB FTF of that ROM may do the job. It officially worked on the Xperia M2 Aqua D2403 using the D2303 kernel. As long as the phone manages to boot the kernel and abd is alive (with all relevant Unix commands) the rooting should be possible (and the phone won't be bricked at all. It just has the kernel not matching the modules, libraries and else in the ROM).
This may apply for example to the Sony Z3 using the Z2 JB kernel for the rooting (although the SoC in this case are slightly different). Or the Xperia E3 using the M2 kernel. But no one tested these scenarios yet, so I take no responsibility if anything goes wrong. It is at your own risk.
Still, my experience with the Samsung has been that after flashing the wrong kernel was always possible to recover the phone flashing back the official ROM (with Odin in that case). I have no experience of "soft bricked" phones with the Xperia, so I can't bring my personal experience on this.
Miche1asso said:
Ok, this is the situation: if the phone has a "brother" with the same identical SoC which came with a JB ROM flashing the kernel (and only the kernel) from the JB FTF of that ROM may do the job. It officially worked on the Xperia M2 Aqua D2403 using the D2303 kernel. As long as the phone manages to boot the kernel and abd is alive (with all relevant Unix commands) the rooting should be possible (and the phone won't be bricked at all. It just has the kernel not matching the modules, libraries and else in the ROM).
This may apply for example to the Sony Z3 using the Z2 JB kernel for the rooting (although the SoC in this case are slightly different). Or the Xperia E3 using the M2 kernel. But no one tested these scenarios yet, so I take no responsibility if anything goes wrong. It is at your own risk.
Still, my experience with the Samsung has been that after flashing the wrong kernel was always possible to recover the phone flashing back the official ROM (with Odin in that case). I have no experience of "soft bricked" phones with the Xperia, so I can't bring my personal experience on this.
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Anyone willing to try this? Maybe we can set up a donation thread for someone to try it?
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What about phones without JB roms released, ex: Xperia C3? It was released on KK 4.4.1 and I think that no kernels are available for this phone. I'm asking 'cause I want to root my phone but is almost impossible using all known methods .
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It's not about Jelly Bean firmware availability for the device. Towel root even works directly with KitKat, provided the kernel build date should be before 3rd June, 2014.
Mmm i tried many times with towelroot but isn't working. However as you said is better to have a non rooted device than a hard bricked one hahaha
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Don't ever flash wrong kernels which isn't meant for your device. It might hard brick. 'No root' is better than 'hard brick'ed device.
Hi guys, finally I've found a way to get the latest update 23.0.1.E.0.208 (4.4.4) without losing root on this tablet.
The method is the same as the method here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/general/4-4-4-creating-rooted-update-package-t2933155), but we will use the files for Xperia Z2 Tablet Verizon instead of files for Xperia Z2.
First, you MUST BE on an older version (17.1.D.0.437) with root and XZDualRecovery
You need these files:
1. New 23.0.1.E.0.208 update FTF file (you can use XperiFirm to get it)
2. PRFCreator v0.5.zip (I tried the later version v0.8 but it didn't work, so better to use v0.5)
3. Latest stable SuperSU update package
4. XZDualRecovery flashable patched version (in the attachment) (note that the original version from [NUT] will not allow you to mount system rw)
Then follows step 4 to 11 in the instructions in the above thread for Xperia Z2 and replace all the files for Xperia Z2 with the files you've just got.
Good luck!
thanks for this, will try it this week...
noticed any issues with this update on the verizon tab?
Is it possible to flash back to 4.4.2, to root? Sadly, mine came with the newest update.
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https://mega.co.nz/#!VZYHRAKT!wky8U_6G9aB4XctdfKMIaJQZtdlnWTtNv0pNLlgh0AM here is the ftf file for the older version.
Worked like a charm! Thank you for posting this.
How come this cannot be posted as a flashable zip? Why do we need to create our own file? Just curious.
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How come this cannot be posted as a flashable zip? Why do we need to create our own file? Just curious.
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My internet connection sucks. It takes long to upload large files.
Trying to do this, however it seems we need a custom recovery already installed. Trying to install the XZDualRecovery from the installer file I downloaded but it just hangs at libdvm opened. Any other way to install a custom recovery so I can follow the rest of the guide to get my replacement tab rooted?
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Trying to do this, however it seems we need a custom recovery already installed. Trying to install the XZDualRecovery from the installer file I downloaded but it just hangs at libdvm opened. Any other way to install a custom recovery so I can follow the rest of the guide to get my replacement tab rooted?
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Sounds to me like you need to flash the old ftf first, then root and then install the custom recovery. Root only works on the older firmware linked above.
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Thanks, I thought you had to have a recovery already installed for that. Downloaded everything I need plus old FTF file, can't seem to get it to work right. Think I am having driver problems even tho it works fine in fastboot mode through ADB. Can't get Sony PC companion to work either even tho I've downloaded pretty much every driver I can find for it. I'm on Windows 8.1
I never managed to get it to work on windows 8.1 by had a windows 7 laptop laying around and that worked fine. I would recommend finding a non 8.1 computer. Good luck.
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Got it working. I didn't know I had to have the unknown sources checked. Also I didn't realize I was plugged into a 3.0 port in the back of my PC, so that didn't help.
Now that I'm on the old version and rooted, I saw some people had success with updating to the newest update for VZW and keeping root. Can anyone else confirm this? I have TWRP and everything on my HTC, but my tablet I would rather not mess with it as much. The steps in this guide are pretty involved.
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Got it working. I didn't know I had to have the unknown sources checked. Also I didn't realize I was plugged into a 3.0 port in the back of my PC, so that didn't help.
Now that I'm on the old version and rooted, I saw some people had success with updating to the newest update for VZW and keeping root. Can anyone else confirm this? I have TWRP and everything on my HTC, but my tablet I would rather not mess with it as much. The steps in this guide are pretty involved.
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I am on the newest firmware and rooted, so I can confirm that it works.
It's not as bad as it seems. Just follow the steps and you will be a better human for it! Happy hacking and debloating.
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Yup just did this, everything is working great, thanks!
My camera doesn't work after updating. Every time I hit the capture button it just freezes. I'd like to just wipe and do a clean install. Can I just do it in TRWP? Will I lose root?
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My camera doesn't work after updating. Every time I hit the capture button it just freezes. I'd like to just wipe and do a clean install. Can I just do it in TRWP? Will I lose root?
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Should be fine, I wiped mine after the whole process and had no problems at all.
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There was a leaked Lollipop update I saw today on XperiaBlog. Could this method be used to update?
Update: worked like a charm. Running lollipop with root and nuts dualboot
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https://mega.co.nz/#!VZYHRAKT!wky8U_6G9aB4XctdfKMIaJQZtdlnWTtNv0pNLlgh0AM here is the ftf file for the older version.
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Is it possible to have this uploaded again since it's no longer available. ftf file for 17.1.D.0.437
Also PRFCreator v0.5.zip since the earliest one available is v0.7.
Thanks!
Anybody...
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Anybody...
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How about this one:
https://mega.nz/#!lAQFQZ7R!wky8U_6G9aB4XctdfKMIaJQZtdlnWTtNv0pNLlgh0AM
Why PRFCreator v0,5?
freealta said:
Is it possible to have this uploaded again since it's no longer available. ftf file for 17.1.D.0.437
Also PRFCreator v0.5.zip since the earliest one available is v0.7.
Thanks!
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