How many ppl are not going to Root - Xperia Z General

I've been using this phone for a little over a week now (T-Mobile US version) and I don't feel an immediate need to root and throw a custom Rom on this bad boy.
When first got my GS3 I rooted and put CM on it within the first hour. Is anyone in a similar position where you don't feel nagging need to root?
Not saying I won't root or Rom this phone but so far I'm cool with the out of box experience
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I've had the Z for about 4 months now and haven't had much of a desire to root it. The only real reason would be to mod the softkeys or something. The phone does everything I really need it to do; I can't find a problem that rooting would fix at the moment. I haven't had much of a desire to root my last two phones actually (Xperia Z, Razr Maxx), don't know if I'm just getting lazy or the phones are just more functional these days without root.
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jesusprice said:
I've been using this phone for a little over a week now (T-Mobile US version) and I don't feel an immediate need to root and throw a custom Rom on this bad boy.
When first got my GS3 I rooted and put CM on it within the first hour. Is anyone in a similar position where you don't feel nagging need to root?
Not saying I won't root or Rom this phone but so far I'm cool with the out of box experience
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I rooted my XZ as soon as I got it, it's up to you though. You can always unroot it, I think...

I've been very happy with the original rom because I prefer it to other oem roms. I like the cleanliness and the simplicity. Plus, I don't want to root because it'll affect specialized features unique to Sony such as the Mobile Bravia engine.

Rooting and unlocking BL is not the same.
Root does not affect the bravia engine BL unlocking does...
With root you can get special features like call blocker, LBE Security master Bloat remover and you can unroot if have a problem
BL unlock yes you could lock it back and you can have bravia working again, BUT YOU CANNOT REMOVE YOUR IMEI FROM SONY'S OUT OF WARRANTY LIST.

I rooted my phone for CWM, Titanium backup and greenify and more importantly, the loud sound mod.
Rooting is so easy and it doesn't void the warranty so I see no point in not doing it lol

TamSE3P said:
I've been very happy with the original rom because I prefer it to other oem roms. I like the cleanliness and the simplicity. Plus, I don't want to root because it'll affect specialized features unique to Sony such as the Mobile Bravia engine.
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Same here I'm quite satisfied with the stock rom everything is great & I don't want to root

rooting was the first thing I did, how else can I restore my titanium backup from my previous phone lol.couldn't imagine not having a rooted phone, the stock rom is fine though and I haven't messed with that.
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Going to root after my warranty gets over
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Any one have a link to the root method for the 6606 t-mobile Z and the cwm?
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I would've rooted because I wanted to maybe try Cyanogenmod and remove bloatware but I wasn't sure about it voiding warranty and stuff, when I asked people only said if you have to ask that you don't need to root. Looks like I can, so I'll try DooMLords easy root kit.

@Damented i just used this exploit from Doomlords and it works http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2327472. phone is rooted! yaaay! i installed NoBloat from the appstore and deleted the carrieriQ system app and it rebooted the phone automatically as soon as it was deleted.. hmm. i wonder if theres a way to make sure its not lurking inside the phone still

iDroid8 said:
I would've rooted because I wanted to maybe try Cyanogenmod and remove bloatware but I wasn't sure about it voiding warranty and stuff, when I asked people only said if you have to ask that you don't need to root. Looks like I can, so I'll try DooMLords easy root kit.
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Cyanogenmod requires a custom kernel, and thus, requires your bootloader to be unlocked.
Keep in mind that root does not equal bootloader unlocked. If your device is bought from a carrier (T Mobile, for example) you won't be able to install CM or its derivatives due to the lack of ability to unlock the bootloader.

I had everything installed on my PC to root & BLU 4 weeks before i got my fone

You can be happy with stock sony rom and feels the need to root, root access has nothing to do with ROM !
You won't void your warranty and you won't lost NOTHING!
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flipmyx said:
@Damented i just used this exploit from Doomlords and it works http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2327472. phone is rooted! yaaay! i installed NoBloat from the appstore and deleted the carrieriQ system app and it rebooted the phone automatically as soon as it was deleted.. hmm. i wonder if theres a way to make sure its not lurking inside the phone still
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you need the definitive mount reboot fix by NUT, otherwise the XZ will reboot as soon as you make an operation in /system.
You had carrieriQ in stock rom ?
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iDroid8 said:
when I asked people only said if you have to ask that you don't need to root
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read this, like the title says, all info for xperia's are there : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2153167

pjgowtham said:
Going to root after my warranty gets over
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Rooting doesn't void your warranty but unlocking the bootloader does :good:

I'm not rooting my phone - I don't really need to do that, and there are some important apps like Barclays Mobile that refuse to work on rooted phones. So count me as one.

I just got black one yesterday and tried root today with Bin4ry v31 but it seems to be stuck at white display test and running batch file at
"/data/local/tmp/onload.sh ..."
I think t-mobile xperia z need something new to be rooted.
Damented said:
Any one have a link to the root method for the 6606 t-mobile Z and the cwm?
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Don't root. The modded firmwares are not worth the effort, I tried most of them. CM 10.1 is nice, as long as you don't need the phone's camera - no HDR
You can simply disable not wanted apps with a stock phone just fine. Overclocking is also useless, the Z throttles down way too quick
Sorry thought you meant bootloader unlocking!

I held out until yesterday, as I've not rooted a phone before,complete noob of the highest order, now I'm rooted with dual recovery running monxrom and pureinfinity sound mod, changed all my icons in nav bar and bottom bar via monx mods, may change fonts if I find one I like.

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[Q] Nexus 4 On-Screen buttons

Hello, I am new to XDA developers and this is my first post here. Now my question is rather simple, yet I have not found a solution for it on the forums here. Now the issue is, I have owned an LG Nexus 4 (E960) for about a month now, and when ever I play games, the on screen buttons always seem to get in my way. Now my question is, how do you disable/re-enable the on screen buttons without rooting? (The reason why I don't want to root is that I heard it voids the warranty). Please reply with any information you think might be useful, as I have found these buttons to be frustrating when I play any game.
Thanks in advance,
Android 9000
You need to root, but otherwise try shaking your phone vigorously for 5 seconds, with the screen turned to 69% brightness, to disable the soft keys.
MattyB123 said:
You need to root, but otherwise try shaking your phone vigorously for 5 seconds, with the screen turned to 69% brightness, to disable the soft keys.
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Funny, but not helpful. If I root is there a way to revert back to stock without google knowing I rooted the phone?
Well I use this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.tsorn.FullScreen but u need to be rooted. U can always unroot your device if u send it back in for warranty reasons.
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Funny, but not helpful. If I root is there a way to revert back to stock without google knowing I rooted the phone?
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Use this guide to root, and you can also use it to return to stock should you need to for warranty reasons.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
MattyB123 said:
Use this guide to root, and you can also use it to return to stock should you need to for warranty reasons.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
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Also this is my first android phone, previously coming from a bad nokia phone so I have no idea how to root. Do you know what the easiest root is? When I jailbroke my iPod touch it just took a single click, no messing around with the command prompt and moving around files. So basically where would be the best place to get a root toolkit for my nexus 4 with something like a one click root, and a one click backup?
Android 9000 said:
Also this is my first android phone, previously coming from a bad nokia phone so I have no idea how to root. Do you know what the easiest root is? When I jailbroke my iPod touch it just took a single click, no messing around with the command prompt and moving around files. So basically where would be the best place to get a root toolkit for my nexus 4 with something like a one click root, and a one click backup?
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There is only 1 way to root a Nexus, unlocking the bootloader and flashing a custom recovery, it is very easy once you start and very unlikely to go wrong, it will wipe your data though.
And its even easier to return to stock as Google provide factory images.
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DarkhShadow said:
There is only 1 way to root a Nexus, unlocking the bootloader and flashing a custom recovery, it is very easy once you start and very unlikely to go wrong, it will wipe your data though.
And its even easier to return to stock as Google provide factory images.
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So there is no "one click to root" tool kit for the nexus 4? All I want is those softkeys to get out of my way when I play games, other than that the phone is fine. I don't want to ruin my nexus 4 by getting it into a bootloop or bricking it, and since there are so many steps to unlock the bootloader and root the device, I am bound to mess up somewhere.
s10shane said:
Well I use this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.tsorn.FullScreen but u need to be rooted. U can always unroot your device if u send it back in for warranty reasons.
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Do you know if this app will modify the system files and break OTA updates?
Android 9000 said:
So there is no "one click to root" tool kit for the nexus 4? All I want is those softkeys to get out of my way when I play games, other than that the phone is fine. I don't want to ruin my nexus 4 by getting it into a bootloop or bricking it, and since there are so many steps to unlock the bootloader and root the device, I am bound to mess up somewhere.
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you don't want to be using a one click... chances of boot loops and you won't be learning anything about rooting. Feel free to use the Nexus toolkit, but good luck solving that pesky boot loop. The guide I linked is really easy to follow, PM me and I'll write a really simple step by step, and if you get teamviewer i will watch you do it, and stop you going wrong.:fingers-crossed:
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Exodai said:
Do you know if this app will modify the system files and break OTA updates?
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Rooting with a custom recovery will break OTA, but the app won't. But since the app needs root, basically yeah
I think I will just wait until the next version of android comes out (version 5) so that I will not have to re-root, and for now I will just have to put up with those annoying softkeys. I would really want to see google include a gesture option for hiding/showing those buttons as I don't think I am the only one here that hates accidentally touching them during games.
Android 9000 said:
I think I will just wait until the next version of android comes out (version 5) so that I will not have to re-root, and for now I will just have to put up with those annoying softkeys. I would really want to see google include a gesture option for hiding/showing those buttons as I don't think I am the only one here that hates accidentally touching them during games.
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Well, that's not until May, and then you'll have to root anyway, so why not learn now?
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Well, that's not until May, and then you'll have to root anyway, so why not learn now?
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I guess I will try and learn now then.
you can root without flashing a custom recovery, it there in WUGS tool kit on this website
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015469,
also you can use keep root after taking a OTA from google with this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...m9yZy5wcm9qZWN0dm9vZG9vLm90YXJvb3RrZWVwZXIiXQ..
I used it twice on my N7, theres always a chance that it might not work. But if you atleast unlock the bootloader from there you should be able to push root agian from a tool kit if you want.
BrianDigital said:
you can root without flashing a custom recovery, it there in WUGS tool kit on this website
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015469,
also you can use keep root after taking a OTA from google with this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...m9yZy5wcm9qZWN0dm9vZG9vLm90YXJvb3RrZWVwZXIiXQ..
I used it twice on my N7, theres always a chance that it might not work. But if you atleast unlock the bootloader from there you should be able to push root agian from a tool kit if you want.
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I always advise against toolkits of any kind
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I always advise against toolkits of any kind
Sent from my Jelly Nexus 4
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he was already asking for it and they do exist, and i really dont care how the next person roots their phone
Okay, I have now rooted my nexus 4 and everything seems to be working great. Thank you all for your help and suggestions, I appreciate how nice everyone here is on the XDA developer forums.
Android 9000 said:
Okay, I have now rooted my nexus 4 and everything seems to be working great. Thank you all for your help and suggestions, I appreciate how nice everyone here is on the XDA developer forums.
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we try to be, also try to keep atleast one rom on your device, say if you accidentally have a bad flash for whatever reason, you will have something you know that works, or keep a nandroid backup
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Who cares about OTA, .zip will be in like minutes in here ready to flash it, even custom ROMS..

[Q] Random Reboots

Good afternoon peeps. I am Mark proud owner of a rooted Sammy S3. I have been around the block a few times with Sammy's. My first experience rooting was with my HTC Desire, then my LG Revolution and then my Sammy 2 and now 3.
I have a Moto Razr M on Verizon for a work phone. I received an update maybe 3 weeks ago, since then my phone with reboot itself 2-3 times a day. Some days it will completely shut down, and I will have to hit the power and volume buttons to reawaken it. Any thoughts or suggestions?
I really really want to root this bad boy. But it is a work phone. How easy is it to root one of these guys? Is there stable enough ROMs? Will any OTA break the root so I would have to re root it again?
Thanks guys and gals!
markapowell said:
Good afternoon peeps. I am Mark proud owner of a rooted Sammy S3. I have been around the block a few times with Sammy's. My first experience rooting was with my HTC Desire, then my LG Revolution and then my Sammy 2 and now 3.
I have a Moto Razr M on Verizon for a work phone. I received an update maybe 3 weeks ago, since then my phone with reboot itself 2-3 times a day. Some days it will completely shut down, and I will have to hit the power and volume buttons to reawaken it. Any thoughts or suggestions?
I really really want to root this bad boy. But it is a work phone. How easy is it to root one of these guys? Is there stable enough ROMs? Will any OTA break the root so I would have to re root it again?
Thanks guys and gals!
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You could just have a bad app. Goto my goodies & install xperia launcher it has an app drawer that sorts by date installed. Uninstall apps one at a time & reboot after each.
You may need a data reset from security.
See my restore link for steps to a full restore & a link to root for locked users.
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Xperia launcher needs to be installed while apps are being accumulated for the "by date" to be of any use.
aviwdoowks said:
You could just have a bad app. Goto my goodies & install xperia launcher it has an app drawer that sorts by date installed. Uninstall apps one at a time & reboot after each.
You may need a data reset from security.
See my restore link for steps to a full restore & a link to root for locked users.
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Xperia launcher needs to be installed while apps are being accumulated for the "by date" to be of any use.
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I will start there, but I am not the only one in the company having the issue. I have 2 other workers who are having the random reboots. Heck 3 of us have issues charging on various chargers.
markapowell said:
Good afternoon peeps. I am Mark proud owner of a rooted Sammy S3. I have been around the block a few times with Sammy's. My first experience rooting was with my HTC Desire, then my LG Revolution and then my Sammy 2 and now 3.
I have a Moto Razr M on Verizon for a work phone. I received an update maybe 3 weeks ago, since then my phone with reboot itself 2-3 times a day. Some days it will completely shut down, and I will have to hit the power and volume buttons to reawaken it. Any thoughts or suggestions?
I really really want to root this bad boy. But it is a work phone. How easy is it to root one of these guys? Is there stable enough ROMs? Will any OTA break the root so I would have to re root it again?
Thanks guys and gals!
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I don't get the random reboots, but I've heard of others experiencing that with corporate phones (could be one of the security features not playing nicely).
root is easy to obtain, but you cannot unlock the bootloader to slap on a custom ROM if your baseband version is after May 2013.
there was/is an app called safestrap that allows folks to side-load custom ROMs, but you'll be sacrificing space (which already comes at a premium on this device). i think the OTA will unroot, but you can still re-root.
right now, IMO, the main reason to unlock the bootloader is to install a custom newer ROM (4.2.2 and 4.3 are available). an unlocked bootloader means that you can install a custom kernel, which are needed for these newer ROMs
however, if your main reason is to simply debloat, then root would satisfy that as well.
hope this helps.
Yah build date is may 24th. I had like 6 apps and 10 programs with updates I removed or wiped clean. Give it a day and see what happens. Thanks for the suggestions.
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Very nice so far today no reboots. Thanks.
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Root Now or later

Should i root now or later? Why i ask is because if i do root now will a ota update come out and brick my phone or should i just wait till a rom comes and root then flash it?
Please help im a flashoholic stop me while you can. Can't have this powerful device in my hand without root
I'm wanting to root mine but I'm going to wait until we can get custom recovery and roms. It won't be long I would imagine. I do wonder if we'll get an ota soon because of the call quality issue.
I'm gonna wait myself. I feel your pain though. I did read that the international version has had 2 upgrades already that supposedly made the wifi, phone reception, & battery life better. From what I read anyway. It was in a thread on here. Plus there seems to be a lot of problem after rooting posts in the Q&A section. I figure better safe than sorry.
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Storm T said:
I'm wanting to root mine but I'm going to wait until we can get custom recovery and roms. It won't be long I would imagine. I do wonder if we'll get an ota soon because of the call quality issue.
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Ibkevin said:
I'm gonna wait myself. I feel your pain though. I did read that the international version has had 2 upgrades already that supposedly made the wifi, phone reception, & battery life better. From what I read anyway. It was in a thread on here. Plus there seems to be a lot of problem after rooting posts in the Q&A section. I figure better safe than sorry.
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Thank you for your input guys. Just want it overclocked so bad. lol how soon will it take to get the boot loader unlocked. by the way is the vzw s4 boot loader unlocked yet smh
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Thank you for your input guys. Just want it overclocked so bad. lol how soon will it take to get the boot loader unlocked. by the way is the vzw s4 boot loader unlocked yet smh
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Why would you want it overclocked? Phone runs fine on the quad core snapdragon processor. Overclocking (half of the time) leads to some sort of instability. It heats your phone up like a stove because you basicly gave your phone ritilin. And don't even get me started on the battery...
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There is no reason to overclock. This phone flies and 6 hours of screen time on a charge is ridiculous as well. Just root and get it over with. It is simple to do. Just follow the directions to a T.
I delayed a few days and need not have. Procedure is straightforward and not hard.
It's easy to root the only disadvantage is wiping everything out.
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I rooted mine right after I bought it because I needed to get rid of the stupid bloat they put on my phone I hate that stuff
johnminator said:
Should i root now or later? Why i ask is because if i do root now will a ota update come out and brick my phone or should i just wait till a rom comes and root then flash it?
Please help im a flashoholic stop me while you can. Can't have this powerful device in my hand without root
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OTA cant just be put on your phone. You have to accept the update to be flashed. So rooting has nothing to do with it.
You can always freeze SDM.apk and that will prevent it. But again, Verizon Updater app just notifies you that an OTA is available.
just root now no issues whatsoever with mine during or after root and overclock!?!? what do you want its a 2.3 ghz quadcore sd 800 and you want more!?!? this phone is like butter in anything and everything fully loaded with 100+ apps i see zero reasons to overclock
Thank you so much guys, one more question to ask. If i root it does it trigger anything that shows root like the unlock logo when booting like (custom)
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Thank you so much guys, one more question to ask. If i root it does it trigger anything that shows root like the unlock logo when booting like (custom)
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It does show "custom"on boot screen but can easily be removed
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danutzz said:
It does show "custom"on boot screen but can easily be removed
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Cool so how would you do that and does it trip knox
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Cool so how would you do that and does it trip knox
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It does not trip knox. You remove the custom logo with Wanan Xposed -> Security Hacks -> Fake System Status.
And you can always restore back to stock.
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It does not trip knox. You remove the custom logo with Wanan Xposed -> Security Hacks -> Fake System Status.
And you can always restore back to stock.
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Sounds great so have you rooted
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Sounds great so have you rooted
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Yep, as soon as I got it. I didn't want to wait around and get things set up and then root later and have to set them all up again
I entertained the idea of giving stock a try but about 30 seconds of the default DPI and VZW bloat put an end to that.
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Yep, as soon as I got it. I didn't want to wait around and get things set up and then root later and have to set them all up again
I entertained the idea of giving stock a try but about 30 seconds of the default DPI and VZW bloat put an end to that.
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LMBO how did you remove bloat and are there any side effects
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LMBO how did you remove bloat and are there any side effects
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The side effects are that you can remove a feature, or a dependency of a feature that you want. That's why I froze them with Titanium Backup; easy to just defrost is something acts weird.
airmaxx23 posted this list of the apps he removed without any problems.
Rooting with the current method will wipe your device. So, until a method comes along that doesn't wipe your device, it's best to do it sooner than later, so you have less stuff to restore and re-download.
Also. Who knows when VZW will push out a patch. Best to root and disable the APK that looks for OTAs before you start getting annoying update popups.
The root method we have no is dead easy, and simple to follow. Takes all of about 5 minutes and you're finished. Very easy and hassle free.

290 out now on unbranded uk

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Awesome, I get my XZ1 Tomorrow, so its good to be able to get 4.3 straight away
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Does this been I can update to 290 now and it will keep my root?
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sfex3best said:
Does this been I can update to 290 now and it will keep my root?
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No.
Just got the notification myself on UK rom
So we cannot update from 4.2.2 and keep partial root on locked bootloader?
If not I'll still hold off till root has hopefully been fixed
Mind you I have custom recovery so wont ota anyways will it?
Thanks
believe me the 4.3 is worth loosing ur root .... the Wifi Signal Is amazing it matches my Series5 Samsung Laptop !
Thanks I have been on 4.3 a few week back but with all the brickin going around I come off it
Still nice to have root though as most of the decent apps need root access
Can share the ftf files?
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Thanks I have been on 4.3 a few week back but with all the brickin going around I come off it
Still nice to have root though as most of the decent apps need root access
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Bricking?!
What the hell are you talking about.
Flash normal version, official and you'll have one of the best phone available at the moment.
There's no problem at all...
Don't mess with something you don't understand.
For now there's no 100% safe way for rooting (locked BL) so don't do that.
But to said something like that is just ridiculous and, sorry but, stupid.
And all decent apps doesn't need root to work properly...
I know what I'm talking about and I can confirm that you can use your device without any problems without rooting it.
It would be better if we have good way for root but it's not the end of the world if we are, at the moment, without it.
Stop flooding threads with a nonsense.
You want to use older firmware?
Cool, why not.
But to claim new firmware isn't good and there's "all that bricking..." is just stupid.
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@carbon21
Mate, have you tried to update via OTA?
on some firmwares there's a way to update through OTA.
Please, if you can - try...
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Is this a load of nonsense http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574764
That's just one thread of many and it's even proven to of happened to someone just updating via Sony update centre without been rooted of unlocked bootloader
Sorry if my question come across as "stupid" but there are many threads of bricked devices all leading to updating to 290 which is enough to make anyone wounder if it's a safe build
And the rooting thing yes I know we will eventually have it the guys on xda are the best and always prevail :good: but I disagree as far as all apps work without root there a tons of apps which almost everyone use that needs root access
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Is this a load of nonsense http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574764
That's just one thread of many and it's even proven to of happened to someone just updating via Sony update centre without been rooted of unlocked bootloader
Sorry if my question come across as "stupid" but there are many threads of bricked devices all leading to updating to 290 which is enough to make anyone wounder if it's a safe build
And the rooting thing yes I know we will eventually have it the guys on xda are the best and always prevail :good: but I disagree as far as all apps work without root there a tons of apps which almost everyone use that needs root access
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very sensible mate, ive stayed on 4.2.2 as well as i need root for apps that I MUST have. Even if root is possible a few people have bricked their phones and I for one am not prepared to take a 600 pounds risk ATM as i bought this phone brand new.
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Is this a load of nonsense http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574764
That's just one thread of many and it's even proven to of happened to someone just updating via Sony update centre without been rooted of unlocked bootloader
Sorry if my question come across as "stupid" but there are many threads of bricked devices all leading to updating to 290 which is enough to make anyone wounder if it's a safe build
And the rooting thing yes I know we will eventually have it the guys on xda are the best and always prevail :good: but I disagree as far as all apps work without root there a tons of apps which almost everyone use that needs root access
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Then these threads are people who are not being 100% honest. There's no way you will "brick" your Z1 with an official SEUS or PC Companion Update with a locked, unrooted phone. Zero chance. Unless the phone happens to be faulty.
It's just scaremongering. Plus a good phone, does not need root in my book.
That's just stupid, a good phone will be even better with root... Rooting is to make the software better, or to make it work better for you, nothing to do with the phone itself... And what if I want to backup all my apps with titanium? If I'm not rooted, it doesn't matter how good the phone is, i wouldnt be able to do it.
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How does rooting make software better?
It's down to individual choice, some people like to change things only root will allow but others don't.
Scaremongering by claiming widespread bricking of phones is not helpful. Some people have hit problems when experimenting with rooting methods. It's par for the course, most of these so called bricking incidents have been recovered eventually. A truly bricked phone is a rare incident.
Warning people off upgrading is OTT. A safe root method will be found soon.
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Does this 290 unbranded uk include 20 MP in Superior Auto or 8 MP?
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rooting makes some apps not work. I'd rather have root but don't need it and z1 is good without it, but if you need it just stick to older firmware. this thread is going off topic
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rooting
3 of the major advantages of rooting are (at least in my opinion) ...
1. Block ads in apps
2. Remove bloatware and tweak ROM for better performance
3. Move apps to SD
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[Q] What will happen if I update to 4.4 while still rooted?

I am currently on system version 9.30.1 and I am rooted. My boot loader isn't unlocked and I don't have a custom recovery installed. I am wondering if being rooted will cause issues once the 4.4 update is released. And if so how do I remove root?
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Well, since you are rooted, chances are you have probably removed some of the bloat that was installed on your phone by your provider. If this is so, you won't even be able to update to 4.4 unless you first return your phone completely to stock, ie add all the bloat back in. If your phone is not stock, you can remove updater.apk and you won't even be prompted for the update.
If you are completely stock and rooted, when you accept the update to 4.4, once the upgrade completes, you simply will not be rooted anymore. This is true whether you have a locked or an unlocked bootloader. With the unlocked bootloader and a custom recovery, it may be possible to have root if the one in the recovery works with 4.4 Otherwise, we will all have to wait until if/when root becomes available for Android 4.4 and our phone. This is why it is often recommended that you wait to update until the devs have a chance to tear the update apart and look for usable exploits.
Some what on the same topic... I made a back up after unlocking before doing anything... Could I restore said back up flash stock recovery voodoo my root and ota... Or would I still have to rsd then ota?
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ezknives said:
Some what on the same topic... I made a back up after unlocking before doing anything... Could I restore said back up flash stock recovery voodoo my root and ota... Or would I still have to rsd then ota?
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Yes, you can flash your backup and then take the OTA, but you don't need voodoo if you're unlocked. Re-flash recovery and then flash root.
netizenmt said:
Well, since you are rooted, chances are you have probably removed some of the bloat that was installed on your phone by your provider. If this is so, you won't even be able to update to 4.4 unless you first return your phone completely to stock, ie add all the bloat back in. If your phone is not stock, you can remove updater.apk and you won't even be prompted for the update.
If you are completely stock and rooted, when you accept the update to 4.4, once the upgrade completes, you simply will not be rooted anymore. This is true whether you have a locked or an unlocked bootloader. With the unlocked bootloader and a custom recovery, it may be possible to have root if the one in the recovery works with 4.4 Otherwise, we will all have to wait until if/when root becomes available for Android 4.4 and our phone. This is why it is often recommended that you wait to update until the devs have a chance to tear the update apart and look for usable exploits.
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Thanks, I am rooted and didnt touch any of the bloatware. I bought the phone in an non-unlockable state, 9.30.1, so I just want some form of kit-kat on this. In an un-xda like fashion im probably going to just take the update ASAP.
AKShotgun said:
Thanks, I am rooted and didnt touch any of the bloatware. I bought the phone in an non-unlockable state, 9.30.1, so I just want some form of kit-kat on this. In an un-xda like fashion im probably going to just take the update ASAP.
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Being locked & rooted you will lose root perhaps forever.
aviwdoowks said:
Being locked & rooted you will lose root perhaps forever.
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A lot of guess work.. considering first off that 4.4 hasn't been provided. If it was provided will you be the first to jump?
theemaster said:
A lot of guess work.. considering first off that 4.4 hasn't been provided. If it was provided will you be the first to jump?
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I have 442 already and boy is it fast!
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But I cannot root on the X that is.
aviwdoowks said:
I have 442 already and boy is it fast!
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But I cannot root on the X that is.
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You don't say....
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A lot of guess work.. considering first off that 4.4 hasn't been provided. If it was provided will you be the first to jump?
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Take a look in the S5 and X forums to get the proof you need about KK being hard to root.
AK, I would seriously wait until the devs get hold of the update. Let the devs take the OTA and pull it apart so they can start providing ROMs for SafeStrap. Then, update to KK via SS.
My plan is to go all stock and accept the update IF it ever actually gets released. As my bootloader is unlocked, I always have the option of reflashing recovery on it, make a backup of 4.4, and then run it or some other rom backup as I choose. Also, I'm curious to know, if there is supposed to be superuser built into TWRP, will that allow 4.4 to be rooted anyway, or not?
As you can see, I know just enough to be dangerous, lol, but as long as I can make calls, it's all good.
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My plan is to go all stock and accept the update IF it ever actually gets released. As my bootloader is unlocked, I always have the option of reflashing recovery on it, make a backup of 4.4, and then run it or some other rom backup as I choose. Also, I'm curious to know, if there is supposed to be superuser built into TWRP, will that allow 4.4 to be rooted anyway, or not?
As you can see, I know just enough to be dangerous, lol, but as long as I can make calls, it's all good.
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As long as your bootloader is unlocked, all you need to do after you update to the OTA is re-flash recovery and then superuser to regain root.
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My plan is to go all stock and accept the update IF it ever actually gets released. As my bootloader is unlocked, I always have the option of reflashing recovery on it, make a backup of 4.4, and then run it or some other rom backup as I choose. Also, I'm curious to know, if there is supposed to be superuser built into TWRP, will that allow 4.4 to be rooted anyway, or not?
As you can see, I know just enough to be dangerous, lol, but as long as I can make calls, it's all good.
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I don't think there is an "if" in it. The executive posted on google+ about receiving the update in the next couple weeks.
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AKShotgun said:
I don't think there is an "if" in it. The executive posted on google+ about receiving the update in the next couple weeks.
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Well its been a few weeks since he said that. Having had a similar situation with Sony and the Xperia Play and ICS, I can tell you the average executive's word isn't worth spit. And then there's the whole Verizon involvement which always adds another level of delay. I'm hoping I'm wrong, but I would be surprised if we get KK in a few Months, never mind weeks.
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Well its been a few weeks since he said that. Having had a similar situation with Sony and the Xperia Play and ICS, I can tell you the average executive's word isn't worth spit. And then there's the whole Verizon involvement which always adds another level of delay. I'm hoping I'm wrong, but I would be surprised if we get KK in a few Months, never mind weeks.
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Sorry if it seems like it im not trying to fight you here but he commented on his google+ post saying Razr M and HD KitKat is already at Verizon labs. So im guessing about a month.
I look forward to being wrong. I really hope we get it in the next few months. I've noticed that each revision of Android has made the need to develop custom ROMs less necessary for many phones. Of course that won't lessen our desire or enthusiasm to push the envelope. But when I think how far we have come from my first Android, the LG Ally and Eclair... There was a phone that was crap stock, but once unlocked and customized, it was a very decent phone for its time and price point. Today, its harder to see the need or difference between stock and custom ROMs, other than removal of bloat and occasionally some new bell or whistle. Still, I can't seem to resist their siren's call any more than the rest of you. Which is why I'm running CM11. Lol!
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