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I've been using this phone for a little over a week now (T-Mobile US version) and I don't feel an immediate need to root and throw a custom Rom on this bad boy.
When first got my GS3 I rooted and put CM on it within the first hour. Is anyone in a similar position where you don't feel nagging need to root?
Not saying I won't root or Rom this phone but so far I'm cool with the out of box experience
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I've had the Z for about 4 months now and haven't had much of a desire to root it. The only real reason would be to mod the softkeys or something. The phone does everything I really need it to do; I can't find a problem that rooting would fix at the moment. I haven't had much of a desire to root my last two phones actually (Xperia Z, Razr Maxx), don't know if I'm just getting lazy or the phones are just more functional these days without root.
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jesusprice said:
I've been using this phone for a little over a week now (T-Mobile US version) and I don't feel an immediate need to root and throw a custom Rom on this bad boy.
When first got my GS3 I rooted and put CM on it within the first hour. Is anyone in a similar position where you don't feel nagging need to root?
Not saying I won't root or Rom this phone but so far I'm cool with the out of box experience
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I rooted my XZ as soon as I got it, it's up to you though. You can always unroot it, I think...
I've been very happy with the original rom because I prefer it to other oem roms. I like the cleanliness and the simplicity. Plus, I don't want to root because it'll affect specialized features unique to Sony such as the Mobile Bravia engine.
Rooting and unlocking BL is not the same.
Root does not affect the bravia engine BL unlocking does...
With root you can get special features like call blocker, LBE Security master Bloat remover and you can unroot if have a problem
BL unlock yes you could lock it back and you can have bravia working again, BUT YOU CANNOT REMOVE YOUR IMEI FROM SONY'S OUT OF WARRANTY LIST.
I rooted my phone for CWM, Titanium backup and greenify and more importantly, the loud sound mod.
Rooting is so easy and it doesn't void the warranty so I see no point in not doing it lol
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I've been very happy with the original rom because I prefer it to other oem roms. I like the cleanliness and the simplicity. Plus, I don't want to root because it'll affect specialized features unique to Sony such as the Mobile Bravia engine.
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Same here I'm quite satisfied with the stock rom everything is great & I don't want to root
rooting was the first thing I did, how else can I restore my titanium backup from my previous phone lol.couldn't imagine not having a rooted phone, the stock rom is fine though and I haven't messed with that.
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Going to root after my warranty gets over
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Any one have a link to the root method for the 6606 t-mobile Z and the cwm?
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I would've rooted because I wanted to maybe try Cyanogenmod and remove bloatware but I wasn't sure about it voiding warranty and stuff, when I asked people only said if you have to ask that you don't need to root. Looks like I can, so I'll try DooMLords easy root kit.
@Damented i just used this exploit from Doomlords and it works http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2327472. phone is rooted! yaaay! i installed NoBloat from the appstore and deleted the carrieriQ system app and it rebooted the phone automatically as soon as it was deleted.. hmm. i wonder if theres a way to make sure its not lurking inside the phone still
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I would've rooted because I wanted to maybe try Cyanogenmod and remove bloatware but I wasn't sure about it voiding warranty and stuff, when I asked people only said if you have to ask that you don't need to root. Looks like I can, so I'll try DooMLords easy root kit.
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Cyanogenmod requires a custom kernel, and thus, requires your bootloader to be unlocked.
Keep in mind that root does not equal bootloader unlocked. If your device is bought from a carrier (T Mobile, for example) you won't be able to install CM or its derivatives due to the lack of ability to unlock the bootloader.
I had everything installed on my PC to root & BLU 4 weeks before i got my fone
You can be happy with stock sony rom and feels the need to root, root access has nothing to do with ROM !
You won't void your warranty and you won't lost NOTHING!
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flipmyx said:
@Damented i just used this exploit from Doomlords and it works http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2327472. phone is rooted! yaaay! i installed NoBloat from the appstore and deleted the carrieriQ system app and it rebooted the phone automatically as soon as it was deleted.. hmm. i wonder if theres a way to make sure its not lurking inside the phone still
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you need the definitive mount reboot fix by NUT, otherwise the XZ will reboot as soon as you make an operation in /system.
You had carrieriQ in stock rom ?
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when I asked people only said if you have to ask that you don't need to root
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read this, like the title says, all info for xperia's are there : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2153167
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Going to root after my warranty gets over
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Rooting doesn't void your warranty but unlocking the bootloader does :good:
I'm not rooting my phone - I don't really need to do that, and there are some important apps like Barclays Mobile that refuse to work on rooted phones. So count me as one.
I just got black one yesterday and tried root today with Bin4ry v31 but it seems to be stuck at white display test and running batch file at
"/data/local/tmp/onload.sh ..."
I think t-mobile xperia z need something new to be rooted.
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Any one have a link to the root method for the 6606 t-mobile Z and the cwm?
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Don't root. The modded firmwares are not worth the effort, I tried most of them. CM 10.1 is nice, as long as you don't need the phone's camera - no HDR
You can simply disable not wanted apps with a stock phone just fine. Overclocking is also useless, the Z throttles down way too quick
Sorry thought you meant bootloader unlocking!
I held out until yesterday, as I've not rooted a phone before,complete noob of the highest order, now I'm rooted with dual recovery running monxrom and pureinfinity sound mod, changed all my icons in nav bar and bottom bar via monx mods, may change fonts if I find one I like.
I noticed the new OTA updated on my phone today and decided not to install it. Once I got home, I plugged my phone into my computer to charge it and it installed the OTA update without even asking. So with that being said, what do I have to do now to get back to where I was which was stock with root access?
I did a backup this morning with Titanium, could I do a factory reset and restore with Titanium?
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I noticed the new OTA updated on my phone today and decided not to install it. Once I got home, I plugged my phone into my computer to charge it and it installed the OTA update without even asking. So with that being said, what do I have to do now to get back to where I was which was stock with root access?
I did a backup this morning with Titanium, could I do a factory reset and restore with Titanium?
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I believe you are stuck like me! I was using a jailbroken iphone which would block any update from apple and I got used to that. I forgot to freeze the updater and it automatically updated my brand new s4 that I had just rooted and tweaked to my liking just a few days ago :crying::crying::crying:
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You guys are on hold right now.
I don't understand how you guys are getting OTA updates with a rotted phone. When mine was rooted, it said updating was disabled because my device was modified.
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I don't understand how you guys are getting OTA updates with a rotted phone. When mine was rooted, it said updating was disabled because my device was modified.
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some are seeing, even if they are rooted, it will say official and do the update, lose root after, but it has been seen.
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Avoid all updates by flashing custom roms. You can always go back to factory stock, unrooted and untouched. But this way, you can see what updates do what, and then decide.
The Ax says, just a helpful tip.
I tried to avoid the update but lost the battle when I plugged my phone in to charge and walked away! I should have froze those services listed in another thread. I had no idea. Its only time... Hopefully
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I don't mean to make matters worse for you, but stories like these are really depressing. I sincerely hope that some of our advanced Devs will find a solution for MF3 root soon.
And now for the potentially helpful part: AT&T typically has a 14 "buyers remorse" policy. They'll take back the handset (so long as it is in perfect condition) for ANY reason and exchange it for another (or same one, as far as I know). Two caveats:
You will likely be forced to pay a $35 re-stocking fee. Might be worth it for root/ROMs though!
You can only do this once per purchase.
Otherwise, you'll need to wait until a solid root is found for MF3. Even still, keep in mind that your "aboot" has been patched, and now Loki will not work for you (it means no custom roms/kernels, and no custom recovery). This might be permanent, as the bootloaders are locked-down TIGHT. The Loki exploit was just a workaround, but even it is gone in MF3.
I just posted this in another thread, so here you go again:
For future reference, or for someone else, you could have avoided this easily!
1) When it tries to update, don't hit "remind me later"! You can only do that so many times before it forces the update automatically. INSTEAD, you can just hit the home button and force your way out, not making any decision. You can do this indefinitely...but it's annoying so you should just 2) Get Titanium Backup and freeze the OTA update apps so they don't bother you! It's right at the top of the sticky beginner's info aka noob helper thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
You probably already knew this but maybe it will help someone else who's not prepared to avoid this OTA!
jeffreii said:
I just posted this in another thread, so here you go again:
For future reference, or for someone else, you could have avoided this easily!
1) When it tries to update, don't hit "remind me later"! You can only do that so many times before it forces the update automatically. INSTEAD, you can just hit the home button and force your way out, not making any decision. You can do this indefinitely...but it's annoying so you should just 2) Get Titanium Backup and freeze the OTA update apps so they don't bother you! It's right at the top of the sticky beginner's info aka noob helper thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
You probably already knew this but maybe it will help someone else who's not prepared to avoid this OTA!
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I did that exactly. I just ignored it. I have no idea what triggered my phone to do the update. I checked just now and even when I plug my phone in, Kies doesn't even open. I'm not sure what I did... Its really annoying though.
I'll keep my fingers crossed.
I'm hearing sim unlock will not work now? Is that true?
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I'm hearing sim unlock will not work now? Is that true?
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I'm not sure but if I had to guess I would think not.
Hello all;
I thought I would share my root/flash ROM experience with others, not necessarily those who are pros, more folks like me, technically literate but this process is new.
I picked up my One the first day it was available, I had it pre-ordered from [email protected] and have been a long time iPhone user. I was tired of waiting for the jb and once I saw the specs on the One I was sold.
I was fine with Apex launcher and Widget locker for quite awhile, but then the mod bug started. I followed qbking77's vid's to perform the unlock and root. I made sure to backup everything with Helium and I also did a copy of my Android drive to my Mac just to make sure I had everything. I used Helium to Google Drive and that worked very well. I had to make sure to load Google Drive after the wipe and log into it before I was able to restore my data.
So I sat at root for awhile, but it was a matter of time until I flashed my 1st ROM, SinLessROM GE v3.6.2. After reading everything on here I could find, I decided on the SinLess Rom. I always say, never start something technical late, but I did not heed my own advice. I used Titanium to do my backup, along with Helium again. Then the moment of truth, TWRP and wipe. I go to install in recovery and find the zip and bam, error number 1!!! Well it turns out I had Safari on expand after download and did not have the .zip. I get a little freaked out. I turned on the phone and it started working through the normal HTC One load (remember that), I finally am able to move the correct .zip to the phone. Then I install it, it works!! Yeah! The phone starts up but just sits and sits at the google screen. I then realize I started the phone after I did the wipe and did not re-wipe it. So, I re-wipe it, re-install and Sweet!!! It works like a charm!!! I had to get the new SuperSU for root, then I was able to install Xposed.
Used both Titanium and Helium to download what I needed, and its been rolling great all day and I'm loving it.
I do have 1 question, when the new version of the ROM comes out, I don't have to wipe the phone again do I? I would think I can do a dirty install.
So, hopefully if your on the fence, you will take the jump. Backup, backup and backup!
Have fun!
If it's a small update, or the same ROM, you tend not to have to wipe again (e.g. you can just flash over the top)
But if you're going to a different rom, or a major version change, then it's recommended to wipe typically.
Personally, I like to wipe between updates just as an opportunity to get rid of loads of stuff I've installed but not used
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If it's a small update, or the same ROM, you tend not to have to wipe again (e.g. you can just flash over the top)
But if you're going to a different rom, or a major version change, then it's recommended to wipe typically.
Personally, I like to wipe between updates just as an opportunity to get rid of loads of stuff I've installed but not used
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Thanks for the response!
So how do you manage all your apps and data if you wipe between updates? When I wiped my data and all, I lost all my apps and data that goes with them. While I was able to being everything back, it took a few hours. Am I missing an easy way to restore? The update seems like a small update, its a 3.6.1 to 3.6.2 update.
Jack
jackpollard said:
Thanks for the response!
So how do you manage all your apps and data if you wipe between updates? When I wiped my data and all, I lost all my apps and data that goes with them. While I was able to being everything back, it took a few hours. Am I missing an easy way to restore? The update seems like a small update, its a 3.6.1 to 3.6.2 update.
Jack
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Welcome to the community!
Titanium Backup (TB) is invaluable at the point that you are at. It is well worth the price for the license on the Play Store. With TB you can backup apps, and the associated data. Just be warned though, if you ever decide to go to another ROM, you can not use the backups from the previous ROM.
Basically, going from X-ROM 1.2 to X-ROM 1.3 is fine, but if you try to restore backups from X-ROM to A-ROM, you will run into major headaches.
Hope this helps!
Hello Liskrig thanks for your hello. I read so many good things about titanium backup I bought it a while ago. It helped me when I rooted my phone. Thanks for the good advice
I went ahead and wiped the cache and then the devlic (sp) cache and then did the install. It worked with no issue and seems fine.
Jack
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Liskrig said:
Welcome to the community!
Titanium Backup (TB) is invaluable at the point that you are at. It is well worth the price for the license on the Play Store. With TB you can backup apps, and the associated data. Just be warned though, if you ever decide to go to another ROM, you can not use the backups from the previous ROM.
Basically, going from X-ROM 1.2 to X-ROM 1.3 is fine, but if you try to restore backups from X-ROM to A-ROM, you will run into major headaches.
Hope this helps!
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Now I finally find this invaluable info after all the flashing I have tried and it finally makes since. I have recently tried a few ARHD Roms and they come out so fast, I was never sure if I need to fullwipe, backup and restore or what. It's nice not to have to re-download everything.
Thanks for the heads up.
Welcome to the addiction! You'll find yourself scouring the XDA forums for rom updates and kernels in a very obsessive manner soon enough!
I do dirty flashes all the time if the changes are minor like 4.1.1 to 4.1.2...but from 4.1 to 4.3 i did a clean install
Too late...the bug has hit me back when I got the first Samsung vibrant. Now I'm looking for a killer Rom to beat the ARHD...it's stable but not the fastest. And I love the stock items...blink feed and sense makes me happy.
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HomesliceOne said:
Welcome to the addiction! You'll find yourself scouring the XDA forums for rom updates and kernels in a very obsessive manner soon enough!
I do dirty flashes all the time if the changes are minor like 4.1.1 to 4.1.2...but from 4.1 to 4.3 i did a clean install
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Too late...the bug has hit me back when I got the first Samsung vibrant. Now I'm looking for a killer Rom to beat the ARHD...it's stable but not the fastest. And I love the stock items...blink feed and sense makes me happy.
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HomesliceOne said:
Welcome to the addiction! You'll find yourself scouring the XDA forums for rom updates and kernels in a very obsessive manner soon enough!
I do dirty flashes all the time if the changes are minor like 4.1.1 to 4.1.2...but from 4.1 to 4.3 i did a clean install
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Too late...the bug has hit me back when I got the first Samsung vibrant. Now I'm looking for a killer Rom to beat the ARHD...it's stable but not the fastest. And I love the stock items...blink feed and sense makes me happy.
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Liskrig said:
Welcome to the community!
Titanium Backup (TB) is invaluable at the point that you are at. It is well worth the price for the license on the Play Store. With TB you can backup apps, and the associated data. Just be warned though, if you ever decide to go to another ROM, you can not use the backups from the previous ROM.
Basically, going from X-ROM 1.2 to X-ROM 1.3 is fine, but if you try to restore backups from X-ROM to A-ROM, you will run into major headaches.
Hope this helps!
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With system apps that's a problem but user apps are safe to restore on other roms at least in my experience.
PaulG1488 said:
With system apps that's a problem but user apps are safe to restore on other roms at least in my experience.
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^^^ this
How would anybody feed their flashaholism without that capability?
can i ask , which guide you used please?
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can i ask , which guide you used please?
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Hello dahmmy;
If your question is for me regarding what guide I used to unlock and root, just search qbking77 and root htc one. I did update SuperSU to the newest version but really followed that guide to the letter. I made one concession, I used a Win7 machine instead of my Mac.
I do have a question for you all flash masters, so do I need s-off in order to update my kernels when available? I kind of get lost understanding; when the official 4.3 HTC rom comes out and its incorporated into the ROM I have loaded, when that ROM is updated, will it also upgrade my radio and all? I still have the 1.44 HBOOT so understand I can s-off. Thanks for any feedback and I will keep reading.
jackpollard said:
Hello dahmmy;
If your question is for me regarding what guide I used to unlock and root, just search qbking77 and root htc one. I did update SuperSU to the newest version but really followed that guide to the letter. I made one concession, I used a Win7 machine instead of my Mac.
I do have a question for you all flash masters, so do I need s-off in order to update my kernels when available? I kind of get lost understanding; when the official 4.3 HTC rom comes out and its incorporated into the ROM I have loaded, when that ROM is updated, will it also upgrade my radio and all? I still have the 1.44 HBOOT so understand I can s-off. Thanks for any feedback and I will keep reading.
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Hi
You don't need to s-off to load a new kernel. If you update your device with an official RUU or a zip containing a Hboot, radio or framework then those partitions will be updated. You can only make that uograde if your CID is accepted by the update (or you ar supercid and s-off). If you on the other hand flash a custom ROM the above mentioned partitions are in I think all cases removed from the ZIP.
It's hard to advice you to s-off or not, but I did it while I hade the opportunity so I could supercid the device and reset the tampered flag.
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I advise to s-off now if you have a comfortable feel with adb and cmd prompt. Its pretty straightforward, and the chances of a fatal error is extremely thin. While others will say warranty doesn't really check for unlocked and tampered stays flags, I like to be able to make it look 100% stock in case I have to send it in.
Other pros are ability to upgrade and downgrade ruus, hboots and firmwares without a hitch. You'll pretty much always have root and some other customizations are possible through an s-off device.
But as always, if you don't feel comfortable with it, the HTC one can pretty much do any average modding without s-off so its not 100% necessary.
Anyone need help with anything I'm always down through pm and I've given my phone number on a couple occasions. Happy modding :thumbup:
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Great and appreciated feedback. I did try using revone to s-off, I was using the terminal on the phone method and consistently get error = 1. I'm running hboot 1.44, but have the SinLess ROM running, I think thats the issue, I researched and it looks like cause its the GE and not Sense. I'm not sure I want to drop back and reload the stock, then reload SinLess, its so sweet I have it perfectly setup for me.
You know I have to say thanks to everyone who has read and especially commented, being this is a more technical forum then most others, I read a lot of threads that are tough on noobs like me. I've been an IT developer for the last 35 years (yeach I feel old), I was an iPhone person for years and would always jb to get my phone useful to me. When I saw the One, I was sold and never looked back. I think I've read most of the posts about the One and rooting, etc. But, still have questions of course. So I thank you all again for your feedback and great advice. Starting to feel a bit more comfortable in here.
If I can help anyone else looking to root I would happy to, just PM me. I'm so not an expert, but sometimes you just need another set of eyes to see when you don't.
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I advise to s-off now if you have a comfortable feel with adb and cmd prompt. Its pretty straightforward, and the chances of a fatal error is extremely thin. While others will say warranty doesn't really check for unlocked and tampered stays flags, I like to be able to make it look 100% stock in case I have to send it in.
Other pros are ability to upgrade and downgrade ruus, hboots and firmwares without a hitch. You'll pretty much always have root and some other customizations are possible through an s-off device.
But as always, if you don't feel comfortable with it, the HTC one can pretty much do any average modding without s-off so its not 100% necessary.
Anyone need help with anything I'm always down through pm and I've given my phone number on a couple occasions. Happy modding :thumbup:
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sauprankul said:
^^^ this
How would anybody feed their flashaholism without that capability?
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I love Titanium backup. It's saved my butt more then a few times! Same with cerberus!
Hey all, thought I would provide an update about s-off and post ROM flash. I tried a few times with revone to get s-off but no dice. After doing my research it seems due to the rom I have it won't work. I have a GE based rom. So I would say if you go through the root process you might as well do the s-off process before you flash the ROM.
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I too am coming from 6 years of iOS usage and was a die-hard Cydia users to add tweaks and themes.
But the android rooting scene is too Geeky for me. lots of places to go wrong. have been going through a ton of tutorials lately. But scared of rooting simply because i will lose my Warranty. HTC is not quite a reliable brand as i have come to know..especially with One and the famous camera tint issue. (i got a replacement for the same issue). So a bit scared.
So is there anyway we can root and keep it all stock. I mean even if unroot and lock the bootloader, it will show Relocked instead of Locked. Will the service centre people let it pass. I am dying to install ViperOne Rom for the amazing customisation it allows.
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I too am coming from 6 years of iOS usage and was a die-hard Cydia users to add tweaks and themes.
But the android rooting scene is too Geeky for me. lots of places to go wrong. have been going through a ton of tutorials lately. But scared of rooting simply because i will lose my Warranty. HTC is not quite a reliable brand as i have come to know..especially with One and the famous camera tint issue. (i got a replacement for the same issue). So a bit scared.
So is there anyway we can root and keep it all stock. I mean even if unroot and lock the bootloader, it will show Relocked instead of Locked. Will the service centre people let it pass. I am dying to install ViperOne Rom for the amazing customisation it allows.
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We share similar history, I always liked the openness of Android, but I never found a device that was as well built as an iPhone until the One. I was tempted with the nexus 4, but not sold.
I fortunately did not have any issues with my One, sorry you did
Not please remember I'm not an expert, but I understand you can go all the way back to stock, if you s-off.
Research revone. Or moonshine tools to s-off. As long as you do a nandroid backup you can always go back to how you were. Grab titanium backup and backup all your data and take your time. But you can root and leave it 100% stock and just take advantage of root only goodies.
I'm sold on Sinless GE 4.3 ROM, it's fantastic and the dev who maintains it is great. So go unlock and root it, backup backup and backup. Good luck and have fun
Jack
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fz1jmp said:
We share similar history, I always liked the openness of Android, but I never found a device that was as well built as an iPhone until the One. I was tempted with the nexus 4, but not sold.
I fortunately did not have any issues with my One, sorry you did
Not please remember I'm not an expert, but I understand you can go all the way back to stock, if you s-off.
Research revone. Or moonshine tools to s-off. As long as you do a nandroid backup you can always go back to how you were. Grab titanium backup and backup all your data and take your time. But you can root and leave it 100% stock and just take advantage of root only goodies.
I'm sold on Sinless GE 4.3 ROM, it's fantastic and the dev who maintains it is great. So go unlock and root it, backup backup and backup. Good luck and have fun
Jack
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Hey jack more than build quality i liked the way OS is optimised for the hardware. Anyway leaving iOS out of the moment.
But i dont think you can get the Bootloader to have "locked" written again. It will still come as "Re-locked" which is a giveaway i believe. Anyway i have my exams and i will be caught up with them till November. So after that maybe i will join the Flashing-wagon.
I am currently on system version 9.30.1 and I am rooted. My boot loader isn't unlocked and I don't have a custom recovery installed. I am wondering if being rooted will cause issues once the 4.4 update is released. And if so how do I remove root?
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Well, since you are rooted, chances are you have probably removed some of the bloat that was installed on your phone by your provider. If this is so, you won't even be able to update to 4.4 unless you first return your phone completely to stock, ie add all the bloat back in. If your phone is not stock, you can remove updater.apk and you won't even be prompted for the update.
If you are completely stock and rooted, when you accept the update to 4.4, once the upgrade completes, you simply will not be rooted anymore. This is true whether you have a locked or an unlocked bootloader. With the unlocked bootloader and a custom recovery, it may be possible to have root if the one in the recovery works with 4.4 Otherwise, we will all have to wait until if/when root becomes available for Android 4.4 and our phone. This is why it is often recommended that you wait to update until the devs have a chance to tear the update apart and look for usable exploits.
Some what on the same topic... I made a back up after unlocking before doing anything... Could I restore said back up flash stock recovery voodoo my root and ota... Or would I still have to rsd then ota?
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ezknives said:
Some what on the same topic... I made a back up after unlocking before doing anything... Could I restore said back up flash stock recovery voodoo my root and ota... Or would I still have to rsd then ota?
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Yes, you can flash your backup and then take the OTA, but you don't need voodoo if you're unlocked. Re-flash recovery and then flash root.
netizenmt said:
Well, since you are rooted, chances are you have probably removed some of the bloat that was installed on your phone by your provider. If this is so, you won't even be able to update to 4.4 unless you first return your phone completely to stock, ie add all the bloat back in. If your phone is not stock, you can remove updater.apk and you won't even be prompted for the update.
If you are completely stock and rooted, when you accept the update to 4.4, once the upgrade completes, you simply will not be rooted anymore. This is true whether you have a locked or an unlocked bootloader. With the unlocked bootloader and a custom recovery, it may be possible to have root if the one in the recovery works with 4.4 Otherwise, we will all have to wait until if/when root becomes available for Android 4.4 and our phone. This is why it is often recommended that you wait to update until the devs have a chance to tear the update apart and look for usable exploits.
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Thanks, I am rooted and didnt touch any of the bloatware. I bought the phone in an non-unlockable state, 9.30.1, so I just want some form of kit-kat on this. In an un-xda like fashion im probably going to just take the update ASAP.
AKShotgun said:
Thanks, I am rooted and didnt touch any of the bloatware. I bought the phone in an non-unlockable state, 9.30.1, so I just want some form of kit-kat on this. In an un-xda like fashion im probably going to just take the update ASAP.
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Being locked & rooted you will lose root perhaps forever.
aviwdoowks said:
Being locked & rooted you will lose root perhaps forever.
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A lot of guess work.. considering first off that 4.4 hasn't been provided. If it was provided will you be the first to jump?
theemaster said:
A lot of guess work.. considering first off that 4.4 hasn't been provided. If it was provided will you be the first to jump?
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I have 442 already and boy is it fast!
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But I cannot root on the X that is.
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I have 442 already and boy is it fast!
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But I cannot root on the X that is.
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You don't say....
theemaster said:
A lot of guess work.. considering first off that 4.4 hasn't been provided. If it was provided will you be the first to jump?
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Take a look in the S5 and X forums to get the proof you need about KK being hard to root.
AK, I would seriously wait until the devs get hold of the update. Let the devs take the OTA and pull it apart so they can start providing ROMs for SafeStrap. Then, update to KK via SS.
My plan is to go all stock and accept the update IF it ever actually gets released. As my bootloader is unlocked, I always have the option of reflashing recovery on it, make a backup of 4.4, and then run it or some other rom backup as I choose. Also, I'm curious to know, if there is supposed to be superuser built into TWRP, will that allow 4.4 to be rooted anyway, or not?
As you can see, I know just enough to be dangerous, lol, but as long as I can make calls, it's all good.
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My plan is to go all stock and accept the update IF it ever actually gets released. As my bootloader is unlocked, I always have the option of reflashing recovery on it, make a backup of 4.4, and then run it or some other rom backup as I choose. Also, I'm curious to know, if there is supposed to be superuser built into TWRP, will that allow 4.4 to be rooted anyway, or not?
As you can see, I know just enough to be dangerous, lol, but as long as I can make calls, it's all good.
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As long as your bootloader is unlocked, all you need to do after you update to the OTA is re-flash recovery and then superuser to regain root.
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My plan is to go all stock and accept the update IF it ever actually gets released. As my bootloader is unlocked, I always have the option of reflashing recovery on it, make a backup of 4.4, and then run it or some other rom backup as I choose. Also, I'm curious to know, if there is supposed to be superuser built into TWRP, will that allow 4.4 to be rooted anyway, or not?
As you can see, I know just enough to be dangerous, lol, but as long as I can make calls, it's all good.
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I don't think there is an "if" in it. The executive posted on google+ about receiving the update in the next couple weeks.
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I don't think there is an "if" in it. The executive posted on google+ about receiving the update in the next couple weeks.
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Well its been a few weeks since he said that. Having had a similar situation with Sony and the Xperia Play and ICS, I can tell you the average executive's word isn't worth spit. And then there's the whole Verizon involvement which always adds another level of delay. I'm hoping I'm wrong, but I would be surprised if we get KK in a few Months, never mind weeks.
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netizenmt said:
Well its been a few weeks since he said that. Having had a similar situation with Sony and the Xperia Play and ICS, I can tell you the average executive's word isn't worth spit. And then there's the whole Verizon involvement which always adds another level of delay. I'm hoping I'm wrong, but I would be surprised if we get KK in a few Months, never mind weeks.
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Sorry if it seems like it im not trying to fight you here but he commented on his google+ post saying Razr M and HD KitKat is already at Verizon labs. So im guessing about a month.
I look forward to being wrong. I really hope we get it in the next few months. I've noticed that each revision of Android has made the need to develop custom ROMs less necessary for many phones. Of course that won't lessen our desire or enthusiasm to push the envelope. But when I think how far we have come from my first Android, the LG Ally and Eclair... There was a phone that was crap stock, but once unlocked and customized, it was a very decent phone for its time and price point. Today, its harder to see the need or difference between stock and custom ROMs, other than removal of bloat and occasionally some new bell or whistle. Still, I can't seem to resist their siren's call any more than the rest of you. Which is why I'm running CM11. Lol!
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Total Noob here as evident in this being my first post, but googling about how to NOT installl this Kit Kat update that has popped up on my Verizon Note 3 today has brought me here.
Is there any way I can disable this update from happening? I have heard great things about rooting and custom ROMS, and have heard that updating may jeopardize this.
So can I turn off Verizon's ability to update my phone? I delayed this, but my Note 3 wants to install the files it downloaded at 2 a.m.
Can someone give me a crash course to help me, and/or a quick way to prevent this?
Many Thanks.
Step 1 - Root your phone
hugenut said:
Total Noob here as evident in this being my first post, but googling about how to NOT installl this Kit Kat update that has popped up on my Verizon Note 3 today has brought me here.
Is there any way I can disable this update from happening? I have heard great things about rooting and custom ROMS, and have heard that updating may jeopardize this.
So can I turn off Verizon's ability to update my phone? I delayed this, but my Note 3 wants to install the files it downloaded at 2 a.m.
Can someone give me a crash course to help me, and/or a quick way to prevent this?
Many Thanks.
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This method has worked for me twice. Latest was today:
youtube.com/watch?v=ukajWoxI3Tg&index=12&list=PLSQtCJEhU8pillzM7CZlSqFwApt7tKeWV
SKIP ALL THE STUFF ABOUT ODIN AND FLASHING FIRMWARE!!!! If you are stock JB, you don't need to do this part.
Then to get all the Chinese stuff off your phone, follow this tutorial:
youtube.com/watch?v=L5ebYM9CDkI&index=13&list=PLSQtCJEhU8pillzM7CZlSqFwApt7tKeWV
Finally, Install titanium backup, and freeze the program that is trying to force and over the air update. I came to the forum looking for the name of that file. Best I can find so far is: LocalFOTA v2_1308_1_1 -- but there my be others. Come back to the forum when you're rooted and search for it.
Best of luck!
hugenut said:
Total Noob here as evident in this being my first post, but googling about how to NOT installl this Kit Kat update that has popped up on my Verizon Note 3 today has brought me here.
Is there any way I can disable this update from happening? I have heard great things about rooting and custom ROMS, and have heard that updating may jeopardize this.
So can I turn off Verizon's ability to update my phone? I delayed this, but my Note 3 wants to install the files it downloaded at 2 a.m.
Can someone give me a crash course to help me, and/or a quick way to prevent this?
Many Thanks.
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The best way to not update it, is to not update it. It isn't automatic. But after updating mine, my phone is better than ever. Noticeably faster transitions & animations, and great battery. Everything works better with 4.4.2 than it did with 4.3.
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BlastTyrantKM said:
The best way to not update it, is to not update it. It isn't automatic. But after updating mine, my phone is better than ever. Noticeably faster transitions & animations, and great battery. Everything works better with 4.4.2 than it did with 4.3.
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Im having issues with gmail. With 4.3, if you zoomed and tapped it automatically fit to screen......now it doesnt line wrap.......cant find a single way to fix, ergo my visit here to xda Are you having any issues with line wrap since updating? I know with the browser google purposely turned that off with their webview, but i didnt know that extended to gmail
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Im having issues with gmail. With 4.3, if you zoomed and tapped it automatically fit to screen......now it doesnt line wrap.......cant find a single way to fix, ergo my visit here to xda Are you having any issues with line wrap since updating? I know with the browser google purposely turned that off with their webview, but i didnt know that extended to gmail
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I don't use Gmail, so I don't know if it's working or not. I'm using Mailbox and it does have that feature and it works. Even has a multi-level zoom w/ text wrapping.
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BlastTyrantKM said:
I don't use Gmail, so I don't know if it's working or not. I'm using Mailbox and it does have that feature and it works. Even has a multi-level zoom w/ text wrapping.
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Yes, mailbox is fantastic and it does have the autofit feature........unfortunately its gmail only so if you have an outlook account etc you cant use it
thanks for the input....much appreciated
hugenut said:
Total Noob here as evident in this being my first post, but googling about how to NOT installl this Kit Kat update that has popped up on my Verizon Note 3 today has brought me here.
Is there any way I can disable this update from happening? I have heard great things about rooting and custom ROMS, and have heard that updating may jeopardize this.
So can I turn off Verizon's ability to update my phone? I delayed this, but my Note 3 wants to install the files it downloaded at 2 a.m.
Can someone give me a crash course to help me, and/or a quick way to prevent this?
Many Thanks.
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The only way you can really stop it is to root and delete a file called sdm 1.0. That is the update checker. But if you are going that far you might as well install a custom rom. There are several good kk roms available now. The biggest thing to keep in mind is that if you ever want to root, you can't take the ota. There will probably never be a root method for the ota version. The leaked nc2 build is kk that is rooted by default and is the base for all available kk roms.
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If you need detailed instructions on rooting and upgrading, check out this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2740466
This guy is awesome and has the best instructional threads for those in need
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Tidewater said:
The only way you can really stop it is to root and delete a file called sdm 1.0. That is the update checker. But if you are going that far you might as well install a custom rom. There are several good kk roms available now. The biggest thing to keep in mind is that if you ever want to root, you can't take the ota. There will probably never be a root method for the ota version. The leaked nc2 build is kk that is rooted by default and is the base for all available kk roms.
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If you need detailed instructions on rooting and upgrading, check out this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2740466
This guy is awesome and has the best instructional threads for those in need
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That worked for me... finally a fix thanks so much
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gotghost29 said:
That worked for me... finally a fix thanks so much
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You are soooo very welcome
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