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Now before I begin, I know there's already a TouchWiz tablet mode in the development forum based off of the the best qualities of the N7000 and the GTab 7.7 (both of which I own), and I've tried it already; it's very exciting development! However, as much as I like this tweak, and as cool as it is (credit given where it's due), wouldn't it be even better if we could simply port a stock Note 10.1 ROM directly to the N7000? I know that the N7000's hardware isn't anywhere near as impressive as the quad-core 2gb beast that the 10.1 is, but the screen resolution of both is the same, and the N7000 is no slouch in the performance department even 1 year on, so maybe it's worth a try?
As I mentioned, I own both the Galaxy Tab 7.7 and the N7000. I love both devices. However, I primarily use the 7.7 as my daily driver, mainly because I prefer the tablet interface of Android vs the phone layout used in the stock Note. Thus, my N7000 has sat on my desk, more often than not, as more of a test bed and frankly as more of a toy to use for playing around with all the ROM's that are out there for it (again, credit where it's due!). I've already played around with all the tablet mode options out there; everything from AOSP/AOKP in tablet mode, to the lovely Paranoid hybrid ROM, and so on. However, even then, not everything is as it should be. The S-Pen functionality is greatly reduced, accessories such as MHL output and USB OTG don't always work, and hardware accelerated video playback is usually spotty. In short, it always seems to come close, but it's never quite a perfect fit; there's always something missing.
By porting the Note 10.1's stock TouchWiz to our Note, perhaps that may bring the best of all worlds: a proper TouchWiz tablet UX, with full S-Pen functionality, and all other stock features working properly as they were designed, not to mention the hovering mini-apps for simple things like accessing the dialer, messaging, S-Planner, etc.
If I could have that kind of experience on my current Note, not only would I be disinclined even to get the Note 2, but I think I might just sell my 7.7 as well!! This, for me, would truly be the best of both worlds, which is exactly what Samsung originally intended for the Note when the débuted it at last year's IFA 2011. Having that now would give the N7000 a whole new lease on life; I'm not about to give up on it yet!
What do you guys think?
I was thinking the same
ME TOO )))
Hmm, good to know I wasn't alone! Now, if only we could get the attention of some interested developers! I'd do it myself if I had the know-how (and the free time!)
Please link the touchwiz tablet thread for note
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Please link the touchwiz tablet thread for note
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Here ya go!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1777500
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Seriously, the sooner can do this the better! Or teach me how, and I'll do it
What an awesome idea. I'd love to have something like LiquidBlack ROM but able to run S Planner which I love. And if the perfection of NoteCore kernel were included then it would make my Note into the phone it should have been back in November 2011 when I bought it!
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Now, the more visibility this thread can get to developers, the better!
You guys really?
It'll be completely irrelevant to port Note 10.1 ROM to OG Note.
Too small a text to work on, and simply stupid.
Please have a brain before requesting our developers such a dumb request.
id like it too A fully functioning stable TW tablet ROM.
Sounds cool !
since we got the note 2 and s3 UI and features, i think we have it all now with LRQ update
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since we got the note 2 and s3 UI and features, i think we have it all now with LRQ update
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Yeah, but the Note 2 and the S3 UI's are still all just PHONE features. The Note and the Note 2 are still just big phones with pens from a UI standpoint. While I'm not knocking that in and of itself (for many folks, retaining the phone UI on a large screen is preferable), I am pointing out that it still qualifies the Note(2) as just a really big phone, not a really small tablet.
All I'm lobbying for here is a proper TouchWiz option for the N7000 to be that really small tablet (with all the functionality and driver support of other TouchWiz builds) instead of a really big phone.
Some people prefer the phone UI, others the tablet UI. I don't want to sacrifice any functionality at all if I want to use a tablet UI out of preference. The same choice should be offered to everyone else too!
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You guys really?
It'll be completely irrelevant to port Note 10.1 ROM to OG Note.
Too small a text to work on, and simply stupid.
Please have a brain before requesting our developers such a dumb request.
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What would be a solution to have a ROM that you can connect in 160 dpi to your monitor with a MHL ?
As far as a I know aosp/aokp does not work, and stock devs managed to lower down to 240 max
Regards
Sounds like a really good idea, I hope some great dev make this possible.
The Note 10.1 has issues with multi-app performance (eg the apps aren't truly running simultaneously). Also, this is limited to only specific apps which can work multi-screen.
I don't really see what the benefit would be here. Plus doesn't it have more in common with the N7100 than the N7000?
Not much benefit for a ton of work which will likely be found useless upstream.
Also lately there have been very few dev projects for the Note 10.1 in general (take a look at their dev subforum)
Guyz i have a budget of 30K and options i made out are Nexus 4, Xperia Z/ZL or Samsung galaxy S4.
Can you give suggestions??
My requirement is : Music like Xperia phones, Camera sensor like Xperia phones, Display like AMOLED or S-LCD.
My last device was Xperia SP and it totally sucked. Pathetic display. Pathetic camera. Sold out after 10 days use!!!
Go for nexus if you want pure stock ROM
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I had a Z and now I have a S4. Worst decission ever. Going back to Z.
In the end, it's a matter of personal preferences. I like the XZ because of the premium feeling, music (I listen a lot of music during the day), and exclusivity. I have seen S3 and S4 all around the place I live, and if I pay a lot of money for a gadget, I want to have at least a little exclusivity.
About the screen, I like the one on the XZ. The thing with the viewing angles is non existent at this point.
The camera has been greatly improved.
You should check the XZ forum and read about that phone in there.
I haven't had a Nexus and I don't like it (Find it too boring), so I couldn't tell you about it.
Anyway, with any of the options you'll have a great device.
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I have the Nexus 4 and the S4 .
The Screen of the S4 is better, the Battery is a lot of better , for the N4 there are tons of roms and kernel out there, this is one thing i am missing here ( i am a flash junkie, only AOSP Roms and Kernel )
All in all , both are great Phones. Cant realy say wich one is better. I keep both Phones.
xperia z cabt even compete with s2, it has the worst washed screen, terrible battery life and super stupid screen response. .. used it for 3 days and I couldn't stand it anymore
n4 isn't bad at all but you shld consider that on screen soft buttons will make your typing really hard ( pressing on home button instead of space alot)
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Well. I had nexus 4 and I must say that it was the smoothest and most fluent experience. It felt like the software was actually optimized for the hardware. Ok one or two stutters mostly with third party apps like Facebook. But...i now use a i9505 with 4.3 GE build JRV66V which is incredible. I now have a better nexus experience, a much better camera (compared with the nexus 4 ) and great battery life. Can't say anything about xperia z/zl other than to assume that the same SOC/GPU/RAM with the nexus 4 but with a bigger screen and also a higher resolution, cannot bring a better os experience than a nexus one. The differences are in looks, Oem software and personal affinities.
Hope it helped. Cheers.
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IMO just stay away from XZ/ZL crappy display - bad cam - tiny speaker
Nexus very good device with fast updates but it had bad cam with no SD + glass back ( chance of breaking the glass x2 ) , no 1080p display
GS4 : I9500 more powerful CPU than I9505 , games work better than I9505 , better DAC , better Battery , better cam sensor
I9505: better AOSP support - more powerful GPU than I9500
BTW Htc One is good option too
my 0.2 $
I am using s4 9500 htc one and iphone5, as you can see i am a gadget maniac.
Didnot use nexus 4 so i cannot post anything about it.
I just sold my XZ 2 days ago. For me;
if you want to play games and use big screen go for s4
if you want something you can daily use go for Htc.
Htc one is very stable and no lags.
s4 has so many lags (for me) and not much rom support like 9505.
if you want to shoot good pics go for s4, htc camera is totally crap (big failure).
Htc one is handy you can use easily with one hand.
Both screens are excellent both 1080p.
Hope helps
cheers;
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I am waiting for Note 3 'cause i was keen admirer of note2. If you can wait just about a month then go for note 3
You meant i9500 has poor roms choice,the i9505 has as much as the One,I am using sometimes the launcher + weather widget from XZ one my One thanks to codex and it rules!
The 13mp of the S4 is awesome though and make me want to swap from my One to S4
if youre going to use the S4 then get the 9505
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I had a Z and now I have a S4. Worst decission ever. Going back to Z.
In the end, it's a matter of personal preferences. I like the XZ because of the premium feeling, music (I listen a lot of music during the day), and exclusivity. I have seen S3 and S4 all around the place I live, and if I pay a lot of money for a gadget, I want to have at least a little exclusivity.
About the screen, I like the one on the XZ. The thing with the viewing angles is non existent at this point.
The camera has been greatly improved.
You should check the XZ forum and read about that phone in there.
I haven't had a Nexus and I don't like it (Find it too boring), so I couldn't tell you about it.
Anyway, with any of the options you'll have a great device.
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how is the battery life on the xperia z since the latest update
I got the 9505 my wife the Nexus 4.
Being honest I wouldnt buy the S4 again.
One big plus is the cam (only on stock rom!). But it is so damn lagging. Cant believe this by a so called flagship. I really love the "nexus experience" of the N4. The N4 has also a great housing, in my opinion better than the S4. The screen of the S4 inside buildings is great, outside the amoled is not bright enough.
Maybe you should check the Moto X if available in your country.
Zurko said:
I got the 9505 my wife the Nexus 4.
Being honest I wouldnt buy the S4 again.
One big plus is the cam (only on stock rom!). But it is so damn lagging. Cant believe this by a so called flagship. I really love the "nexus experience" of the N4. The N4 has also a great housing, in my opinion better than the S4. The screen of the S4 inside buildings is great, outside the amoled is not bright enough.
Maybe you should check the Moto X if available in your country.
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a i9505 running a Google edition rom flies like a hawk, if any of the S4 variants lag is because of the crapware that comes with the touchwiz Ui
touchwiz is quite a resource hog
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negrobembon said:
a i9505 running a Google edition rom flies like a hawk, if any of the S4 variants lag is because of the crapware that comes with the touchwiz Ui
touchwiz is quite a resource hog
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Correct. Unfortunately the Cam isnt that good with GE.
For 1 S4 you get 2 N4. This is why for me the N4 is the better option
The n4 performs really good but speaker sucks on it.i have gs4 but it does lag on touchwiz rom.u can juat flash aosp rom and your good. Now the htc one performs really well I really recommend that phobe
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Used both The HTC One and the Galaxy S4 S600 version... if you want something with a better camera and slightly better battery life go with the S4... Everything else go with the HTC One. The HTC One, despite running 4.1.2 is as smooth and quick as my SGS4 on a 4.3 Nexus ROM. For development, the HTC One has more kernels and ROMs too.
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how is the battery life on the xperia z since the latest update
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XZ' s battery life is good but with the update i felt little bit of more juice in stamina mode. But of course when screen is on juice runs out more quickly.
S4 > Htc One > XZ . For my statistics these are the battery times.
I tried the N4 then the S4.
The S4 is better for me ! More expensive but more better !
Sorry for my english
lol the xperia phones are a disgrace.. why would sony put such a bad screen on their flagship device?
i have a galaxy s4 myself running on the latest touchwiz rom, it rarely lags , the screen is amazing except for the "ghosting/smearing issue" everything else is great
im gonna be switching to the GE 4.3 rom when its available (probably tomorrow) :good:
I currently own the i9500 variant, but with the overheating and the dissatisfaction I want to change my phone.
Shall I go with the i9505 or the htc one ?
I need real life answers not gimmicks or benchmarks
Thank you all in advnace
They are pretty equivalent specs wise. The HTC One is a beautiful device, but it's really down to your own personal preference. There's things to factor in:
Do you need a removable battery? S4 has one, HTC one does not.
Aliminium body: The HTC One build is lovely and it feels great in your hand.The polycarbonate is more expensive on the S4 (afaik) but feels a bit plascicy and cheaper.
Do you need SD card storage? The S4 has this.
Do you like HTC sense or Touchwiz? Sense 5 is very pretty but I find the lack of customisation a bit restrictive, but you may love it.
The Samsung has a slightly bigger screen and is lighter.
The colours on the S4 are very bright and almost too saturated, but I like that, I'm a fan of AMOLED screens as I'm pretty colour blind.
Basically both are brilliant devices. I prefer my S4 over the HTC One, but I can see why it's getting such great feedback.
If you know anyone with the phones give them both a try for a few minutes.
Edit: Just to add you could always change your ROM on either device, there's a Sense 5 port in the works for the S4....
I had i9500 then went for HTC One and finally settled for I9505
I miss S4 features and benefits a lot while using One
Htc one is very limited thought the screen & beats sound is brilliant
Both are good devices S4 i9505 may be little slow sometime but still a must have device.. atleast I don't regret having it now
My Vote i9505
Cheers
Hi im a gs3 user and want to own gs4...but ive heard many problems concerning this phone, like random reboots and freezing while call..also autorotate problems after uodate to kitkat
Does these problems can be solved with customs roms? Or should i stay with my s3?
Thnksssssss a looooooooooooooooooottttt and sorry if its repeated thread....bcz im in rush. ..
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Hi im a gs3 user and want to own gs4...but ive heard many problems concerning this phone, like random reboots and freezing while call..also autorotate problems after uodate to kitkat
Does these problems can be solved with customs roms? Or should i stay with my s3?
Thnksssssss a looooooooooooooooooottttt and sorry if its repeated thread....bcz im in rush. ..
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I had a S3 i747 and I was pretty satisfied with it, I had it with CM11 and just love it badly and think that an S4 upgrade will be unnecesary because I didn't see why the people get excited when it was first launched.
Recently I had the oportunity of hold a S4 in my hands and I see that is not larger than a S3 and I liked so much its design, the size of the LED button, its screen size and the quadcore procesosr improvement also was good so I decide to go for a S4. I bought a second hand i337m S4 for about US 300 after sold my i747 in about US 250 so it was a no thinking situation for me. I haven't noticed any annoying bug on stock rom, the camera app was pretty cool with plenty of effects and WatchOn app was great to control your TV. I'm a hardened CM fan so I can't wait to see it on my cellphone so I installed it and so far (I have CM for about 5 days now) the only bug I have see is that while the phone is charging, you can't power on the cellphone (you just have to disconnect it and power on, not a big deal), for TV control I use Peel Smart Remote App and it works just as good as Samsung's app
In conclusion: I would say that if you feel good with your S3 you have no particular need for buy a S4 (probably get the same experience with some improvements) but if you have the oportunity of upgrade at a good price, then go for it
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Hi im a gs3 user and want to own gs4...but ive heard many problems concerning this phone, like random reboots and freezing while call..also autorotate problems after uodate to kitkat
Does these problems can be solved with customs roms? Or should i stay with my s3?
Thnksssssss a looooooooooooooooooottttt and sorry if its repeated thread....bcz im in rush. ..
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Hi,
some users have problems with Kitkat and some don't.
In general custom roms are running better than the original system. My guess. I'm very satisfied with S4 developed custom roms
It is your choice. There aren't any big hardware changes except full HD screen and camera quality.
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cristianpark said:
I had a S3 i747 and I was pretty satisfied with it, I had it with CM11 and just love it badly and think that an S4 upgrade will be unnecesary because I didn't see why the people get excited when it was first launched.
Recently I had the oportunity of hold a S4 in my hands and I see that is not larger than a S3 and I liked so much its design, the size of the LED button, its screen size and the quadcore procesosr improvement also was good so I decide to go for a S4. I bought a second hand i337m S4 for about US 300 after sold my i747 in about US 250 so it was a no thinking situation for me. I haven't noticed any annoying bug on stock rom, the camera app was pretty cool with plenty of effects and WatchOn app was great to control your TV. I'm a hardened CM fan so I can't wait to see it on my cellphone so I installed it and so far (I have CM for about 5 days now) the only bug I have see is that while the phone is charging, you can't power on the cellphone (you just have to disconnect it and power on, not a big deal), for TV control I use Peel Smart Remote App and it works just as good as Samsung's app
In conclusion: I would say that if you feel good with your S3 you have no particular need for buy a S4 (probably get the same experience with some improvements) but if you have the oportunity of upgrade at a good price, then go for it
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thanks for yr reply, i very appreciate it ... nice if y didnt have issues with it, some people does... bcz there are some who has the issues that i have mentioned before, and i thought they will be resolved by a custom rom....
thanks again................
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Hi,
some users have problems with Kitkat and some don't.
In general custom roms are running better than the original system. My guess. I'm very satisfied with S4 developed custom roms
It is your choice. There aren't any big hardware changes except full HD screen and camera quality.
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thanks for yr reply...... yes custom roms are amazing... ill buy a S4 and see....hope no problems
thanks a lottttttttttttttttttt
I had S3 and I have now S4 (i9500) with Kitkat update, S4 have 2 GB Memory (S3 only 1 GB) & it is more smooth than S3, S4 also doesn't lag as much as S3 do.
in general S4 is a nice update for your current S3, but if you want my advice try to get S5, the screen in S5 is way more accurate and better than S4 screen, the battery also is more powerful.
it depends on how much you are ready to pay $.
Hi i also upgraded from s3 to s4 last October, i would. Recommend You to upgrade to s4 as it is a really good and compact device with 1080p display and thin bezels, unlike the ugly s5 which isn't compact.
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Hi
I am considering buying a new phone - Note4 (I have Note2 right now) and I went to a shop with most modern phones to compare. I was focusing mainly on Samsung's phones and I noticed there are huge differences between ROMs even when the android version is the same.
Galaxy Alpha's ROM has a different theme and in general the phone works definitely faster than Note 4 or Galaxy S4 or Galaxy S5. I noticed f.e. that finally there is no delay when switching between the phone tab and the contact tab (previously looked like separate apps on Samsung's ROMs). It was not the case in the Note4! Alpha has android 4.4.4 ROM and so the Galaxy S4/Note4 which is slower than the Alpha. Galaxy S5 UI is faster than Note4's but it has 4.4.2 preinstalled. I tried two different Note4 phones and the same results. I don't even mention the design because Note4's touchwiz looks almost the same as the one delivered for Note2 with the latest update. Alpha's ROM looks much better.
Do you know what may be a reason?
Maybe thay platformed their products to some lines: Note, S ...
With a ton of Spem features they would not want rebuild bases on latest UI like Alpha. I think they based on Note series to dev more features, tweak more to match demand, business plan or something else...
My wife is using Note 2 and I can say that you will enjoy Note 4 which has many things upgraded from Note 2. A big step.
We will have another big step by next Lollipop update
Yes that's correct that there are improvements comparing the original Note2's ROM version to Note4. The problem is that I am completely not satisfied with the Note2. It's so slow it is generally not usable without flashing with the cyanogenmod or something else. I want to buy a device I can use without rooting it at the first day and loosing a warranty. I was quite happy with the speed of the Alpha but completely not happy with what I saw in the Note 4. The problem is that it seems that the Alpha is the only Samsung's device right now which works without any jitters but it has so weak battery it won't last a full day when using more intensively. Maybe as I work in the IT I am less patient with the hardware but I could imagine the original Note4 hardware with a stock ROM would be probably much better.