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[Q] Nightlies as a decent replacement for 7.1 Stable

Hey guys,
I grabbed myself an NC about a week ago. I've put in CM7.1 right after the first try of the stock firmware.
After going through the forum threads and reading all the (mostly) positive feedback of users trying out nightlies, I'm considering of putting one myself instead of the CM7.1 Stable.
Question is, though, whether I can except a user experience that will be at least equivalent with one of the current nightlies.
I know the question is an oxymoron itself, since nightlies cannot guarantee any "stability". However, as I have concluded from reading many threads here, they do have their virtues.
So, after clarifying that I'm aware of how absurd it is to expect a definite answer, I wondered if there is currently a nightly build that can offer me an at least equivalent (and preferably better) user experience than the current 7.1?
Thanks in advance.

That all depends on what you use your NC for or how you use it. If you just want to use it to read, watch Flash videos and/or other videos, play games and work on documents and stuff then I would say you've already got that with CM 7.1 stable.
However, if you want to get in the trenches with a CM9 nightly group and assist with discovering issues and/or bugs and having to flash new updates or fixes or "hacks" but not really get full use out of your NC that you have today until they get to a stable version then you could certainly go try one of them.
It just all depends on what kind of "user" you are of your NC.

Well, I need my NC in a usable state, since it's my primary (and only) tablet device.
By 'usable' I mean that I'd like a responsive UI, WIFI and browsing capabilities; games would be alright though I'm not a hardcore user (i.e. I don't o/c).
I would love to contribute with reporting bugs, as long as my NC could cover those basics.
Is it possible to boot the nightlies from a SD, while keeping my 7.1 on the emmc?

I've yet to try a CM 7.x nightly that left my device in an unusable state. I have had issues with the Android Market not working, spurious display of cell signal and other relatively minor annoyances. Most of those become apparent in the first hour or so, so if they're a problem, I can easily roll back in a few minutes.
I am a big fan of CM 7.2 RC0 Mirage.

The most stable is 7.1, if you want a everyday driver with no problems then 7.1 is what you want. Ics9 nightlys are in progress but are pretty stable as well, its better to flash the rom and see for yourself first hand...make sure you backup first. Also flash the gapps, I've been running ics for a couple weeks with no problems. Hope this helps
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I would highly recommend at least the Mirage Kang CM7 builds. I have also jumped into the CM9 nightlies and haven't been disappointed. ICS is really slick and my NC is very usable. I can't say for sure about all apps/games, but the ones I use (mainly reading & web surfing) work great.
Like previous people said, backup your current rom, and try flashing either the latest Mirage CM7 build, or the latest CM9 nightly. I would almost recommend trying out CM9 since that's the future, and you can go back to CM7 if you come across a show-stopper.

Yeah, you can dual boot different roms, there are a few threads on that although I've never done it myself.
I just switched from CM7 n253 to the Mirage KANG builds and have enjoyed the experience and would recommend it. I would not recommend n253 as there were some bugs that really bothered me, but they're fixed in the KANG build and it seems to be reasonably stable. Most of what I do is reading / internet browsing / music streaming.

I really am greatful for all your patience about my very obscure demands
BTW, if I do get it on emmc (not dual-boot), can I use a backup app (for example: Titanium) to backup my 7.1 data and pass it to the nightlies, or will it be incompatible with those?

I believe you should be able to backup the app data. Going from 7.1 to the Mirage CM7 builds will be safe.
I actually did install CM9 over CM7 without any major issues. There were a couple apps that would force close but clearing their data or just removing/reinstalling seemed to fix that.

What method did you use when you installed CM7 to Mirage CM7?
Also, is there a method of doing that via Rom Manager?

boyoboyo said:
What method did you use when you installed CM7 to Mirage CM7?
Also, is there a method of doing that via Rom Manager?
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Download mirages build put it on your sdcard, go into Rom Manager and select install from sdcard select mirage's zip and voila. You can update it by just wiping davlik cache, if you encounter any problems it might be wise to do a clean install, which you can do from Rom Manager too, selecting to wipe system and data. Remember to always backup your apps using titanium backup and/or backing your rom.

[Q] Which ROM for Defy+?

Hi,
for one year I owned Defy. No it broke down and I purchased Defy+. I was very happy with CM 7.2 RC1 ROM. Now I'm in doubts which ROM should I flash. I heard CM7 has problems with camera and battery on Defy+ and in CM9 ROMs doesn't work Opera or Chrome browsers, which is a major issue for me.
Which ROM would you suggest for Defy+ (2.3.5 official ROM)?

javlada said:
Hi,
for one year I owned Defy. No it broke down and I purchased Defy+. I was very happy with CM 7.2 RC1 ROM. Now I'm in doubts which ROM should I flash. I heard CM7 has problems with camera and battery on Defy+ and in CM9 ROMs doesn't work Opera or Chrome browsers, which is a major issue for me.
Which ROM would you suggest for Defy+ (2.3.5 official ROM)?
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Try the latest cm72 nightly by Quarx, I'm using it on my Defy+, very stable and fast.
http://quarx2k.ru

I'm running it now. It is really very stable and fast. The only issue I discovered so far is that camera picture is upside down.

javlada said:
I'm running it now. It is really very stable and fast. The only issue I discovered so far is that camera picture is upside down.
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I don't have this issue. Maybe a factory reset or a reflash would help.

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nsm1234 said:
I don't have this issue. Maybe a factory reset or a reflash would help.
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great`.nice boat.

I just got CM9 4.0.4 to work and I must say that its great! Well only had it a short time but it looks great its better looks and usability. Only thing swype doesnt work but slideIT does not as good but it works.
Cant comment on to much else ATM, Opera mini next works on it for me, not sure about the full version I mainly access the net at home and opera mini has always done what I needed away from home so I cant complain

Hi,
is it safe to use CMW with this nightly, if i have rooted stock 2.3.4 ROM? Or do i have flash some kernel before?
Tried MS2Ginger, but it doesnt suit for me ...

You can also use the Whiterabbit, 7.2 cm based

I use MS2Ginger, in my opnion is the best rom...

kelbygreen said:
I just got CM9 4.0.4 to work and I must say that its great! Well only had it a short time but it looks great its better looks and usability. Only thing swype doesnt work but slideIT does not as good but it works.
Cant comment on to much else ATM, Opera mini next works on it for me, not sure about the full version I mainly access the net at home and opera mini has always done what I needed away from home so I cant complain
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You can use Swype beta . It worked for me.
Its free and all it needs is registration. If you get FC's go to manage apps for swype and wipe data and cache.

[Q] Lightweight and stable ROM for Defy+

Hey Folks,
after playing around a while mainly with CyanogenMod 10 built by Quarx,
I was dissatisfied with the stability and especially the speed of the Defy+.
After using an oldschool mobile for the last weeks I decided I might give the Defy one more chance (missing GoogleMail and Contacts).
I wondered whether I can expect a major speed boost in using for example CyanogenMod 7 or any other rom.
Also stability is important to me, as I experienced reboots and connection issues with CM10
So I realy don't need to many features, just a fast stable android.
(I believe a clean Android could totally satisfy these points, but I cant live with that bloated Motorola version..)
Do you have any recommendations/experience which other roms might meet my wishes?
Thanks in advance

Either CM7 or MS2Ginger should satisfy your needs. CM9 isn't that bad as well.

hotdog125 said:
Either CM7 or MS2Ginger should satisfy your needs. CM9 isn't that bad as well.
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I can't find the cm9...
The page i've have found has a wrong link to download page

MikBre said:
I can't find the cm9...
The page i've have found has a wrong link to download page
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I also experience major stability and speed issues with CM 10.2 (Android 4.3) by Quarx.
Telephony API crashes a lot wish always requires a reboot.
Or the phone somehow loses the SIM card and i have to enter the PIN again before the phone becomes usable again.
I'm not sure if I did something wrong during the flashing process, or if it just 'normal' like that.
In any case, my Nexus4 was stolen in the Gym and I need a stable replacement phone for a few weeks!
Ordered the N5 yesterday, but who knows when it will _really_ ship.

freezer2k said:
I also experience major stability and speed issues with CM 10.2 (Android 4.3) by Quarx.
Telephony API crashes a lot wish always requires a reboot.
Or the phone somehow loses the SIM card and i have to enter the PIN again before the phone becomes usable again.
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In my case just slow responses and several crash

hotdog125 said:
Either CM7 or MS2Ginger should satisfy your needs. CM9 isn't that bad as well.
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I've falshed the Cm9 from Cm10.2.
My phone was blocked at the motorola logo.
Then i've flashed the CM 10 (Android 4.1.2) and after some attempts my phone restore.
Is there something different with CM9?
Maybe i've made a mistake with the CM9 file?
i would like to try to test stability and performance.

freezer2k said:
I also experience major stability and speed issues with CM 10.2 (Android 4.3) by Quarx.
Telephony API crashes a lot wish always requires a reboot.
Or the phone somehow loses the SIM card and i have to enter the PIN again before the phone becomes usable again.
I'm not sure if I did something wrong during the flashing process, or if it just 'normal' like that.
In any case, my Nexus4 was stolen in the Gym and I need a stable replacement phone for a few weeks!
Ordered the N5 yesterday, but who knows when it will _really_ ship.
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I suggest you to try the version 10....is much more stable and performing

My suggestion is to test the latest Mokee

I'm on Mokee 4.2.2 right now (4.3 is not stable). I'm loving it; fairly stable and slightly faster than CM 10.1. But the Telephony issue is still there; there's no cure for it, unfortunately.
If stability as well as speed are important to you, give WIUI 3.1.27 a try. I used it for a few days, was blazing fast! But moved on as i can't live with gingerbread.
Links:
Mokee : http://old.androidfilehost.com/main/MoKee-OpenSource/jordanplus/
WIUI : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161110

The most stable and fast ROM's for me are CM 4.1.2 and SlimROM.
Just do a clean install from start doing full wipe, and use minimal gapps :good:.

I use the WIUI GB, for me is the best.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161110

MelquiXDA said:
I use the WIUI GB, for me is the best.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161110
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The most Lightweight and stable ROM for Defy+ as for me is stock CM7.

[Q] In your opinion, most stable L3 SDmerge rom?

Hi, I've been looking through the forums and have been rather overwhelmed by the number of roms available at this point.
Things have come a very long way since I first rooted the phone months ago, and I haven't kept up to date with development recently.
I would love to test out multiple different roms on the L3 to find the best, but it's actually my girlfriends phone and she hates me "messing" with the phone too much, and as you must know, rom shootouts can take hours of flashing and testing. (I used to spend a lot of time doing this on my old motorola defy)
This is obviously a matter of opinion, but could I get any guidance on what would be the most STABLE and LAG FREE rom for this device?
Features are not an issue, this is just down to stability. The current setup on this device is an SDmerge stock based rom (cannot remember which as it's been a while) and there has been a lot of hangs and reboots. (I mean a LOT, rebooting about 3 or more times a day)
These are two roms that I've been looking at as standing out from the crowd, so comparisons from people who've used both would be awesome.
Any better suggestions are also obviously welcome:
Latte ~ lightweight + LG UI 3.2
MiniCM9 UNOFFICIAL for L3 E400
Hopefully, if enough good material is posted in the thread, I will create a rundown of fast, stable roms for this device with links.
Thanks to all the devs for their work on this device, with particular mention to Gellmar for his work on SDmerge and custom kernel. You, sir are a genius!

MiniCM9.
Or if you want 2.3.6, plain stock version + SDmerge: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250759
See also http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2326340

Latte v2 for me

MiniCM9 for me.
Or Jelly cast v6 RII.

gellmar created 2 specified recovery.img for each cm9 sdmerge and stock sdmerge. but some roms contain this recoverys and some others is not. so normal cwm can fully working with sdmerge rom? and what thing gellmar changed in his recovery/ any can answer me. thanks

So it seems that Mini CM9 is a good one.
We installed Latte, but after about a day it started to noticeably hang and lag, with more than one reboot.
It was a clean install (wipe of user data, cache, davlik etc.) so the install wasn't the issue.
Mini CM9 worked well, but a few apps struggled to access the camera correctly. Namely: Snapchat which returns a green screen when trying to take a photo.
Currently running this: Cyanoid Rom
Which seems to work well, but as it is based on CM9 it carries the same issue regarding Snapchat and some other apps.
Is anyone aware of a fix for this camera issue?
Aside from that, I'd recommend the rom linked above, as much as MiniCM9. Seems stable, and feature rich.

Stupidchavs said:
Which seems to work well, but as it is based on CM9 it carries the same issue regarding Snapchat and some other apps.
Is anyone aware of a fix for this camera issue?
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Nope, all CM9 ROMs are affected. Green screen is also in Google Goggles. And Skype video-calling doesn't work, but works on 2.3.6 ROMs.

f3tus said:
Nope, all CM9 ROMs are affected. Green screen is also in Google Goggles. And Skype video-calling doesn't work, but works on 2.3.6 ROMs.
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Is this to do with the kernels interaction with the camera?
Or could it maybe be fixed by replacing camera app, or editing build.prop?
Would be great if someone could shine some light

Most Stable with a great SDmerge support is Cyanoid, because we realize 2 different versions, one for NOn-sdmerge devices and one edited for Sdmerge devices, with some improvements,and NOT just a step 4 copy/paste into zip, the differences flashing a rom and then step 4 or flashing a Sdmerge designed rom is the stability of it and its speed, you can choose the rom u want, because each one have its different features

In my opinion every stock 2.3.6 Rom is stable ...in ics time most stable I used is mini cm9 ....but I use stock ROM cuz camera quality is better any one know how improve cm9 camera????

zombienotdead said:
In my opinion every stock 2.3.6 Rom is stable ...in ics time most stable I used is mini cm9 ....but I use stock ROM cuz camera quality is better any one know how improve cm9 camera????
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Camera 360 takes much better images than the stock CM9 camera.
And I'm experiencing so much slowdown, and a tonne of reboots on stock,
Is this a common issue? Any fix to recommend?

In my opinion I'll opt out for Cyanoid. It's the far most the perfect one with awesome features. So, you could just give it a shot. I've using it for a couple of months now. And other one of the best ROM is RayogenMod. It's also pretty good. I've tried out both of them..

[Q] Most stable Defy ROM?

Im giving away my Defy to my brother, who is not good at ROM hacking thus I want to install him a ROM that is as stable as possible. I've installed one of Quarx's 4.3 ROM to it (2 months ago), but after a few days it refused to boot (guess it was the data corruption bug). So I wiped everything, now it has stock 2.2 ROM.
Any recommendations on a newer ROM, that has as few issues as possible?

syddd said:
Im giving away my Defy to my brother, who is not good at ROM hacking thus I want to install him a ROM that is as stable as possible. I've installed one of Quarx's 4.3 ROM to it (2 months ago), but after a few days it refused to boot (guess it was the data corruption bug). So I wiped everything, now it has stock 2.2 ROM.
Any recommendations on a newer ROM, that has as few issues as possible?
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I suggest trying MS2Ginger or CM7.

hotdog125 said:
I suggest trying MS2Ginger or CM7.
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Why not cm11? i think it's the only one stable since cm9, and almost everything works.

Android_74 said:
Why not cm11? i think it's the only one stable since cm9, and almost everything works.
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CM11 is not yet ready fully and it's not fully stable.

SlimBean 4.3.1
GB ROMs: MS2Ginger or CM7, already mentioned.
JB ROM: STABLE SlimBean 4.3.1 (final) build2.2.

Absroid said:
GB ROMs: MS2Ginger or CM7, already mentioned.
JB ROM: STABLE SlimBean 4.3.1 (final) build2.2.
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Do not install Slimbean for someone who doesn't flash his phone. Slimbean uses a customized version of the playstore, which means that the playstore won't work if google updates it.
There's nothing like CM7 for stability. I thought 4.1.2 was robust but it's starting to behave strangely after a couple of weeks of use.

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Slimbean uses a customized version of the playstore, which means that the playstore won't work if google updates it.
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Good point, but correct and incorrect.
Google Play Store 4.4.22 still working fine. It shouldn't be a problem to replace or manually update it to the latest 4.5.10.
Just download com.android.vending-4.5.10.apk and install the update.

Absroid said:
GB ROMs: MS2Ginger or CM7, already mentioned.
JB ROM: STABLE SlimBean 4.3.1 (final) build2.2.
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Is Slimybean based on Quarx's 4.3 ROM? Cause that has several bugs - one of them is, that a partition gets corrupted rendering the phone unable to boot.
Is there a buglist for Slimbean 4.3.1?

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Is Slimybean based on Quarx's 4.3 ROM? Cause that has several bugs - one of them is, that a partition gets corrupted rendering the phone unable to boot.
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Check the link for sources. If you mean Master Quarx's kernel, then yes. But if you want to use another one in JB, your choises are very limited..
This build is too an unofficial port, so only Slim-parts can be called stable, to be more accurate.
Is there a buglist for Slimbean 4.3.1?
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Changelog stable build 2
If you have time, you should test these suggested GB and JB builds.

Absroid said:
Good point, but correct and incorrect.
Google Play Store 4.4.22 still working fine. It shouldn't be a problem to replace or manually update it to the latest 4.5.10.
Just download com.android.vending-4.5.10.apk and install the update.
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Bottom line is, the playstore has a convenient auto update feature which Slimroms disables. His brother would have to go to slimroms.net to download further playstore updates. Besides, Slimroms.net could stop supporting the ROM at any time and he would be "stuck" with an outdated playstore. It would work but he would have to pass on any new features or fixes. That's something to consider.
Second thing to consider, every ROM is based on Quarx ROMs. This means that every custom ROM is likely to have Quarx's bugs AND the bugs of the cutomized ROM.
4.3 performs well but it is not 100% functional. I've read they had troubles with bluetooth and I found that some options don't work (adding APN for instance).
4.1.2 is mostly functional but it's not 100% stable. I had several reboots on a fresh install.
Epsylon's latest 4.0.4 is still a good pick. I just installed it and it performs better than JB on Kingdom Rush (it stuttered, crashed and reboot on JB and worked flawlessly on ICS!)
CM7.2 is awesome in every aspects BUT it doesn't have HWA, which means he won't be able to use some of the latest app. Of course, it doesn't mean much since the Defy is not very powerful. But there are some good HWA only apps that still work on the Defy.

I'll say Xperia D3.4 for Defy/Defy+ based on Quarx's CM10 (20130117). It's fast, clutter free, and stable. A very good music player, stable camera, and lots of other addons. Battery life is also not bad.

Because AndroidOS is a chopped/adapted Linux for every hardware (it doesn't contain large drivers library for space economy) is per se a not very stable OS. Even the original firmware isn't "very" stable so the various kind of mods is unstable either. Every mod ROMs is made to cover some aspects and for this cause you must pick the most appropriate for your needs. For beginner try to accomodate with original firmware first, after that try a CM7.x and if you wanna adventure pick a JB or a KK mod. Enjoy.