Hey Folks,
after playing around a while mainly with CyanogenMod 10 built by Quarx,
I was dissatisfied with the stability and especially the speed of the Defy+.
After using an oldschool mobile for the last weeks I decided I might give the Defy one more chance (missing GoogleMail and Contacts).
I wondered whether I can expect a major speed boost in using for example CyanogenMod 7 or any other rom.
Also stability is important to me, as I experienced reboots and connection issues with CM10
So I realy don't need to many features, just a fast stable android.
(I believe a clean Android could totally satisfy these points, but I cant live with that bloated Motorola version..)
Do you have any recommendations/experience which other roms might meet my wishes?
Thanks in advance
Either CM7 or MS2Ginger should satisfy your needs. CM9 isn't that bad as well.
hotdog125 said:
Either CM7 or MS2Ginger should satisfy your needs. CM9 isn't that bad as well.
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I can't find the cm9...
The page i've have found has a wrong link to download page
MikBre said:
I can't find the cm9...
The page i've have found has a wrong link to download page
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I also experience major stability and speed issues with CM 10.2 (Android 4.3) by Quarx.
Telephony API crashes a lot wish always requires a reboot.
Or the phone somehow loses the SIM card and i have to enter the PIN again before the phone becomes usable again.
I'm not sure if I did something wrong during the flashing process, or if it just 'normal' like that.
In any case, my Nexus4 was stolen in the Gym and I need a stable replacement phone for a few weeks!
Ordered the N5 yesterday, but who knows when it will _really_ ship.
freezer2k said:
I also experience major stability and speed issues with CM 10.2 (Android 4.3) by Quarx.
Telephony API crashes a lot wish always requires a reboot.
Or the phone somehow loses the SIM card and i have to enter the PIN again before the phone becomes usable again.
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In my case just slow responses and several crash
hotdog125 said:
Either CM7 or MS2Ginger should satisfy your needs. CM9 isn't that bad as well.
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I've falshed the Cm9 from Cm10.2.
My phone was blocked at the motorola logo.
Then i've flashed the CM 10 (Android 4.1.2) and after some attempts my phone restore.
Is there something different with CM9?
Maybe i've made a mistake with the CM9 file?
i would like to try to test stability and performance.
freezer2k said:
I also experience major stability and speed issues with CM 10.2 (Android 4.3) by Quarx.
Telephony API crashes a lot wish always requires a reboot.
Or the phone somehow loses the SIM card and i have to enter the PIN again before the phone becomes usable again.
I'm not sure if I did something wrong during the flashing process, or if it just 'normal' like that.
In any case, my Nexus4 was stolen in the Gym and I need a stable replacement phone for a few weeks!
Ordered the N5 yesterday, but who knows when it will _really_ ship.
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I suggest you to try the version 10....is much more stable and performing
My suggestion is to test the latest Mokee
I'm on Mokee 4.2.2 right now (4.3 is not stable). I'm loving it; fairly stable and slightly faster than CM 10.1. But the Telephony issue is still there; there's no cure for it, unfortunately.
If stability as well as speed are important to you, give WIUI 3.1.27 a try. I used it for a few days, was blazing fast! But moved on as i can't live with gingerbread.
Links:
Mokee : http://old.androidfilehost.com/main/MoKee-OpenSource/jordanplus/
WIUI : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161110
The most stable and fast ROM's for me are CM 4.1.2 and SlimROM.
Just do a clean install from start doing full wipe, and use minimal gapps :good:.
I use the WIUI GB, for me is the best.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161110
MelquiXDA said:
I use the WIUI GB, for me is the best.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161110
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The most Lightweight and stable ROM for Defy+ as for me is stock CM7.
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which is the stable ROM for defy+ for Daily usage....plz do rply
thanks in Advance
coolshahabaz said:
which is the stable ROM for defy+ for Daily usage....plz do rply
thanks in Advance
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Didint test CM 9s myself , coz i jumped from Stock to 2ndboot immediately CM 10 Cyanogen, but from what i can read - mostly all 4.0.4 are stable now.
CM 10s are also stable enough, used all versions of Cyanogen by Quarx from 2013 - suggest , if you decide to go that way to start with 0409 ROM. It has pretty good battery management, and no WiFI dropouts..All in all good choice..And no ringtone bug too.
If you get no WiFI and or no mobile signal - check FIRST aeroplane mode - it tends to boot with it on.
Just turn it off - and all works.
Cheerz
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Didint test CM 9s myself , coz i jumped from Stock to 2ndboot immediately CM 10 Cyanogen, but from what i can read - mostly all 4.0.4 are stable now.
CM 10s are also stable enough, used all versions of Cyanogen by Quarx from 2013 - suggest , if you decide to go that way to start with 0409 ROM. It has pretty good battery management, and no WiFI dropouts..All in all good choice..And no ringtone bug too.
If you get no WiFI and or no mobile signal - check FIRST aeroplane mode - it tends to boot with it on.
Just turn it off - and all works.
Cheerz
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thx buddy i've installed latest CM10 and running well too....
at the start i got wi-fi problem, wi-fi is not starting but after tweaking the baseband all started well....
now the thing is that I can not overclock my cell stcuk on 1GHz stcok frequency....
anyone here plz suggest me what should i do to get overclocked CPU...
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is that franco kernel updater will able to update the kernel???
coolshahabaz said:
thx buddy i've installed latest CM10 and running well too....
at the start i got wi-fi problem, wi-fi is not starting but after tweaking the baseband all started well....
now the thing is that I can not overclock my cell stcuk on 1GHz stcok frequency....
anyone here plz suggest me what should i do to get overclocked CPU...
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is that franco kernel updater will able to update the kernel???
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Think that read here on forums that SetVsel won't work well with CM10s..and tends to crash the thing ...look it up, not sure about it where i read it. If ur using it - try with something else. Also , read about developers pages - they are doing something wtih 3+ kernel but still very experimental.. check Quarx pages ull find all kinds of it there.
wajkiui 3.1.27 (gb) seems very stable, more than any other rom i tried including stock. second best would be stock (imo)
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wajkiui 3.1.27 (gb) seems very stable, more than any other rom i tried including stock. second best would be stock (imo)
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But, its based on 2.3.7 , isn't it? My guess was we are talking about CM10 4.1.2...All 4.0.4 are fully stable and thats CM9. Your talking about CM7 if im not mistaken, and that's way old. For that to put on defy plus - you can leave stock..
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But, its based on 2.3.7 , isn't it? My guess was we are talking about CM10 4.1.2...All 4.0.4 are fully stable and thats CM9. Your talking about CM7 if im not mistaken, and that's way old. For that to put on defy plus - you can leave stock..
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cm9/10 seemed too slow to me. stock is somewhat better but nowhere near gb-based miui. and the subject thread does not mention cm10. to me, the improvements of cm10 in terms of features do not make up for the loss in speed.
Hi, I've been looking through the forums and have been rather overwhelmed by the number of roms available at this point.
Things have come a very long way since I first rooted the phone months ago, and I haven't kept up to date with development recently.
I would love to test out multiple different roms on the L3 to find the best, but it's actually my girlfriends phone and she hates me "messing" with the phone too much, and as you must know, rom shootouts can take hours of flashing and testing. (I used to spend a lot of time doing this on my old motorola defy)
This is obviously a matter of opinion, but could I get any guidance on what would be the most STABLE and LAG FREE rom for this device?
Features are not an issue, this is just down to stability. The current setup on this device is an SDmerge stock based rom (cannot remember which as it's been a while) and there has been a lot of hangs and reboots. (I mean a LOT, rebooting about 3 or more times a day)
These are two roms that I've been looking at as standing out from the crowd, so comparisons from people who've used both would be awesome.
Any better suggestions are also obviously welcome:
Latte ~ lightweight + LG UI 3.2
MiniCM9 UNOFFICIAL for L3 E400
Hopefully, if enough good material is posted in the thread, I will create a rundown of fast, stable roms for this device with links.
Thanks to all the devs for their work on this device, with particular mention to Gellmar for his work on SDmerge and custom kernel. You, sir are a genius!
MiniCM9.
Or if you want 2.3.6, plain stock version + SDmerge: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250759
See also http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2326340
Latte v2 for me
MiniCM9 for me.
Or Jelly cast v6 RII.
gellmar created 2 specified recovery.img for each cm9 sdmerge and stock sdmerge. but some roms contain this recoverys and some others is not. so normal cwm can fully working with sdmerge rom? and what thing gellmar changed in his recovery/ any can answer me. thanks
So it seems that Mini CM9 is a good one.
We installed Latte, but after about a day it started to noticeably hang and lag, with more than one reboot.
It was a clean install (wipe of user data, cache, davlik etc.) so the install wasn't the issue.
Mini CM9 worked well, but a few apps struggled to access the camera correctly. Namely: Snapchat which returns a green screen when trying to take a photo.
Currently running this: Cyanoid Rom
Which seems to work well, but as it is based on CM9 it carries the same issue regarding Snapchat and some other apps.
Is anyone aware of a fix for this camera issue?
Aside from that, I'd recommend the rom linked above, as much as MiniCM9. Seems stable, and feature rich.
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Which seems to work well, but as it is based on CM9 it carries the same issue regarding Snapchat and some other apps.
Is anyone aware of a fix for this camera issue?
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Nope, all CM9 ROMs are affected. Green screen is also in Google Goggles. And Skype video-calling doesn't work, but works on 2.3.6 ROMs.
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Nope, all CM9 ROMs are affected. Green screen is also in Google Goggles. And Skype video-calling doesn't work, but works on 2.3.6 ROMs.
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Is this to do with the kernels interaction with the camera?
Or could it maybe be fixed by replacing camera app, or editing build.prop?
Would be great if someone could shine some light
Most Stable with a great SDmerge support is Cyanoid, because we realize 2 different versions, one for NOn-sdmerge devices and one edited for Sdmerge devices, with some improvements,and NOT just a step 4 copy/paste into zip, the differences flashing a rom and then step 4 or flashing a Sdmerge designed rom is the stability of it and its speed, you can choose the rom u want, because each one have its different features
In my opinion every stock 2.3.6 Rom is stable ...in ics time most stable I used is mini cm9 ....but I use stock ROM cuz camera quality is better any one know how improve cm9 camera????
zombienotdead said:
In my opinion every stock 2.3.6 Rom is stable ...in ics time most stable I used is mini cm9 ....but I use stock ROM cuz camera quality is better any one know how improve cm9 camera????
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Camera 360 takes much better images than the stock CM9 camera.
And I'm experiencing so much slowdown, and a tonne of reboots on stock,
Is this a common issue? Any fix to recommend?
In my opinion I'll opt out for Cyanoid. It's the far most the perfect one with awesome features. So, you could just give it a shot. I've using it for a couple of months now. And other one of the best ROM is RayogenMod. It's also pretty good. I've tried out both of them..
a long time ago i had a stock defy. i sold it and now i just bought one again. yeah!
i am looking for a solid and tough phone for outdoor/sports/festivals/catproof and so the decision to buy one was easy.
for business i use a htc one s with custom rom and so i started looking for a custom rom for the defy. seems not so easy. i found a lot of roms but the more i found the more it confused me. at least i need this phone to be stable, not too slow and long running (=no bugs). cm7 seems to be perfect, ecxept the RIL bug.
any suggestions which rom i should take a look at?
whould it be easier to stay stock and just root?
punkt said:
a long time ago i had a stock defy. i sold it and now i just bought one again. yeah!
i am looking for a solid and tough phone for outdoor/sports/festivals/catproof and so the decision to buy one was easy.
for business i use a htc one s with custom rom and so i started looking for a custom rom for the defy. seems not so easy. i found a lot of roms but the more i found the more it confused me. at least i need this phone to be stable, not too slow and long running (=no bugs). cm7 seems to be perfect, ecxept the RIL bug.
any suggestions which rom i should take a look at?
whould it be easier to stay stock and just root?
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Try the cm 7 or this
MikBre said:
Try the cm 7 or this
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Try this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161110
It's MIUI and I had it on my phone for quite a while. Battery is good and overall a nice performance. I was very happy, but these days I wanna go with time and have some android 4 with otg-support and so on. Since Call Recording is working good on CM10.2, I decided to use it as my daily rom.
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Try this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161110
It's MIUI and I had it on my phone for quite a while. Battery is good and overall a nice performance. I was very happy, but these days I wanna go with time and have some android 4 with otg-support and so on. Since Call Recording is working good on CM10.2, I decided to use it as my daily rom.
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I had MIUI too , it was really good , but now I'm on CM10.2 too , I'm waiting for a stable version of CM11.
10.2 sounds good. how about performance and battery life compared to miui?
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10.2 sounds good. how about performance and battery life compared to miui?
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Uhm.. I think CM10.2's battery life is draining quite faster than MIUI ( I had MIUI like 4-5 months ago.. so.. ).
Quarx's work is awesome, this is a quite stable rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1768702
I have a wifi problem with the last version, but it seems that I am the only one, so you cold try and see if it suits you
Try one of quarx CM ROMs (10,10.1 or 10.2), or SlimROM.
If u need bluetooth, use CM 10 from quarx, because it's the only one that has working bluetooth from the JB ROM's (or any other CM10 quarx based ROM).
for me CM7 is the more stable and quick (WIUI GB is nice too)
CM10 works fine also, but a bit slower than GB
so if you don't really need android 4 go for CM7/WIUI GB, or the other CM7 based depending of your taste !
Which 4.3 build version with video recording should I install?
hoderer said:
Try this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161110
... Since Call Recording is working good on CM10.2, I decided to use it as my daily rom.
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Hi guys!
Can you please tell me wich 10.2 build version are you using?
I have green lens but in any of the 10.2 I have tried, works the video recording on my defy.
I do enjoy installing new roms, patches, updates but right now I am on an 10.1 CM version because of that.
I read that a mokee 4.3 version and a 4.3 (from Quarx thread) are working like a charm but I can not find the right one.
I will apreciate any help.
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Im giving away my Defy to my brother, who is not good at ROM hacking thus I want to install him a ROM that is as stable as possible. I've installed one of Quarx's 4.3 ROM to it (2 months ago), but after a few days it refused to boot (guess it was the data corruption bug). So I wiped everything, now it has stock 2.2 ROM.
Any recommendations on a newer ROM, that has as few issues as possible?
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Im giving away my Defy to my brother, who is not good at ROM hacking thus I want to install him a ROM that is as stable as possible. I've installed one of Quarx's 4.3 ROM to it (2 months ago), but after a few days it refused to boot (guess it was the data corruption bug). So I wiped everything, now it has stock 2.2 ROM.
Any recommendations on a newer ROM, that has as few issues as possible?
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I suggest trying MS2Ginger or CM7.
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I suggest trying MS2Ginger or CM7.
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Why not cm11? i think it's the only one stable since cm9, and almost everything works.
Android_74 said:
Why not cm11? i think it's the only one stable since cm9, and almost everything works.
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CM11 is not yet ready fully and it's not fully stable.
SlimBean 4.3.1
GB ROMs: MS2Ginger or CM7, already mentioned.
JB ROM: STABLE SlimBean 4.3.1 (final) build2.2.
Absroid said:
GB ROMs: MS2Ginger or CM7, already mentioned.
JB ROM: STABLE SlimBean 4.3.1 (final) build2.2.
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Do not install Slimbean for someone who doesn't flash his phone. Slimbean uses a customized version of the playstore, which means that the playstore won't work if google updates it.
There's nothing like CM7 for stability. I thought 4.1.2 was robust but it's starting to behave strangely after a couple of weeks of use.
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Slimbean uses a customized version of the playstore, which means that the playstore won't work if google updates it.
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Good point, but correct and incorrect.
Google Play Store 4.4.22 still working fine. It shouldn't be a problem to replace or manually update it to the latest 4.5.10.
Just download com.android.vending-4.5.10.apk and install the update.
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GB ROMs: MS2Ginger or CM7, already mentioned.
JB ROM: STABLE SlimBean 4.3.1 (final) build2.2.
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Is Slimybean based on Quarx's 4.3 ROM? Cause that has several bugs - one of them is, that a partition gets corrupted rendering the phone unable to boot.
Is there a buglist for Slimbean 4.3.1?
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Is Slimybean based on Quarx's 4.3 ROM? Cause that has several bugs - one of them is, that a partition gets corrupted rendering the phone unable to boot.
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Check the link for sources. If you mean Master Quarx's kernel, then yes. But if you want to use another one in JB, your choises are very limited..
This build is too an unofficial port, so only Slim-parts can be called stable, to be more accurate.
Is there a buglist for Slimbean 4.3.1?
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Changelog stable build 2
If you have time, you should test these suggested GB and JB builds.
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Good point, but correct and incorrect.
Google Play Store 4.4.22 still working fine. It shouldn't be a problem to replace or manually update it to the latest 4.5.10.
Just download com.android.vending-4.5.10.apk and install the update.
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Bottom line is, the playstore has a convenient auto update feature which Slimroms disables. His brother would have to go to slimroms.net to download further playstore updates. Besides, Slimroms.net could stop supporting the ROM at any time and he would be "stuck" with an outdated playstore. It would work but he would have to pass on any new features or fixes. That's something to consider.
Second thing to consider, every ROM is based on Quarx ROMs. This means that every custom ROM is likely to have Quarx's bugs AND the bugs of the cutomized ROM.
4.3 performs well but it is not 100% functional. I've read they had troubles with bluetooth and I found that some options don't work (adding APN for instance).
4.1.2 is mostly functional but it's not 100% stable. I had several reboots on a fresh install.
Epsylon's latest 4.0.4 is still a good pick. I just installed it and it performs better than JB on Kingdom Rush (it stuttered, crashed and reboot on JB and worked flawlessly on ICS!)
CM7.2 is awesome in every aspects BUT it doesn't have HWA, which means he won't be able to use some of the latest app. Of course, it doesn't mean much since the Defy is not very powerful. But there are some good HWA only apps that still work on the Defy.
I'll say Xperia D3.4 for Defy/Defy+ based on Quarx's CM10 (20130117). It's fast, clutter free, and stable. A very good music player, stable camera, and lots of other addons. Battery life is also not bad.
Because AndroidOS is a chopped/adapted Linux for every hardware (it doesn't contain large drivers library for space economy) is per se a not very stable OS. Even the original firmware isn't "very" stable so the various kind of mods is unstable either. Every mod ROMs is made to cover some aspects and for this cause you must pick the most appropriate for your needs. For beginner try to accomodate with original firmware first, after that try a CM7.x and if you wanna adventure pick a JB or a KK mod. Enjoy.
I just wondered what your favourite ROM is for Defy?
I am on CM7 Gingerbread at the moment but would like to update. I have the Bayer lens.
Is there anything in particular you'd recommend for running smoothly without too many bugs?
I hear that the newer versions of Android from 4.1.2 and above you don't have to keep re-entering your VPN password and details as it remembers them and reconnects you automatically?
Am I best going for a Jellybean ROM like CM10 CMX, Slimbean or Paranoid Droid? Or are the KitKat versions okay to go to now without many bugs?
Just make a backup and try the latest CM11 ROM.
I never had a serious problem with CM11, and I update regularly. For me, stable for daily usage.
i still find cm7 the best, and i'm on maniac107's 10/7/13 built.
edit: i don't use vpn.
I must have tried at least 30 different roms since I own my defy. The fastest 4.1 one was called NEGAN.
Now, talking about 4.4, my favourite and fastest are Paranoid. Slim kat is awesome but causes too many random reboots
I find the cm7.2 the fastest. But it does tend to get slow after installing no of apps.
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I find the cm7.2 the fastest. But it does tend to get slow after installing no of apps.
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i suspect that could be due to memory limitation of the defy. i mean, from cm9 onward you can't even install a full gapps.
CyanogenMod 9 Quarx2k lastest build.
I'm still on CM7 with my Defy because I use it on daily basis. Every other ROM is good at first but then they became unbearably slow. @@
rmrf said:
I'm still on CM7 with my Defy because I use it on daily basis. Every other ROM is good at first but then they became unbearably slow. @@
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With CM11, only after a long time, for me, it starts to be slower. Wiping cache and dalvik solves that problem for me (I update regularly with the latest ROM, so my Defy+ do not get slow).