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USB on Universal

Hi,
I'm looking to buy a Universal but I've a question on the USB port.
Has anyone tried connecting a USB hard drive directly to the Universal? I have a Archive Gmini 220 and I was wondering if the Universal would see it as an external drive and if this is the case can it run media on the drive such as MP3 or AVI files? Also has anyone tried connecting a card reader to read CF or Memory sticks etc.
Any rumours of a Universal with internal hard drive?
Captaink

Olnly thing i've heard is it does support but peoples who already tried says nevr made it work.

That's because just as with a normal PC it needs drivers to work with your device.
It's just a matter of time........ :lol:

rob_van_triet said:
That's because just as with a normal PC it needs drivers to work with your device.
It's just a matter of time........ :lol:
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Agreed. This picture
http://www.tekguru.co.uk/reviews/images/xda_exec/Exec_012.jpg
clearly shows the mini-AB receptacle
http://www.hardware-bastelkiste.de/usb.html

Having a USB socket doesnt mean its a USB host!!!
It has to have that mini usb socket so that you can sync and charge, as they dropped the old style 21pin connector now. Its just like the Magician with usb only now.
There have been rumours it supports USB host mode, but ive not heard any confirmation or proof.

in this review of the device they say it does host
http://www.tekguru.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7031

Pyrofer said:
Having a USB socket doesnt mean its a USB host!!!
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The PXA270 has a builtin USB host and
can operate as an OTG device. The guys
at HTC must be really sick if they have
not wired it.
I don't get only one thing: what USB 2.0
means here ? OTG ?

in which case it seems that HP and DELL are sick aswell
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=26742&highlight=usb
8)

Why only one usb????

Why only one usb!!!!!!
I think that anotherone may be very very usefull....
OR NOT?
Anyone agree?

For what?
pitt1983 said:
Why only one usb!!!!!!
I think that anotherone may be very very usefull....
OR NOT?
Anyone agree?
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What do you wanna use it for? havent used mine a single time since i got the device.

ehm..
ehm..
usb key and mouse,
usb key and an external hdd
2 external hdd
mouse and external hdd
2 usb pen
an external dvd that need 2 usb
included hub need 2 usb
and i think many many many others uses

You get a free USB hub with Ethernet !!
Included in the package is a USB hub with 3 ports, AND an ETHERNET port !
Nice... I really do like my device

pitt1983 said:
ehm..
included hub need 2 usb
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really ? why would they put a usb hub that does not work with the shift... seems weird !
everybody here is using the usb hub without any issue I believe.. because they would have complained earlier

The (much bigger) MacBook AIR also has only one USB port... and Apple doesn't include an 3port-USB-Hub with embedded ethernet port - the shift does.
But there are of course also technical reasons (besides space): Power! An additional USB Port would require additinal power (up to 0,5A at 5V) - thus, the internal power system must be bigger sized for this (and an "oversized" internal power system means: Inefficent under normal operating conditions).
And remember: Most USB Disks draw more than 0,5A from the USB port, especially at spinup time...

pitt1983 said:
included hub need 2 usb
and i think many many many others uses
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not true. Did you try it ?

no need usb?
so noone need another usb?
I love my shift! i waited for it one year.
but i think that one more usb port can be more useful.
i repeat. LOVE THAT SHIFT!

McDoPDA said:
not true. Did you try it ?
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if you use htc hub and two portable usb hdd you can't use them. or if i use an external dvd that bring alimentation by usb i can use it.
sorry for my english.

pitt1983 said:
if you use htc hub and two portable usb hdd you can't use them. or if i use an external dvd that bring alimentation by usb i can use it.
sorry for my english.
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ok I see what you mean .. mmh well.. maybe you can find an usb hub with external power ? it would solve all the issues

external power
koala996 said:
ok I see what you mean .. mmh well.. maybe you can find an usb hub with external power ? it would solve all the issues
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when i'm in office or at home i use an external power cable directly connected to the htc hub. but is not comfortable.
and when i'm out or in others places i can't use external power cable.
in my opinion not comfortable anymore.

Isn't the small USB port at the back of the Hub just power in? I didn't try yet, but it is obviously a IN port.
Axel

These usb options are great but I think you missing the point of the shift.
The shift is supposed to be a portable device, are you really going to bring all those wired devices with you? Do you really want to be connecting all that up each time you get to work or your desk at home? everyday?
Why not use bluetooth devices?
keyboard and mouse -bluetooth for sure.
Same goes for the pens, portable scanners and printers almost all of them can be found with a bluetooth options.
Hell I even use bluetooth devices for the serial connections on the routers and switches I work with.
Now your external dvd and hardrive to replace those you have to get creative -
For home and work I always map a drive from a desktop machine.
On the road you have a couple of options with flash drives at 16gb for $50-70 bucks do really need that old external harddrive that uses two ports?
32GB flash drives are now as low as $150. Quite few dvd's you can fit on that!
If you really want to be free of carrying stuff around sign up for sugarsync or some other online service and never carry your data again.
I almost never use the external usb hub that came with the shift. It is a last resort item for me, destined for the bottom of the laptop bag. Wifi, 3g and no cables will always be prefered over that thing.
You may like sticking with usb cable/dongle devices but consider switching a few out for more wireless solutions and I think you will like your shift a whole lot better. That rats nest of cables in your laptop bag will shink as well!
I am not knocking you question or the advise others have given just offering an alternative.
My dream is for somebody to find a way to charge the battery on my shift without a cable connected then I will die a happy man.

EinSiedler said:
Isn't the small USB port at the back of the Hub just power in? I didn't try yet, but it is obviously a IN port.
Axel
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yes is a power in port. if shift had 2 ports i can be able to use it whitout a power connector at wall (sorry for the expression) i don't know how to say it in english.
however shift have one only usb port. and it is not comfortable.

stormforger said:
These usb options are great but I think you missing the point of the shift.
The shift is supposed to be a portable device, are you really going to bring all those wired devices with you? Do you really want to be connecting all that up each time you get to work or your desk at home? everyday?
Why not use bluetooth devices?
keyboard and mouse -bluetooth for sure.
Same goes for the pens, portable scanners and printers almost all of them can be found with a bluetooth options.
Hell I even use bluetooth devices for the serial connections on the routers and switches I work with.
Now your external dvd and hardrive to replace those you have to get creative -
For home and work I always map a drive from a desktop machine.
On the road you have a couple of options with flash drives at 16gb for $50-70 bucks do really need that old external harddrive that uses two ports?
32GB flash drives are now as low as $150. Quite few dvd's you can fit on that!
If you really want to be free of carrying stuff around sign up for sugarsync or some other online service and never carry your data again.
I almost never use the external usb hub that came with the shift. It is a last resort item for me, destined for the bottom of the laptop bag. Wifi, 3g and no cables will always be prefered over that thing.
You may like sticking with usb cable/dongle devices but consider switching a few out for more wireless solutions and I think you will like your shift a whole lot better. That rats nest of cables in your laptop bag will shink as well!
I am not knocking you question or the advise others have given just offering an alternative.
My dream is for somebody to find a way to charge the battery on my shift without a cable connected then I will die a happy man.
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yeah charging batteries without power cord maybe the century revelation. i hope will be a reality...
i return to my argument ( always sorry for my english)
online storage are not very fast.. or capable for the gigabites that i need to carry with me.
every day i need to put on my pc's, shift included, customers files, personal files, try many new programs. and these actions (you well know on microsoft may destroy very fast a system configuration). an you know that vista business and ultimate have an usefull utility of backup. i need to backup and restore many times in a week or in a day my sistem. so, i need to carry with me many hdd or 8gb pen drive..
and this is my problem..

EinSiedler said:
Isn't the small USB port at the back of the Hub just power in? I didn't try yet, but it is obviously a IN port.
Axel
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if you put your mobile phone power cord in the htc hub will be feeded up.
now when hub is feeded you can put more hdd or an external dvd. but if you unput power cord the dvd or the hdds not work yet...

Did you plug a power supply in the mini usb plug on the back? This is a powered USB hub.

i think htc could of added more usb ports but the biggest problem was the space. more usb ports could of made it bigger. never disassembled or looked at the disassembly pics close but im guessing there is no more room really.

Pawel062 said:
i think htc could of added more usb ports but the biggest problem was the space. more usb ports could of made it bigger. never disassembled or looked at the disassembly pics close but im guessing there is no more room really.
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i saw by a cinese or corean site the shift got naked, i think that there is some littlle space to put another usb port. i think.

Erhhh its a umpc not a workstation
pitt1983 said:
ehm..
usb key and mouse,
usb key and an external hdd
2 external hdd
mouse and external hdd
2 usb pen
an external dvd that need 2 usb
included hub need 2 usb
and i think many many many others uses
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This is not a workstation, if you need a all this you may have bought the wrong form factor. i have never used my usb port, i dont see what i should connect to this form factor, maybe a usb stick once in a while..
else use the usb hub and bluetooth mouse/keyboard

Noob question: TF onboard flash; included USB adapter

Hello - please excuse the noob question. I tried searching, but couldn't find anything that addressed my question specifically.
1) Is there any difference in performance between the onboard memory and the memory you put in the micro-SD slot? They're both "flash" memory right? Granted, some micro-SD cards are faster than others, so I wonder what class of flash Asus uses in the onboard memory? Would the 16GB version perform any different from the 32GB version?
2) I'm still a little confused about the box contents of the Asus TF and how to use it (I don't have one yet, hence the confusion). It seems like you get a USB cable and a wall adapter? The USB cable can be used to connect the TF to your computer for quickly transferring data. The USB cable can also be connected to the wall power adapter for charging? Is that right? But the wall adapter seems to provide more than the typical 5+ charge voltage that other generic USB power adapters provide, because the Asus wall power adapter can charge the TF in about an hour. Is any of that correct?
But the USB cable can't be used as a USB host, like for a thumb drive (for obvious reasons of not being a female connector, but even if you do the male-female conversion)?
3) I've heard of people connecting their Transformer to an external hard drive. Are they using the USB ports provided by the keyboard dock? Or is there a USB adapter out already that allows the TF to act as a USB host?
Thanks!

coachclass said:
Hello - please excuse the noob question. I tried searching, but couldn't find anything that addressed my question specifically.
1) Is there any difference in performance between the onboard memory and the memory you put in the micro-SD slot? They're both "flash" memory right? Granted, some micro-SD cards are faster than others, so I wonder what class of flash Asus uses in the onboard memory? Would the 16GB version perform any different from the 32GB version?
2) I'm still a little confused about the box contents of the Asus TF and how to use it (I don't have one yet, hence the confusion). It seems like you get a USB cable and a wall adapter? The USB cable can be used to connect the TF to your computer for quickly transferring data. The USB cable can also be connected to the wall power adapter for charging? Is that right? But the wall adapter seems to provide more than the typical 5+ charge voltage that other generic USB power adapters provide, because the Asus wall power adapter can charge the TF in about an hour. Is any of that correct?
But the USB cable can't be used as a USB host, like for a thumb drive (for obvious reasons of not being a female connector, but even if you do the male-female conversion)?
3) I've heard of people connecting their Transformer to an external hard drive. Are they using the USB ports provided by the keyboard dock? Or is there a USB adapter out already that allows the TF to act as a USB host?
Thanks!
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1) Im using a class 10 card and ive never noticed any 'lag' accessing stuff on the card rather than internal
2) Yes the USB cable supplied can either be used with the wall plug as a charger or directly to a PC for file transfer/sync. I believe people have had mixed results using a mele/female adapter. ASUS are allegedly releasing an official male/female adapter that may have more success.
3) I use an external HD with my keyboard dock. Its USB 2.0 and provides power to to the external drive just fine.
Hope this helps

wilbur-force said:
3) I use an external HD with my keyboard dock. Its USB 2.0 and provides power to to the external drive just fine.
Hope this helps
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wilbur - how are you connecting the external HD to your Asus? Via the keyboard dock? Or do you have some kind of special USB cable that connects directly to the TF?

learn to read better

coachclass said:
wilbur - how are you connecting the external HD to your Asus? Via the keyboard dock? Or do you have some kind of special USB cable that connects directly to the TF?
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... with my keyboard dock ....

ok, thanks. Anyone have any word on when/if Asus will release a USB adapter for the tablet itself? I haven't come across it.

How do I power an external HDD so that I can use OTG?

Hey guys!
I have a Transcend StoreJet 500gb external HDD that I want to connect to my Nexus 7 (2012). Flash based usb sticks work fine, but this hard disk with the actual spinning platter doesn't. I found out that you need to "power the hard drive with a usb hub".
I don't have a usb hub, so I thought of this. Since my External HDD has a usb cable with two usb connectors, can I plug one of them into the Nexus 7 battery charger and the other one into my nexus 7 with a OTG cable?
Can I power it properly like that?
Or is it dangerous?
If I only connect it to my nexus 7 it makes beeping sounds and doesn't get detected. Not much power output on the Nexus 7....
Please help!
Thanks in advance.

You need a powered USB hub, they aren't that expensive.
Sent from my Nexus 7(2012) that has zero issues.

SlowCobra96 said:
You need a powered USB hub, they aren't that expensive.
Sent from my Nexus 7(2012) that has zero issues.
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Is there nothing else I can do?
Cost is not the issue, I just cant buy anything right now. :good:

compgenie said:
Hey guys!
Since my External HDD has a usb cable with two usb connectors, can I plug one of them into the Nexus 7 battery charger and the other one into my nexus 7 with a OTG cable?
Can I power it properly like that?
Or is it dangerous?
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Yes you can do that, it is not dangerous. I power my external WD Passport HD by plugging one usb connector into the pc for power and the other into the OTG usb cable. My drive won't spin unless supplied with the additional power. I have also tried it by plugging the connector into an a/c adapter instead of the pc usb port, which also worked fine.

Groid said:
Yes you can do that, it is not dangerous. I power my external WD Passport HD by plugging one usb connector into the pc for power and the other into the OTG usb cable. My drive won't spin unless supplied with the additional power. I have also tried it by plugging the connector into an a/c adapter instead of the pc usb port, which also worked fine.
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Connecting it to a/c adapter + tab worked! :good:
Thanks!
Ps: I tried that before too. Didn't work then. Now it worked. Weird.

Hi all,
I have a similar problem with my N7 attaching a small USB powered HDD to watch HD movies stored on that drive. Thing is, when I attach the HDD on my USB OTG cable, all i hear is a repeated "clack..clack" and nothing happens, the HDD doesn´t start. So the other day I got my Nexus 5 and for fun I tried to use the SAME HDD with the same cable and same adapter on the N5 and it worked flawlessly! Starts up, Stickount mounts it and boom!
Now how can it be that one device can work with the HDD and one not? I´mm guessing it may be related to AC voltage levels, but shouldn´t the Nexus 7 be able to deliver the same or even more power to the HDD than the Nexus 5?I don´t get it....
Thanks,
Kusie

Support USB OTG

Does the G6 support USB otg? The reason I'm asking I bought a borescope camera and can't see to get it to work. Camera only cost $10 and if I can get this working I can sell my $1300 Snap-On camera that is the same thing

Same thing? Really?

I think he's basically referring to storage and photo quality together

Yes it is support usb otg

val5 said:
Yes it is support usb otg
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What do I need to do for this to work. I plugged in a USB drive and didn't work. My wife's S7 Edge worked no issues. Ideas? I have TMobile G6.

rubiicon59 said:
Same thing? Really?
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Meaning I can use it to look through spark if hole or injector nozzle to see cylinder walls. Resolution should be almost identical except I have a HD+ screen on my phone that may help it look a little better.

BlackKnight23 said:
What do I need to do for this to work. I plugged in a USB drive and didn't work. My wife's S7 Edge worked no issues. Ideas? I have TMobile G6.
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Did you pick up an otg adapter dongle? The one I have is the "Anker USB-C to USB 3.1 Adapter".

No but I'll definitely pick one up.

markfm said:
Did you pick up an otg adapter dongle? The one I have is the "Anker USB-C to USB 3.1 Adapter".
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I ordered that exact one works perfect. It's weird I have a different adapter that didn't work I guess it's for charging only.

BlackKnight23 said:
What do I need to do for this to work. I plugged in a USB drive and didn't work. My wife's S7 Edge worked no issues. Ideas? I have TMobile G6.
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What it is said when you plugged in the usb drive?

val5 said:
What it is said when you plugged in the usb drive?
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At the top of the screen from the notification area, it showed USB icon and you can click on it to see files.

I didn't found solution for my problem, and i think there is no need to open new topic, but if you know - help me!
From purchase my H870I had a problem with USB OTG.
When memory card micro SD is inserted and mounted, everything is working properly.
When I connect USB OTG USB adapter with USB flash drive, or USB OTG memory card reader, then in notification area is "Android System - Reading USB Drive" all time.
In System settings - storage
is the information about internal memory and and memory card capacity and usage, and "USB Drive - checking"
In that state a cannot access any file on memory card. For example I can see photos and albums, but after opening one of them there is icon, that file is corrupted.
I need to reboot phone to memory card work properly again.
To see files on USB OTG device i need to unmount memory card in settings, and then plug USB OTG. After unplugging USB OTG I must mount memory card again.
Did you have a similar problem? I must say, that back to factory state, and oreo update (also last ThinQ update) didn't resolve my problem. Do you have any solution? Can you give your ideas to resolve this problem?

I'd try a second usb flash drive. If you get the same hanging issue, I'd expect it's something bad with your usb otg adapter. Sometimes an adapter might work okay with one phone, but be kind of on the hairy edge and not work with a second phone.
I use the anker usb c to usb otg adapter a lot with my g6, since I first got it over a year ago. I do transfers to multiple flash drives.
Good luck!

I tried a different USB card reader, and it's working perfectly. Thanks for help!