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In terms of stability, built-in features, battery life, performance and anything else important that I might have forgotten, which of the below three ROMs is top dog? Just so you know, I plan on flashing the non-overclocked GPU version of _motley's Linaro kernel regardless of which ROM I choose.
Paranoid Android
Glazed
JR6
krion64 said:
In terms of stability, built-in features, battery life, performance and anything else important that I might have forgotten, which of the below three ROMs is top dog? Just so you know, I plan on flashing the non-overclocked GPU version of _motley's Linaro kernel regardless of which ROM I choose.
Paranoid Android
Glazed
JR6
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I'm running paranoid myself but the best advice I've read when people ask this question is try them all. What's best means to me might not be what it means to you. I've tried all three myself and they were all stable, I like paranoid because of the per app density feature it has. It was just updated again today btw. Motleys kernel is awesome I like the one without gpuoc. Good luck, happy flashing
Thanks for the advice. Also, I have another question for anybody who can answer. These three ROMs seem to be mostly similar in terms of features, so it's actually kind of hard telling the differences. So, what I'm trying to ask is, what sets each ROM apart?
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Paranoid Android
Glazed
JR6
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Does anyone know the answer to this? I used JR5, EOS now PA. They are all very similar, as you would expect. PA has more config options for setting up tablet UI which is key for me and the reason I use it currently (with Nova Launcher).
I liked JRX Roms as they have lots of apps inbuilt that the others dont, ie working Flash, GAPPS etc.
I'm also using Trinity kernel which is working great, again, I have not noticed much difference between them all.
Try them and take your pick
I say EOS with Mortley kernel
Hi, recently I just got a nexus 4. Some time ago I use to had a optimus black and in their own forum there is a few ROMs. In the other hand here, OMG there is a lot of ROMs and I just dont know wich is the best combination between kernel, ROM, or maybe there are 2 or 3 great ROMs, etc...
I just dont know anything talking about ROMs for Nexus 4. Can some one help me a little bit in order to see 1,2 or 3 ROMs and I can make my choice?
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Hi, recently I just got a nexus 4. Some time ago I use to had a optimus black and in their own forum there is a few ROMs. In the other hand here, OMG there is a lot of ROMs and I just dont know wich is the best combination between kernel, ROM, or maybe there are 2 or 3 great ROMs, etc...
I just dont know anything talking about ROMs for Nexus 4. Can some one help me a little bit in order to see 1,2 or 3 ROMs and I can make my choice?
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Stock 4.2.2 (rooted if you're into that). Nothing can beat the stability of pure android. Amazing battery life on the stock kernel as well (I can easily squeeze out 4 hours of screen on each day on mobile data).
If you're more after features, CM10 has always been more reliable for me than AOKP. Once again, stock kernel is great for performance/battery life.
AOKP if full of features that most people have no need for. But it's nice to have, I guess. Always has been the buggiest for me though, so I tend to stay away from it.
As I said before, nothing beats stock in terms of stability.
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Stock 4.2.2 (rooted if you're into that). Nothing can beat the stability of pure android. Amazing battery life on the stock kernel as well (I can easily squeeze out 4 hours of screen on each day on mobile data).
If you're more after features, CM10 has always been more reliable for me than AOKP. Once again, stock kernel is great for performance/battery life.
AOKP if full of features that most people have no need for. But it's nice to have, I guess. Always has been the buggiest for me though, so I tend to stay away from it.
As I said before, nothing beats stock in terms of stability.
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Thanks for your recomendation, since I got this device I knew that it will be the most pure android system and as your thoughts I also do not think it was neccesary to change to any ROM. Thanks for your answer it is a lot of help for me.
Just one more question, why do you reccomend me to put root in my device, can you give me some examples it will be usefull?
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Thanks for your recomendation, since I got this device I knew that it will be the most pure android system and as your thoughts I also do not think it was neccesary to change to any ROM. Thanks for your answer it is a lot of help for me.
Just one more question, why do you reccomend me to put root in my device, can you give me some examples it will be usefull?
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For Ad blockers, Titanium backup and restore for user apps and data, color control, custom bootanimations (also requires custom recovery) etc etc
Hey,
I just wanted to ask does the custom roms really worth rooting? in comparison to the google stock rom how much faster and more battery efficient are the custom rom that specialize in those fields? (i.e. LiquidSmooth from what I could gather) and how much more/less stable are they from the stock rom?
Thank you.
Experience differs from user to user. The most conclusive way to get an answer is to try it out yourself. For me, PA has been just as fast as the stock ROM and had equally good battery life, but I have had the occasional random reboot. To me that's a miniscule trade-off for the features you get. You won't really get a ROM that's significantly faster than a stock ROM though because the hardware on the phone is good enough that everything feels fast.
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Hey,
I just wanted to ask does the custom roms really worth rooting? in comparison to the google stock rom how much faster and more battery efficient are the custom rom that specialize in those fields? (i.e. LiquidSmooth from what I could gather) and how much more/less stable are they from the stock rom?
Thank you.
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I would recommend you try both and stick with the one that works best for you. Only you can determine which one you like more. The N4 is easy to install a custom rom on (even from stock). Plus with the backup apps out there you don't have to risk losing your data and starting over. No two users are identical and what works for one may not work for another.
For what it's worth, I've flashed back to stock/locked/unrooted because I never came to depend on the features the different roms gave me. I'm getting older and don't have the time to stay current on the different roms and features. All I need for my phone are apps/features that are found in the stock rom and the google store. Battery life is better on a custom rom but it's not worth it to me to continue my "flashaholic" ways. I still get through a day sometimes a day and a half on the stock rom - which is all I need. My use case could be drastically different than yours so don't do what I did unless you know it will work for you.
The developers here do great work and it's a great community so I would recommend you try them all to see which one you like the most.
Good luck.
You need to find the answer yourself.
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its not about me testing for myself because i'm not looking for features or special stuff i can get along with everything i'm really just looking for the fastest most battery saving ROM, thats it, I play little to almost no games basicly mail and scanning and stuff like that(i'm a student right now) and soon i'll be writing some apps for myself for security purposes so I need something to really milk that Quad Core for all its worth so I also need some CPU tweaking apps(not sure if thats ROM related)
You'll be very happy with Sabermod or Rasbean both close to stock. Sabermod is the only Rom built using the 4.8 chaintool and is very fast. The battery life is also excellent. I recommend those 2 for a close to stock experience with some useful tweaks both fast smooth and solid.
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Thank you for your input.
Any other opinions?
and by the way, excuse my ignorance but what does it mean 4.8 chaintool? what makes it faster then the 4.7 or the older ones? and since its really new im guessing, does it mean its less stable then the other ROMS? and when you say excellent battery life, its in comparison to all those other ROMS that aim for max battery life?
Thank you!
If you really want more battery life or smoothness then IMO you should just install a new kernel; Franco's kernel has great battery life but it still has better performance than stock, Trinity kernel is super fast and smooth, and there's loads more options available.
I'm running CM10.1 and Franco kernel and its very stable, barely ever have any sort of bugs or random reboots
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I run CM10.1. Close to stock, but has a few options that are nice to have especially if you like to customize your phone. There are other Roms that have more options, but to me, what's in CM is enough. It's really up to you.
With that being said, I recently flashed a stock rooted rom and got MUCH better battery life than on CM. I don't know if it was an app I had or what, but stock definitely gave me better battery life. I have tried kernels and Rom combinations, but always come back to CM with every single phone I've had. But, in my experience on the Nexus 4, stock Rom gives me the best battery life.
For me liquidsmooth is brilliant! Extremely fast while having tons of customization options. Pair it with matr1x and it really is a great combo for speed and battery life. This is only my opinion but it works for me. I got over 22000 on antutu with this combination (no overclock) while I think its around 17000 on stock. I also get significantly better battery life compared to stock.
if you really want a bump in battery and performance, i suggest rooting and just install francos kernel.i've tried every rom on this forum and for me i ALWAYS find my way back to stock for me it just feels the most fluid and everything works like it should. like me you dont play games or anything and im no app hoarder.that said stock rom with francos kernel gives me the best of everything including color/gamma tweaks to make your screen look better with his app.
with that said i suggest to check out different kernels
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if you really want a bump in battery and performance, i suggest rooting and just install francos kernel.i've tried every rom on this forum and for me i ALWAYS find my way back to stock for me it just feels the most fluid and everything works like it should. like me you dont play games or anything and im no app hoarder.that said stock rom with francos kernel gives me the best of everything including color/gamma tweaks to make your screen look better with his app.
with that said i suggest to check out different kernels
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Now, if we install franco's kernel onto the Stock ROM, will this prevent any future Google updates from being installed?
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Now, if we install franco's kernel onto the Stock ROM, will this prevent any future Google updates from being installed?
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Updates in any form will show up in the forum and no need to simply rely on Google for them. They have recently released an updated kernel which I see being implemented by some rom developers and kernel developers already. Let's understand what we have here guys, a community of constant building additions/updates to our phones. So updates should be the last thing for you to worry about IMO
Also to me OP some of the questions you asked can all be answered with a simple Google Search, not that the answers given here are wrong but you would probably find more in depth and uniformed answers by looking it up.. Quite sure its on a wiki somewhere...
playya said:
Updates in any form will show up in the forum and no need to simply rely on Google for them. They have recently released an updated kernel which I see being implemented by some rom developers and kernel developers already. Let's understand what we have here guys, a community of constant building additions/updates to our phones. So updates should be the last thing for you to worry about IMO
Also to me OP some of the questions you asked can all be answered with a simple Google Search, not that the answers given here are wrong but you would probably find more in depth and uniformed answers by looking it up.. Quite sure its on a wiki somewhere...
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I believe he means Google ota's and yes it can stop you from getting ota's. Any modification to system. Whether you added or removed something will fail. You would have to be on complete stock for it to work. Just download yourself a nexus 4 toolkit. The latest factory image, latest drivers, and make sure you backup your internal storage on your computer. Use the tool to return your phone back to stock. Of course whenever you feel is tge right time to do so.
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I believe he means Google ota's and yes it can stop you from getting ota's. Any modification to system. Whether you added or removed something will fail. You would have to be on complete stock for it to work. Just download yourself a nexus 4 toolkit. The latest factory image, latest drivers, and make sure you backup your internal storage on your computer. Use the tool to return your phone back to stock. Of course whenever you feel is tge right time to do so.
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Oh no I fully understood what he meant and my point was simply people unroot or stay stock to wait for an update. Whether you are rooted or not the update will find you in some form. Either with a rooted stock rom or a custom rom but rest assure that xda will not let an update happen and its not on everyone's phone :good:
Hi!
I got my Nexus 4 three days ago.
My Usage Specs -
I use my N4 mainly for internet ( WiFi, sometimes 2G ) and a little bit of gaming. I make occasional calls and text rarely.
I don't use WhatsApp or Facebook.
I'm using STOCK ROM+Kernel.
I'm getting around 10-12 hours of battery life, with 4-5 hours of screen-on time.
Now, I want to be able to over/under clock & volt my CPU+GPU. This is to increase battery life and increase performance, as required.
It looks like too much choice is very confusing. So, I'd like some experienced suggestions and recommendations.
So, which _ should I use? ( And, I've already narrowed down the choices a bit )
Kernel - Faux, Motley, Franco
ROM - AOSP(Stock), CyanogenMod, Paranoid Android, Xylon
Also, should I use Battery, CPU, RAM managers? If so, which ones?
What are some cool, useful N4 specific apps?
Any other tweaks and tips? - You can link to other xda threads, if available.
I will be unlocking and rooting tomorrow, once I decide which kernel+ROM to use.
Thanks!
Ram and battery managers are not necessary. You have 2GB of ram. Battery saver apps do not work. besides you said you're getting 4-5 hours of screen time. That's great!
Download greenify. It's a great app.
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OP, "best ROM/kernel" questions are not allowed here. You will have to experiment and see.
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Ram and battery managers are not necessary. You have 2GB of ram. Battery saver apps do not work. besides you said you're getting 4-5 hours of screen time. That's great!
Download greenify. It's a great app.
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That's cleared up some of my doubt. Thanks!
I'll try out greenify, too.
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OP, "best ROM/kernel" questions are not allowed here. You will have to experiment and see.
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Hi,
I understand that you are trying to prevent flame-wars and the like, however, I'm not looking for 'the best kernel/ROM'.
I want to know which combinations and configs other people have used, and I'd like some experienced suggestions.
I'm finding it confusing to differentiate between the variety of kernels and roms available, so I wanted some recommendations - preferably, with reasons.
Thanks!
arvindch said:
Hi,
understand that you are trying to prevent flame-wars and the like, however, I'm not looking for 'the best kernel/ROM'.
I want to know which combinations and configs other people have used, and I'd like some experienced suggestions.
I'm finding it confusing to differentiate between the variety of kernels and roms available, so I wanted some recommendations - preferably, with reasons.
Thanks!
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I use Paranoid Android with its stock kernel. For me, no other rom can compare to Pa on the nexus 4! Not even cyanogen mod is as fluid, stable, and efficient. With my current setup I get around 16 hours battery life (5:30 am-11ish pm), with ~5 hours screen on time. I don't use any task killers or memory managers. I just make sure to force close all my apps when I'm done with them, and I reboot the phone every 24 hours to keep it at its maximum performance. Although my usage is slightly different. I use my phone mainly to browse the Web, text and occasionally snap some pictures and check instagram. Hopefully this helps you out a bit
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I use Paranoid Android with its stock kernel. For me, no other rom can compare to Pa on the nexus 4! Not even cyanogen mod is as fluid, stable, and efficient. With my current setup I get around 16 hours battery life (5:30 am-11ish pm), with ~5 hours screen on time. I don't use any task killers or memory managers. I just make sure to force close all my apps when I'm done with them, and I reboot the phone every 24 hours to keep it at its maximum performance. Although my usage is slightly different. I use my phone mainly to browse the Web, text and occasionally snap some pictures and check instagram. Hopefully this helps you out a bit
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Thanks! This is exactly the sort of information I was hoping for.
I think I'll try out PA today.
Also, Have you tried other kernels?
arvindch said:
Thanks! This is exactly the sort of information I was hoping for.
I think I'll try out PA today.
Also, Have you tried other kernels?
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Trinity and Franco kernel works great with PA. And so does semaphore. I use Franco kernel mainly because I get more screen time than any other kernel I've used. Franco kernel delivers a balance between smoothness and great battery life.
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Trinity and Franco kernel works great with PA. And so does semaphore. I use Franco kernel mainly because I get more screen time than any other kernel I've used. Franco kernel delivers a balance between smoothness and great battery life.
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Okay, and you use PA too?
Also, how does the kernel affect smoothness? Shouldn't the performance be the same as long as you don't change clock speeds? Or is it due to the new governors that the kernel uses?
Also, what about motley kernel? The thread is very spartan, and I can't glean much info about it.
Has anyone tried Xylon? - it looks efficient.
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Okay, and you use PA too?
Also, how does the kernel affect smoothness? Shouldn't the performance be the same as long as you don't change clock speeds? Or is it due to the new governors that the kernel uses?
Also, what about motley kernel? The thread is very spartan, and I can't glean much info about it.
Has anyone tried Xylon? - it looks efficient.
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I've tried the Franco kernel before but I find the stock PA one to be perfect as far as colors go. I've never had an issue with smoothness using it and I don't even worry about clock speed or governors. As far as xylon goes, I found it to be very washed out using the stock kernel that comes with the rom, again in terms of display. When I ran xylon for a few days, I ran into a few hiccups in performance that weren't acknowledged, even when running with different kernels. I've also tried AOKP, Cyanogen, and axiom, but I always return back to paranoid
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I've tried the Franco kernel before but I find the stock PA one to be perfect as far as colors go. I've never had an issue with smoothness using it and I don't even worry about clock speed or governors. As far as xylon goes, I found it to be very washed out using the stock kernel that comes with the rom, again in terms of display. When I ran xylon for a few days, I ran into a few hiccups in performance that weren't acknowledged, even when running with different kernels. I've also tried AOKP, Cyanogen, and axiom, but I always return back to paranoid
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Okay, thanks. I'll experiment a bit, and see how it goes.
I've used PA before, on a HTC One V. It looks great, IMO too,
Try the matrix kernal
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HI!
So I have experimented and tested most of the major kernels and ROMs.
AND..... My selection/combo for now is:
kernel - Franco Milestone 2
ROM - Carbon 1.7
I tried Paranoid Android, but I didn't really like their interface adjustments.
And, just CyanogenMod is boring, IMO. Xylon, too.
Carbon has great customisation, and the specific adjustments that I like.
Thanks for the help!
Others - feel free to continue post your suggestions and recommendations for kernel+ROM combos.
arvindch said:
HI!
So I have experimented and tested most of the major kernels and ROMs.
AND..... My selection/combo for now is:
kernel - Franco Milestone 2
ROM - Carbon 1.7
I tried Paranoid Android, but I didn't really like their interface adjustments.
And, just CyanogenMod is boring, IMO. Xylon, too.
Carbon has great customisation, and the specific adjustments that I like.
Thanks for the help!
Others - feel free to continue post your suggestions and recommendations for kernel+ROM combos.
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Why not Franco R140? It's stable and a lot has changed since M2
sigma392 said:
Why not Franco R140? It's stable and a lot has changed since M2
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Oh, I wasn't really sure whether it was stable, so I went with the milestone release.
Also, What are prime drivers?
Thanks!
arvindch said:
Oh, I wasn't really sure whether it was stable, so I went with the milestone release.
Also, What are prime drivers?
Thanks!
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Drivers with code from Code Aurora. They *may* fix stuff like slow WiFi speeds and delayed notifications. I personally use them but if you don't experience any problem with WiFi then I suggest flashing the normal ones. :fingers-crossed:
Try Matr1x kernel, gave me the best results when I tried through different ones.
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Drivers with code from Code Aurora. They *may* fix stuff like slow WiFi speeds and delayed notifications. I personally use them but if you don't experience any problem with WiFi then I suggest flashing the normal ones. :fingers-crossed:
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I think I'll use the normal ones.
My internet speed is 4 Mbps and I don't use my WiFi to transfer files at all.
At the moment I'm getting the speeds I can technically get. So those won't help me, I guess.
Also, I've been running R140 without any problems for the last day.
Thanks!
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Try Matr1x kernel, gave me the best results when I tried through different ones.
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Really? Maybe I will.
How is battery life and performance compared to franco kernel?
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Really? Maybe I will.
How is battery life and performance compared to franco kernel?
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They're pretty much the same really. But Matr1x does wonders in benchmarks. I would love to use it however I need those Prima Drivers badly :S
Hey there
I'm about to flash a 6.0/M Rom on my Nexus 4 but first I'd like to hear from you how it is so far when it comes to battery life etc?
From what I've read everything seems to work?
Also there are quite a few roms already and I don't know what do load: Frank, Minimal OS, "Fake Nexus Rom"(?), Oneofakind?
Would any AOSP based Lollipop Kernel work? Oh and is there a M Rom that supports to use the volume rocker to change music? I guess Xposed isn't working yet?
Thanks in advance!
In this moment i am using Cataclysm ROM with HellsCore. Cataclysm works fine and it is very fast but sometimes there are some lags and whith HellsCore i have very battery life!! In this rom there is volume rocker and a lot of features... Sorry but i didn't try other M rom!
Thanks so far
I think you missed a word there. You have very ..battery life?
I've used Frank, Unofficial Chroma, Pure AOSP (I think this one is already dead) and Cataclysm . They all are based on AOSP with some added features, at this moment the one with more options/features by far is Cataclysm, Chroma have the menu of features but they are not implemented, just like 8 of them or something like that. Performance is good in all of them, most of the time just like lollipop, and yes there is some lag here an there from time to time but is not the end of the world. Battery life is something else, i am amused, im getting like an extra hour of SO and almost flat lines when not using the phone, i also have Greenify 2.7.1 installed, but i had it on Lollipop and Battery was meh, so it has to be Android M new battery management and stuff. Really Good battery life. Be aware, the is a AOSP bug related to the flashlight, if you turn on your torch from quick settings doesnt matter if you turn in off there is a wakelock that will keep your phone awake until your bateery drains or you fire up the flash with your camera or reboot. Is present in all ROMs at this time.
My current setup:
Cataclysm 11 Oct + 17 oct delta + 20Oct delta (In that Order, they are little zips you have to flash on top of the already installed rom, like an OTA of some sort).
HellsCore kernel b84-M (Has double tap to wake, youll need kernel adiutor to enable it and also tweak the kernel if you wish to - My kernel setup has no weird ****, it works out of the box, all stock, ondemand governor).
Extras:
Double Tap on Statusbar to Sleep Enabler for Android M MOD (Only for AOSP Roms)
New Adreno Drivers (October 2015)
I guess both will be added to roms eventually, but at the moment there not. Only Franks rom has the new adreno driver.
Sorry for my english.
Awesome that was detailed thank you! Hm the flashlight bug is bad .. I use it a lot. Maybe I will wait for a fix then
I'm thinking about trying http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/development/fake-nexus-rom-nexus-4-t3230268
It claims that torch bug is fixed and other bonuses like Camera can launch via double tap power key, adreno drivers, and aldy kernel.
That sounds pretty good as well. Btw are there any informations about xposed and Marshmallow? It took some time for Lollipop but maybe the differences now aren't as big?
rest0ck said:
Awesome that was detailed thank you! Hm the flashlight bug is bad .. I use it a lot. Maybe I will wait for a fix then
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Yesterday Cataclysm got a hotfix that solves that problem with the flashlight.
rest0ck said:
That sounds pretty good as well. Btw are there any informations about xposed and Marshmallow? It took some time for Lollipop but maybe the differences now aren't as big?
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This is the only info about xposed that we manage right now: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63188361&postcount=21
rest0ck said:
Thanks so far
I think you missed a word there. You have very ..battery life?
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Yes sorry....