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Yet another OTA question

I can't complete the ota update to gingerbread because I temprooted with visionary+ and used titanium to uninstall some pre-loaded apps. So, I figured if I reinstalled those apps the update should work, right?
I reinstalled the apps I got rid of except web2go. I found the web2goshortcut.apk and tried to reinstall it but it needs the odex as well. I've searched google for the odex and I can't find it anywhere.
My questions are, will what I'm doing even work and if so does anyone have the web2goshortcut.odex I could snag?
I know I could just factory reset but I'd like to avoid that if I can.
Thanks in advance.

Don't think it has anything to do with the apps you uninstalled. Might have something to do with being temp rooted. Have you tried to uninstall visionary, reboot, and then run update?
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Sorry about putting this in the wrong forum.
My phone isn't currently temprooted, I only did that when uninstalling the apps and then I unrooted.
The reason the ota is failing is because I'm getting a status 7 when it tries to update web2go because the app isn't there.

You'll have to put back stock Froyo to get past the error due to removed app and apply the OTA update.
However, if you had used temproot to disable apps only instead of removing them, the OTA updated would've succeeded AND the disabled apps would remain disabled, the setting is retained. So oddly, there's no advantage to removal vs disable except a small space savings, but a real disadvantage to full removal.
From HTC G2 with xda premium.

In retrospect I realize that removing the apps was a bad idea.
So it sounds like you guys are saying reinstalling the apps I removed won't work? If so I'll probably just root my phone instead of getting it back to stock.

Shouldn't matter whether you reinstall missing apps generating errors or the entire OEM ROM. I'd just do whichever is easier. Well, if you replace apps the OTA update will leave all settings, apps etc. as is so there's that to consider.
Thing is for the OTA update to 'think' you have stock Froyo. How you do that is up to you.
From HTC G2 with xda premium.

Wouldn't you have to install those apps back to the system folder? If you delete them, then install from the market, you are turning system apps into user apps... right guys?
He could use the update from the store sd cards, but that would lose all data. Double check that, sorry but I forgot how to fix stock problems a long time ago.
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[Q] Rooting safe for mom?

So I got mom and myself a Fire for Christmas, and I'm debating the effort involved with supporting Google Currents and Gmail on them both. Mainly what I'm worried about is how much maintenance I may have to do afterwards if I root, install the Google apps then unroot
I'm not a newb, but might be a novice still, I did root and re-rom my Galaxy Tab but that was nearly a year ago now, since then I haven't done anything other than use it and I'm hoping for a similar ability to just USE the Fire rather than tinker with it.
From others reporting, it sounds like there might be issues with updates from Amazon causing problems with software installed this way? Has anyone gone through an update cycle with this setup and had any problems getting back into Currents or Gmail?

We have seen that the OTA update does remove root. It is easy to reroot using SuperOneClick and takes less than 15 seconds since you already had it configured on your PC when you initially rooted.
Other than Market, No other apps were affected and I also still had the changes to build.prop. Apps that were manually installed into System/App may need to be reinstalled (like Market). You may want to install OTA RootKeeper apk in order to easily unroot to use Amazon VOD and reapply root when you need it. Using Titanium Backup, you can backup all your apps and restore in the event there is an OTA update which affects the Market. I used Titanium Backup to restore Market. Another handy apk is AppSaver.

I would root it, install what you want, then use otarootkeeper, which is in the Google market, and do a temporary unrest. That way she can not mess anything up. If you need to make changes that require root, it is as simple as clicking restore root in rootkeeper, and your back in business.
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Verizon G3 VS985 update not asking to download

I didnt see a thread already but my G3 started downloading an update this morning without me accepting or saying anything at all. Obviously with Root and TWRP(Bump) I did not want this. I pulled down the notification bar long pressed on the update download, hit app info, then force stopped the app. I went into Titanium backup, made a backup of System Updates 1_13_10_0 then uninstalled it. I don't know if the download will come back but I don't think so. Also the update was 220ish MB and I have no issues with the phone after uninstalling this. Sorry I didnt get a chance to take a picture of the update since it was almost done lol.

System Updates Frozen
I have the System Updates App frozen in Ti BU. Haven't gotten any hint of an update and I hope it stays that way.

Same thing happened to me it tried installing the update all on its own luckily it said waiting for wifi network to update so I froze the system updates app with titanium back up.

RyanEJ25, I experienced the same thing as you. I have a Verizon LG G3 (vs985), rooted.
Trying to get more info on this system update and what it contains. I don't think it's Android 5.0 lollipop update, but more like a Verizon bug update/improvements.
I tried to run the system update that was downloaded via WIFI, but it failed due to my LG g3 being rooted.
Before I go down the path of backing everything, unrooting and upgrading and then re-rooting, just wanted to make sure the update is worthwhile.
-Kevin
RyanEJ25 said:
I didnt see a thread already but my G3 started downloading an update this morning without me accepting or saying anything at all. Obviously with Root and TWRP(Bump) I did not want this. I pulled down the notification bar long pressed on the update download, hit app info, then force stopped the app. I went into Titanium backup, made a backup of System Updates 1_13_10_0 then uninstalled it. I don't know if the download will come back but I don't think so. Also the update was 220ish MB and I have no issues with the phone after uninstalling this. Sorry I didnt get a chance to take a picture of the update since it was almost done lol.
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trailrunner76 said:
RyanEJ25, I experienced the same thing as you. I have a Verizon LG G3 (vs985), rooted.
Trying to get more info on this system update and what it contains. I don't think it's Android 5.0 lollipop update, but more like a Verizon bug update/improvements.
I tried to run the system update that was downloaded via WIFI, but it failed due to my LG g3 being rooted.
Before I go down the path of backing everything, unrooting and upgrading and then re-rooting, just wanted to make sure the update is worthwhile.
-Kevin
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The main thing that threw me off was that USB charge modes have changed. Charge and internet connection are removed from PC connections other than that its general improvements to the keyboard and docs and stuff.

You can temp unroot, take the update, then reroot assuming Verizon didn't load a bullet that kills root.
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I'd tend to avoid the update, at least for now, if you want to keep root and twrp. Seems to be a number of people mentioning issues, including trouble reverting to 10b.
I also froze "System updates" with TiBU, going to stay on 10b until things clear up. Freezing that app seems to do the trick.

Why are you posting here, instead of the Verizon forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general
If you take the update, you can't re-root and you can't roll back.
Some people have maintained root after updating.

how to delete the LG made backup when updating to Lollipop?

Hi,
I was on stock 4.4 (with root), I have just updated to stock 5.0.2. When updating, I was asked if I wanted a backup, I said yes.
Update was fine, and of course I lost root. I prefer not to get root again. Now I am getting low on space, I see in Storage and Misc category has 7.1GB, and inside that System Data is 5.6GB. I suspect this is at least in part the backup...
Any idea how to delete the backup? I looked in LG Backup Service but it only lets you BAckup or REstore, no delete old bakcups. ...
This is getting to worry me.
thanks!

vadexlux said:
Hi,
I was on stock 4.4 (with root), I have just updated to stock 5.0.2. When updating, I was asked if I wanted a backup, I said yes.
Update was fine, and of course I lost root. I prefer not to get root again. Now I am getting low on space, I see in Storage and Misc category has 7.1GB, and inside that System Data is 5.6GB. I suspect this is at least in part the backup...
Any idea how to delete the backup? I looked in LG Backup Service but it only lets you BAckup or REstore, no delete old bakcups. ...
This is getting to worry me.
thanks!
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Either ROOT your device again and manually empty it or Try Factory Reset your device. Misc category would show what's in your Internal Memory and not in System.
During Upgrading, Backup option lets you backup your media, certain apps etc. Its nothing like you couldn't recover. Just wipe your device again, no harm but make sure you've all your media or contacts backed up somewhere.

Possible to copy app data from Oreo 6P to Nougat S8+?

So I bought a Galaxy S8+ (7.0) to replace my 6P (8.0), and I'm trying to copy my app data over. Not having any luck. Any suggestions for how to do it? The apps themselves are no big deal, I can download from the Play Store, but I want my data.
6P is still completely stock - locked bootloader, so I would have to erase it to root. This would defeat the purpose. If there is a way to do a complete backup, root, and restore so I could use TiBu that would be awesome.
I do have Google apps backup enabled, and I have a backup on Drive that I can find and see all my apps. However, according to this link you can't restore from a newer version of Android to an older one. It never gives me the option to restore when I add my Google account to the new phone, and I can't find a way to restore from Drive on the new phone, even though I can see all the apps in the backup. Downloading apps from the store doesn't restore their data either. I can't downgrade my 6P back to Nougat without root either.
I tried Helium Backup, but it just simply doesn't work. As evidenced by many comments on the Play Store it doesn't work on the 6P.
Am I just stuck? I would think there would be a better solution than this.

You tried helium backup this way I guess ???
https://www.androidpit.com/how-to-backup-and-restore-app-data-with-or-without-root
There are not many ways to do, you could try Holo or super backup.
That's why we root

coremania said:
You tried helium backup this way I guess ???
https://www.androidpit.com/how-to-backup-and-restore-app-data-with-or-without-root
There are not many ways to do, you could try Holo or super backup.
That's why we root
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The problem I am having with Helium backup is that it just doesn't seem to work. If I connect through port 5000 from my PC (PC download) and tell it to backup then it just sits there and says "waiting for [IP address]" and never comes back to save anything. If I try to backup to the device, it does a couple of different things - it comes up and asks for my device password (which I put in settings) and then it fills in the password for me, but then either the "Back Up My Data" is grayed out or it sits on that screen, fills in the password, and then the apps start cycling through while it is adding characters to the password, then it gets stuck and stops. I have to reboot the phone to reset the backup to try again. (It's not locked up, just Helium is stuck.)
I'll look into Holo and Super Backup.
Followup: No go on the others. It says Holo can only be used to restore to the same device, and Super Backup needs root to backup the app data.

Bad for you, I doubt there is way for you to backup with a locked bootloader if none of the apps are working.
The only way to root a phone without a patched boot.img (SuperSU and magisk) is to use kingroot, but I highly doubt this will work. Do yourself a favor and root your s8 to avoid this the next time.
https://consumingtech.com/install-kingroot-android-8-0-oreo-apk-app-for-android-mobile/
Try it, I never thought I would link something like that

Matthew Carson said:
So I bought a Galaxy S8+ (7.0) to replace my 6P (8.0), and I'm trying to copy my app data over. Not having any luck. Am I just stuck?
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Yes, pretty much. Google restore is decent in getting your new device close to where it was, but app data (especially for non-Google apps) can be a problem. Sometimes the app has a dedicated folder and you can try copying that over. This worked for me once long ago with WhatsApp before it had it's own backup capability. After the Google restore, exactly which apps are you needing saved data for? Someone may be able to chime in if it is a specific game or well known app. Now that root is available for S8+ you should do that asap before getting it all set up the way you want it. It's only painful one time, but then you will have access to TiBu and all the other "essential" root apps.

v12xke said:
Yes, pretty much. Google restore is decent in getting your new device close to where it was, but app data (especially for non-Google apps) can be a problem. Sometimes the app has a dedicated folder and you can try copying that over. This worked for me once long ago with WhatsApp before it had it's own backup capability. After the Google restore, exactly which apps are you needing saved data for? Someone may be able to chime in if it is a specific game or well known app. Now that root is available for S8+ you should do that asap before getting it all set up the way you want it. It's only painful one time, but then you will have access to TiBu and all the other "essential" root apps.
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The problem is that Google restore didn't work either since it was going from an Oreo device to a Nougat device. I didn't think backing up was a big deal since Google is supposed to handle it, but it's not doing me any good at all. I couldn't do a full restore from the phone, and when I reinstall apps from the Play Store it doesn't include the data. Most things have accounts so I can set it back up again, but all of my preferences and settings for every app are gone. I'm pretty much having to go through app by app and reconfigure everything. Plus I have lost high scores and low times for several games...
My only concern with rooting the S8+ is that I have seen that it makes Android Pay not work, and some people say the Play Store has issues. Is that true? I've just begun researching it.

Matthew Carson said:
...My only concern with rooting the S8+ is that I have seen that it makes Android Pay not work, and some people say the Play Store has issues. Is that true? I've just begun researching it.
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I'm afraid I can't be of much help because I don't use Android Pay or Samsung devices (except the Galaxy Nexus which was great) ...but both Pay and PlayStore seem to be working fine on most rooted devices. I have never had a PS issue due to my phone being rooted. I just know I won't be without root because the root apps I use are more important to me in every day use. It's up to the individual to decide whether root is right for them, or not. I suggest hanging out in the Sammy board here on XDA, read and ask questions until you know what you want to do. BUT what I said earlier is true and most will vouch for me... make the decision asap, because unlocking and rooting will require wiping the phone.
Edit: Side note... just found this article which doesn't help you, but it does raise a question: Did you initiate the restore during the initial setup process on the S8+ or afterwards? If afterwards, wiping the phone and trying Google restore again may work.

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