Hi,
I was on stock 4.4 (with root), I have just updated to stock 5.0.2. When updating, I was asked if I wanted a backup, I said yes.
Update was fine, and of course I lost root. I prefer not to get root again. Now I am getting low on space, I see in Storage and Misc category has 7.1GB, and inside that System Data is 5.6GB. I suspect this is at least in part the backup...
Any idea how to delete the backup? I looked in LG Backup Service but it only lets you BAckup or REstore, no delete old bakcups. ...
This is getting to worry me.
thanks!
vadexlux said:
Hi,
I was on stock 4.4 (with root), I have just updated to stock 5.0.2. When updating, I was asked if I wanted a backup, I said yes.
Update was fine, and of course I lost root. I prefer not to get root again. Now I am getting low on space, I see in Storage and Misc category has 7.1GB, and inside that System Data is 5.6GB. I suspect this is at least in part the backup...
Any idea how to delete the backup? I looked in LG Backup Service but it only lets you BAckup or REstore, no delete old bakcups. ...
This is getting to worry me.
thanks!
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Either ROOT your device again and manually empty it or Try Factory Reset your device. Misc category would show what's in your Internal Memory and not in System.
During Upgrading, Backup option lets you backup your media, certain apps etc. Its nothing like you couldn't recover. Just wipe your device again, no harm but make sure you've all your media or contacts backed up somewhere.
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Hey there, i have my phone rooted, i have installed the OTA update, and i have slowly removed some bloat through titanium backup.
i am still experiencing quite a bit of lag, and want to factory reset my phone, then see if that helps. i want all my data to stay though, can i just back it all up through keis? or is there an easier way?
Dallenn said:
Hey there, i have my phone rooted, i have installed the OTA update, and i have slowly removed some bloat through titanium backup.
i am still experiencing quite a bit of lag, and want to factory reset my phone, then see if that helps. i want all my data to stay though, can i just back it all up through keis? or is there an easier way?
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I personally use Titanium Backup Pro (if you haven't bought Pro yet, it's totally worth it - it has saved my @$$ countless times!). I Haven't actually uninstalled any bloatware, but frozen plenty of it. This made it really, really easy to get the OTA installed - all I had to do was unfreeze the 3 magic APKs that let me install the OTA, and even kept the rest frozen. Re-froze when done with OTA.
I have two sets of Titanium Backup backups right now:
- A backup of all system apps plus data. I would never want to restore my system apps, unless I get bored and start modding stuff later. I figured I'd just snag a backup NOW in case it ever comes down to that - I'd be able to theoretically restore a single broken APK, or manually extract the apks out of the backup files later.
- A backup of all my user apps plus data. Be careful not to ever restore system app backups, even the "green" or "yellow" ones in TiBu. Rarely, you can get away with restoring these (like SMS, or WiFi access points, or sometimes even the System Settings), but it's usually asking for trouble. If you're going from the same ROM to the same ROM without any version change, it's usually "okay" to try. Otherwise, use extreme discretion and be prepared for weird behavior.
So to answer your question, I would recommend using Titanium Backup Pro to keep data backed up. If you're thorough and have the patience, you can effectively backup all of your data, individually, for all of your apps and your system settings. I'm actually planning on doing a data wipe for good measure (haven't done so yet since I got the OTA), and this is how I plan to restore all my data and settings.
My Nexus 10 had two user accounts, mine and my wife's. I was the primary account.
I had a bunch of trouble with the Kit Kat OTA install (see my other thread) so I ended up using WUG's Toolkit to restore root and then did a nandroid backup as well as backing up data/media with the Toolkit. I tried to backup the apps with the Toolkit but it wouldn't work for a bulk or single app backup (would complete immediately and be a 0 kb file). I used Titanium Backup to backup all of the apps in my account.
At no point was I ever given an option to back up files for my wife's user account (I'm the main account, she's got a secondary user account). I tried to log into her account and do a Ti Backup but her account didn't have root. I tried to get root with the toolkit while logged into her account and it wouldn't work and didn't give me the impression that it was supposed to work on the secondary account so I assumed (hoped) that her account was included in the backups I already had.
So after all of this backing up, I flashed stock Kit Kat + Root with the toolkit. Everything is up and running properly but it appears I've got NO backup files for my wife's account (other than the Nandroid (maybe)but I'm not aware of any way to use that without screwing up my clean install of Kit Kat).
So my question is, what is the proper way to backup a device with multiple user accounts so it can be restored after a wipe? Also, if a Nandroid backup is done on a buggy/screwed up firmware upgrade, can the Nandroid still be used to restore the device after the firmware is flashed clean/working properly or will the Nandroid bring back the bugs it had before the wipe/install? If so, the Nandroid backup would include my wife's user account correct? Thanks.
Nobody knows how this works?
Cliff-Notes:
--What is the proper way to backup a device with multiple user accounts so it can be restored after a wipe?
--If a Nandroid backup is done on a buggy/screwed up firmware upgrade, can the Nandroid still be used to restore the device after the firmware is flashed clean/working properly or will the Nandroid bring back the bugs it had before the wipe/install?
--If so, the Nandroid backup would include my wife's user account data correct? Thanks.
I would think a backup made from recovery would copy all data regardless of how many accounts you have and would restore it all just as it was.
Recovery/nandroid backups are account insensitive in that its a low level blanket backup of all data and settings.
Backup of a buggy system will result in buggy restore of system
planet_x69 said:
I would think a backup made from recovery would copy all data regardless of how many accounts you have and would restore it all just as it was.
Recovery/nandroid backups are account insensitive in that its a low level blanket backup of all data and settings.
Backup of a buggy system will result in buggy restore of system
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Thanks, so if I restore using my Nandroid backup of the buggy system, the end result will be a buggy system again correct?
So the only option to backup multiple accounts on a buggy system and be able to restore it later and not end up with a buggy system would be to make a backup in custom recovery (TWRP or CWM)?
Stinger2300 said:
Thanks, so if I restore using my Nandroid backup of the buggy system, the end result will be a buggy system again correct?
So the only option to backup multiple accounts on a buggy system and be able to restore it later and not end up with a buggy system would be to make a backup in custom recovery (TWRP or CWM)?
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No recovery (custom or other) can make a clean backup out of a preexisting buggy system.
The important bits you really need is your data, the system will be your apps and kernel etc.
One can usually make a clean backup of the data, flash to stock, reload apps and flash data go about your business as if nothing had happened.
Once the system gets buggy and you have no backups, unless you know exactly what caused the bugs and know what to uninstall or what to install to patch/repair using adb or other, you will need to flash a clean system to restore.
OK, I've got a clean install now, I'm just trying to figure out if I have any way to restore my data from the backups I have. Sounds like my data/media backup from the toolkit may do the trick.
planet_x69 said:
The important bits you really need is your data, the system will be your apps and kernel etc.
One can usually make a clean backup of the data, flash to stock, reload apps and flash data go about your business as if nothing had happened..
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Regarding this statement, I've done the toolkit "Restore Data/Media" and it didn't bring back the second user account, nor did it restore game saves (Real Racing, TrialX2, etc.) in my account. In Titanium Backup, I have the option to "Restore All Apps With Data" or "Restore All System Data". I did the "all apps with data" option and it brought back my game saves but nothing in the second user account.
Here is the weird part though. Restoring app data from Titanium also restored the "buggy" issues. The home button no longer works, the second user account can't be accessed, the lock screen is gone, etc.
Any idea what app data would cause this?
Is there a fix other than flashing stock and starting over again?
Stinger2300 said:
Regarding this statement, I've done the toolkit "Restore Data/Media" and it didn't bring back the second user account, nor did it restore game saves (Real Racing, TrialX2, etc.) in my account. In Titanium Backup, I have the option to "Restore All Apps With Data" or "Restore All System Data". I did the "all apps with data" option and it brought back my game saves but nothing in the second user account.
Here is the weird part though. Restoring app data from Titanium also restored the "buggy" issues. The home button no longer works, the second user account can't be accessed, the lock screen is gone, etc.
Any idea what app data would cause this?
Is there a fix other than flashing stock and starting over again?
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Toolkit or Titanium backups are NOT the same as nandroid backups.
The nandroid backup will backup all data regardless of how many accounts you have installed.
Titanium and other OS level tools are not account agnostic. TB though I believe has an account option but shouldnt be used as primary system backup tool. Always use your recovery based backup as your primary data recovery tool.
I'm thinking about finally moving to 4.3 using a custom ROM (haven't decided which one yet). I have Titanium Backup Pro and plan to restore all my apps and settings after the upgrade. Is this process likely to end in a stable system? I don't have the time and patience to go through installing and configuring everything again, so if it's not a dependable process I might as well wait for the OTA update (and deal with Knox later...)
Thanks!
Don't worry, this is what I did all is fine.
Before anything, make a backup of your internal SD (just in case), EFS backup and all apps with Titanium. Then in Phils recovery select option to erase everything for new ROM flashing. I also did manual wipe of cache & dalvik just in case. Don't worry, your internal card won't be touched, but always better safe than sorry. Then flash MJ5 kernel, and finaly flash your chosen ROM. Then you can restore apps from titanium. I had like 2 apps that didn't work at all after restore, probably incompatible with 4.3. The system is stable 100%. Never had a reboot.
Thank you Dalanik. This is very encouraging to know.
oren_b said:
I'm thinking about finally moving to 4.3 using a custom ROM (haven't decided which one yet). I have Titanium Backup Pro and plan to restore all my apps and settings after the upgrade. Is this process likely to end in a stable system? I don't have the time and patience to go through installing and configuring everything again, so if it's not a dependable process I might as well wait for the OTA update (and deal with Knox later...)
Thanks!
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Did you try it? How did it go?
I had faced a lot of issues when I did this recently. My contacts and message apps started to crash. Could have been OS problem no idea, but I was losing all my messages and my contacts. Ended up using super backup and import/export feature. Then on TB i restored only the apps and not the settings or system data. Now its perfectly stable, no crashes whatsoever
If you erase phone completely for flashing, contacts will be restored automaticaly from google contacts, but I'm afraid SMSes won't. That's another thing worth backing up. I used SMS BAckup and Restore, works perfectly, although you can also use Titanium as well.
Sorry if there is a similar question with answer (I was not able to find it).
I just rooted and upgraded from stock 4.4 to 5.1 Android. I was using Go Backup (as always did, for few years now, with many phones) and never had a problem. This time, though, I tried to restore backup, but only got apps, and not DATA... I tried different 5.1 ROM, and the result was the same.
I returned to 4.4 ROM where I was able to restore apps and data without any problems. Then, I backed up everything with TItanium Backup and MyBackup, again flashed 5.1 ROM. Go Backup will, again, just restore Apps, but neither Titanium, nor MyBackup will have their Backup folders... I tried to access those via File Managers, but was not able to find them :/
I read something about changed directories for data in Lollipop, but, is there a fix for this problem?
P.S. I'm using D802, 32GB version.
Hello All!
Before you tell me to search or check threads, I already have. This problem does not have anything to do with forgetting to disable the pins and fingerprints before backing up. My problem has do do with I have already disabled/removed security before backing up my nandroid. I check/select everything that I can to backup and it successfully completes. When I go to restore, everything looks to be properly restored, but alas, there is a problem. When I reboot, it asks me for a password to get into TWRP (apparently "default_password). But when I get in and go to file explorer to find anything, my entire storage is wiped. Like no OS or any files. The only other issue I've had besides this is when restoring a nandroid, it doesn't complete and reboots to a bootloop.
I am on the newest version of TWRP, 3.0.3-0. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I, and anyone who has had to redo the complete phone setup/customization, do not enjoy taking over an hour to get things back up and running. Cruddy thing is I did a Titanium Backup for my apps and settings, but they got wiped.
boostin91tsi01 said:
Hello All!
Before you tell me to search or check threads, I already have. This problem does not have anything to do with forgetting to disable the pins and fingerprints before backing up. My problem has do do with I have already disabled/removed security before backing up my nandroid. I check/select everything that I can to backup and it successfully completes. When I go to restore, everything looks to be properly restored, but alas, there is a problem. When I reboot, it asks me for a password to get into TWRP (apparently "default_password). But when I get in and go to file explorer to find anything, my entire storage is wiped. Like no OS or any files. The only other issue I've had besides this is when restoring a nandroid, it doesn't complete and reboots to a bootloop.
I am on the newest version of TWRP, 3.0.3-0. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I, and anyone who has had to redo the complete phone setup/customization, do not enjoy taking over an hour to get things back up and running. Cruddy thing is I did a Titanium Backup for my apps and settings, but they got wiped.
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I am genuinely interested in this because I back up on a regular basis after each security update but I have never had to restore. Now it is my understanding that even if security is disable the data is still encrypted. Perhaps I'm wrong about that but if you ever did have a password or pin to log into the phone with have you tried to enter that into TWRP?
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You only need to back up the defaults... system, data, and boot.
What should I back up in TWRP?
https://twrp.me/faq/whattobackup.html
redduc900 said:
You only need to back up the defaults... system, data, and boot.
What should I back up in TWRP?
https://twrp.me/faq/whattobackup.html
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I understand the web is full of opinions, but I've read somewhere to backup EFS? I have also read somewhere before that what you said to backup, while is plenty sufficient, if you have space, to backup everything. I followed that and it lead me to an hour plus of restoring back to how it was. I will give it a go, hoping that I never have to use it, but it will work when the situation arises.
I've only ever backed up those three partitions, and never had an issue with restoring backups. You can certainly create a backup of the EFS/IMEI, but keep it stored in a safe place like on your computer or a thumb drive. One thing I should note is when restoring a backup, make sure to also flash the correct vendor.img if necessary.
I usually backup vendor with it but as earlier indicated I don't believe it's completely necessary. As far as EFS is concerned yes I would agree with backing that up however what I do is back it up to a separate backup folder and only write it if something were to ever happen to it otherwise leave it alone. That way you don't take a chance I'm corrupting something in that partition.
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I've never successfully restored a backup on the Nexus 6P regardless of what version of TWRP I used. Different builds of TWRP give me different problems but none has ever worked. I've completely given up doing nandroid backups on this phone because it's a waste of time and disc space. I never had a similar issue on any other phone that I have ever owned and am not a newbie when it comes to rooting and custom roms. What I always ended up doing after a problem restoring a backup is flash the complete factory image using the flash-all.bat command and start over with everything I want to flash.
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I've never successfully restored a backup on the Nexus 6P regardless of what version of TWRP I used. Different builds of TWRP give me different problems but none has ever worked. I've completely given up doing nandroid backups on this phone because it's a waste of time and disc space. I never had a similar issue on any other phone that I have ever owned and am not a newbie when it comes to rooting and custom roms. What I always ended up doing after a problem restoring a backup is flash the complete factory image using the flash-all.bat command and start over with everything I want to flash.
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I have the same problem, so now I've started doing a TiBU and Verizon Messages backup, after all those are completed, transfer and save it to my PC. If I have any problems, I transfer from the PC to phone and it's less headache... kinda sorta.
Restore never worked to the fullest. I tried different versions of TWRP, same problem. Restore starts a red error line in beginning of the restore process an at the end it shows ‘Restore complete’. When I restart, everything looks restored but with bugs like:
-network or sim itself is not shown
-Bluetooth, wifi wont connect
-Quicksetting tiles not responding etc…
The idea of backing up via TWRP is to get every bit RESTORED properly, but it doesn’t work.
I take a full back up before moving to update the firmware version (example MIUI 10), if I do not like the firmware then I want to go back to the previous firmware version (example MIUI 9) and TWRP RESTORE feature never works. I have to again flash the rom and then restore everything via Titanium backup.
I always take a TWRP backup of all the items available:
System
Data
Cache
Cust
Recovery
Boot
EFS
Persist
Still it never restores properly. It’s a mere time waste or the restore option to be removed from TWRP as it never worked across of its versions.
Can anyone explain me in a line, what is Cust, EFS and Persist?
I really appreciate if anyone help me understand where I’m going wrong.