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Yet another OTA question

I can't complete the ota update to gingerbread because I temprooted with visionary+ and used titanium to uninstall some pre-loaded apps. So, I figured if I reinstalled those apps the update should work, right?
I reinstalled the apps I got rid of except web2go. I found the web2goshortcut.apk and tried to reinstall it but it needs the odex as well. I've searched google for the odex and I can't find it anywhere.
My questions are, will what I'm doing even work and if so does anyone have the web2goshortcut.odex I could snag?
I know I could just factory reset but I'd like to avoid that if I can.
Thanks in advance.

Don't think it has anything to do with the apps you uninstalled. Might have something to do with being temp rooted. Have you tried to uninstall visionary, reboot, and then run update?
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Sorry about putting this in the wrong forum.
My phone isn't currently temprooted, I only did that when uninstalling the apps and then I unrooted.
The reason the ota is failing is because I'm getting a status 7 when it tries to update web2go because the app isn't there.

You'll have to put back stock Froyo to get past the error due to removed app and apply the OTA update.
However, if you had used temproot to disable apps only instead of removing them, the OTA updated would've succeeded AND the disabled apps would remain disabled, the setting is retained. So oddly, there's no advantage to removal vs disable except a small space savings, but a real disadvantage to full removal.
From HTC G2 with xda premium.

In retrospect I realize that removing the apps was a bad idea.
So it sounds like you guys are saying reinstalling the apps I removed won't work? If so I'll probably just root my phone instead of getting it back to stock.

Shouldn't matter whether you reinstall missing apps generating errors or the entire OEM ROM. I'd just do whichever is easier. Well, if you replace apps the OTA update will leave all settings, apps etc. as is so there's that to consider.
Thing is for the OTA update to 'think' you have stock Froyo. How you do that is up to you.
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Wouldn't you have to install those apps back to the system folder? If you delete them, then install from the market, you are turning system apps into user apps... right guys?
He could use the update from the store sd cards, but that would lose all data. Double check that, sorry but I forgot how to fix stock problems a long time ago.
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[Q] Can't install latest OTA update after unroot

Hey guys,
So I've googled around for this issue but I still have a question that no other thread I've found seems to answer.
A few weeks ago I rooted my Razr M. I froze a couple of the verizon apps (like the google chrome bookmarks) and backed up and deleted the amazon apps, IMDB, and Audible apps with titanium. When the new OTA was released this week I restored and thawed all of those apps, but the OTA wouldn't install. It reached about 1/4 through the bar of Andy and then he would be on his side with the caution sign. The phone would reboot and say that the installation failed. I decided to unroot, thinking that may have been the cause, but I still got the same error. From there I did a factory reset, and I'm still getting the same error.
Here's my question: I saw on a couple threads that a factory reset doesn't restore everything in /system, which is where I'm worried there's a discrepancy that isn't allowing the update. Is there a way to do a harder reset that will completely bring the phone back to stock?
I'm currently on System version 98.12.4.XT907.Verizon.en.US if that helps. Android 4.1.1. Baseband version is SM_BP_1139.000.32.62P.

JadedRescue said:
Hey guys,
So I've googled around for this issue but I still have a question that no other thread I've found seems to answer.
A few weeks ago I rooted my Razr M. I froze a couple of the verizon apps (like the google chrome bookmarks) and backed up and deleted the amazon apps, IMDB, and Audible apps with titanium. When the new OTA was released this week I restored and thawed all of those apps, but the OTA wouldn't install. It reached about 1/4 through the bar of Andy and then he would be on his side with the caution sign. The phone would reboot and say that the installation failed. I decided to unroot, thinking that may have been the cause, but I still got the same error. From there I did a factory reset, and I'm still getting the same error.
Here's my question: I saw on a couple threads that a factory reset doesn't restore everything in /system, which is where I'm worried there's a discrepancy that isn't allowing the update. Is there a way to do a harder reset that will completely bring the phone back to stock?
I'm currently on System version 98.12.4.XT907.Verizon.en.US if that helps. Android 4.1.1. Baseband version is SM_BP_1139.000.32.62P.
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Sounds like you did not defrost those system apps using titanium backup before you factory reset. I would restore from your stock backup and unfreeze those apps with titanium and try the ota again. The OTA checks for certain bloatware apps before it will allow it to install the update.

slogar25 said:
Sounds like you did not defrost those system apps using titanium backup before you factory reset. I would restore from your stock backup and unfreeze those apps with titanium and try the ota again. The OTA checks for certain bloatware apps before it will allow it to install the update.
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I definitely did defrost those apps.

I'm having the same issue. Stops at about 1/4 of the way and then restarts. I'm gonna try it again without my Rogers(non-verizon) sim card and see if it works. Maybe it checks which sim card is being used.
EDIT: Didn't work, sim card irrelevant.

If you really want the ota then why don't you try mattlgroff's utility here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39576818
It will return you back to completely stock with one click and then you should be able to take the ota and reroot unlock if desired
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RSD
vLegend said:
I'm having the same issue. Stops at about 1/4 of the way and then restarts. I'm gonna try it again without my Rogers(non-verizon) sim card and see if it works. Maybe it checks which sim card is being used.
EDIT: Didn't work, sim card irrelevant.
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I tried using Mattlgroff's method (which i'm sure is fine for most) but seems to be geared towards linux users mostly, and I ran into some issues. I have always used RSD to get back to stock and never had an issue. Check it out How To Restore Stock Firmware on Razr M. This will hard restore your phone to the factory image, as well as unroot it, no need to unfreeze or reinstall bloat. It will also obviously erase the internal SD card contents so make sure you back those up.

Yeah looks like slogar25 and cliMAKtic are right. I tried a few more things and its not working. I'll do an rsd in the next couple days and try the ota again.

I'm going to try rsd sometime tonight, I'll let everyone know how it goes. Thanks for all the help!!

I like rsd too. The point is to return too stock.
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Same issue, stops 1/4 of the way through.
Flashing back to stock with the RAZR M utility 1.10 once my phone hits 100% battery (at 93% now). Will let you know if I can take the update after.

Keep in mind
RSD is great to get back to clean stock, but keep in mind that it will remove your root. After taking the OTA update, you will be running firmware v4.1.2. If you used MotoFail2Go exploit to root your phone originally you should note that the exploit apparently does not work for the updated firmware. Instead you should use motochopper, an updated exploit that works on 4.1.2 to root your phone, developed by Drjbliss over at Droidrzr.

I honestly don't care too much about being unrooted at this point anyway, having root wasn't doing too much for me. I managed to get back to the original stock ICS using RSD and everything worked out! Downloaded one update to 4.1.1, then the second update to 4.1.2, and everything went swimmingly.
Thank you so much for all your help everyone!

update on stock rooted

I am on stock rooted MK2 with TWRP recovery installed. I woke up this morning to see that my phone had automatically downloaded the new system sfotware(i assume 4.4.2). The notification cant be removed from the notification bar and just says click to install. i dont want 4.4.2. My wife updated her s4 and it caused all sorts of minor issues with it. She was not rooted however. How can I get rid of the downloaded update and the notification? Also, is there a setting I can change so it wont try to automatically download updates in the future?
thanks

dbenney said:
I am on stock rooted MK2 with TWRP recovery installed. I woke up this morning to see that my phone had automatically downloaded the new system sfotware(i assume 4.4.2). The notification cant be removed from the notification bar and just says click to install. i dont want 4.4.2. My wife updated her s4 and it caused all sorts of minor issues with it. She was not rooted however. How can I get rid of the downloaded update and the notification? Also, is there a setting I can change so it wont try to automatically download updates in the future?
thanks
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Im sure I will be needing the same information as I am still on 4.3 and want to stay here also, I can tell you I had the same thing with my Galaxy S2 and I remember I had to do something in Titanium backup to stop the update process, but I cant remember the exact steps.
I will be watching this thread closely, Thanks for asking the question!

Search fellas. On the notification . press and hold it. Then you should get a popup of "app info" select it and uncheck "show notification". This will get rid of the annoying update notifications. You can also delete the file from system although I am forgetting right now where.
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daniel4653 said:
Search fellas. On the notification . press and hold it. Then you should get a popup of "app info" select it and uncheck "show notification". This will get rid of the annoying update notifications. You can also delete the file from system although I am forgetting right now where.
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Did that and deleted the file! It downloads it back and the notifications resurrects again.
I froze Configupdater, Sprint Installer, System Update
Disabled System Update on start up.
Dunno what else can stop this OTA notification!!
For me it's even more dangerous because I have the 720T running sacs for 720, hence the update that the system is trying to intsall is the NAE not NAF.
To be on safe side I'm thinking unroot and get to stock MK5 then upgrade to NAF then flash sacs again. This way the update notification will go away. Tedious but thats the only way I think I can get rid of this annoying notification.
Any thoughts?? Keep in mind I'm on 720T

frukyyy said:
Did that and deleted the file! It downloads it back and the notifications resurrects again.
I froze Configupdater, Sprint Installer, System Update
Disabled System Update on start up.
Dunno what else can stop this OTA notification!!
For me it's even more dangerous because I have the 720T running sacs for 720, hence the update that the system is trying to intsall is the NAE not NAF.
To be on safe side I'm thinking unroot and get to stock MK5 then upgrade to NAF then flash sacs again. This way the update notification will go away. Tedious but thats the only way I think I can get rid of this annoying notification.
Any thoughts?? Keep in mind I'm on 720T
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interesting... I had recently ODIN'd back to stock and saferoot'd before calling it a day and woke up in the morning to an update. I also know that the update only downloads if you're on wi-fi. I know before I ODIN'd I was already saferoot'd with a whole bunch of crapware "frozen" by TiBackup and I never got the update. not exactly sure which crapware I froze, but I did it again this time around and I still haven't seen an update message for the past week. below is a list of what I froze... if you have the time to weed out the exact crapware needed to disable the update, please let me know! would be nice to uninstall the crapware that wont affect the update from happening while cleaning up the rest of the crapware.
1Weather
ANT HAL Service
ANT Radio Service
ANT+ Plugins
BaconReader
BlurbCheckout
Bubbles
CBS Sports
com.sec.enterprise.knox.attestation
com.sec.knox.eventsmanager
eBay
EpsonPrintService
Flipboard
Google Play Books
Google Play Games
Google Play Magazines
Google Play Movies & TV
Google Play Music
Group Play
HP Print Service Plugin
KLMS Agent
KNOX
KNOX Store
Lookout Security
Lumen Toolbar
Messaging+
Mobeam Service Application
Mobile Print
MobilePrintSvc_CUPS
MobilePrintSvc_CUPS_Backend
Phase Beam
Samsung Apps Widget
Samsung Books
Samsung Games
Samsung Hub
Samsung Music
Samsung Print Service
Samsung Video
Samsung WatchON
Samsung WatchON Video
SamsungHub Updater
Share music
Share video
Smart Device Manager
SNS
Sprint - Discover Apps
Sprint Music Plus
Sprint TV & Movies
Story Album
Story Album Widget
TalkBack
Weather Widget
Yahoo! Finance
Yahoo! News

looks like the inevitable just happened... with all the above items turned off/frozen, I still got the OTA download last night! I'm rooted with the hotspot mod and despite all of that, the OTA still came through. the update is located in /cache.

dimm0k said:
looks like the inevitable just happened... with all the above items turned off/frozen, I still got the OTA download last night! I'm rooted with the hotspot mod and despite all of that, the OTA still came through. the update is located in /cache.
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Indeed! I gave up on OTA block. The only way I can think of if you stop all framework notifications, but I dont want to do that. Got to NAF and CF rooted. Waiting for stable KK before trying it on 720T. I don't care for sparks.

As of last night I hadn't received the OTA update yet, so I decided to try to fend it off buy freezing the system update in titanium backup... I swear I'm at 10 minutes went by and I can I receive the OTA notification! So now it looks like I'm in the same boat right next to you...lol
As I said earlier back in my S2 days I remember having to freeze the "System Update" with Titanium, but I think I also remember having to boot into recovery and Wipe a cache or something, because something is placed in the cache that looks to see if the update was downloaded and installed, and if not just keeps downloading until it is. So the steps that I do remember are;
1) Freeze system update with titanium.
2) Delete downloaded system files (I'm not sure where they are located, so please help me out with this one)
3) Boot into recovery and wipe a cache or two (I can't recall if it was one or more then one, and/or which one) so maybe someone could help with that?
I am going to do some searching for the S2 instructions to see if I can find them, maybe they will help with this.... Not sure if the update process is still the same though.

0Gravity said:
As of last night I hadn't received the OTA update yet, so I decided to try to fend it off buy freezing the system update in titanium backup... I swear I'm at 10 minutes went by and I can I receive the OTA notification! So now it looks like I'm in the same boat right next to you...lol
As I said earlier back in my S2 days I remember having to freeze the "System Update" with Titanium, but I think I also remember having to boot into recovery and Wipe a cache or something, because something is placed in the cache that looks to see if the update was downloaded and installed, and if not just keeps downloading until it is. So the steps that I do remember are;
1) Freeze system update with titanium.
2) Delete downloaded system files (I'm not sure where they are located, so please help me out with this one)
3) Boot into recovery and wipe a cache or two (I can't recall if it was one or more then one, and/or which one) so maybe someone could help with that?
I am going to do some searching for the S2 instructions to see if I can find them, maybe they will help with this.... Not sure if the update process is still the same though.
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as I stated in my last post, the downloaded update file is located in /cache. for the time being I've deleted that file and created a zero-byte file with the same name and its permissions set to read only. not sure what's going to happen if I try to update with an empty file or if I reboot, but I have it this way to hopefukky assure me that if I accidentally press update that it won't update successfully. I doubt cleaning up the OTA downloads will prevent it from downloading again unless you can somehow fake your version number.

dimm0k said:
as I stated in my last post, the downloaded update file is located in /cache. for the time being I've deleted that file and created a zero-byte file with the same name and its permissions set to read only. not sure what's going to happen if I try to update with an empty file or if I reboot, but I have it this way to hopefukky assure me that if I accidentally press update that it won't update successfully. I doubt cleaning up the OTA downloads will prevent it from downloading again unless you can somehow fake your version number.
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Doesn't sound like a bad idea! But I can't believe there isn't a fix for this out there though. In my research I found a file for the S2 called fota-killer, you would think something like that wild be available for the S4.

0Gravity said:
As of last night I hadn't received the OTA update yet, so I decided to try to fend it off buy freezing the system update in titanium backup... I swear I'm at 10 minutes went by and I can I receive the OTA notification! So now it looks like I'm in the same boat right next to you...lol
As I said earlier back in my S2 days I remember having to freeze the "System Update" with Titanium, but I think I also remember having to boot into recovery and Wipe a cache or something, because something is placed in the cache that looks to see if the update was downloaded and installed, and if not just keeps downloading until it is. So the steps that I do remember are;
1) Freeze system update with titanium.
2) Delete downloaded system files (I'm not sure where they are located, so please help me out with this one)
3) Boot into recovery and wipe a cache or two (I can't recall if it was one or more then one, and/or which one) so maybe someone could help with that?
I am going to do some searching for the S2 instructions to see if I can find them, maybe they will help with this.... Not sure if the update process is still the same though.
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OK I tried the fotakill.apk method and so far I have not received the notification like I was eveytime I rebooted earlier go to here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30205683&postcount=1 for the instructions I used and a link to the file.... I used the manual method rather then installing the zip thru recovery because they said the zip method is device specific..... I'll stop back in a couple days to update how it's working or b4 that if it doesn't!

0Gravity said:
OK I tried the fotakill.apk method and so far I have not received the notification like I was eveytime I rebooted earlier go to here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30205683&postcount=1 for the instructions I used and a link to the file.... I used the manual method rather then installing the zip thru recovery because they said the zip method is device specific..... I'll stop back in a couple days to update how it's working or b4 that if it doesn't!
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24 hours and still no update message!

OK it's been 4 or do days and this fix worked for me, we have not heard anything from the thread starter so I assume he has also fixed his, thanks for the help guys!

[Q] Once again, Service Temporarily Unavailable

"Service Unavailable - Software update is temporarily unavailable. Try again later."
I swear every phone I've had, at one point or another, gets this message when I try to update. Nothing fixes it, I've tried it all. Only way I've gotten 93% of updates since my Eris is manually installing. In fact I think my first XDA post was how to resolve this, and I just had to do it myself.
So I found the stock KK ROM and, once again, will use Odin to install it and re-root, but why does this always happen? A few times, whatever. Almost all the time, thank God for XDA. Every time....ok what's going on? I backup and FDR before every update to be sure it's as clean as possible.
I've always rooted, but otherwise don't do anything. Is this just me? Does this happen a lot to other people? Is it purely coincidence? I can't find hardly any threads about it for the Note 3...
Basically....WTH?!?!

Last I checked, OTA isn't supposed to work when you're rooted...

ShadowLea said:
Last I checked, OTA isn't supposed to work when you're rooted...
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The thing with that is I have gotten OTA's when rooted, even ones that removed root. That may have been a phone or two ago though. But the majority of the time I get this. I just don't get it, does everyone else with root only install updates manually? Maybe I should try one of those apps that temporarily unroots so you can install an update...

k1ng r4t said:
"Service Unavailable - Software update is temporarily unavailable. Try again later."
I swear every phone I've had, at one point or another, gets this message when I try to update. Nothing fixes it, I've tried it all. Only way I've gotten 93% of updates since my Eris is manually installing. In fact I think my first XDA post was how to resolve this, and I just had to do it myself.
So I found the stock KK ROM and, once again, will use Odin to install it and re-root, but why does this always happen? A few times, whatever. Almost all the time, thank God for XDA. Every time....ok what's going on? I backup and FDR before every update to be sure it's as clean as possible.
I've always rooted, but otherwise don't do anything. Is this just me? Does this happen a lot to other people? Is it purely coincidence? I can't find hardly any threads about it for the Note 3...
Basically....WTH?!?!
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OTA is not working when phone is rooted, unroot your phone and try to update.
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k1ng r4t said:
The thing with that is I have gotten OTA's when rooted, even ones that removed root. That may have been a phone or two ago though. But the majority of the time I get this. I just don't get it, does everyone else with root only install updates manually? Maybe I should try one of those apps that temporarily unroots so you can install an update...
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These days, Root = No OTA.
The old method was : Enable survival mode in SuperSU (Pro needed) --> Disable Superuser --> Reboot --> Install OTA --> Reboot --> Re-enable Superuser --> Disable survivor mode.
Not sure if it still works though.

5.0 update is being forced on me, help

The 5.0 update is being forced onto me like crazy. Right now I am quite upset at whomever is developing Android, I guess google, not very knowledgable about it. Anyway, it's worse than Microsoft in forcing the update down my throat.
It started with the notification, which I could not get rid of no matter what I tried, but I lived with it. Then, android *insert censor word here* me by downloading the entire update in the background while on mobile data. I'm pretty much now at my limit, and I still have 25 days to go in the billing cycle. And now apparently since it's downloaded, it keeps "refreshing" my notification that the update is downloaded and ready to install, which I am afraid that if I ever need to restart my phone (freeze, etc), it will automatically install it, risking my data.
How can I stop the update?
First, can anyone please tell me how can I find the OS update folder to delete the update that was downloaded? I believe in doing so it will not automatically update if I need to restart my phone.
2nd, is there a way to stop the notification? Basically I want to update my OS when I am ready to 5.0.
Currently running Vanilla OS, 4.4.4
Thank you.

Google officially maintains android.... It's the one who has built lollipop... No. It will keep forcing you.. If you have root.. Check in the root folder for the downloaded OS and erase it.. That should help I think
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Do I have to root my phone in order to have access to the folder where the download was downloaded?

Messerschmitt262 said:
Do I have to root my phone in order to have access to the folder where the download was downloaded?
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I just ignore the update messages at every new update. I don't dare do any updates at version .0 until at least the next release and when all apps have been updated as well; who needs the headache. Now if indeed the OS would eventually update itself without my knowledge, that would be very, very troubling as I might not have the most recent nandroid and titanium backups, but that has never happened to me in the past.

Without root, you can press the update notification, tap app info, and the untick show notifications. The problem with this is that you will stop all notifications from google play services. If you get root, than you should install xposed and then install the notify clean module, which will hide the update notification and only the update notification, nothing else.

My problem is now that the update has already been downloaded, and I am afraid that if I will ever need to restart the phone, it will automatically start updating at the next boot.
That is what I did until now, I ignored the update messages, but it somehow got pushed into my phone.

Messerschmitt262 said:
My problem is now that the update has already been downloaded, and I am afraid that if I will ever need to restart the phone, it will automatically start updating at the next boot.
That is what I did until now, I ignored the update messages, but it somehow got pushed into my phone.
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Back up your phone and clean it off. I had 5.0 on my phone for exactly 24 hours before I wiped it and started over. Did not like it at all.

I went from 4.2.2 to 5, no looking back. My Nexus has had a new lease of life. The battery was barely lasting a day and it's now 30% better! No bugs or issues, it's running as smooth as a baby's bottom. Only one of my (free) apps isn't compatible, I can cope with that.
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I just want to delete the already downloaded update. Could anyone point me in the right direction how I can do that?

Messerschmitt262 said:
I just want to delete the already downloaded update. Could anyone point me in the right direction how I can do that?
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/cache/

Since that folder is empty, I assume I will have to root my phone?