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Does any body want a vanilla rom

but i need it bassed on something or not if u dont want it

It depends on weather its a proper Rom or if its just filepushing like your 'Cronos LightSpeed Supper Rom'
and weather you've learnt to spell...
On a more serious note, anyone can use WinZIP, we don't need someone to spam the forums doing it for us.
Please don't see this as anything against you, its just advice.

42turkeys said:
It depends on weather its a proper Rom or if its just filepushing like your 'Cronos LightSpeed Supper Rom'
and weather you've learnt to spell...
On a more serious note, anyone can use WinZIP, we don't need someone to spam the forums doing it for us.
Please don't see this as anything against you, its just advice.
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Weather? That's whether I think

"and weather you've learnt to spell..."
I laughed.
And don't ask us if you want a ROM. Just develop, ask for help, improve it before it's launched (do this sequence 3 or 4 times), then release, and be flooded with bugs.
That's how it works.
Also, if someone wants to be my tutor, I'd be very glad.
I'm thinking of starting ROM developing aswell. I don't know what to read first.
And please, don't post cyanogen sticky post link here. I've read it, but it has too much information and I don't know where to start.

shokkapic said:
"and weather you've learnt to spell..."
I laughed.
And don't ask us if you want a ROM. Just develop, ask for help, improve it before it's launched (do this sequence 3 or 4 times), then release, and be flooded with bugs.
That's how it works.
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That seems too stupid. Maybe it was a joke?

C0mpu13rFr34k said:
That seems too stupid. Maybe it was a joke?
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People are so bad at detecting sarcasm...

No thanks. Already have Ve 4.0. Perfect vanilla IMHO. Vb
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I still want a tutor:
shokkapic said:
Also, if someone wants to be my tutor, I'd be very glad.
I'm thinking of starting ROM developing aswell. I don't know what to read first.
And please, don't post cyanogen sticky post link here. I've read it, but it has too much information and I don't know where to start.
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ive just tried those sticky guides and the links dont work

djdavis said:
ive just tried those sticky guides and the links dont work
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How? They open fine to me.

shokkapic said:
I still want a tutor:
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Try asking Feeyo and elemag for help. They are very open to give information.
Feeyo in particularly is learning me a lot about how I can create an rom for myself from AOSP. Those 2 are not greedy nor being secretly about how they do things.
Cant say that from that other Team.

I'm sorry but I've one question in my mind and I cant answer for it by my self: why someone buy a "sense/rosie" phone if he want a plain (vanilla) rom? Why that person doesn't buy a N1??

tbrain said:
I'm sorry but I've one question in my mind and I cant answer for it by my self: why someone buy a "sense/rosie" phone if he want a plain (vanilla) rom? Why that person doesn't buy a N1??
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Price perhaps?

tbrain said:
I'm sorry but I've one question in my mind and I cant answer for it by my self: why someone buy a "sense/rosie" phone if he want a plain (vanilla) rom? Why that person doesn't buy a N1??
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Well, price, I guess. And availability. The N1 wasn't available in my country, unless for an extremely unreasonable price.
Also, I think the N1 is not as sexy as the hero, or the desire...

Wow - there's some 'bad-mood' users around here, ey? We all start somewhere, so give the guy a little slack.
Anyway, if you want my honest opinion, you will struggle in the Vanilla ROM world on these forums. VanillaEclair, aHero, EzHero, CyanogenMod....there are more then enough really good Vanilla ROM's. On the other hand, Cronos, Villain, ChocolateEclair, Kimera....there are also more then enough great Sense ROM's too. It's a tough area to enter into as there is a lot of competition, and I'm sure many users can agree that we have seen some really detrimental side effects of the competition.
So, back to my honest opinion - I don't think anybody wants another vanilla ROM, nor another Sense ROM, unless you have something great to bring to the party, in which case I suggest rather make a public thread with your 'great thing' so that it can be implemented into existing ROM's. At the same time, this is a developement forum, and new developements are obviously always welcome. So, if you have the patience (for bug reports and updates) and decency (to work with the other developers), by all means, bring out a new ROM. I for one will be happy to test and report.
Just my 2c.
Mr P.

what I would suggest is you make the rom that YOU want to use. not pure vanilla, not pure stock sense, but the features you want most, including the (freely distributable) apps you want to include in the rom.
then you can always post it here in case others like it too.
I'd like to see a rom that doesn't include the standard apps but instead includes preinstalled the best free alternative calendar, widgets, launcher(pro...), alternative gallery, alternative camera, music player, app organizer, and so on.
something that is out of the box really really cool and setup for instant use (the way sense phones are setup from the factory, but using non-sense apps maybe).
that would be worth seeing here. it's been done but recently most popular roms are variations of the same thing and the competition is more about stability, performance, and working hardware. if you can base yours upon an already stable, fast and fully working hero rom (with permission from the authors), then customizing it and repackaging it could be really cool.

[REQUEST] Froyo ROM with Sense?

I know it's possible now since there are Desire and Incredible ROMs running Sense on Froyo, so I'd be very happy if a developer could figure out how to port one of those to the Eris. Obviously they're different screen resolutions (and the Desire is GSM instead of CDMA), but it must be possible. Thank you in advance!

Reportedddd

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Hah, for what? It's your 2nd post and your already trolling? The man is asking something pretty simple, if someone would be willing to do a port on an EXISTING rom or if anyone is currently working on one...no need to report.

Been around long enough to know no one likes it when people post these types of things. You think some dev hasn't already thought of this? You think his question is going to motivate them? It just clogs up the page.

titansfan10 said:
Been around long enough to know no one likes it when people post these types of things. You think some dev hasn't already thought of this? You think his question is going to motivate them? It just clogs up the page.
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If a dev has thought about it or has been messing with it, nobody knows about it yet(for the eris at least). Maybe someone who has worked on that type of thing (porting) or others might be interested.
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Anyway, here's the link to 2.2 sense for the Incredible if anyone was interested in checking it out for a possible port.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=737400

titansfan10 said:
Been around long enough to know no one likes it when people post these types of things. You think some dev hasn't already thought of this? You think his question is going to motivate them? It just clogs up the page.
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lol...somehow I doubt a joining date of "July 2010" with 3 posts constitutes being "around long enough."

I don't know about everyone else, but I have no problem when someone posts a very benign request. There's nothing wrong with what thenestor did. He made a legit post throwing an idea out there with the hope that the devs would comment on the possibility of doing it.
What I do have a problem with is a new punk user coming in and throwing weight around that he doesn't have. The only problem with this thread is that you posted on it.

wait? been around long enough to see it? the guy is a senior member? and hes asking a simple question. nobodys gonna learn unless you ask? maybe you know all and want to troll on everyone but damn give the man a chance

vash8806 said:
lol...somehow I doubt a joining date of "July 2010" with 3 posts constitutes being "around long enough."
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hatchna said:
I don't know about everyone else, but I have no problem when someone posts a very benign request. There's nothing wrong with what thenestor did. He made a legit post throwing an idea out there with the hope that the devs would comment on the possibility of doing it.
What I do have a problem with is a new punk user coming in and throwing weight around that he doesn't have. The only problem with this thread is that you posted on it.
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Thanks guys. So back on topic, what other 2.2 sense roms are out now (desire/incredible)?

Zer0_Cool said:
Thanks guys. So back on topic, what other 2.2 sense roms are out now (desire/incredible)?
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umm... that's a LEAKED rom... I believe theres a difference between LEAKED & ROOTED roms..
Once you go onto a leaked rom, you lose root privileges..which is NOT what you want...
Then again, he might just mean that its leaked to everyone else, thereby not really a leak..

vash8806 said:
umm... that's a LEAKED rom... I believe theres a difference between LEAKED & ROOTED roms..
Once you go onto a leaked rom, you lose root privileges..which is NOT what you want...
Then again, he might just mean that its leaked to everyone else, thereby not really a leak..
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please explain? im running a cyanogen Tazz froyo rom and i still have root privileges? is it gonna change if you port it from another devices?

From what I gathered, it's a leaked OTA ROM that has been modified with the superuser apk and such. So it should still allow for root access.

Zer0_Cool said:
The man is asking something pretty simple, if someone would be willing to do a port on an EXISTING rom or if anyone is currently working on one...
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But when "iloveandroid" asked about someone making a ROM, he/she got jumped all over for it. How's this different ? No offense thenestor... Yeah, "iloveandroid" was annoying, but sorry, the rules don't apply to some and not others.

hallstevenson said:
But when "iloveandroid" asked about someone making a ROM, he/she got jumped all over for it. How's this different ? No offense thenestor... Yeah, "iloveandroid" was annoying, but sorry, the rules don't apply to some and not others.
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Depends slightly on what's being requested really. Requesting someone make a Sense 2.2 ROM is different from requesting that someone make a Sense 2.2 ROM with X Y and Z added and A B and C removed.
He's not requesting a customized ROM, just asking if someone was doing a Sense 2.2 ROM.

Marisa said:
Depends slightly on what's being requested really. Requesting someone make a Sense 2.2 ROM is different from requesting that someone make a Sense 2.2 ROM with X Y and Z added and A B and C removed.
He's not requesting a customized ROM, just asking if someone was doing a Sense 2.2 ROM.
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hes asking developers to build a specific rom, regaurdless this is not the place to ask for a rom to be made if you have a request, speak with a devloper in his own thread on a private note, and ask there.
DO NOT CREATE A THREAD TO ASK IF/FOR A ROM TO BE BUILT IN THE DEVELOPER SECTION.
THREAD REPORTED

Reported? Whats this about? Are we back in elementary school? Are you guys hall monitors? What kind of punkas* b*&ch reports anyone these days?
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BigBeefy said:
Reported? Whats this about? Are we back in elementary school? Are you guys hall monitors? What kind of punkas* b*&ch reports anyone these days?
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I agree. That's why you can add people like Sjflowerhorn and DroidKevlar to your ignore list. That way you don't have to read their stuff.

lotus22 said:
I agree. That's why you can add people like Sjflowerhorn and DroidKevlar to your ignore list. That way you don't have to read their stuff.
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You idiot. Those two are solid gold around here...

This is worse then my high school, honestly guys. If you have a problem with a question you can either:
A) Skip over it and let it float to the bottom
B) Say do it yourself
C) Try and say something worthwhile
To be the only one answering to answer the OP question in 18 posts is very sad.
OP, It is said that Framework is working on it, but as of right now I think he is the only one. Andrizoid was, but we all know what happened to him.
Grow up guys. In all seriousness, annoyances don't have to ruin our day.

BeinDroid said:
You idiot. Those two are solid gold around here...
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thank you sir but we really should watch the name calling
and another note if you read any post ive made they are all geared towards A:learning B:helping others learn C:to have a good time
youl see i never created a thread . . . . EVER because i - A either use google myself B ask a developer in his thread or C-DEAL WITH IT UNTIL ITS FIXED OR RELEASED.
i enjoy learning and helping others learn but there becomes a point when people are asking to be spoon fed and i disagree with that strongly. If you feel that you need a place to be spoon fed. . . . Phandroid.com or androidforums.com seem to be very open minded towards that and helping code thief's prosper. i have no issues with either of said forums however "me personally" i chose XDA because its a reputable place to LEARN,
I appoligize to the XDA members who have to read this knowing D*** well this isn't necessary. Please read and obey the posting rules. Im not even a mod or any kind of status around here. If i were things would be a lot tighter around here.TRUST AND BELIEVE THAT.

Fast and stable rom?

HI,i search for a stable and possibly fast rom. It's no important for me the android version, i prefer a fast old version the a slower but newer.
Someone can tell me some good rom? i don't search the best,i know that there isn't the best rom, i need only a CM7/9/10 fast and stable,beacause Now with the CM9 by tytuning i have a lot of problem

Ansem said:
HI,i search for a stable and possibly fast rom. It's no important for me the android version, i prefer a fast old version the a slower but newer.
Someone can tell me some good rom? i don't search the best,i know that there isn't the best rom, i need only a CM7/9/10 fast and stable,beacause Now with the CM9 by tytuning i have a lot of problem
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stop posting this damn whats the best rom crap
everything you just posted has been asked and answered many many times
learn to search or sign out of XDA and dont return

Ansem said:
HI,i search for a stable and possibly fast rom. It's no important for me the android version, i prefer a fast old version the a slower but newer.
Someone can tell me some good rom? i don't search the best,i know that there isn't the best rom, i need only a CM7/9/10 fast and stable,beacause Now with the CM9 by tytuning i have a lot of problem
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Well it depends what exactly you want. For example you can try this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316632
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256423
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434860
I tried these roms and I am happy with them. Works fast, didn't have any problems with anything. I just give you example of a roms which you can try.

dohcvtec said:
Well it depends what exactly you want. For example you can try this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316632
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256423
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434860
I tried these roms and I am happy with them. Works fast, didn't have any problems with anything. I just give you example of a roms which you can try.
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with the third i have a lot of problem: system crash every time that i install an app,and sometime i lost the data of the app.
I preferi the cm's rom beacause for my experience all sense roms are a lot slower than cm

Ansem said:
with the third i have a lot of problem: system crash every time that i install an app,and sometime i lost the data of the app.
I preferi the cm's rom beacause for my experience all sense roms are a lot slower than cm
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EXACTLY!!
You see! He tried recommending you the best and most stable 3 roms of all from his opinion, yet you liked NONE of them. Your "preferences" are different from everyone else's. He likes sense, you don't. He didn't have crashes on tytung's ics, you did. He thinks Sense is fancy and wonderful, you think it's slow and buggy.
It was your fault for making this thread in the first place. That's why the "best rom", "most stable", "fastest rom" ... etc threads are despised and hated.
I suggest you read Kameirus's post and you will understand what I mean. (if you haven't already).

Marvlesz said:
EXACTLY!!
You see! He tried recommending you the best and most stable 3 roms of all from his opinion, yet you liked NONE of them. Your "preferences" are different from everyone else's. He likes sense, you don't. He didn't have crashes on tytung's ics, you did. He thinks Sense is fancy and wonderful, you think it's slow and buggy.
It was your fault for making this thread in the first place. That's why the "best rom", "most stable", "fastest rom" ... etc threads are despised and hated.
I suggest you read Kameirus's post and you will understand what I mean. (if you haven't already).
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the problem is that i don't have many time,so i can't try every rom in this forum. So i must ask and try only the rom that has been considered the best :/
i know all you said,but not all have the time and knowledge to understand what's the best rom only reading the first post of every rom

Ansem said:
the problem is that i don't have many time,so i can't try every rom in this forum. So i must ask and try only the rom that has been considered the best :/
i know all you said,but not all have the time and knowledge to understand what's the best rom only reading the first post of every rom
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Then stick to windows mobile.

Ansem said:
the problem is that i don't have many time,so i can't try every rom in this forum. So i must ask and try only the rom that has been considered the best :/
i know all you said,but not all have the time and knowledge to understand what's the best rom only reading the first post of every rom
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Hey, what's the best colour?
What's the best food?
What's the best phone?
What's the best song?
What's the best movie?
What's the best car?
OH WAIT, YOU CAN'T ANSWER BECAUSE IT'S AN OPINION BASED QUESTION!
Seriously, I'm getting really tired of these best ROM threads. There is no correct answer, and yet you people still create them. All that happens is that they're closed by a mod or they turn into 10 post spam threads where new users open old threads to post questions in the dev forums. If you just wanted the ROM most people use then why not look at the thread view count and post count?
To quote PG101 (I think) 'coming to XDA and asking for the best ROM is like going into a bar full of drunks and asking what's the best drink'.
I wouldn't have posted this if you had admitted in post #6 that you're wrong through Marvlesz and Kameirus's pure logic, but you've somehow tried to justify posting an idiotic question which is quite annoying.

Ansem said:
HI,i search for a stable and possibly fast rom. It's no important for me the android version, i prefer a fast old version the a slower but newer.
Someone can tell me some good rom? i don't search the best,i know that there isn't the best rom, i need only a CM7/9/10 fast and stable,beacause Now with the CM9 by tytuning i have a lot of problem
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you can use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256423

Ever-Never said:
you can use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256423
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Spamming for 10 posts? Please do it somewhere else.

Nigeldg said:
Hey, what's the best colour?
What's the best food?
What's the best phone?
What's the best song?
What's the best movie?
What's the best car?
OH WAIT, YOU CAN'T ANSWER BECAUSE IT'S AN OPINION BASED QUESTION!
Seriously, I'm getting really tired of these best ROM threads. There is no correct answer, and yet you people still create them. All that happens is that they're closed by a mod or they turn into 10 post spam threads where new users open old threads to post questions in the dev forums. If you just wanted the ROM most people use then why not look at the thread view count and post count?
To quote PG101 (I think) 'coming to XDA and asking for the best ROM is like going into a bar full of drunks and asking what's the best drink'.
I wouldn't have posted this if you had admitted in post #6 that you're wrong through Marvlesz and Kameirus's pure logic, but you've somehow tried to justify posting an idiotic question which is quite annoying.
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Isnt this an Android Q&A forum. Why is everyone so neurotic about these "best rom" threads? There is a avalanche of information on xda...This i agree...however its very easy to get completely blindsighted by the sheer volume of threads and the "best rom, most stable" etc, are usually shot down very soon after the question is asked.
If one cant offer any guidence or if one gets frustrated by these threads then why click on the thread and why take time to respond negitively instead of just skimming past and ignoring the thread?
I get that it becomes tiresome for seasoned members here to see these threads but please can we not just assume that the posters are just being "Lazy". Its also worth note that is increasingly difficult for new users to post here for fear of upsetting others with their (mostly well intentioned) ill thought out questions..
XDA is such a great source of knowledge and resource and i agree one needs to take the time to read, read and read some more sometimes though we can get lost and sometime are just asking to be pointed in a direction that has benefited others. Ie' a rom thread where the reading will begin b4 flashing
Flashing for the 1st time can be tricky as their is a lot to take in and one can be nervous of the procedure, and if too many of us take it apon ouselves to be the forum police then the the prospect becomes slightly less appealing.
Sorry i dont mean to offend anyone by sounding off but i too am new to much of the flashing roms, and also am guilty of comming to these threads in the hope of finding a majority of agreement on a particular rom. I do understand that it is subjective and one does not fit all. However it can give confidence to new flashees if experienced users can offer recomendations which have been offered here above, which i personally an very greatfull for.
Sometimes we are but sheep and will follow where led.
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Con500 said:
Isnt this an Android Q&A forum. Why is everyone so neurotic about these "best rom" threads? There is a avalanche of information on xda...This i agree...however its very easy to get completely blindsighted by the sheer volume of threads and the "best rom, most stable" etc, are usually shot down very soon after the question is asked.
If one cant offer any guidence or if one gets frustrated by these threads then why click on the thread and why take time to respond negitively instead of just skimming past and ignoring the thread?
I get that it becomes tiresome for seasoned members here to see these threads but please can we not just assume that the posters are just being "Lazy". Its also worth note that is increasingly difficult for new users to post here for fear of upsetting others with their (mostly well intentioned) ill thought out questions..
XDA is such a great source of knowledge and resource and i agree one needs to take the time to read, read and read some more sometimes though we can get lost and sometime are just asking to be pointed in a direction that has benefited others. Ie' a rom thread where the reading will begin b4 flashing
Flashing for the 1st time can be tricky as their is a lot to take in and one can be nervous of the procedure, and if too many of us take it apon ouselves to be the forum police then the the prospect becomes slightly less appealing.
Sorry i dont mean to offend anyone by sounding off but i too am new to much of the flashing roms, and also am guilty of comming to these threads in the hope of finding a majority of agreement on a particular rom. I do understand that it is subjective and one does not fit all. However it can give confidence to new flashees if experienced users can offer recomendations which have been offered here above, which i personally an very greatfull for.
Sometimes we are but sheep and will follow where led.
Sent from my cm_tenderloin using xda app-developers app
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see this is where you missed the whole point
theres like 50 whats the best rom thread ...and if someone is to lazy to search or read then they dont belong on XDA

Kameirus said:
see this is where you missed the whole point
theres like 50 whats the best rom thread ...and if someone is to lazy to search or read then they dont belong on XDA
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I do get it. But it doesnt mean it doesnt frustrate me to see the responses in these threads just as it frustrates those who are rattled by the thread even existing who feel the need to jump on and respond.
If it bugs you... you can leave it alone and move on OR you can let the OP know your frustration by refusing to answer the question and telling them to get off XDA. But surely its easier to ignore it?
It honest feels that the forum has become quite arrogant at times especially where "newbs" are concerned. And it can feel at times slightly Elitist (those that Can vs those who need help) with a disregard to anyone who doesnt know where to begin.
One post i read earlier told a FM to "get off the android forum and dont come back" for asking a similar question... How is this helping and how is it got to the point where there are many 'thanks' thumbsup to this sort of response.
I doubt that OP would be back in a hurry but i guess if it stops them asking 'stupid' questions....Theres a pattern forming where some members here who have flashed successfully a few times then become part of this club that pretends to be irritated by 'best rom' threads and i assume it makes them feel superior by responding with negative feedback to ones who genuine are looking for just a point in the right direction. Why not just 'Not Respond' at all??
Its like pack mentality sometimes and thankfully it is a minority of members who are rattled and on the whole XDA is immensely helpful to newcomers who will learn the hard way to never ask "that" question :banghead:
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We are members of this community, thus we have to do our best to make it better. We do this by telling people who post such threads about how wrong it is and the correct way of finding "the" rom. But it got out of hand, you can check that for yourself. Every other week, there is a thread asking the exact same thing, i.e "best rom, fastest, stable". Whereas it should be common sense that there is no best in subjective things as Nigel summed it.
Now the problem is that many people think xda is a support site. Here is a quote from a senior member that I couldn't agree more with:
TheATHEiST said:
He is simply one of these XDA n00bs who comes here with the false impression that XDA is tech support for their manufacturers device.
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While it is true that you can find help on xda, that doesn't mean it is given on a silver platter. If you can't bother to help yourself, we can't bother to help you. Furthermore, finding a question that a 2-click search could've provided a more-than-satisfactory answer or finding a post that is almost the same as a two-rows-below post is rather very irritating.
... become part of this club that pretends to be irritated by 'best rom' threads and i assume it makes them feel superior by responding with negative feedback to ones who genuine are looking for just a point in the right direction. ...
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That's impossible, if you're asking "what's the best rom", there is no way you're looking for a point in the right direction. Because basically there is no right direction. Some people even try to justify their stupid posts with even more stupid posts.
The HD2 has been out for about 4 years now. NO matter what your problem is, it has a 99% probability it has been asked AND answered before MULTIPLE times. Now if people can't bother to follow the very first rule of the forum rules, they don't deserve to be helped.
When they first registered on xda, they agreed to abide by the terms, rules and conditions. Now if you agree to abide by something and then break that thing, you take full responsibility and deserve everything you get for that breaking.

Con500 said:
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A common misconception, this is a development forum (hence XDA developers ). Other than this I don't really have anything to add to Marvlesz's post tbh. You have to understand that when I posted that there had been literally three similar threads in a row. When you're posting a thread search results for the same or similar title even come up, so there wasn't any excuse for this thread to have been created. There's a subtle line between not knowing and not trying, and this is the latter.

It's problem to me too... I have 1.5 gb roms on my SD and no one fully work for me =(

Ok so i am aware that my earlier post was ott on my part and can only apologize. Must have been posting through some red mist I admit i jumped in without thinking and was unduely judgemental. Sorry bout that Everyone here esp devs are doing such amazing work for our gadgets to perform at their peaks and i am immensely appreciative of that. I agree with the above that this is first a "Development" forum and can be misconceived by some (myself included ) as somewhere where the answers are uniform and one in the same. However i see this is not the case and opinions to questions such as "whats the best, fastest most stable" etc, are so diverse and if everyone were to give an opinion then i guess these threads would also just get messy and lengthy with NO satifactory conclusion.
Sorry Guys...Really Didnt mean to offend. However i can see how my wording may have done so :banghead:
My tail is well and truly behind my legs as i type this
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Ansem said:
with the third i have a lot of problem: system crash every time that i install an app,and sometime i lost the data of the app.
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it hapen to everyone, even me, you just make a wrong installation! Learn, serach and test before post. No other way to know which the best are.
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Kameirus said:
stop posting this damn whats the best rom crap
everything you just posted has been asked and answered many many times
learn to search or sign out of XDA and dont return
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I don't know why but I feel Guilty!

TouchWizMOD v1.0

[Q] Which is the most stable/bug free? JB vs JB

Hello everyone,
As you know there are different versions of JB ROM, from 4.1.1 to 4.2.2, but which is the most stable/bug free?
I'm making that question because I'm on 4.0.4 and my system is going to make heavy for many reasons, so I want to upgrade to JB if possible.
I never tried carefully any JB ROM therefore I can't take a judgment, but from comments and changelogs 4.1.2 seems the most stable JB ROM right now.
I always flashed and tested different ROMs everyday, but now I'm tired to flash all the time and I want a daily use one.
What are the common bugs that I've to expect from a JB ROM? And, what's your opinion about the topic?
NOTE: To keep clear and useful this thread don't give just general considerations
but indicate the differences from other ROMs that you tested so we can have an idea of your conception of benefits* and specify:
ROM Thread
Boot Loader
Type of installation (NAND, NativeSD, DataOnEXT)
* If you say your car is powerful, it doesn't mean anything, but if you say your car is more powerful than Fiat 500, then we can understand your meaning of Power

You shouldn't ask people to compare roms, it is a do-it-yourself kind of thing. Everyone has different experiences with the same rom. It is always about tastes.
And I think is against the rules here. Not sure, wont search. Lol.
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FCORivers said:
You shouldn't ask people to compare roms, it is a do-it-yourself kind of thing. Everyone has different experiences with the same rom. It is always about tastes.
And I think is against the rules here. Not sure, wont search. Lol.
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I'm just asking which version of JB is the most stable. I want to understand if there are any differences or if all the JB are almost the same

zenida said:
I'm just asking which version of JB is the most stable. I want to understand if there are any differences or if all the JB are almost the same
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37547355
That is what happens when you ask what is the 'best, most stable, fastest' rom.
If you want to know the difference, there is an app for that! I mean .. there is .. the ... CHANGELOG. There, you can see what the ROM is based on, what's been added and what's been removed. Compare changelogs to know the difference.

why are people that post threads like this not banned from xda for about a year

Marvlesz said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37547355
That is what happens when you ask what is the 'best, most stable, fastest' rom.
If you want to know the difference, there is an app for that! I mean .. there is .. the ... CHANGELOG. There, you can see what the ROM is based on, what's been added and what's been removed. Compare changelogs to know the difference.
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Yes, but I'm not talking about a pure user experience, but related to bug level of the ROMs and its daily usability. I read changelogs, but I want to know about people opinions, furthermore it's not strictly related to a specific ROM, but just to Android versions. Just to have an idea on how much are serious some bugs
Kameirus said:
why are people that post threads like this not banned from xda for about a year
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That's why you are not an admin or moderator man , because on a Q&A forum, people are free to ask about anything (that's the reason why Q&A exist) and ask about others experience or opinion could be useful for someone who wants to take a decision, just that. So don't flame on my thread and be respectful!

zenida said:
Yes, but I'm not talking about a pure user experience, but related to bug level of the ROMs and its daily usability. I read changelogs, but I want to know about people opinions, furthermore it's not strictly related to a specific ROM, but just to Android versions. Just to have an idea on how much are serious some bugs
That's why you are not an admin or moderator man , because on a Q&A forum, people are free to ask about anything (that's the reason why Q&A exist) and ask about others experience or opinion could be useful for someone who wants to take a decision, just that. So don't flame on my thread and be respectful!
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Actually, he's right. These kinds of threads are hated. In Q&A, you are free to ask about anything as long as you follow the rules. Now, have you even read the rules? I'd say no, you haven't.
The very first rule on xda says "Search before posting", if you had searched about the most stable version/ROM, you would have come across numerous threads where people are flamed (just like you) for posting this, you will also know that no matter what your reason is, you should not ask about the 'most stable, fastest, best'. Because what you might think is bugless, others might think it is not. What you may like and think is stable, others might think otherwise.
I agree, he shouldn't have flamed, but again, you shouldn't have posted this thread in the first place.

Marvlesz said:
Actually, he's right. These kinds of threads are hated. In Q&A, you are free to ask about anything as long as you follow the rules. Now, have you even read the rules? I'd say no, you haven't.
The very first rule on xda says "Search before posting", if you had searched about the most stable version/ROM, you would have come across numerous threads where people are flamed (just like you) for posting this, you will also know that no matter what your reason is, you should not ask about the 'most stable, fastest, best'. Because what you might think is bugless, others might think it is not. What you may like and think is stable, others might think otherwise.
I agree, he shouldn't have flamed, but again, you shouldn't have posted this thread in the first place.
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I read and respected the rule of XDA, in fact I know there are several threads about "stable, best, fastest..." but those were too general discussions, I'm just asking about JB because we can state JB is really young but is the most updated version of Android, so I think it's important to have a point of reference on which version of JB could be declared stable as we can do with Gingerbread 2.3.7.
IMHO 4.1.2 seems to be the most stable, and I wanted to have an opinion from others just that.
AND... I can accept your way to say things, because I can understand and follow your advice... BUT I can't accept the way Kameirus answered my post, he was very and unrespectful about me. And the respect must be granted regardless of the XDA's rules!
In addition, I specified in the OP's note, it's important to indicate a point of comparison, to understand the meaning of each judgment, in this way we can get a more objective comparisons. If you say a ROM is more stable than another one, specifying the reasons why you think that we can reduce the subjective factors.
Now, if someone would share his experience I'll read very willingly, otherwise this thread will bump down without any war or flame

Instead of typing all of this u could have told him ROMs u tried. I recommend the pacman rom
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stevediaz said:
Instead of typing all of this u could have told him ROMs u tried. I recommend the pacman rom
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Well as I just said I used JB not very carefully, because I'm on NativeSD that is really great, but it share the same fat32 partition so Android folders and app folders are the same for each ROM that you install on it. I think it could gives problems.
I tried a bit the Pacman ROM and it has really nice features, as I already said Android 4.1.2 seems to be more stable than 4.2.2. Or now we can say 4.2.2 is stable as 4.1.2?
Also, I had a good feeling with JellyTime (4.1.2) but it seems not supported a lot from the developer. I would install it for heavy use but I don't want change ROM if problems comes up.
Do you think Pacman could be stated as daily usable? What are its defects? I see it's WIP yet and there's no BUG log on the OPs

zenida said:
BUT I can't accept the way Kameirus answered my post, he was very and unrespectful about me. And the respect must be granted regardless of the XDA's rules!
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lmao my post had nothing to do about respect for anything it was an observation ..and no sorry respect is earned not granted in anything in life
and your right its a good thing im not and admin or moderator cause there would be alot less lazy people on XDA
wanna see how fast this thread can be closed

Kameirus said:
lmao my post had nothing to do about respect for anything it was an observation ..and no sorry respect is earned not granted in anything in life
and your right its a good thing im not and admin or moderator cause there would be alot less lazy people on XDA
wanna see how fast this thread can be closed
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Please stop to flame here and learn how to speak with people, because respect is always a due!
Though, if respect is earned your answer was disrespectful without knowing who I was.
I don't know what's your culture, but mine stipulates that people who are not known, must be respected!

There is no such thing as the best ROM.
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[Q] KitKat question.

I don't know if this is appropriate or even the right place for it, but if not, mods please remove. I'm using and loving PSX KK and am disheartened that it's chief dev basically took his toys and went home. I'm wondering if there's anyone out there who'd be willing to synch with PSX source and build for those of us not invited to his private party. (I'm assuming per GPL he's still sharing source.) Anyone willing to build a Pure Speed Kang?
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I could do it. Im busy today but tomorrow ill give it a go
Not sure if I would actually want to open a specific thread for this (as thats kind of odd imo since the team left and all), but if you think otherwise let me know.

Thanks, Chromium. I don't even know if they've added anything since leaving. A thread in the non-original development section might make it easier for people to keep up with any new builds, but I agree about the awkwardness of it. I can understand their frustration, and I've always been very pro-dev when it comes to people being pushy, but I just don't get punishing all the users who had nothing to do with it.
Love your font packs, BTW. Been using ExpletusSans for a long time, now.
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JaylanPHNX said:
Thanks, Chromium. I don't even know if they've added anything since leaving. A thread in the non-original development section might make it easier for people to keep up with any new builds, but I agree about the awkwardness of it. I can understand their frustration, and I've always been very pro-dev when it comes to people being pushy, but I just don't get punishing all the users who had nothing to do with it.
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Yea it would be quite awkward indeed. But i guess like you said, a thread in the non-original dev section would make sense and hopefully cause no harm.
Or maybe just a thread in general instead, since im really not "developing" anything at all.
JaylanPHNX said:
Love your font packs, BTW. Been using ExpletusSans for a long time, now.
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Glad you're enjoying them.

if u gonna build and give, please just give by pm to those who want and didnt post dumb things on psx thread. we cant give the rom for those who have contributed to make psx private.
I know its not OP situtation, im just telling to the guy building ok?

opssemnik said:
if u gonna build and give, please just give by pm to those who want and didnt post dumb things on psx thread. we cant give the rom for those who have contributed to make psx private.
I know its not OP situtation, im just telling to the guy building ok?
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Haha, ok. Maybe we'll just share the builds in this thread. No one will know.
The op could change the title to something random like "Help phone stuck in bootloop", but really we will have a secret PSX rom sharing thread? lol

Chromium_ said:
Haha, ok. Maybe we'll just share the builds in this thread. No one will know.
The op could change the title to something random like "Help phone stuck in bootloop", but really we will have a secret PSX rom sharing thread? lol
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lmao!our little secret

I've now changed the title to the ambiguous KitKat Question. :sly:
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