Can you flash any custom roms with mobile ODIN without tripping knox flag after using towelroot, followed by Chainfire's SUPERSU?
Or you can only flash roms which stated (knox 0x0)??
combatuser said:
Can you flash any custom roms with mobile ODIN without tripping knox flag after using towelroot, followed by Chainfire's SUPERSU?
Or you can only flash roms which stated (knox 0x0)??
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no!! you can only flash roms using recovery.
mobile odin is for flashing firmwares only.
take a look on this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2835305
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combatuser said:
Can you flash any custom roms with mobile ODIN without tripping knox flag after using towelroot, followed by Chainfire's SUPERSU?
Or you can only flash roms which stated (knox 0x0)??
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In practical terms, no. A custom ROM is going to mean accepting that your Knox flag increments to 0x1. That is because custom ROMs are invariably packaged as flashable zip files, intended to be installed from a custom recovery session. It's installing a custom recovery that would actually increment Knox.
You could in theory (i.e. I don't see why not, but I haven't tested it), install a custom ROM from the command line of a rooted phone. But you'd have to figure out what goes where.. basically disassemble their install script and make a todo list that you'd have to replicate from the command line.
Pragmatically no one is going to go to that amount of work. So the effective answer is no. If you want to install a custom ROM, then you have to commit to a custom recovery first, which will increment Knox. Most people don't obsess about the Knox bit. But if you are unwilling to change your Knox flag, then you are effectively barred from custom ROMs. Unless you found someone who packaged a custom ROM for just your situation and a view of avoiding a Knox increment anyway.
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NOOB QUESTION
what's the problem with tripping knox?
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la2o said:
NOOB QUESTION
what's the problem with tripping knox?
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it will void the warrenty of the device if it got tripped. so some people want to root without losing their device warranty
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Galaxy_Guy said:
it will void the warrenty of the device if it got tripped. so some people want to root without losing their device warranty
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Ahh i see, thank you very much
Thanks, GalaxyGuy, I've read your thread before opening this post. I thought NeatRom was a custom rom. So NeatRom is basically a custom firmware?
Thanks fffft for the reply. And I actually flashed Phoenix Rom v3 through Mobile ODIN and checking 'wipe data' and 'dalvic cache'. Everything seems to work fine even without a custom revovery. And my knox is (0x1), but I'm quite happy with the custom rom.
I heard that there's a way to make the knox flag reset for Note 3, although if it works on S5, it will be a bonus.
combatuser said:
Thanks, GalaxyGuy, I've read your thread before opening this post. I thought NeatRom was a custom rom. So NeatRom is basically a custom firmware?
Thanks fffft for the reply. And I actually flashed Phoenix Rom v3 through Mobile ODIN and checking 'wipe data' and 'dalvic cache'. Everything seems to work fine even without a custom revovery. And my knox is (0x1), but I'm quite happy with the custom rom.
I heard that there's a way to make the knox flag reset for Note 3, although if it works on S5, it will be a bonus.
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no its a rom but the dev of the neat rom have found a way to flash his rom using mobile odin , that's doesn't mean every rom is able to flash using mobile odin.
the best thing to do is to read the installation guide of the rom to know if you can flash it by odin or you must use a recovery
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This KNOX thing is creating too much confusion. Somebody please clear it. Some say that KNOX won't allow us to root ar flash custom kernels n roms. Some are say that KNOX bootloader can be replaced. I am using GT-I9500 (4.3 official, MJ8 build number, not rooted), which i wish to root. What should i exactly do to get rid of knox?
Please help. Thanks
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I too am confused with this whole Knox stuff. But from my experience, you can Root and install custom software but it will void your warranty. I'm not sure if it's any different on the 9500 as I've got a 9505 but there is currently NO way to get rid of Knox, once you've got it, you're stuck with it.
Pulse654321 said:
I too am confused with this whole Knox stuff. But from my experience, you can Root and install custom software but it will void your warranty. I'm not sure if it's any different on the 9500 as I've got a 9505 but there is currently NO way to get rid of Knox, once you've got it, you're stuck with it.
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Maby not ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504258 and this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2510867
you can root after upgrading to knox
you can also install a custom recovery
knox counter (which is not really a counter if my understanding is correct) will increase to 1, meaning you will loose the waranty
so I was running the last S4 official firmware, I root'ed it using CF auto root, then installed philz touch recoveryn than i flashed the goole edition rom from jamal
and of course I lost the waranty, hope I wont need it
philuxe said:
you can root after upgrading to knox
you can also install a custom recovery
knox counter (which is not really a counter if my understanding is correct) will increase to 1, meaning you will loose the waranty
so I was running the last S4 official firmware, I root'ed it using CF auto root, then installed philz touch recoveryn than i flashed the goole edition rom from jamal
and of course I lost the waranty, hope I wont need it
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So now that i want to root my GT-I9500 (Indian, running 4.3 stock, MJ8 firmware), will CF autoroot work?
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N7105
n7105
n7105
Simple.
Lots of info out there for n7100 but, how do you root and flash a custom rom and kurnal without triggering the KNOX eFuse on n7105?!?!
Also, does it even matter if I break KNOX? I get that it voids ur warranty (don't care, have none), but does it actually change anything in the software environment?
Thanks in advance
robertharvey_90 said:
N7105
n7105
n7105
Simple.
Lots of info out there for n7100 but, how do you root and flash a custom rom and kurnal without triggering the KNOX eFuse on n7105?!?!
Also, does it even matter if I break KNOX? I get that it voids ur warranty (don't care, have none), but does it actually change anything in the software environment?
Thanks in advance
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- find your favourite kernel and ROM
- download onto sd card
- follow instructions provided in thread.
what this really comes down to is, flash a new recovery from the default recovery, i recommend philz cwm, reboot into your new recovery, wipe caches for new ROM, install zips, reboot, done!
If you dont care that your warranty might be lost, feel free to follow any method mentioned in the N7105 section. You need to get a custom recovery first, I recommend Philz touch. Once you have custom recovery, sky is the limit for you!
Thanks but
Thanks, but just to be clear, is there a way to do it? Install custom recovery, root, rom, etc. Without tripping knox.
Tried using some methods that are said to work. But n7105 is not supported. Only n7100... There has to be a way
Thanks
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Just FYI, questions should go in the Q and A section mate.
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Hi all.
I have gt-i9505 and somehow I tripped knox efuse.
Now when i try to install any custom rom from cwm (flashed with odin) I get soft-brick I.e. bootloop where device is stuck on samsung logo.
If i try to flash modem (reception sux) and put device to sleep it disables 3G and wifi. Only restarting or manually reseting APN helps to restore 3G connection.
Flashing original roms with odin works fine.
Any help on installing custom rom or flashing modems will be highly appreciated.
Thank you in advance.
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Mifodiy said:
Hi all.
I have gt-i9505 and somehow I tripped knox efuse.
Now when i try to install any custom rom from cwm (flashed with odin) I get soft-brick I.e. bootloop where device is stuck on samsung logo.
If i try to flash modem (reception sux) and put device to sleep it disables 3G and wifi. Only restarting or manually reseting APN helps to restore 3G connection.
Flashing original roms with odin works fine.
Any help on installing custom rom or flashing modems will be highly appreciated.
Thank you in advance.
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Meant to reply instead of thank. Sorry!
You need to flash a 4.4.2 or 4.3 tar through ODIN. This will restore your phone but knox will of course remain tripped. Make sure you flash a radio for knox bootloader (4.4.2 or 4.3). I`m guessing you are using a radio for old bootloader. That is why you are getting these issues.
Once your phone is working, flash CF auto root in ODIN, then download ROM manager and flash CWM for your device (ie jfltexx if you have international version). Then
Thanks for quick reply.
One more stupid question:
How can I distinguish between radios for knox bootloader and regular ones?
I asuume it is in the radio name, but where?
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Mifodiy said:
Thanks for quick reply.
One more stupid question:
How can I distinguish between radios for knox bootloader and regular ones?
I asuume it is in the radio name, but where?
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Hi, first of all, download terminal emulator from playstore. Open it and type:
su (hit enter)
getprop ro.bootloader (hit enter)
It shows you a firmware version. Let's say, the last letters are NB8 for example. This means you are ready on the NB8 bootloader. So you need also the NB8 modem (baseband).
Hate to jack the thread but judging from what i am reading, there is a way to enjoy custom recovery and custom rom with knox tripped.
Sorry again but this knox thing is new to me and preventing me from customizing my device sch-i435 the sgs4mini verizon but being its the little version of the big boy I figured someone could enlighten me real quick. thanks and srry for the thread jack.
Yes there is no problem to install custom recovery. However custom rom has proved to be pain it tha A until now. I will try installing 4.4.2 by omega or wanam this weekend and update on how it went.
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justlovejoy said:
Hate to jack the thread but judging from what i am reading, there is a way to enjoy custom recovery and custom rom with knox tripped.
Sorry again but this knox thing is new to me and preventing me from customizing my device sch-i435 the sgs4mini verizon but being its the little version of the big boy I figured someone could enlighten me real quick. thanks and srry for the thread jack.
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As I mentioned before:
No problem flashing custom recovery.
Also I just flashed Omega v24 custom rom based on original 4.4.2 and it works perfectly.
Apparently the problem was I was trying to install custom roms that didn't support new bootloader, which tripped my knox efuse in the first place.
For future reference: if you flashing knox enabled bootloader it will trip the efuse and void your warranty, but imho it totally worth it.
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I have a Sprint Galaxy S4. I old one broke and i got a another using my warranty. There was no way they could repair it. it had a rock go through the phone. My old one had the old bootloader and i rooted it, installed CWM bootloader and had custom roms on it. I liked it that way. My new one had the newer Kit Kat OS on it. I was aware of the KNOX counter on the newer version of android. I know i can root it with out tripping the KNOX counter but can you install custom roms on my phone. What if i don't care about tripping the KNOX counter can i still install CWM or Philz recovery? If so, will KNOX let me install custom roms. Basically i want to do what i used to do on my old phone; freely try different recoveries/bootloaders and custom roms, with out KNOX interfering. At the very minimum have root access and install any of the newer custom roms that are out there( particularly the Negalite rom.)
Yes you can. Search next time please. This has been answered before.
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daniel4653 said:
Yes you can. Search next time please. This has been answered before.
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can you provide a link.
Hello,
I would like to have a custom rom on my s5 and I want my knox 0. Im rooted on lollipop 5.0. It's possible? I need to put a custom recovery and if I do that, my knox will be at 1. Someone can tell how to install custom recovery with always my knox 0.
Thank you.
You can't other than safestrap which is not working on 5, you can use flashfire but that isn't really a recovery except for the flashing zips part.
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Won't a custom rom install it's own recovery?......that being the case, even if you didn't start out by flashing a standalone custom recovery, knox is still going to be tripped when you flash the custom rom.......
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
keithross39 said:
Won't a custom rom install it's own recovery?......that being the case, even if you didn't start out by flashing a standalone custom recovery, knox is still going to be tripped when you flash the custom rom.......
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
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Not 100% but I don't think custom rom trips lnox its recovery(and unless you use towelroot then by proxy root) that trips it, I might be wrong though.
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Rakuu said:
Not 100% but I don't think custom rom trips lnox its recovery(and unless you use towelroot then by proxy root) that trips it, I might be wrong though.
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I was under the impression / had heard that flashing any 'unsigned' (non Samsung, unofficial) software would trip knox........
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
keithross39 said:
I was under the impression / had heard that flashing any 'unsigned' (non Samsung, unofficial) software would trip knox........
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
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Not all too sure myself, I know with custom recoveries its when you boot in to the custom recovery, next to no idea about things like CM and stuff though, that said I think they require flashing through a custom recovery so like I said above with root, your probably trip it by proxy from needing the recovery.
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If you keep stock kernel and recovery and only flash custom rom via mobile odin/flash fire the knox won't be tripped. I had my S5 like that for a while before I decided to flash custom recovery.
Pjerisimo said:
If you keep stock kernel and recovery and only flash custom rom via mobile odin/flash fire the knox won't be tripped. I had my S5 like that for a while before I decided to flash custom recovery.
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That is something I've not heard of before.....
Good to know
Which roms are compatible with a stock kernel?
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
This is the one I used: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/development/rom-neatrom-v1-t2828562
This one should work as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/development/galaxy-project-galaxy-s5-t3138583
Basically every rom that doesn't include custom kernel should work.