[Q] can you flash custom roms with KNOX bootloader - Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot

I have a Sprint Galaxy S4. I old one broke and i got a another using my warranty. There was no way they could repair it. it had a rock go through the phone. My old one had the old bootloader and i rooted it, installed CWM bootloader and had custom roms on it. I liked it that way. My new one had the newer Kit Kat OS on it. I was aware of the KNOX counter on the newer version of android. I know i can root it with out tripping the KNOX counter but can you install custom roms on my phone. What if i don't care about tripping the KNOX counter can i still install CWM or Philz recovery? If so, will KNOX let me install custom roms. Basically i want to do what i used to do on my old phone; freely try different recoveries/bootloaders and custom roms, with out KNOX interfering. At the very minimum have root access and install any of the newer custom roms that are out there( particularly the Negalite rom.)

Yes you can. Search next time please. This has been answered before.
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daniel4653 said:
Yes you can. Search next time please. This has been answered before.
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can you provide a link.

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KNOX confusion

This KNOX thing is creating too much confusion. Somebody please clear it. Some say that KNOX won't allow us to root ar flash custom kernels n roms. Some are say that KNOX bootloader can be replaced. I am using GT-I9500 (4.3 official, MJ8 build number, not rooted), which i wish to root. What should i exactly do to get rid of knox?
Please help. Thanks
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I too am confused with this whole Knox stuff. But from my experience, you can Root and install custom software but it will void your warranty. I'm not sure if it's any different on the 9500 as I've got a 9505 but there is currently NO way to get rid of Knox, once you've got it, you're stuck with it.
Pulse654321 said:
I too am confused with this whole Knox stuff. But from my experience, you can Root and install custom software but it will void your warranty. I'm not sure if it's any different on the 9500 as I've got a 9505 but there is currently NO way to get rid of Knox, once you've got it, you're stuck with it.
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Maby not ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504258 and this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2510867
you can root after upgrading to knox
you can also install a custom recovery
knox counter (which is not really a counter if my understanding is correct) will increase to 1, meaning you will loose the waranty
so I was running the last S4 official firmware, I root'ed it using CF auto root, then installed philz touch recoveryn than i flashed the goole edition rom from jamal
and of course I lost the waranty, hope I wont need it
philuxe said:
you can root after upgrading to knox
you can also install a custom recovery
knox counter (which is not really a counter if my understanding is correct) will increase to 1, meaning you will loose the waranty
so I was running the last S4 official firmware, I root'ed it using CF auto root, then installed philz touch recoveryn than i flashed the goole edition rom from jamal
and of course I lost the waranty, hope I wont need it
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So now that i want to root my GT-I9500 (Indian, running 4.3 stock, MJ8 firmware), will CF autoroot work?
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[Q] n7105 (5! not 0!) how to root and flash and not trip KNOX!?!?

N7105
n7105
n7105
Simple.
Lots of info out there for n7100 but, how do you root and flash a custom rom and kurnal without triggering the KNOX eFuse on n7105?!?!
Also, does it even matter if I break KNOX? I get that it voids ur warranty (don't care, have none), but does it actually change anything in the software environment?
Thanks in advance
robertharvey_90 said:
N7105
n7105
n7105
Simple.
Lots of info out there for n7100 but, how do you root and flash a custom rom and kurnal without triggering the KNOX eFuse on n7105?!?!
Also, does it even matter if I break KNOX? I get that it voids ur warranty (don't care, have none), but does it actually change anything in the software environment?
Thanks in advance
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- find your favourite kernel and ROM
- download onto sd card
- follow instructions provided in thread.
what this really comes down to is, flash a new recovery from the default recovery, i recommend philz cwm, reboot into your new recovery, wipe caches for new ROM, install zips, reboot, done!
If you dont care that your warranty might be lost, feel free to follow any method mentioned in the N7105 section. You need to get a custom recovery first, I recommend Philz touch. Once you have custom recovery, sky is the limit for you!
Thanks but
Thanks, but just to be clear, is there a way to do it? Install custom recovery, root, rom, etc. Without tripping knox.
Tried using some methods that are said to work. But n7105 is not supported. Only n7100... There has to be a way
Thanks
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Just FYI, questions should go in the Q and A section mate.
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[Q] How to root Samsung Galaxy Note 3 SM-N9005 4.4.2 kitkat

Hello guys, I'd like to ask on how to root my Samsung Galaxy Note 3 SM-N9005 kitkat 4.4.2 XXUENC2. I tried many root methods already but none of them work, maybe they are old already or outdated. So, Guys. If you know any root method that might work please kindly reply here below and I'll give you a +Rep and a Cookie.
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RazerKnight17 said:
Hello guys, I'd like to ask on how to root my Samsung Galaxy Note 3 SM-N9005 kitkat 4.4.2 XXUENC2. I tried many root methods already but none of them work, maybe they are old already or outdated. So, Guys. If you know any root method that might work please kindly reply here below and I'll give you a +Rep and a Cookie.
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Tried towelroof before?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157
Towelroot v3 4.4.2 kk
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CF Auto Root for N9005 worked for me
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466423
Hope It Helps
Any root method without tripping knox?
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3kgt said:
Any root method without tripping knox?
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Maybe try Mobile Odin Pro 3.85
Here is a link that might give you some help
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2522729
Qns on ROMs
Hi Guys,
My SM-9005 kitkat 4.4.2 kernel 3.4.0-1703205 baseband N9005DXUENE3 was rooted with Towelroot and I've checked with rootchecker, it says that I have root access. However in my phone's download page my system status remain as "official" instead of "custom". Is my device rooted properly? or Is this normal?
1) How to install custom recovery compatible with my device?
2) Currently my Knox remain as 0x0, will the process of installing a custom ROM trip Knox by any chance?
3) Are launchers only compatible with stock ROMs and not custom ROMs?
4) Currently what are the top Stock & Custom ROMs compatible with my device? (If I'm focusing more on games,performance, batt life and very low usage of S pen).
Thanks in advance!
Mouzai said:
Hi Guys,
My SM-9005 kitkat 4.4.2 kernel 3.4.0-1703205 baseband N9005DXUENE3 was rooted with Towelroot and I've checked with rootchecker, it says that I have root access. However in my phone's download page my system status remain as "official" instead of "custom". Is my device rooted properly? or Is this normal?
1) How to install custom recovery compatible with my device?
2) Currently my Knox remain as 0x0, will the process of installing a custom ROM trip Knox by any chance?
3) Are launchers only compatible with stock ROMs and not custom ROMs?
4) Currently what are the top Stock & Custom ROMs compatible with my device? (If I'm focusing more on games,performance, batt life and very low usage of S pen).
Thanks in advance!
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Search before you ask for help. All these have been answered many times in this very forum.
Official or custom system status has nothing to do with rooting.
Find custom recovery from development section and flash it with Odin.
Custom ROM does not trip KNOX, but flashing custom recovery and/or kernel will.
What launchers you have in mind? Stock TouchWiz ones might only work on stock(-based) ROMs. Third-party launchers should work on all ROMs, though exceptions can occur.
There is no best ROM. Try different ROMs ones, see yourself what is best. A ROM may be best for one, worst for other.
Also - If you don't care about the journey of Android ROMs, you are not supposed to be here.
Mouzai said:
Hi Guys,
My SM-9005 kitkat 4.4.2 kernel 3.4.0-1703205 baseband N9005DXUENE3 was rooted with Towelroot and I've checked with rootchecker, it says that I have root access. However in my phone's download page my system status remain as "official" instead of "custom". Is my device rooted properly? or Is this normal?
1) How to install custom recovery compatible with my device?
2) Currently my Knox remain as 0x0, will the process of installing a custom ROM trip Knox by any chance?
3) Are launchers only compatible with stock ROMs and not custom ROMs?
4) Currently what are the top Stock & Custom ROMs compatible with my device? (If I'm focusing more on games,performance, batt life and very low usage of S pen).
Thanks in advance!
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Hey mate! That's the advantage of towelroot. You are rooted without tripping knox warranty or changing the status to custom. In other words, you could still get OTA updates when it's available eventhough you're rooted
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3kgt said:
Any root method without tripping knox?
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Towelroot. Developed by geohot. The badass guy who developed jailbreaking in ios.
Download / Install the apk
Click the "make it rain" button
You are rooted!
Check knox still 0x0. Status still samsung official means u cn still get ota updates.
Cheers.
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Someguyfromhell said:
Search before you ask for help. All these have been answered many times in this very forum.
Official or custom system status has nothing to do with rooting.
Find custom recovery from development section and flash it with Odin.
Custom ROM does not trip KNOX, but flashing custom recovery and/or kernel will.
What launchers you have in mind? Stock TouchWiz ones might only work on stock(-based) ROMs. Third-party launchers should work on all ROMs, though exceptions can occur.
There is no best ROM. Try different ROMs ones, see yourself what is best. A ROM may be best for one, worst for other.
Also - If you don't care about the journey of Android ROMs, you are not supposed to be here.
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Hi,
Thanks for your clarification, still a bit confused though, and I don't understand you by "If you don't care about the journey of Android ROMs, you are not supposed to be here". Please don't feel offended as I'm new & total noob to the root & the ROM "world". FYI, I did search & read up the internet for information but I don't understand most of it. Thus I'm seeking help here.
1) In order to install & flash any Custom ROM, one must have custom recovery for back up first right? Since by flashing a custom recovery will trip Knox, then why do so many people (including me) trying so hard to find a way to root our devices without tripping Knox in the first place?
2) Does custom ROMs & kernels comes separately and not together? For example, I can install custom rom A and flashing kernel B from custom rom B or other sources?
3) Are there ways to customize or modify my device e.g Changing boot up animation, overclocking the processor, changing batt logo etc... while rooted and running on original ROM?

[Q] Flashing custom rom

Can you flash any custom roms with mobile ODIN without tripping knox flag after using towelroot, followed by Chainfire's SUPERSU?
Or you can only flash roms which stated (knox 0x0)??
combatuser said:
Can you flash any custom roms with mobile ODIN without tripping knox flag after using towelroot, followed by Chainfire's SUPERSU?
Or you can only flash roms which stated (knox 0x0)??
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no!! you can only flash roms using recovery.
mobile odin is for flashing firmwares only.
take a look on this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2835305
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combatuser said:
Can you flash any custom roms with mobile ODIN without tripping knox flag after using towelroot, followed by Chainfire's SUPERSU?
Or you can only flash roms which stated (knox 0x0)??
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In practical terms, no. A custom ROM is going to mean accepting that your Knox flag increments to 0x1. That is because custom ROMs are invariably packaged as flashable zip files, intended to be installed from a custom recovery session. It's installing a custom recovery that would actually increment Knox.
You could in theory (i.e. I don't see why not, but I haven't tested it), install a custom ROM from the command line of a rooted phone. But you'd have to figure out what goes where.. basically disassemble their install script and make a todo list that you'd have to replicate from the command line.
Pragmatically no one is going to go to that amount of work. So the effective answer is no. If you want to install a custom ROM, then you have to commit to a custom recovery first, which will increment Knox. Most people don't obsess about the Knox bit. But if you are unwilling to change your Knox flag, then you are effectively barred from custom ROMs. Unless you found someone who packaged a custom ROM for just your situation and a view of avoiding a Knox increment anyway.
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NOOB QUESTION
what's the problem with tripping knox?
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la2o said:
NOOB QUESTION
what's the problem with tripping knox?
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it will void the warrenty of the device if it got tripped. so some people want to root without losing their device warranty
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Galaxy_Guy said:
it will void the warrenty of the device if it got tripped. so some people want to root without losing their device warranty
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Ahh i see, thank you very much
Thanks, GalaxyGuy, I've read your thread before opening this post. I thought NeatRom was a custom rom. So NeatRom is basically a custom firmware?
Thanks fffft for the reply. And I actually flashed Phoenix Rom v3 through Mobile ODIN and checking 'wipe data' and 'dalvic cache'. Everything seems to work fine even without a custom revovery. And my knox is (0x1), but I'm quite happy with the custom rom.
I heard that there's a way to make the knox flag reset for Note 3, although if it works on S5, it will be a bonus.
combatuser said:
Thanks, GalaxyGuy, I've read your thread before opening this post. I thought NeatRom was a custom rom. So NeatRom is basically a custom firmware?
Thanks fffft for the reply. And I actually flashed Phoenix Rom v3 through Mobile ODIN and checking 'wipe data' and 'dalvic cache'. Everything seems to work fine even without a custom revovery. And my knox is (0x1), but I'm quite happy with the custom rom.
I heard that there's a way to make the knox flag reset for Note 3, although if it works on S5, it will be a bonus.
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no its a rom but the dev of the neat rom have found a way to flash his rom using mobile odin , that's doesn't mean every rom is able to flash using mobile odin.
the best thing to do is to read the installation guide of the rom to know if you can flash it by odin or you must use a recovery
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Custom Recovery With KNOX 0 - I am rooted

Hello,
I would like to have a custom rom on my s5 and I want my knox 0. Im rooted on lollipop 5.0. It's possible? I need to put a custom recovery and if I do that, my knox will be at 1. Someone can tell how to install custom recovery with always my knox 0.
Thank you.
You can't other than safestrap which is not working on 5, you can use flashfire but that isn't really a recovery except for the flashing zips part.
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Won't a custom rom install it's own recovery?......that being the case, even if you didn't start out by flashing a standalone custom recovery, knox is still going to be tripped when you flash the custom rom.......
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
keithross39 said:
Won't a custom rom install it's own recovery?......that being the case, even if you didn't start out by flashing a standalone custom recovery, knox is still going to be tripped when you flash the custom rom.......
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
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Not 100% but I don't think custom rom trips lnox its recovery(and unless you use towelroot then by proxy root) that trips it, I might be wrong though.
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Rakuu said:
Not 100% but I don't think custom rom trips lnox its recovery(and unless you use towelroot then by proxy root) that trips it, I might be wrong though.
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I was under the impression / had heard that flashing any 'unsigned' (non Samsung, unofficial) software would trip knox........
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
keithross39 said:
I was under the impression / had heard that flashing any 'unsigned' (non Samsung, unofficial) software would trip knox........
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
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Not all too sure myself, I know with custom recoveries its when you boot in to the custom recovery, next to no idea about things like CM and stuff though, that said I think they require flashing through a custom recovery so like I said above with root, your probably trip it by proxy from needing the recovery.
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If you keep stock kernel and recovery and only flash custom rom via mobile odin/flash fire the knox won't be tripped. I had my S5 like that for a while before I decided to flash custom recovery.
Pjerisimo said:
If you keep stock kernel and recovery and only flash custom rom via mobile odin/flash fire the knox won't be tripped. I had my S5 like that for a while before I decided to flash custom recovery.
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That is something I've not heard of before.....
Good to know
Which roms are compatible with a stock kernel?
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
This is the one I used: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/development/rom-neatrom-v1-t2828562
This one should work as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/development/galaxy-project-galaxy-s5-t3138583
Basically every rom that doesn't include custom kernel should work.

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