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i logged into android device with same gmail user account on 2 devices. then i installed IM+ Messenger in atrix and launched IM+ which was there in previous phone. It automatically logged into IM+ yahoo ID. had anybody faced same situation. why is it remembering my user accounts? itz worst part on android. Android/Google real privacy destroyers. please comment on this. This is the reason i hate android.
that is because when you logged into IM+ with your username it auto loads all previous accounts like yahoo, msn....nothing to do with android it is to do with IM+ app
NO, I did not use any username in IM+ messenger. I installed it from android market place and then i launched the IM+ for the 1st time in atrix. then it automatically opened up yahoo account which was there in other device. please comment on this.
noid said:
NO, I did not use any username in IM+ messenger. I installed it from android market place and then i launched the IM+ for the 1st time in atrix. then it automatically opened up yahoo account which was there in other device. please comment on this.
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Two possibilities:
IM+ Messenger uses a proxy for communicating to its IM services. So when you start up IM+ for the first time, it "remembers" what services you had recorded with it.
If I understand you properly, you're saying that IM+ Messenger "remembered" your login info from your previous phone, even if you didn't record it. On previous Android devices, when starting up, I got a message asking whether or not I wanted application data to be "savable" to Google's servers - I did notice that didn't come up on the Atrix. But if IM+ Messenger is using that feature, it's storing application data on Google's servers. In that case, feel free to blame Google for offering the service, but also blame Shape Services for using that functionality.
Hi guys!
I am a happy android user on a galaxy nexus. I was waiting for the nexus 4 but I live in Italy and it is going to sell for about 600€ versus the 350$ so I'm pretty disappointed. I started looking around and I'm curious about the new WP8 and, especially, the Lumia 920. I haven't had a Nokia in ages!
The deal breaker is the app eco system.
I am a big Google services user and have understood that there is total sync capability while I m still undecided on the app part.
Is there a site with a list where I can find the most common apps or app categories on android and see if there is a counter part in wp 8?
My last resort would be going on the windows market place and just look around.
Thank you!
PS I searched in the forum but wasn't able to find anything very specific
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The best thing to do is search the marketplace yourself. You will find apps for almost everything you do on android, except those rendered useless by the system (in WP, system apps are actually doing a pretty damn good job and do not require replacement from the marketplace), but they are likely under different names, so a list would be very difficult and pointless to compile.
I switched from Android to Windows Phone 8 and i have everything i used on Android. Sure i miss some apps, like PowerAMP; Google+, a good Facebook App and a AD Blocker app. But i can life without them. There are some apps as well which sucks like WhatsApp, but i guess WhatsApp is goin to fix that soon.
What are your favorite apps on Android ?
I consider essential apps like
Google reader,
adobe reader,
kindle,
evernote,
medscape,
epocrates,
Dropbox,
whatsapp (I barely eve use SMS'),
And of course Google maps
I'm a doctor so I use a lot of medical apps but seeing the shortage on android vs iOS I bell believe wp8 only to be worse...
I have to ask what is the point of using Evernote as in Windows environment you have OneNote? You sync your OneNotes automatically to your Outlook (or Live/Hotmail) account and can sync to desktop.
Well, first of all I don't have a Microsoft environment (I have a Mac, galaxy nexus, iPad and nexus 7!) and second I have never had a windows phone so I really don't know how all the syncing works!
Since I work on different platforms I use drop box for documents and evernote for notes and everything is always perfectly synced!
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I consider essential apps like
Google reader,
adobe reader,
kindle,
evernote,
medscape,
epocrates,
Dropbox,
whatsapp (I barely eve use SMS'),
And of course Google maps
I'm a doctor so I use a lot of medical apps but seeing the shortage on android vs iOS I bell believe wp8 only to be worse...
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Not sure what Google reader does, but it is not needed.
Adobe reader is present
Kindle is present
Evernote is present, although you have one note.
Drop box is present (although you have skydrive)
whatsapp is not needed
Google maps is not needed (you have offline maps: nokia maps)
As for other medical apps, i am not entirely sure what kind of medical apps you would expect to have, but there's plenty of WP ones.
Even if you use a MAC< getting a Microsoft account and using hotmail/outlook is easy(you only need a browser).
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Not sure what Google reader does, but it is not needed.
Adobe reader is present
Kindle is present
Evernote is present, although you have one note.
Drop box is present (although you have skydrive)
whatsapp is not needed
Google maps is not needed (you have offline maps: nokia maps)
As for other medical apps, i am not entirely sure what kind of medical apps you would expect to have, but there's plenty of WP ones.
Even if you use a MAC< getting a Microsoft account and using hotmail/outlook is easy(you only need a browser).
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Why do say that whatsapp is not needed?
Google reader is a RSS feed app
I already have a hotmail account, I just prefer to use less accounts possible (I know, I can filter and forward messages!)
I prefer Dropbox because all my friends and colleagues have it so it is just easier to handle files.
Off topic: just went to see a Lumia 920 and it looks really nice!
I think "WhatsApp not needed" is a typo. WP has WhatsApp and they are about to update it too.
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WP is like Android. MS wants you to have Outlook/Hotmail/Live email address to access marketplace etc. So you need to have the account. You dont need to sync the emails to your phone if you dont want. Also you use that account to connect with Twitter and Facebook chat. With that account you get SkyDrive space of I think 7gb for free (I got it upgraded to 25gb for free, but that offer is not valid anymore)
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Why do say that whatsapp is not needed?
Google reader is a RSS feed app
I already have a hotmail account, I just prefer to use less accounts possible (I know, I can filter and forward messages!)
I prefer Dropbox because all my friends and colleagues have it so it is just easier to handle files.
Off topic: just went to see a Lumia 920 and it looks really nice!
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Dropbox is present and accounted for.
As for RSS feed apps, you have plenty. Google is not really active in Windows Phone area, as they will do everything to undermine the platform.
As for using accounts, Windows Phone has a very clean way of managing accounts. Just add them one by one, and you get different apps for each one of them, they are all nicely filtered and stuff like that. You can easily make a hotmail account for the marketplace and keep using your old accounts for the rest of the things you do.
ATM i have 3 accounts attached to my lumia 800: My "marketplace" account which happens to be my main email address, my developer account, under which i publish apps, and some yahoo email for family members. They are all working nicely.
@OP that's kind of a hard question. The apps depends on each user. Some people don't use any while others depend on very specific apps.
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Is there any good app that plays AVI or MKV files? for Android, there's MX player is there an equivalent app for W8?
I use Nextgen Reader for the Google reader app. Works better than the Google app on Android imo.
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Is there any good app that plays AVI or MKV files? for Android, there's MX player is there an equivalent app for W8?
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So far, there are no apps that let you play alternative formats/containers.
Regarding the OP: I can't find any medical apps on the marketplace, I'm sorry
You need a Microsoft account but you do not need another hotmail account. My Microsoft account is my corporate email address.
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You need a Microsoft account but you do not need another hotmail account. My Microsoft account is my corporate email address.
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What, are you saying I could use my o365 account? I dont think so but please say Im wring here. My o365 account is configured so that my address is [email protected].
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What, are you saying I could use my o365 account? I dont think so but please say Im wring here. My o365 account is configured so that my address is [email protected].
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You can definitely use your O365 account for e-mail, etc.; if you also have a Microsoft Account (a.k.a. .Net Passport/Windows Live/other names it's gone by in the past) set up using that same e-mail address, you can use it as your main account that's tied to the Store, etc. to buy apps and whatnot. I was doing exactly that for a while ([email protected] hosted on Office365 and also tied in as a Microsoft Account). I'm no longer using Office365 to host that e-mail (just moved it to outlook.com for free since it's a personal account), but it's still my Microsoft Account. It all ties together nicely with whatever combination of accounts you use.
I was just looking at the app list for wp8 and its getting better.
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I consider essential apps like
Google reader,
adobe reader,
kindle,
evernote,
medscape,
epocrates,
Dropbox,
whatsapp (I barely eve use SMS'),
And of course Google maps
I'm a doctor so I use a lot of medical apps but seeing the shortage on android vs iOS I bell believe wp8 only to be worse...
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Being a 4th year pharmacy student I can answer your medical application questions. There is no epocrates, medscape, lexicomp, clinical pharmacology, etc...
But there is a PubMed Mobile not made by them as far as I can tell. Just shows you search results and then when you click one it takes you to the website. Found an application called Drugs&Medications it's a dollar and tells you facts about drugs (company, dosage form, common indications, and links you to the FDA website didn't buy it so can't fact check it).
That being said I found some applications from http://www.unboundmedicine.com/products/windows_phone/ on the store.
So yes you're right it is worse. I've already accepted that I'll have to switch to an iPhone for my rotations lol.
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You can definitely use your O365 account for e-mail, etc.; if you also have a Microsoft Account (a.k.a. .Net Passport/Windows Live/other names it's gone by in the past) set up using that same e-mail address, you can use it as your main account that's tied to the Store, etc. to buy apps and whatnot. I was doing exactly that for a while ([email protected] hosted on Office365 and also tied in as a Microsoft Account). I'm no longer using Office365 to host that e-mail (just moved it to outlook.com for free since it's a personal account), but it's still my Microsoft Account. It all ties together nicely with whatever combination of accounts you use.
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Anyway if you could tie marketplace to o365 account, you still need Live (Hotmail or Outlook etc) to connect with Facebook chat and twitter. It is still best to have the Live account as main account and other accounts like o365 secondary.
Warning for everyone who uses the Samsung applications for (at least) email!
If you use the Samsung email application then YOU JUST GAVE SAMSUNG your username(s) and password(s)!
How did I find out about this? Easy, and you can try it too if you know how to run an email server.
I run my own IMAP email server. So I configured email on the phone and then I synchronised my email.
Then I had a look on my server to see what my phone was doing.... and HOLY SHIITAKE! It wasn't my phone's IP address... it was Samsung's IP address195.124.9.34 which is eu025-egress-a.fra.samsungsocialhub.com.
That means your phone logs into Samsung's servers and Samsung's servers log into the email server.
Yes, I'm extremely worried by this. Just think about how many politicians, CEOs, sysadmins, and ordinary people use Samsung's email program! We know Google does this on their own servers but if you use a different IMAP or POP3 server for email then you wouldn't expect Samsung to read over your shoulder!
Is this even legal???
What type of connection did you establish between your IMAP server and the phone? Do you have it set to periodic polling (check every few minutes) or have you set it to "push" mail of some sort.
If the latter one is the case, i believe there is no alternative to letting the samsung server check for new mail and send the notification to your phone when it arrives. Otherwise your phone would have to send/receive your IMAP info all the time and would be battery dead in no time.
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What type of connection did you establish between your IMAP server and the phone? Do you have it set to periodic polling (check every few minutes) or have you set it to "push" mail of some sort.
If the latter one is the case, i believe there is no alternative to letting the samsung server check for new mail and send the notification to your phone when it arrives. Otherwise your phone would have to send/receive your IMAP info all the time and would be battery dead in no time.
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It happened during a manual synchronisation. But even if it were periodic, IMAP has an IDLE command. My HTC One S can do this in exactly the same way without using HTC's servers. That is why this is so alarming. You never knew your password would be used by Samsung.
this is one of the most stupidest things i have ever read
whats so special if it goes through samsung's server
your emails are hosted on gmail servers does that mean google spies on us ? maybe maybe not
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this is one of the most stupidest things i have ever read
whats so special if it goes through samsung's server
your emails are hosted on gmail servers does that mean google spies on us ? maybe maybe not
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Third party knowing your password is a huge security problem.
Stop smoking so much hash
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Who actually cares
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This is stupid mate what a waste of thread...its not like you discovered america mr colombus. We all know our username and passworda are stored in email servers...how the heck are you excpected to log in and out of your email accounts ??
Close this off man...its a waste.
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This is stupid mate what a waste of thread...its not like you discovered america mr colombus. We all know our username and passworda are stored in email servers...how the heck are you excpected to log in and out of your email accounts ??
Close this off man...its a waste.
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this is one of the most stupidest things i have ever read
whats so special if it goes through samsung's server
your emails are hosted on gmail servers does that mean google spies on us ? maybe maybe not
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Don't be so quick on that guys, he's pointing out a legitimate thing.
When you setup an IMAP Server yourself (like [email protected]) and you add it to an IMAP Mail client (like the "mail" app), there should be no reason to contact a third server which has nothing do to with your IMAP server (unless that server adds some functionality, like the push mail i suggested).
CORRECT METHOD
IMAP CLIENT (Has username/PW) --------> IMAP SERVER (any server, checks username/PW, sends mail to client)
SAMSUNGS MAIL METHOD
IMAP CLIENT (Has username/PW) -------> SAMSUNG SERVER (transmits username/PW) -----> IMAP Server (any server, checks username/PW, sends mail to client - or samsung?)
So, i think we should look into this. Not because i don't trust Samsung, but it's an unnecessary step which shouldn't be taken. And it hans over your credentials to a third party, usually without you knowing about it.
thanks for the effort mate.. lol!
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Don't be so quick on that guys, he's pointing out a legitimate thing.
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So, i think we should look into this. Not because i don't trust Samsung, but it's an unnecessary step which shouldn't be taken. And it hans over your credentials to a third party, usually without you knowing about it.
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Exactly. People can call me stupid or they can not give a sh* about their own privacy, but these are legitimate concerns. I don't care if people who work their boring job and don't have much self worth aren't able to see the worthyness of pointing out this issue, but it does not mean that there is no issue to begin with -- there is, really, there is.
Just imagine the following examples where only private (non-gmail, non-hotmail) servers are being used.
1) You work at Apple. You're a big shot. But you like android more, so you bought a Galaxy. You configure your corporate email account on it. You don't realise all emails, usernames and passwords are being sent via Samsung. The emails include corporate secrets, patents and so forth.
2) You're a Korean dissident emailing in secret using your Galaxy S2 on human rights abuses.
3) You're a Russian diplomat working together with North Korea.
3) You're a politician. You work in the EU on the Digital Rights Assembly.
4) You're a judge and work on copyright and patent cases.
Do I really need to point out the implications of any entity secretly reading these emails?
that should only happen if you use the advanced imap stuff, which i guess is samsung's way to do push for non-push enabled server types.
I really don't care..I'm not a spy or anything
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I really don't care..I'm not a spy or anything
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You really don't get it do you? I am saying you are being spied on!
Just pretend you would care: what would you do if you would care?
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that should only happen if you use the advanced imap stuff, which i guess is samsung's way to do push for non-push enabled server types.
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This happens for all servers, not only servers that don't support push.
Thank god i never used samsung email app. And also i never used any chinese app due to sevuriyy reasons.
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First: to all who say "what do I care, I'm not a spy, I've got nothing to hide" - you're the stupid sheep who give up your privacy and freedom, who don't care about your rights, who will happily accept invasive "security measures" which destroy people's private life, who will accept any government abuse in the name of "security". If you "don't care" that your email (and others) can be so easily snooped, I guess you will not complain when a bored hacker gets a copy of them and publishes them online, so everyone will see your medical records, your sex life details, your "innocent" flirting with the new secretary at work, etc. Sheep !
There, cooled off a bit now. Ah, and if you say "Google has my emails anyway": yes, they do, but that's a free service which you're paying with your personal details in order to get advertising. If you're holding private/sensitive information there, be wary.
@voidzero: have you tried capturing the traffic sent from the phone ? if you enable SSL for your IMAP server, it should at least trigger a warning about certs being wrong, IMHO. Use Maildroid in the mean time, much better than the Samsung client.
never had the time to check this but I was pretty sure that if not all but most of the 'traffic' that is in "your" phone is going through samsung or whatever the app you are running. Its a privacy issue and probably a serious one, thats why you should be carefull on what you use and post with your phone. The ppl who doesnt cares about their privacy, sooner or later they will release they were very wrong, when their information be used againt them.
It's probably Samsung's push servers.
I just sent an email stating "Samsung can suck my ****" and my Samsung TV exploded!
Coincidence? I think not.
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Starting February 1st 2013, Windows Phone users won't be able to create full Gmail accounts on Windows Phone. Does Microsoft have a plan?
This afternoon Google has announced the discontinuation of their support of Exchange ActiveSync (EAS aka the standard for many who use email) after January 30th 2013. The question you may be wondering is, how does it affect Windows Phone?
More here from Windows Phone Central http://www.wpcentral.com/google-drops-exchange-activesync-what-s-it-mean-windows-phone
Is this going to affect you ? I sync email, contacts and calendar from google so will this be shut off to existing users who are already setup at the end of January ?
I don't really want to move all my gmail stuff which is work related to microsoft, and I also don't want to give up my 820 so this has thrown a spanner in the works for me.
This means:
1. If you already have your Gmail account set up as a Exchange ActiveSync account on February 1st, it will continue to work for you.
2. If you try to add a new Gmail account (or delete your existing one and try to re-add it, or get a new phone/device/tablet) after February 1st, you will no longer be able to connect it as an Exchange ActiveSync account, which means no tasks, calendar, and contacts.
3. Calendar sync has already been disabled, so if you try to add a Gmail account and sync your Calendar to your phone as of yesterday, it will no longer sync your Calendar.
4. You can still connect your Gmail e-mail using IMAP or POP3, so mail will continue to function after February 1st. Though you may have to recreate your account so that it works properly.
5. This affects any device that uses Exchange ActiveSync as a way to sync information through Google. So not just Windows Phone, but Microsoft Outlook, some older Nokia and Sony devices, other random devices/phones.
Ah thanks
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If you are using Google Apps and hosting a custom domain, nothing should change for you. As far as I know, even Calendar sync still works. However, Google Apps no longer offers a free version, that happened about two weeks ago, most likely in preparation for killing off EAS.
A few months ago this would have really irked me, but when I decided to try Outlook.com, it won me over. More importantly, thanks to Microsoft's free Live Domains hosting service, I've moved all my private, custom domains over to use Outlook.com as the default provider.
It's a safe bet that Microsoft will never discontinue support for Exchange Activesync, so I'm actually really happy. Plus, the deep integration with SkyDrive and other MS services means, simply enough, that I don't really give a **** what Google does anymore. I don't use their mediocre online office tools, nor their Drive service, nor their excellent but ultimately irrelevant in the face of Nokia, maps service. On top of that, the TubePro app for WP8 is far superior to the Google provided Youtube app on iOS or Android, so again, I'm not at all worried.
Windows phone 8 doesn't *need* Google.
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A few months ago this would have really irked me, but when I decided to try Outlook.com, it won me over. More importantly, thanks to Microsoft's free Live Domains hosting service, I've moved all my private, custom domains over to use Outlook.com as the default provider.
It's a safe bet that Microsoft will never discontinue support for Exchange Activesync, so I'm actually really happy. Plus, the deep integration with SkyDrive and other MS services means, simply enough, that I don't really give a **** what Google does anymore. I don't use their mediocre online office tools, nor their Drive service, nor their excellent but ultimately irrelevant in the face of Nokia, maps service. On top of that, the TubePro app for WP8 is far superior to the Google provided Youtube app on iOS or Android, so again, I'm not at all worried.
Windows phone 8 doesn't *need* Google.
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OOH, wow, I didn't know they offered that for free, I was about to buy an exchange email thru rackspace! Might have to give that a go.
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A few months ago this would have really irked me, but when I decided to try Outlook.com, it won me over. More importantly, thanks to Microsoft's free Live Domains hosting service, I've moved all my private, custom domains over to use Outlook.com as the default provider.
It's a safe bet that Microsoft will never discontinue support for Exchange Activesync, so I'm actually really happy. Plus, the deep integration with SkyDrive and other MS services means, simply enough, that I don't really give a **** what Google does anymore. I don't use their mediocre online office tools, nor their Drive service, nor their excellent but ultimately irrelevant in the face of Nokia, maps service. On top of that, the TubePro app for WP8 is far superior to the Google provided Youtube app on iOS or Android, so again, I'm not at all worried.
Windows phone 8 doesn't *need* Google.
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Could I please ask something about the Live Domains thing. What sort of control do you get on top of a normal Outlook.com account? Can you switch off ads like with a Google Apps account? I have a free Apps account right now and not sure whether to pay for it or move to an Outlook.com account and switch my domain over to Microsoft.
Http://domains.live.com to sign up.
What you get when you setup your domains for the Outlook.com servers, which is fairly simple (it involves proving domain ownership via DNS TXT record creation, and assigning new MX records to point to Microsoft's servers), is basic but robust. You can't turn off ads, but what you can do is create as many free email accounts as you want. Each is an official "Microsoft Account," which means of course that you get the same access to SkyDrive, office web apps, People (for contacts), Calendar, and so on, all wrapped in the sexy new UI. As the admin, you do have access to delete these user accounts, so ideally you won't be a **** to those you give accounts to .
If you want, you can also give away free email accounts on your domains. The first 500 are automatic and free, after that you have to ask them to up your limit, but it's still free (not sure if there's an upper limit, but it's something I'd like to test .
The Outlook.com UI of course offers gobs of advanced filtering options that are user manageable.
Screenshot of the main Control Panel UI attached. There are several more pages of options I didn't show because of course they have personal data, but suffice to say there are a fair few options. Plus, you can do co-branding if you want, which is slick in and of itself.
Now that I think of it...I need to set something up for that
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Could I please ask something about the Live Domains thing. What sort of control do you get on top of a normal Outlook.com account? Can you switch off ads like with a Google Apps account? I have a free Apps account right now and not sure whether to pay for it or move to an Outlook.com account and switch my domain over to Microsoft.
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Awesome reply. Thanks.
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Google will be removing Google sync support for WP. They called it "Winter Cleaning".
So Google contacts and Calender sync will not be available.
I say, if Google is rejecting WP, then Why doesn't Microsoft STOP Android OEMs from using Microsoft's PATENTS. Those Patents for which Android OEMs need to pay to Microsoft for every Android device they sale.
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Apourv said:
Google will be removing Google sync support for WP. They called it "Winter Cleaning".
So Google contacts and Calender sync will not be available.
I say, if Google is rejecting WP, then Why doesn't Microsoft STOP Android OEMs from using Microsoft's PATENTS. Those Patents for which Android OEMs need to pay to Microsoft for every Android device they sale.
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because that there is more income than all of windows phone
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Hate it when companies stop providing features just to push themselves and make other services/companies look bad.
Google's been a **** to Microsoft for a while now. Google pushes the abysmal mobile site that works on my ancient Nokia 5200, instead of the nice version to iOS and Android, to WinPhone7, the Youtube app is ridiculous, no maps. I bet Microsoft is a **** to Google too, but this whole thing sucks.
So then Microsoft goes around and doesn't give Google+ any love (Google+ is still trying to force me to use it, but I wont have any of it.)
Google's increasingly getting on my nerves and being more and more pushy, like a stalker. Reading my mail to push me ads, saving my searches to push me ads, it's just pissing me off. It's been consistently useless for all except domain name searching (For eg. if I want to find the official site for a product). Bing needs to up it's game so I can move to an alternative.
Apple is a master at this game too - they don't want to improve their touch APIs for WebKit, or make it open. They wont show any love to Microsoft's alternative touch API which even Chrome and Firefox people are supporting.
I'm trolling google everyday by using adblock.
Yeah, in 2013 ppl still don't know that such a tool exists...ffs
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I'm trolling google everyday by using adblock.
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that's a big 10-4....
As far as "reading my email" goes, anyone that isn't encrypting their emails is fooling themselves if there is any belief it is private, at any point along the intraweeb.
To support google's ecosystem, which MS will have to if they want to be competitive, they will need to adopt CalDAV and CardDAV, which is no bad thing because it gives us consumers choice.
The days of pushing proprietary technologies are, thankfully, over.
But how are consumers affected by these kind of technologies? It is not as obvious as using WP over android, or the other way around.
Microsoft exchange is still used by the overwhelming majority of people on this planet. Pretty much every single email service, apart from the one provided by Google and some business specific emails, uses this system. Almost every single email user on the planet has another email address than google.
Google is just afraid of microsoft cutting their services, that's all.
As a email user of this planet, I could not care less what technology lies behind my email address. It could MS exchange, it could be google's new framework. I don't care. And why? because the end result is basically the same: I can check my email address.
On the other hand, dropping support of such services disrupts my ability to check my email from my WP, for example. Now what? I don't see any benefit from that, only more tiresome things to do. Will I see Windows Phone as the problem? Hell no!. Google will be my problem. Will I drop google services? very likely.
Just as a side-note, the only google service is use is their search, because bing is nowhere near as powerful in my region.
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But how are consumers affected by these kind of technologies? It is not as obvious as using WP over android, or the other way around.
Microsoft exchange is still used by the overwhelming majority of people on this planet. Pretty much every single email service, apart from the one provided by Google and some business specific emails, uses this system. Almost every single email user on the planet has another email address than google.
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Eh, no. This is completely wrong. Exchange is but no means used by 'the overwhelming majority of people'. In business maybe, consumers no way.
Google have over 425 million users on gmail, Yahoo over 310 million and most people use either IMAP or POP3. Very, very few consumers are willing to pay for exchange.
uuh. You;re right, I was thinking about something else lol.
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To support google's ecosystem, which MS will have to if they want to be competitive, they will need to adopt CalDAV and CardDAV, which is no bad thing because it gives us consumers choice.
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How is this favoring the customers? My point is, if google is doing something to break what it is working, how will this be beneficial for users?
So, I've been searching for documentation on this, and can find nothing. I have no problem with the storage of standard wifi passwords, but is cloud sync going to cloud-store my employer's WPA2-enterprise user-specific credentials? That's going to violate workplace policy for many.
I'd like to add on to this a greater privacy question. What does cloud sync transmit and store, period? Just notification text, or things like all my contact details? Surprised there doesn't seem to be any documentation on it.
I'd be interested to know this as well. I have considered trying it but haven't yet.