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Email... push (IMAP IDLE) or poll for best battery life?

I've been doing a lot of searching (push poll battery), and not finding much of a definitive answer on this.
Battery life, vs. email checking method... what impact does push (IMAP IDLE) have vs. polling.
And very possibly the answer varies depending on how often you would poll... ie. I could see that polling every 5 minutes uses more battery than push, but polling only once/hour would use less .. I'm not saying that;s the case, just saying maybe the answers are not so clear b/c its not an always-this or always-that answer.
It appears that the GMail app uses push. I don't really use Gmail for my mail.. I have a home server (linux box) that runs an IMAP server (and webmail), so I have multiple ways I can get my mail
a) over the web via browser
b) using K-9 to access my home IMAP via poll (let's say every 15 minutes)
c) using K-9 to access my home IMAP via IMAP IDLE (push)
d) insert other idea here
I think a) is probably the best battery life, but by far the least convenient, so really I'm trying to understand the differences/trade-offs for b&c (and open to learning if I've missed a better way (d).
thanks,
Mike

Theoretically, it should be "c" given the choices you present.
In practice however, I have found that k9mail is a bloated pig and dead slow. It might not use up much network in the imap idle, but the thing seems to have a constant and very ugly hit against the CPU.
Gmail push delivery is quite similar to using imap idle. There is some difference in the execution of push email delivery though... you will find that gmail only pushed the notifications and not the message itself. k9 actually pushes the message so that it would be available for reading offline.

lbcoder said:
Theoretically, it should be "c" given the choices you present.
In practice however, I have found that k9mail is a bloated pig and dead slow. It might not use up much network in the imap idle, but the thing seems to have a constant and very ugly hit against the CPU.
Gmail push delivery is quite similar to using imap idle. There is some difference in the execution of push email delivery though... you will find that gmail only pushed the notifications and not the message itself. k9 actually pushes the message so that it would be available for reading offline.
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Thanks for the info!
Is there a better IMAP client vs. K-9? (I found that it at least is much better than the stock mail proggy and haven't seen really any suggestions for alternatives for IMAP)
Is there an option d I should consider? (its my linux server at home.. I use fetchmail to collect/condense several email accts to one.. and can install other packages if there is something I should try)
thanks,
Mike

How about just forwarding everything to your gmail address?

lbcoder said:
How about just forwarding everything to your gmail address?
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Nah.. I like having everything on my home server.
I like Google, but don't need/want to have all my mail sitting there for them to parse.

zim2dive said:
Nah.. I like having everything on my home server.
I like Google, but don't need/want to have all my mail sitting there for them to parse.
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.... forwarding it does NOT mean that you are deleting it from your home server. You can have it in both places.

lbcoder said:
.... forwarding it does NOT mean that you are deleting it from your home server. You can have it in both places.
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Understood.. I just prefer to keep *any* company from having 100% of my personal life flowing thru their hands (I avoided having my contacts even uploaded into "the cloud" until I got this phone), so I'm looking for best battery practice methods that offer a fair compromise of email timeliness, battery life, and access my server (tho adding/upgrading my server to support some kind of better feature is certainly fair game.. its Ubuntu 9.10)
I don't wear tin foil hats I just detest spam... and (IMO) the best way to avoid spam is to keep control over your info.

I highly doubt that any of your emails are particularly secure. Unless you are certain that there is an SSL pipe all the way from your SMTP client through to the other guy's SMTP client, and that there is no windoze-anything anywhere along the lines, then it is trivial for anyone to read your emails.
With that, it would be *really* nice if they added public key encryption to the gmail application.... (not the gmail web service, but directly in the application).

lbcoder said:
Gmail push delivery is quite similar to using imap idle. There is some difference in the execution of push email delivery though... you will find that gmail only pushed the notifications and not the message itself. k9 actually pushes the message so that it would be available for reading offline.
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Sorry for regain an old post, but ive constant problem with gmail app.
I never can had notification from gmail when an emal arrives.
I flashed cyan5.07test5, set my gmail account to import hotmail messages, and enabled imap and pop3 via web interface.
I installed Gmail Notifier (free on the market) too.
I set "Automatic sincronization" and" background data" (sorry for wrong translation, i've an italian phone), but gmail never automatically synchronize new mails nor notify that. I can manually update only, and he're we go. Any help?

fl3xo said:
Sorry for regain an old post, but ive constant problem with gmail app.
I never can had notification from gmail when an emal arrives.
I flashed cyan5.07test5, set my gmail account to import hotmail messages, and enabled imap and pop3 via web interface.
I installed Gmail Notifier (free on the market) too.
I set "Automatic sincronization" and" background data" (sorry for wrong translation, i've an italian phone), but gmail never automatically synchronize new mails nor notify that. I can manually update only, and he're we go. Any help?
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This question is totally unrelated. I'll answer you here, but if you have further questions along the same line, you must start a new thread to address it, OK?
First off, gmail notifier should NOT be used, nor anything else that might interfere.
Second, gmail notifications go over gtalk on port 5228. I do notice some oddities re gtalk/5228 on CM507, but pushes seem to work (at least on t5 and for me...)
Ensure that you are signed in to gtalk service -- by running the "talk" application and signing in (and setting it to sign in automatically). This might help you.
POP and IMAP have nothing to do with this at all.
Something else you didn't mention is whether this problem you are experiencing is limited to the CM507 ROM, or if you've had it previously. This makes a big difference -- if it didn't work before, then you need to consider the possibility that your mobile data provider is interfering somehow. I know that Wind in Canada initially caused some trouble for google services on 5228, I don't know if it was perhaps related to a similar policy implemented elsewhere. We have since had a dialog with them and have had these kinds of issues eliminated.

wow lbcoder, you must be sick.
I didn't notice any sarcasm and you were polite.
lol

Sleeepy2 said:
wow lbcoder, you must be sick.
I didn't notice any sarcasm and you were polite.
lol
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Ah, BITE ME
(feel better now? )

lbcoder said:
Ah, BITE ME
(feel better now? )
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haha. much

lbcoder said:
This question is totally unrelated. I'll answer you here, but if you have further questions along the same line, you must start a new thread to address it, OK?
First off, gmail notifier should NOT be used, nor anything else that might interfere.
Second, gmail notifications go over gtalk on port 5228. I do notice some oddities re gtalk/5228 on CM507, but pushes seem to work (at least on t5 and for me...)
Ensure that you are signed in to gtalk service -- by running the "talk" application and signing in (and setting it to sign in automatically). This might help you.
POP and IMAP have nothing to do with this at all.
Something else you didn't mention is whether this problem you are experiencing is limited to the CM507 ROM, or if you've had it previously. This makes a big difference -- if it didn't work before, then you need to consider the possibility that your mobile data provider is interfering somehow. I know that Wind in Canada initially caused some trouble for google services on 5228, I don't know if it was perhaps related to a similar policy implemented elsewhere. We have since had a dialog with them and have had these kinds of issues eliminated.
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You always help, it was the gtalk service for some reason not initiated.
Ive tried with openssl a lot with no result.
Yes, lbcoder is real sarcastic BUT had always some special gear.
thx a lot

my hotmail account has been spamming people

Long story short i have my hotmail, along with other accounts setup in my evos email client, awhile back I noticed I sent myself an email about diet crap that I personaly did not send and so I dismissed it.
Well tonight I had over a hundred mailer daemon unable to reach address blah blah in my email inbox I check my sent box and sure enough my account has been mailing random people crap about diet stuff.
Anyways i heard Android has some exploits that could be leading to our phones being related in a exploit.
I changed my email password and it stopped doing this temporarily but it started right back up again after a while.
Can this be Related to my phone at all?
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It's probably not your phone.
It's far more likely that you (or someone else in your household) clicked something you shouldn't have on a website, and have a keylogger on your computer now.
Or if you're... Uneducated enough to be running an open WiFi network (or, even more facepalm-worthy, connected to one that doesn't belong to you, and mooching off it), then someone could be picking up your plaintext passwords.
But really, biggest chance is you've got some malware on your computer. Congrats!

Your biggest issue is that you are still using hotmail...

- Changed your hotmail password from a virus-free computer or your EVO's browser.
- Run AntiMalware and an antivirus on your computer.
- Switch to Gmail
Problem solved.

well, i know about wlan encryption and i use wpa2 personal, i also know how to crack wep
i also know about keystroke loggers, i do use them and know how to detect software versions of them
somehow my girlfriend somehow gets a copy forwarded to her of email i reply to, even though there is no trace of a setting for this anywhere that i can find, which i always found suspicious and it doesn't happen all the time. she could be spying or maybe its from when we tried to link our outlook calendars and something broke
i use hot-mail because until recently i have had zero problems and i created this hotmail account back in 2001 on my dream cast before i even knew how to turn on a pc, and now i run a computer repair shop, so it kinda has sentimental value, so i want to fix this, not throw it away. also i have many other email address for work and school purposes so email isn't nothing new to me.
last night i had my gf change my password on my hotmail account because i was on my evo and hotmail.com kept sending me to their mobile site and i couldn't see any settings for change password and she had her laptop in her lap. maybe her laptop is the culpti but i doubt it, i will check into it though.
today i changed my password to my hotmail on my work computer. i will allow my evo access to the new password for the sake of tying to figure out where the culprit is and only changing one thing at a time.
thanks for the replies i really was hoping to hear that someone has less then public information about hotmail email servers them selves being hacked. because i have friends with hotmail accounts that started spamming me not too long before my account starting spamming others.
i guess i'll use this thread to keep notes on this situation, but thanks for the replies

zeuzinn said:
- Changed your hotmail password from a virus-free computer or your EVO's browser.
- Run AntiMalware and an antivirus on your computer.
- Switch to Gmail
Problem solved.
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yep all I had to do was change my email on another SAFE PC and then I was good to go. But dont discount adware programes and all.
DL and run/update
Malware bytes, Super antispyware and update and load spyware blaster. You'll be good to go.

spybot/teatimer ftw

drmacinyasha said:
It's probably not your phone.
It's far more likely that you (or someone else in your household) clicked something you shouldn't have on a website, and have a keylogger on your computer now.
Or if you're... Uneducated enough to be running an open WiFi network (or, even more facepalm-worthy, connected to one that doesn't belong to you, and mooching off it), then someone could be picking up your plaintext passwords.
But really, biggest chance is you've got some malware on your computer. Congrats!
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Please don't be politically correct. :|
Stupid not uneducated. He says he knows all this, so uneducated wouldn't apply.
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Sorry, I'm very blunt. :|

Well my hotmail accounts were still spamming people, also my yahoo account started to join in on the fun.
I changed passwords on both accounts to something very lone Qiu no dictionary words and used numbers and symbols. And about a day later low and behold I am spamming people again.
Focusing in on my hotmail account, I can see the sent folder, in my web based GUI, I can see all these emails that my account has been sending.
I have probably have questionable apps on my phone so I thought I'd wipe my phone. Well, its been 4 days since I have had any problems.
While I can't confirm my suspecion, I can suggest as a possibility that my phone had something that was pulling my passwords and sending them out to someone or something that would inturn log into my accounts and spam away.
I don't have time to really look into this any more thoroughly but I thought I'd document my observations.
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potna said:
well my hotmail accounts were still spamming people, also my yahoo account started to join in on the fun.
I changed passwords on both accounts to something very lone qiu no dictionary words and used numbers and symbols. And about a day later low and behold i am spamming people again.
Focusing in on my hotmail account, i can see the sent folder, in my web based gui, i can see all these emails that my account has been sending.
I have probably have questionable apps on my phone so i thought i'd wipe my phone. Well, its been 4 days since i have had any problems.
While i can't confirm my suspecion, i can suggest as a possibility that my phone had something that was pulling my passwords and sending them out to someone or something that would inturn log into my accounts and spam away.
I don't have time to really look into this any more thoroughly but i thought i'd document my observations.
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STOP using pirated apps. That's my guess.

It was most likely an app that requests permissions to your contacts and email. There are a lot of shady apps out there and google needs to step up with this crap.
I always avoid them but it's ridiculous how many apps (themes and stupid stuff) request information.

Well surprise surprise, it was most likely an app I got from the market that was stealing my info. Not that I can confirm it, but most of the replies implied I was an idiot and that it couldn't possible be my phone. I eventualy got an email from Google saying I had installed something from the mArket that was infected.
So it was not that I'm stoopid ignorant, it wasnt that i was using hotmail, it wasnt that my pc was infected.
It was my phone all along.
Maybe there is a thread about this already, but I bet my topic.was created first and I thought I'd bring this thread to a conclusion.
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I hate to say it but if you downloaded an app that infected your device with malware you still are pretty stupid. Not trying to be an a**hole here but if you actually researched the app before downloading it you could have advoided it altogether. Common sense is still the best antivirus.
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This isn't malware on your phone. It's been a huge issue with hotmail for the past couple of weeks. People who use the same pass across multiple sites usually are the most vuln. Also happens when you get phished.

I have a friend thats has the same thing going on with his hotmail...hasn't been using it at all and all of a sudden I'm getting emails from him sending me links to increase my penis length...and god knows I don't need that..

I wouldnt dismiss it being non-phone related. I recently have been having it happen on my hotmail account as well and I have not logged into my hotmail account on a computer in years only have it on my phone to setup craigslist ads, Redbox rentals and small stuff like that and use gmail for important stuff. I dont have any Pirated apps or anything just normal stuff 12 or so games and 15 or so other market apps.

Same thing happened to my hotmail a while back. I changed my password and it solved the problem.
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alright guys stop calling the op stupid and learn ya something yourselves. Even legitimate apps were affected read the news every once in awhile and you would know. This is just one of the many articles on the topic.
http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml;jses...fVH2Mtw**?nid=20039881&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-83
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Last-Chance said:
This isn't malware on your phone. It's been a huge issue with hotmail for the past couple of weeks. People who use the same pass across multiple sites usually are the most vuln. Also happens when you get phished.
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Exactly, it happened with my hotmail account a few months ago, and I havent used my hotmail in months.
alright guys stop calling the op stupid and learn ya something yourselves. Even legitimate apps were affected read the news every once in awhile and you would know. This is just one of the many articles on the topic.
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Unless you login to hotmail from your phone's browser, there is no way one of these apps could get your hotmail info.

i swear, i dont know why i take peoples opinions so damn seriously around here...but for the sake of my sanity and the general level of competence of reading and having accurate postings with good conclusions here i go again.
there were a handful or legitimate applications on the market than were infected.
i already changed my email passwords and it ddint help
when i formatted/re flashed rom...it stopped
i later received some notification of some market tool that Google automatically installed and ran and "fixed the issue"
i received an email from Google telling me about a phone tied to my gmail account may have been infected, but i already solved my issue my self, so their fix didn't apply.
how the hell can you people some how twist this into "op is dumb, or stupid"?
now for a bit of my SPECULATION, and its only that, its not my opinion thrown at you as fact, as so many here love to do.
what are the odds that all of us android users just happen to have our email accounts hacked? whats the one thing all of us email user have in common on these boards....android. just saying
btw, more than just my hotmail account was hacked.
here are some urls that the idiots wont read, talking about what i have been trying to say
http://www.google.com/search?q=Droi...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

[Q] From desire to SGSII Happy but...

Hello I just switched from HTC Desire (very good phone) to the SGSII (Better)...
And i am quite happy with my desicion. I have only two things that are a problem right now.
1. I am missing the Sense Mail widgets.
2. GPS Inaccuracy.
So my questions are:
1. Mail widget...
I am looking for a mail widget that binds to a specific account. So i have 4 email accounts and i want to bind the widget to one of them.
So if I want to use all mail accounts I will have to place 4 widgeds and configure them for each maill account. And preferebly they should show the subject.
2. GPS inaccuracy in Navigon
I was driving a road and where my desire had pinpoint accuracy, the Sammy thought I was about 60 meters to the right, and started to bark all kind of instructions to get back to the road (where i already was on)....
So anybody can help me? (Need mail widget the most) the widgets from launcher pro are what i need but I wat to jump to the correct mail client (that shows the message as it should be) Launcher pro has it's own mail renderere and that's not what i want.

The GPS in SGS2 works very well for me, so that is not a general issue.
But maybe the circumstances were bad at the time, you can only compare with Desire if you had it with you at at the same time, because satellites are moving and weather is changing etc.
Did you have big buildings close to the roads? That can cause disturbances.
Do you have A-GPS enabled? (enable "use wireless networks" in Location settings menu).

Can you explain why you would not want to push all your different email accounts from where-ever to one Gmail account and only use that one?! There should be plenty of gmail widgets on the market.

buddy01 said:
Can you explain why you would not want to push all your different email accounts from where-ever to one Gmail account and only use that one?! There should be plenty of gmail widgets on the market.
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1. Hotmail is my privat email.
2. Exchange is corporate with required pin
3. Gmail = rubbish mail....
So I only want to be notified when I receive a Private or corporate mail....
and if i look, i want to see private or corporate depending on what I am doing.
Maybe I am a bit old, but i don't want a unified inbox. I want it organized as it was on my HTC.
I could do thi son my HTC without rooting and it worked like a charm....
I Really like the speed and screen of the SGII but i really do miss my Sense widgets...
I have spend a lot of money in the appstore opnly to get this functionality, I tried a lot, Pure Messenger widget and everything... Needed root, but could not read my exchange mail, uninstall and find the mail app broken, had to flash (now on KG2)
But a HTC has this functionality out of the box with no extra charge.....

How is Gmail rubbish when you can have all those corporate mail and hotmail and whatnot in there and they are not unified but you can access them separately via the gmail app? To me it seems that you are just stuck to 90's
Edit *i have my own business mail account there (own domain), my second work (work for another company) mail there (2 domains) and my personal gmail there. I also have multiple different email addresses from my own business there unified for a seperate account. All organised and working like a ****ing BOSS!

buddy01 said:
How is Gmail rubbish when you can have all those corporate mail and hotmail and whatnot in there and they are not unified but you can access them separately via the gmail app? To me it seems that you are just stuck to 90's
Edit *i have my own business mail account there (own domain), my second work (work for another company) mail there (2 domains) and my personal gmail there. I also have multiple different email addresses from my own business there unified for a seperate account. All organised and working like a ****ing BOSS!
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I think he meant that he uses his gmail acc as a spam account? for marketing emails,etc.

stoney73 said:
I think he meant that he uses his gmail acc as a spam account? for marketing emails,etc.
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Sucks to be him then.. like it takes 2 secs to setup account [email protected] and have all your work **** ([email protected], [email protected]) pushed there. HE can also answer with the original address etc etc. He just old fashioned and stuck on his ways, lol.

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Sucks to be him then.. like it takes 2 secs to setup account [email protected] and have all your work **** ([email protected], [email protected]) pushed there. HE can also answer with the original address etc etc. He just old fashioned and stuck on his ways, lol.
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Well are you telling me that it is possible to have google sync with exchange and get contacts mail, calender and all the good stuff and not have the lockstreen policy ?
I am not old fashioned, but I use hotmail for mail and google for searches.....
No need to give them all info......
But..... If it is possible to have google read my Excahnge account so i do not have that dumb policy enforced on my pone i would consider a switch.
And i guess you are telling me it's possible ?......

well0549 said:
Well are you telling me that it is possible to have google sync with exchange and get contacts mail, calender and all the good stuff and not have the lockstreen policy ?
I am not old fashioned, but I use hotmail for mail and google for searches.....
No need to give them all info......
But..... If it is possible to have google read my Excahnge account so i do not have that dumb policy enforced on my pone i would consider a switch.
And i guess you are telling me it's possible ?......
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There is an app called touchdown for exchange mail, works pretty well and you won't be enforced to set a pin to the lock screen. You just need to set a pin to open the app.
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I think you have to try Copilot Live navigator it's perfect for me...

kirdroid said:
There is an app called touchdown for exchange mail, works pretty well and you won't be enforced to set a pin to the lock screen. You just need to set a pin to open the app.
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Thanks for your help. Do you happen to know if that will work with pure messenger ?

buddy01 said:
Sucks to be him then.. like it takes 2 secs to setup account [email protected] and have all your work **** ([email protected], [email protected]) pushed there. HE can also answer with the original address etc etc. He just old fashioned and stuck on his ways, lol.
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Well........
Do i get my contacts, my calender and stuff also in g-calender, i have been looking a bit and i see no way to get an automated sync between our corporate Exchange Server and Gmail.....
Not everything is as simple as you think.... Oh wait..... for you it probably is..... (but that's probably due to a lack of processing power.....)
If I would give you 1% of my thoughts your brain would probably overload....
Now buddy, be a real budddy and show me how it's done...... ( and then i will say you were right and apologize ) otherwise, go and bother some other thread with that 1 brain cell of yours !

well0549 said:
Thanks for your help. Do you happen to know if that will work with pure messenger ?
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Its just for exchange email, it can sync your exchange calender, tasks and everything else exchange related.
I doesn't work as messenger, just email.
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kirdroid said:
Its just for exchange email, it can sync your exchange calender, tasks and everything else exchange related.
I doesn't work as messenger, just email.
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Thanks for your help !.
I tried it and I still could not read the Hotmails.....
So Installed KG2 firmware, rooted it, wiped etc.....
And now Pure messenger is able to read the default mail accounts so my problem is solved.
But thanks for your help anyway !

CM9 and issues with Exchange

I have seen on the CM9 thread that there are a few users who are having trouble with the stock apps syncing with Exchange.
I had the same issue after installing alpha 2 a few days ago. A little research let me to this article: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=22975
Basically, there are a number of Exchange configurations that the stock ICS clients simply are not compatible with right now. It may be as simple as the security requirements that your employer is trying to enforce, or in my case, the fact that my employer is running Exchange 2010sp1. Apparently sp2 is compatible.
In any case, this is an upstream Google issue, and is not specific to CM9. They are working on it.
I am using Moxier Mail in the interim.
And, yeah, I know I should have posted this in the thread, but I don't have enough posts yet.
-AH
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Glad to hear. Hope it gets fixed soon. My college's notification website pushes all notifications to our school email which uses exchange. Sadly I have to log in to my email to check for these rather then get them automatically on my phone.
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brooksyx said:
Glad to hear. Hope it gets fixed soon. My college's notification website pushes all notifications to our school email which uses exchange. Sadly I have to log in to my email to check for these rather then get them automatically on my phone.
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Can't you use POP or IMAP, so you don't have to log into the website?

No. MS Exchange Server is a completely different and much more secure protocol than POP or IMAP, and entities that use it do so precisely because they do not want their sensitive info going out on POP or IMAP. And, as Exchange offers true push, and several other features that go beyond the scope of just email, it has other advantages too.
And, while there usually is a website component available (Outlook Web Access) that's not what we are talking about here.
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Can't you use POP or IMAP, so you don't have to log into the website?
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what issues specifically are you having trouble syncing.

All. None of mystock android apps work with exchange.
My work uses Exhange 2010sp1 and there is a security requirement that android 4.0.x exchange services do not support. The issue is not present in sp2. I'm not an expert. This is what I have found out through my research, and have been told. My employer has no plans to implement sp2. Now why android 2.3 would work, and then they would leave out that compatibility in 4.0 is beyond me. And why the android team would still be working on it 4 months later without resolution is also beyond me.
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amateurhack said:
No. MS Exchange Server is a completely different and much more secure protocol than POP or IMAP, and entities that use it do so precisely because they do not want their sensitive info going out on POP or IMAP. And, as Exchange offers true push, and several other features that go beyond the scope of just email, it has other advantages too.
And, while there usually is a website component available (Outlook Web Access) that's not what we are talking about here.
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well, I wouldn't say exchange is any more or less secure (probably less) than IMAP (POP is dead) over SSL/TLS. Companies do it so that they can enable group policy on the data, you know, like being able to REMOTELY WIPE YOUR PHONE (without your appoval). really depends on the company. I work on the systems team for the production servers at our company, but I'm not part of the IT group facing our employees. We use Exchange. They know the guys in my group are not idiots, so they enable IMAP for our accounts at a special requrest from us. IMO, IMAP is far better than trying to screw around with Exchange/Outlook.
Though I do have a Windows VM that I use to accept meeting invites. *shakes fist*

I just gave up on exchange for now. It was eating through my battery and it would forget my credentials.
I am just having all of my exchange emails forward to my gmail for now.

Yes, in terms of the tranfer of data over ssl, there is little or no difference between exchange and imap, though I would bet that a lot of users don't have their imap account set up with ssl. For a lot of exchange users, ssl is required.
And yes, my employer wants to be able to remotely wipe my phone. I want them to be able to as well. They know, as do I, that some of the information on my phone is personal/private/confidential/sensitive/secure, so to them, and to me, the advantage of being able to remotely wipe my phone makes Exchange MUCH more secure than IMAP.
I guess it's all a matter of needs and perspective.
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well, I wouldn't say exchange is any more or less secure (probably less) than IMAP (POP is dead) over SSL/TLS. Companies do it so that they can enable group policy on the data, you know, like being able to REMOTELY WIPE YOUR PHONE (without your appoval). really depends on the company. I work on the systems team for the production servers at our company, but I'm not part of the IT group facing our employees. We use Exchange. They know the guys in my group are not idiots, so they enable IMAP for our accounts at a special requrest from us. IMO, IMAP is far better than trying to screw around with Exchange/Outlook.
Though I do have a Windows VM that I use to accept meeting invites. *shakes fist*
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I just realized I linked the wrong thread in hte OP. Here is the correct one:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=22975
I'll update the OP.

The email.apk and exchange.apk included with epiccm9's test build of android 4.0.4 have fixed my exchange sync issues.
Big props to whoever fixed this!
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Is the stock email app available in the Play Store?

I did not know the G6 does not come with the usual stock email app. I'm coming from an HTC One (M7). Does anybody know if the stock email app is available in the Play Store? If so, what developer name is it in? I don't like the Gmail app because it is so slow and don't sync properly. There are emails which don't get downloaded for whatever reason. I also tried the Microsoft Outlook. It's fast, but there is no way to prevent downloading of images used by spammers to know when an email gets opened by the target recipient.
TIA

sp_1st_timer said:
I did not know the G6 does not come with the usual stock email app. I'm coming from an HTC One (M7). Does anybody know if the stock email app is available in the Play Store? If so, what developer name is it in? I don't like the Gmail app because it is so slow and don't sync properly. There are emails which don't get downloaded for whatever reason. I also tried the Microsoft Outlook. It's fast, but there is no way to prevent downloading of images used by spammers to know when an email gets opened by the target recipient.
TIA
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There are enough alternatives, I prefer K9 as email app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9&hl=de

Edison -Email.
Best ive ever used.

basicreece said:
Edison -Email.
Best ive ever used.
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I see it offers unified inbox. How does it accomplish that? Does it pass your email through Edison's server?

dwasifar said:
I see it offers unified inbox. How does it accomplish that? Does it pass your email through Edison's server?
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No idea.
But it's fast, smooth and emails come through instantly.

dwasifar said:
I see it offers unified inbox. How does it accomplish that? Does it pass your email through Edison's server?
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Yes, gmail account seems to be accessed by some ip address from USA.

basicreece said:
No idea.
But it's fast, smooth and emails come through instantly.
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I've sent them an email asking.
Unfortunately it's not always easy to tell which email apps do that, and I don't really trust the ones that do. There are a lot of new ones cropping up that do, all supposedly from different developers and yet all coincidentally having the same pidgin English in their descriptions: "This application gives you to login for all your other accounts. The best feature is auto detect server, we will detect server of your all emails."
Not saying Edison is in that bunch; pretty obvious that they are legit, and I'm sure their service works very well. But still, I don't want all my emails and login credentials made available to an unvetted third party's server.
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simeoni said:
Yes, gmail account seems to be accessed by some ip address from USA.
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Does the IP resolve to an Amazon AWS instance or a Linode instance, by any chance?

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Does the IP resolve to an Amazon AWS instance or a Linode instance, by any chance?
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I didn't check because I uninstalled Edison email immediatly.

simeoni said:
I didn't check because I uninstalled Edison email immediatly.
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I imagine you changed your email login credentials right away, too. I've done the same thing with another service, BlueMail I think it was.

dwasifar said:
I imagine you changed your email login credentials right away, too. I've done the same thing with another service, BlueMail I think it was.
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No, I just removed access rights from Edison in https://myaccount.google.com/permissions

May I also recommend the BlackBerry Hub for email? I think it's one of the best email clients out there.

normally the g6 already has an original mail client app, at least on mine it is from the beginning (European model, without operator)
on the other hand it's the opposite, I do not like this application and I use gmail instead :angel:
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