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Exchang on Mytouch 3G

Just asking but if anyone has the Mytouch 3G from T-Mobile how would we set up Exchange Email?

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Alright so I figured some info out the box the current mytouch only has POP3 and IMAP emails at the moment hopefully we'll receive an OTA with a redesigned Email app that will support exchange. Maybe if we were to get the Email apk from those who have the Magic? If anyone has it I would be more than happy to put it on my phone to test it out.

a couple of apps to sync with MS exchange
there's currently a couple of applications that sync with MS exchange.
- Roadsync: Sync mail and contacts. Free app. It works ok, but is a free beta, and taking a look to their website, is easy to guess that in the future won't be free.
- Touchdown: Nice design. Syncs Calendar,contacts & mail but this one is not free. Just 5 days to try.
Both apps work with push mail.
Let's hope in future updates, Google changes his mind and include Exchange mail in the native mail app.
In my opinion, this is the weakest point of this device for a kind of enterprise user like i am.
For now, i think thats all we got

antguada said:
there's currently a couple of applications that sync with MS exchange.
- Roadsync: Sync mail and contacts. Free app. It works ok, but is a free beta, and taking a look to their website, is easy to guess that in the future won't be free.
- Touchdown: Nice design. Syncs Calendar,contacts & mail but this one is not free. Just 5 days to try.
Both apps work with push mail.
Let's hope in future updates, Google changes his mind and include Exchange mail in the native mail app.
In my opinion, this is the weakest point of this device for a kind of enterprise user like i am.
For now, i think thats all we got
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The thing is, with the myTouch, it specifically states on the box that it supports "work" email, assuming it will, on release, support Exchange.

Well it doesnt say it on the box, but online it does say it on the website. Im using touchdown but not wanting to pay $25 to get my work email. But I heard maybe if someone has the Magic email.apk It would work, ill try it if anyone has the apk please post and ill try it so we can see if the same email app will work on the Mytouch 3G.

antguada said:
there's currently a couple of applications that sync with MS exchange.
- Roadsync: Sync mail and contacts. Free app. It works ok, but is a free beta, and taking a look to their website, is easy to guess that in the future won't be free.
- Touchdown: Nice design. Syncs Calendar,contacts & mail but this one is not free. Just 5 days to try.
Both apps work with push mail.
Let's hope in future updates, Google changes his mind and include Exchange mail in the native mail app.
In my opinion, this is the weakest point of this device for a kind of enterprise user like i am.
For now, i think thats all we got
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HTC coded their own version of the exchange sync and included it on the HTC Magic's released in Asia. From what I hear, it is completely functional and should be on the ones released in the US as well. When someone identifies that they have it available, please post a small review of its use in the US. This is the only thing preventing me from going to the Android platform permanently.

Email... push (IMAP IDLE) or poll for best battery life?

I've been doing a lot of searching (push poll battery), and not finding much of a definitive answer on this.
Battery life, vs. email checking method... what impact does push (IMAP IDLE) have vs. polling.
And very possibly the answer varies depending on how often you would poll... ie. I could see that polling every 5 minutes uses more battery than push, but polling only once/hour would use less .. I'm not saying that;s the case, just saying maybe the answers are not so clear b/c its not an always-this or always-that answer.
It appears that the GMail app uses push. I don't really use Gmail for my mail.. I have a home server (linux box) that runs an IMAP server (and webmail), so I have multiple ways I can get my mail
a) over the web via browser
b) using K-9 to access my home IMAP via poll (let's say every 15 minutes)
c) using K-9 to access my home IMAP via IMAP IDLE (push)
d) insert other idea here
I think a) is probably the best battery life, but by far the least convenient, so really I'm trying to understand the differences/trade-offs for b&c (and open to learning if I've missed a better way (d).
thanks,
Mike

Theoretically, it should be "c" given the choices you present.
In practice however, I have found that k9mail is a bloated pig and dead slow. It might not use up much network in the imap idle, but the thing seems to have a constant and very ugly hit against the CPU.
Gmail push delivery is quite similar to using imap idle. There is some difference in the execution of push email delivery though... you will find that gmail only pushed the notifications and not the message itself. k9 actually pushes the message so that it would be available for reading offline.

lbcoder said:
Theoretically, it should be "c" given the choices you present.
In practice however, I have found that k9mail is a bloated pig and dead slow. It might not use up much network in the imap idle, but the thing seems to have a constant and very ugly hit against the CPU.
Gmail push delivery is quite similar to using imap idle. There is some difference in the execution of push email delivery though... you will find that gmail only pushed the notifications and not the message itself. k9 actually pushes the message so that it would be available for reading offline.
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Thanks for the info!
Is there a better IMAP client vs. K-9? (I found that it at least is much better than the stock mail proggy and haven't seen really any suggestions for alternatives for IMAP)
Is there an option d I should consider? (its my linux server at home.. I use fetchmail to collect/condense several email accts to one.. and can install other packages if there is something I should try)
thanks,
Mike

How about just forwarding everything to your gmail address?

lbcoder said:
How about just forwarding everything to your gmail address?
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Nah.. I like having everything on my home server.
I like Google, but don't need/want to have all my mail sitting there for them to parse.

zim2dive said:
Nah.. I like having everything on my home server.
I like Google, but don't need/want to have all my mail sitting there for them to parse.
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.... forwarding it does NOT mean that you are deleting it from your home server. You can have it in both places.

lbcoder said:
.... forwarding it does NOT mean that you are deleting it from your home server. You can have it in both places.
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Understood.. I just prefer to keep *any* company from having 100% of my personal life flowing thru their hands (I avoided having my contacts even uploaded into "the cloud" until I got this phone), so I'm looking for best battery practice methods that offer a fair compromise of email timeliness, battery life, and access my server (tho adding/upgrading my server to support some kind of better feature is certainly fair game.. its Ubuntu 9.10)
I don't wear tin foil hats I just detest spam... and (IMO) the best way to avoid spam is to keep control over your info.

I highly doubt that any of your emails are particularly secure. Unless you are certain that there is an SSL pipe all the way from your SMTP client through to the other guy's SMTP client, and that there is no windoze-anything anywhere along the lines, then it is trivial for anyone to read your emails.
With that, it would be *really* nice if they added public key encryption to the gmail application.... (not the gmail web service, but directly in the application).

lbcoder said:
Gmail push delivery is quite similar to using imap idle. There is some difference in the execution of push email delivery though... you will find that gmail only pushed the notifications and not the message itself. k9 actually pushes the message so that it would be available for reading offline.
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Sorry for regain an old post, but ive constant problem with gmail app.
I never can had notification from gmail when an emal arrives.
I flashed cyan5.07test5, set my gmail account to import hotmail messages, and enabled imap and pop3 via web interface.
I installed Gmail Notifier (free on the market) too.
I set "Automatic sincronization" and" background data" (sorry for wrong translation, i've an italian phone), but gmail never automatically synchronize new mails nor notify that. I can manually update only, and he're we go. Any help?

fl3xo said:
Sorry for regain an old post, but ive constant problem with gmail app.
I never can had notification from gmail when an emal arrives.
I flashed cyan5.07test5, set my gmail account to import hotmail messages, and enabled imap and pop3 via web interface.
I installed Gmail Notifier (free on the market) too.
I set "Automatic sincronization" and" background data" (sorry for wrong translation, i've an italian phone), but gmail never automatically synchronize new mails nor notify that. I can manually update only, and he're we go. Any help?
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This question is totally unrelated. I'll answer you here, but if you have further questions along the same line, you must start a new thread to address it, OK?
First off, gmail notifier should NOT be used, nor anything else that might interfere.
Second, gmail notifications go over gtalk on port 5228. I do notice some oddities re gtalk/5228 on CM507, but pushes seem to work (at least on t5 and for me...)
Ensure that you are signed in to gtalk service -- by running the "talk" application and signing in (and setting it to sign in automatically). This might help you.
POP and IMAP have nothing to do with this at all.
Something else you didn't mention is whether this problem you are experiencing is limited to the CM507 ROM, or if you've had it previously. This makes a big difference -- if it didn't work before, then you need to consider the possibility that your mobile data provider is interfering somehow. I know that Wind in Canada initially caused some trouble for google services on 5228, I don't know if it was perhaps related to a similar policy implemented elsewhere. We have since had a dialog with them and have had these kinds of issues eliminated.

wow lbcoder, you must be sick.
I didn't notice any sarcasm and you were polite.
lol

Sleeepy2 said:
wow lbcoder, you must be sick.
I didn't notice any sarcasm and you were polite.
lol
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Ah, BITE ME
(feel better now? )

lbcoder said:
Ah, BITE ME
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haha. much

lbcoder said:
This question is totally unrelated. I'll answer you here, but if you have further questions along the same line, you must start a new thread to address it, OK?
First off, gmail notifier should NOT be used, nor anything else that might interfere.
Second, gmail notifications go over gtalk on port 5228. I do notice some oddities re gtalk/5228 on CM507, but pushes seem to work (at least on t5 and for me...)
Ensure that you are signed in to gtalk service -- by running the "talk" application and signing in (and setting it to sign in automatically). This might help you.
POP and IMAP have nothing to do with this at all.
Something else you didn't mention is whether this problem you are experiencing is limited to the CM507 ROM, or if you've had it previously. This makes a big difference -- if it didn't work before, then you need to consider the possibility that your mobile data provider is interfering somehow. I know that Wind in Canada initially caused some trouble for google services on 5228, I don't know if it was perhaps related to a similar policy implemented elsewhere. We have since had a dialog with them and have had these kinds of issues eliminated.
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You always help, it was the gtalk service for some reason not initiated.
Ive tried with openssl a lot with no result.
Yes, lbcoder is real sarcastic BUT had always some special gear.
thx a lot

Exchange email security.

I tried to set up an account to my Exchange email at work using the default email app on my TF101. When I set up an account it requires that I enable all of these security settings on the tab like having a PIN and encrypting data. I don't want to do all of that. I realize that this is something set up by my Exchange administrator but I am not sure they even did it knowingly and anyway I don't want to have to deal with it to check email.
Does anyone know how to bypass this? Searches of these forums and the web show that there are some modded email apks for other platforms that let you bypass the security settings. I have not seen any such mods for ICS on the TF101.
Thanks in advance for your help.

Hello,
I do not believe the stock email is able to handle the security settings from an exchange server. You need to look at other programs like Moxier Mail or TouchDown.

+1 for touch down. Works great but it is $20

Enhanced email is another option. I got it from free app of the day by Amazon. At first, it did not work on android 3.0+, but it works fine now. It gives you the option to ignore security policies.
Alternatively, if you decompile the email.apk, I believe you can force a variable so that the email app always tells the exchange server you have sufficient security enabled (I'm not exactly sure where must be changed).

tonyz3 said:
+1 for touch down. Works great but it is $20
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I couldn't agree more. Do the trial first to see if you like it. I don't recommend bypassing the security. You can unknowingly pass a virus through your corporate exchange. Hopefully, one day, they will resolve this issue in the Android exchange client.

tonyz3 said:
+1 for touch down. Works great but it is $20
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+1... Touchdown. Forget any other Exchange apps.

+1 for Enhanced Email - optionally bypasses the admin security settings - works fine on Honeycomb and ICS too.

Exchange Admin
Hello,
When setting up exchange servers in the past, the default exchange policy is to have those features enabled. Even if those are DISABLED, the tablet will still ask to create the partnership. I believe this is so it can be wiped remotely. It seems ICS just tells you it is going to do all of those things as a generic warning. I have noticed this is only on ICS though. If you click ok, it shouldn't ask you to create a PIN or anything if it isn't actually required. We currently only have exchange 2010 in production in a test environment, so I have yet to look for the setting to disable this feature entirely. Hope this helps you understand how it works at least a little.

[WARNING] [Alert] samsung SPIES on us and READS our emails and passwords!

Warning for everyone who uses the Samsung applications for (at least) email!
If you use the Samsung email application then YOU JUST GAVE SAMSUNG your username(s) and password(s)!
How did I find out about this? Easy, and you can try it too if you know how to run an email server.
I run my own IMAP email server. So I configured email on the phone and then I synchronised my email.
Then I had a look on my server to see what my phone was doing.... and HOLY SHIITAKE! It wasn't my phone's IP address... it was Samsung's IP address195.124.9.34 which is eu025-egress-a.fra.samsungsocialhub.com.
That means your phone logs into Samsung's servers and Samsung's servers log into the email server.
Yes, I'm extremely worried by this. Just think about how many politicians, CEOs, sysadmins, and ordinary people use Samsung's email program! We know Google does this on their own servers but if you use a different IMAP or POP3 server for email then you wouldn't expect Samsung to read over your shoulder!
Is this even legal???​

What type of connection did you establish between your IMAP server and the phone? Do you have it set to periodic polling (check every few minutes) or have you set it to "push" mail of some sort.
If the latter one is the case, i believe there is no alternative to letting the samsung server check for new mail and send the notification to your phone when it arrives. Otherwise your phone would have to send/receive your IMAP info all the time and would be battery dead in no time.

brittonberkan said:
What type of connection did you establish between your IMAP server and the phone? Do you have it set to periodic polling (check every few minutes) or have you set it to "push" mail of some sort.
If the latter one is the case, i believe there is no alternative to letting the samsung server check for new mail and send the notification to your phone when it arrives. Otherwise your phone would have to send/receive your IMAP info all the time and would be battery dead in no time.
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It happened during a manual synchronisation. But even if it were periodic, IMAP has an IDLE command. My HTC One S can do this in exactly the same way without using HTC's servers. That is why this is so alarming. You never knew your password would be used by Samsung.

this is one of the most stupidest things i have ever read
whats so special if it goes through samsung's server
your emails are hosted on gmail servers does that mean google spies on us ? maybe maybe not

bluefa1con said:
this is one of the most stupidest things i have ever read
whats so special if it goes through samsung's server
your emails are hosted on gmail servers does that mean google spies on us ? maybe maybe not
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Third party knowing your password is a huge security problem.

Stop smoking so much hash
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Who actually cares
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This is stupid mate what a waste of thread...its not like you discovered america mr colombus. We all know our username and passworda are stored in email servers...how the heck are you excpected to log in and out of your email accounts ??
Close this off man...its a waste.
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drowsy1982 said:
This is stupid mate what a waste of thread...its not like you discovered america mr colombus. We all know our username and passworda are stored in email servers...how the heck are you excpected to log in and out of your email accounts ??
Close this off man...its a waste.
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bluefa1con said:
this is one of the most stupidest things i have ever read
whats so special if it goes through samsung's server
your emails are hosted on gmail servers does that mean google spies on us ? maybe maybe not
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Don't be so quick on that guys, he's pointing out a legitimate thing.
When you setup an IMAP Server yourself (like [email protected]) and you add it to an IMAP Mail client (like the "mail" app), there should be no reason to contact a third server which has nothing do to with your IMAP server (unless that server adds some functionality, like the push mail i suggested).
CORRECT METHOD
IMAP CLIENT (Has username/PW) --------> IMAP SERVER (any server, checks username/PW, sends mail to client)
SAMSUNGS MAIL METHOD
IMAP CLIENT (Has username/PW) -------> SAMSUNG SERVER (transmits username/PW) -----> IMAP Server (any server, checks username/PW, sends mail to client - or samsung?)
So, i think we should look into this. Not because i don't trust Samsung, but it's an unnecessary step which shouldn't be taken. And it hans over your credentials to a third party, usually without you knowing about it.

thanks for the effort mate.. lol!

brittonberkan said:
Don't be so quick on that guys, he's pointing out a legitimate thing.
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So, i think we should look into this. Not because i don't trust Samsung, but it's an unnecessary step which shouldn't be taken. And it hans over your credentials to a third party, usually without you knowing about it.
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Exactly. People can call me stupid or they can not give a sh* about their own privacy, but these are legitimate concerns. I don't care if people who work their boring job and don't have much self worth aren't able to see the worthyness of pointing out this issue, but it does not mean that there is no issue to begin with -- there is, really, there is.
Just imagine the following examples where only private (non-gmail, non-hotmail) servers are being used.
1) You work at Apple. You're a big shot. But you like android more, so you bought a Galaxy. You configure your corporate email account on it. You don't realise all emails, usernames and passwords are being sent via Samsung. The emails include corporate secrets, patents and so forth.
2) You're a Korean dissident emailing in secret using your Galaxy S2 on human rights abuses.
3) You're a Russian diplomat working together with North Korea.
3) You're a politician. You work in the EU on the Digital Rights Assembly.
4) You're a judge and work on copyright and patent cases.
Do I really need to point out the implications of any entity secretly reading these emails?

that should only happen if you use the advanced imap stuff, which i guess is samsung's way to do push for non-push enabled server types.

I really don't care..I'm not a spy or anything
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fatjivi said:
I really don't care..I'm not a spy or anything
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You really don't get it do you? I am saying you are being spied on!
Just pretend you would care: what would you do if you would care?

heldchen said:
that should only happen if you use the advanced imap stuff, which i guess is samsung's way to do push for non-push enabled server types.
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This happens for all servers, not only servers that don't support push.

Thank god i never used samsung email app. And also i never used any chinese app due to sevuriyy reasons.
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First: to all who say "what do I care, I'm not a spy, I've got nothing to hide" - you're the stupid sheep who give up your privacy and freedom, who don't care about your rights, who will happily accept invasive "security measures" which destroy people's private life, who will accept any government abuse in the name of "security". If you "don't care" that your email (and others) can be so easily snooped, I guess you will not complain when a bored hacker gets a copy of them and publishes them online, so everyone will see your medical records, your sex life details, your "innocent" flirting with the new secretary at work, etc. Sheep !
There, cooled off a bit now. Ah, and if you say "Google has my emails anyway": yes, they do, but that's a free service which you're paying with your personal details in order to get advertising. If you're holding private/sensitive information there, be wary.
@voidzero: have you tried capturing the traffic sent from the phone ? if you enable SSL for your IMAP server, it should at least trigger a warning about certs being wrong, IMHO. Use Maildroid in the mean time, much better than the Samsung client.

never had the time to check this but I was pretty sure that if not all but most of the 'traffic' that is in "your" phone is going through samsung or whatever the app you are running. Its a privacy issue and probably a serious one, thats why you should be carefull on what you use and post with your phone. The ppl who doesnt cares about their privacy, sooner or later they will release they were very wrong, when their information be used againt them.

It's probably Samsung's push servers.

I just sent an email stating "Samsung can suck my ****" and my Samsung TV exploded!
Coincidence? I think not.
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Google drops Exchange ActiveSync. What does it mean for Windows Phone?

Starting February 1st 2013, Windows Phone users won't be able to create full Gmail accounts on Windows Phone. Does Microsoft have a plan?
This afternoon Google has announced the discontinuation of their support of Exchange ActiveSync (EAS aka the standard for many who use email) after January 30th 2013. The question you may be wondering is, how does it affect Windows Phone?
More here from Windows Phone Central http://www.wpcentral.com/google-drops-exchange-activesync-what-s-it-mean-windows-phone
Is this going to affect you ? I sync email, contacts and calendar from google so will this be shut off to existing users who are already setup at the end of January ?
I don't really want to move all my gmail stuff which is work related to microsoft, and I also don't want to give up my 820 so this has thrown a spanner in the works for me.

This means:
1. If you already have your Gmail account set up as a Exchange ActiveSync account on February 1st, it will continue to work for you.
2. If you try to add a new Gmail account (or delete your existing one and try to re-add it, or get a new phone/device/tablet) after February 1st, you will no longer be able to connect it as an Exchange ActiveSync account, which means no tasks, calendar, and contacts.
3. Calendar sync has already been disabled, so if you try to add a Gmail account and sync your Calendar to your phone as of yesterday, it will no longer sync your Calendar.
4. You can still connect your Gmail e-mail using IMAP or POP3, so mail will continue to function after February 1st. Though you may have to recreate your account so that it works properly.
5. This affects any device that uses Exchange ActiveSync as a way to sync information through Google. So not just Windows Phone, but Microsoft Outlook, some older Nokia and Sony devices, other random devices/phones.

Ah thanks
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If you are using Google Apps and hosting a custom domain, nothing should change for you. As far as I know, even Calendar sync still works. However, Google Apps no longer offers a free version, that happened about two weeks ago, most likely in preparation for killing off EAS.

A few months ago this would have really irked me, but when I decided to try Outlook.com, it won me over. More importantly, thanks to Microsoft's free Live Domains hosting service, I've moved all my private, custom domains over to use Outlook.com as the default provider.
It's a safe bet that Microsoft will never discontinue support for Exchange Activesync, so I'm actually really happy. Plus, the deep integration with SkyDrive and other MS services means, simply enough, that I don't really give a **** what Google does anymore. I don't use their mediocre online office tools, nor their Drive service, nor their excellent but ultimately irrelevant in the face of Nokia, maps service. On top of that, the TubePro app for WP8 is far superior to the Google provided Youtube app on iOS or Android, so again, I'm not at all worried.
Windows phone 8 doesn't *need* Google.

jasongw said:
A few months ago this would have really irked me, but when I decided to try Outlook.com, it won me over. More importantly, thanks to Microsoft's free Live Domains hosting service, I've moved all my private, custom domains over to use Outlook.com as the default provider.
It's a safe bet that Microsoft will never discontinue support for Exchange Activesync, so I'm actually really happy. Plus, the deep integration with SkyDrive and other MS services means, simply enough, that I don't really give a **** what Google does anymore. I don't use their mediocre online office tools, nor their Drive service, nor their excellent but ultimately irrelevant in the face of Nokia, maps service. On top of that, the TubePro app for WP8 is far superior to the Google provided Youtube app on iOS or Android, so again, I'm not at all worried.
Windows phone 8 doesn't *need* Google.
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OOH, wow, I didn't know they offered that for free, I was about to buy an exchange email thru rackspace! Might have to give that a go.

jasongw said:
A few months ago this would have really irked me, but when I decided to try Outlook.com, it won me over. More importantly, thanks to Microsoft's free Live Domains hosting service, I've moved all my private, custom domains over to use Outlook.com as the default provider.
It's a safe bet that Microsoft will never discontinue support for Exchange Activesync, so I'm actually really happy. Plus, the deep integration with SkyDrive and other MS services means, simply enough, that I don't really give a **** what Google does anymore. I don't use their mediocre online office tools, nor their Drive service, nor their excellent but ultimately irrelevant in the face of Nokia, maps service. On top of that, the TubePro app for WP8 is far superior to the Google provided Youtube app on iOS or Android, so again, I'm not at all worried.
Windows phone 8 doesn't *need* Google.
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Could I please ask something about the Live Domains thing. What sort of control do you get on top of a normal Outlook.com account? Can you switch off ads like with a Google Apps account? I have a free Apps account right now and not sure whether to pay for it or move to an Outlook.com account and switch my domain over to Microsoft.

Http://domains.live.com to sign up.
What you get when you setup your domains for the Outlook.com servers, which is fairly simple (it involves proving domain ownership via DNS TXT record creation, and assigning new MX records to point to Microsoft's servers), is basic but robust. You can't turn off ads, but what you can do is create as many free email accounts as you want. Each is an official "Microsoft Account," which means of course that you get the same access to SkyDrive, office web apps, People (for contacts), Calendar, and so on, all wrapped in the sexy new UI. As the admin, you do have access to delete these user accounts, so ideally you won't be a **** to those you give accounts to .
If you want, you can also give away free email accounts on your domains. The first 500 are automatic and free, after that you have to ask them to up your limit, but it's still free (not sure if there's an upper limit, but it's something I'd like to test .
The Outlook.com UI of course offers gobs of advanced filtering options that are user manageable.
Screenshot of the main Control Panel UI attached. There are several more pages of options I didn't show because of course they have personal data, but suffice to say there are a fair few options. Plus, you can do co-branding if you want, which is slick in and of itself.
Now that I think of it...I need to set something up for that
The Jones said:
Could I please ask something about the Live Domains thing. What sort of control do you get on top of a normal Outlook.com account? Can you switch off ads like with a Google Apps account? I have a free Apps account right now and not sure whether to pay for it or move to an Outlook.com account and switch my domain over to Microsoft.
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Awesome reply. Thanks.
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Google will be removing Google sync support for WP. They called it "Winter Cleaning".
So Google contacts and Calender sync will not be available.
I say, if Google is rejecting WP, then Why doesn't Microsoft STOP Android OEMs from using Microsoft's PATENTS. Those Patents for which Android OEMs need to pay to Microsoft for every Android device they sale.
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Apourv said:
Google will be removing Google sync support for WP. They called it "Winter Cleaning".
So Google contacts and Calender sync will not be available.
I say, if Google is rejecting WP, then Why doesn't Microsoft STOP Android OEMs from using Microsoft's PATENTS. Those Patents for which Android OEMs need to pay to Microsoft for every Android device they sale.
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because that there is more income than all of windows phone

Win.
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Hate it when companies stop providing features just to push themselves and make other services/companies look bad.
Google's been a **** to Microsoft for a while now. Google pushes the abysmal mobile site that works on my ancient Nokia 5200, instead of the nice version to iOS and Android, to WinPhone7, the Youtube app is ridiculous, no maps. I bet Microsoft is a **** to Google too, but this whole thing sucks.
So then Microsoft goes around and doesn't give Google+ any love (Google+ is still trying to force me to use it, but I wont have any of it.)
Google's increasingly getting on my nerves and being more and more pushy, like a stalker. Reading my mail to push me ads, saving my searches to push me ads, it's just pissing me off. It's been consistently useless for all except domain name searching (For eg. if I want to find the official site for a product). Bing needs to up it's game so I can move to an alternative.
Apple is a master at this game too - they don't want to improve their touch APIs for WebKit, or make it open. They wont show any love to Microsoft's alternative touch API which even Chrome and Firefox people are supporting.

I'm trolling google everyday by using adblock.

Yeah, in 2013 ppl still don't know that such a tool exists...ffs

mcosmin222 said:
I'm trolling google everyday by using adblock.
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that's a big 10-4....
As far as "reading my email" goes, anyone that isn't encrypting their emails is fooling themselves if there is any belief it is private, at any point along the intraweeb.

To support google's ecosystem, which MS will have to if they want to be competitive, they will need to adopt CalDAV and CardDAV, which is no bad thing because it gives us consumers choice.
The days of pushing proprietary technologies are, thankfully, over.

But how are consumers affected by these kind of technologies? It is not as obvious as using WP over android, or the other way around.
Microsoft exchange is still used by the overwhelming majority of people on this planet. Pretty much every single email service, apart from the one provided by Google and some business specific emails, uses this system. Almost every single email user on the planet has another email address than google.
Google is just afraid of microsoft cutting their services, that's all.
As a email user of this planet, I could not care less what technology lies behind my email address. It could MS exchange, it could be google's new framework. I don't care. And why? because the end result is basically the same: I can check my email address.
On the other hand, dropping support of such services disrupts my ability to check my email from my WP, for example. Now what? I don't see any benefit from that, only more tiresome things to do. Will I see Windows Phone as the problem? Hell no!. Google will be my problem. Will I drop google services? very likely.
Just as a side-note, the only google service is use is their search, because bing is nowhere near as powerful in my region.

mcosmin222 said:
But how are consumers affected by these kind of technologies? It is not as obvious as using WP over android, or the other way around.
Microsoft exchange is still used by the overwhelming majority of people on this planet. Pretty much every single email service, apart from the one provided by Google and some business specific emails, uses this system. Almost every single email user on the planet has another email address than google.
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Eh, no. This is completely wrong. Exchange is but no means used by 'the overwhelming majority of people'. In business maybe, consumers no way.
Google have over 425 million users on gmail, Yahoo over 310 million and most people use either IMAP or POP3. Very, very few consumers are willing to pay for exchange.

uuh. You;re right, I was thinking about something else lol.
anyway
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To support google's ecosystem, which MS will have to if they want to be competitive, they will need to adopt CalDAV and CardDAV, which is no bad thing because it gives us consumers choice.
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How is this favoring the customers? My point is, if google is doing something to break what it is working, how will this be beneficial for users?