Google drops Exchange ActiveSync. What does it mean for Windows Phone? - Windows Phone 8 General

Starting February 1st 2013, Windows Phone users won't be able to create full Gmail accounts on Windows Phone. Does Microsoft have a plan?
This afternoon Google has announced the discontinuation of their support of Exchange ActiveSync (EAS aka the standard for many who use email) after January 30th 2013. The question you may be wondering is, how does it affect Windows Phone?
More here from Windows Phone Central http://www.wpcentral.com/google-drops-exchange-activesync-what-s-it-mean-windows-phone
Is this going to affect you ? I sync email, contacts and calendar from google so will this be shut off to existing users who are already setup at the end of January ?
I don't really want to move all my gmail stuff which is work related to microsoft, and I also don't want to give up my 820 so this has thrown a spanner in the works for me.

This means:
1. If you already have your Gmail account set up as a Exchange ActiveSync account on February 1st, it will continue to work for you.
2. If you try to add a new Gmail account (or delete your existing one and try to re-add it, or get a new phone/device/tablet) after February 1st, you will no longer be able to connect it as an Exchange ActiveSync account, which means no tasks, calendar, and contacts.
3. Calendar sync has already been disabled, so if you try to add a Gmail account and sync your Calendar to your phone as of yesterday, it will no longer sync your Calendar.
4. You can still connect your Gmail e-mail using IMAP or POP3, so mail will continue to function after February 1st. Though you may have to recreate your account so that it works properly.
5. This affects any device that uses Exchange ActiveSync as a way to sync information through Google. So not just Windows Phone, but Microsoft Outlook, some older Nokia and Sony devices, other random devices/phones.

Ah thanks
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If you are using Google Apps and hosting a custom domain, nothing should change for you. As far as I know, even Calendar sync still works. However, Google Apps no longer offers a free version, that happened about two weeks ago, most likely in preparation for killing off EAS.

A few months ago this would have really irked me, but when I decided to try Outlook.com, it won me over. More importantly, thanks to Microsoft's free Live Domains hosting service, I've moved all my private, custom domains over to use Outlook.com as the default provider.
It's a safe bet that Microsoft will never discontinue support for Exchange Activesync, so I'm actually really happy. Plus, the deep integration with SkyDrive and other MS services means, simply enough, that I don't really give a **** what Google does anymore. I don't use their mediocre online office tools, nor their Drive service, nor their excellent but ultimately irrelevant in the face of Nokia, maps service. On top of that, the TubePro app for WP8 is far superior to the Google provided Youtube app on iOS or Android, so again, I'm not at all worried.
Windows phone 8 doesn't *need* Google.

jasongw said:
A few months ago this would have really irked me, but when I decided to try Outlook.com, it won me over. More importantly, thanks to Microsoft's free Live Domains hosting service, I've moved all my private, custom domains over to use Outlook.com as the default provider.
It's a safe bet that Microsoft will never discontinue support for Exchange Activesync, so I'm actually really happy. Plus, the deep integration with SkyDrive and other MS services means, simply enough, that I don't really give a **** what Google does anymore. I don't use their mediocre online office tools, nor their Drive service, nor their excellent but ultimately irrelevant in the face of Nokia, maps service. On top of that, the TubePro app for WP8 is far superior to the Google provided Youtube app on iOS or Android, so again, I'm not at all worried.
Windows phone 8 doesn't *need* Google.
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OOH, wow, I didn't know they offered that for free, I was about to buy an exchange email thru rackspace! Might have to give that a go.

jasongw said:
A few months ago this would have really irked me, but when I decided to try Outlook.com, it won me over. More importantly, thanks to Microsoft's free Live Domains hosting service, I've moved all my private, custom domains over to use Outlook.com as the default provider.
It's a safe bet that Microsoft will never discontinue support for Exchange Activesync, so I'm actually really happy. Plus, the deep integration with SkyDrive and other MS services means, simply enough, that I don't really give a **** what Google does anymore. I don't use their mediocre online office tools, nor their Drive service, nor their excellent but ultimately irrelevant in the face of Nokia, maps service. On top of that, the TubePro app for WP8 is far superior to the Google provided Youtube app on iOS or Android, so again, I'm not at all worried.
Windows phone 8 doesn't *need* Google.
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Could I please ask something about the Live Domains thing. What sort of control do you get on top of a normal Outlook.com account? Can you switch off ads like with a Google Apps account? I have a free Apps account right now and not sure whether to pay for it or move to an Outlook.com account and switch my domain over to Microsoft.

Http://domains.live.com to sign up.
What you get when you setup your domains for the Outlook.com servers, which is fairly simple (it involves proving domain ownership via DNS TXT record creation, and assigning new MX records to point to Microsoft's servers), is basic but robust. You can't turn off ads, but what you can do is create as many free email accounts as you want. Each is an official "Microsoft Account," which means of course that you get the same access to SkyDrive, office web apps, People (for contacts), Calendar, and so on, all wrapped in the sexy new UI. As the admin, you do have access to delete these user accounts, so ideally you won't be a **** to those you give accounts to .
If you want, you can also give away free email accounts on your domains. The first 500 are automatic and free, after that you have to ask them to up your limit, but it's still free (not sure if there's an upper limit, but it's something I'd like to test .
The Outlook.com UI of course offers gobs of advanced filtering options that are user manageable.
Screenshot of the main Control Panel UI attached. There are several more pages of options I didn't show because of course they have personal data, but suffice to say there are a fair few options. Plus, you can do co-branding if you want, which is slick in and of itself.
Now that I think of it...I need to set something up for that
The Jones said:
Could I please ask something about the Live Domains thing. What sort of control do you get on top of a normal Outlook.com account? Can you switch off ads like with a Google Apps account? I have a free Apps account right now and not sure whether to pay for it or move to an Outlook.com account and switch my domain over to Microsoft.
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Awesome reply. Thanks.
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Google will be removing Google sync support for WP. They called it "Winter Cleaning".
So Google contacts and Calender sync will not be available.
I say, if Google is rejecting WP, then Why doesn't Microsoft STOP Android OEMs from using Microsoft's PATENTS. Those Patents for which Android OEMs need to pay to Microsoft for every Android device they sale.
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Apourv said:
Google will be removing Google sync support for WP. They called it "Winter Cleaning".
So Google contacts and Calender sync will not be available.
I say, if Google is rejecting WP, then Why doesn't Microsoft STOP Android OEMs from using Microsoft's PATENTS. Those Patents for which Android OEMs need to pay to Microsoft for every Android device they sale.
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because that there is more income than all of windows phone

Win.
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Hate it when companies stop providing features just to push themselves and make other services/companies look bad.
Google's been a **** to Microsoft for a while now. Google pushes the abysmal mobile site that works on my ancient Nokia 5200, instead of the nice version to iOS and Android, to WinPhone7, the Youtube app is ridiculous, no maps. I bet Microsoft is a **** to Google too, but this whole thing sucks.
So then Microsoft goes around and doesn't give Google+ any love (Google+ is still trying to force me to use it, but I wont have any of it.)
Google's increasingly getting on my nerves and being more and more pushy, like a stalker. Reading my mail to push me ads, saving my searches to push me ads, it's just pissing me off. It's been consistently useless for all except domain name searching (For eg. if I want to find the official site for a product). Bing needs to up it's game so I can move to an alternative.
Apple is a master at this game too - they don't want to improve their touch APIs for WebKit, or make it open. They wont show any love to Microsoft's alternative touch API which even Chrome and Firefox people are supporting.

I'm trolling google everyday by using adblock.

Yeah, in 2013 ppl still don't know that such a tool exists...ffs

mcosmin222 said:
I'm trolling google everyday by using adblock.
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that's a big 10-4....
As far as "reading my email" goes, anyone that isn't encrypting their emails is fooling themselves if there is any belief it is private, at any point along the intraweeb.

To support google's ecosystem, which MS will have to if they want to be competitive, they will need to adopt CalDAV and CardDAV, which is no bad thing because it gives us consumers choice.
The days of pushing proprietary technologies are, thankfully, over.

But how are consumers affected by these kind of technologies? It is not as obvious as using WP over android, or the other way around.
Microsoft exchange is still used by the overwhelming majority of people on this planet. Pretty much every single email service, apart from the one provided by Google and some business specific emails, uses this system. Almost every single email user on the planet has another email address than google.
Google is just afraid of microsoft cutting their services, that's all.
As a email user of this planet, I could not care less what technology lies behind my email address. It could MS exchange, it could be google's new framework. I don't care. And why? because the end result is basically the same: I can check my email address.
On the other hand, dropping support of such services disrupts my ability to check my email from my WP, for example. Now what? I don't see any benefit from that, only more tiresome things to do. Will I see Windows Phone as the problem? Hell no!. Google will be my problem. Will I drop google services? very likely.
Just as a side-note, the only google service is use is their search, because bing is nowhere near as powerful in my region.

mcosmin222 said:
But how are consumers affected by these kind of technologies? It is not as obvious as using WP over android, or the other way around.
Microsoft exchange is still used by the overwhelming majority of people on this planet. Pretty much every single email service, apart from the one provided by Google and some business specific emails, uses this system. Almost every single email user on the planet has another email address than google.
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Eh, no. This is completely wrong. Exchange is but no means used by 'the overwhelming majority of people'. In business maybe, consumers no way.
Google have over 425 million users on gmail, Yahoo over 310 million and most people use either IMAP or POP3. Very, very few consumers are willing to pay for exchange.

uuh. You;re right, I was thinking about something else lol.
anyway
You said...
To support google's ecosystem, which MS will have to if they want to be competitive, they will need to adopt CalDAV and CardDAV, which is no bad thing because it gives us consumers choice.
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How is this favoring the customers? My point is, if google is doing something to break what it is working, how will this be beneficial for users?

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Exchang on Mytouch 3G

Just asking but if anyone has the Mytouch 3G from T-Mobile how would we set up Exchange Email?
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Alright so I figured some info out the box the current mytouch only has POP3 and IMAP emails at the moment hopefully we'll receive an OTA with a redesigned Email app that will support exchange. Maybe if we were to get the Email apk from those who have the Magic? If anyone has it I would be more than happy to put it on my phone to test it out.
a couple of apps to sync with MS exchange
there's currently a couple of applications that sync with MS exchange.
- Roadsync: Sync mail and contacts. Free app. It works ok, but is a free beta, and taking a look to their website, is easy to guess that in the future won't be free.
- Touchdown: Nice design. Syncs Calendar,contacts & mail but this one is not free. Just 5 days to try.
Both apps work with push mail.
Let's hope in future updates, Google changes his mind and include Exchange mail in the native mail app.
In my opinion, this is the weakest point of this device for a kind of enterprise user like i am.
For now, i think thats all we got
antguada said:
there's currently a couple of applications that sync with MS exchange.
- Roadsync: Sync mail and contacts. Free app. It works ok, but is a free beta, and taking a look to their website, is easy to guess that in the future won't be free.
- Touchdown: Nice design. Syncs Calendar,contacts & mail but this one is not free. Just 5 days to try.
Both apps work with push mail.
Let's hope in future updates, Google changes his mind and include Exchange mail in the native mail app.
In my opinion, this is the weakest point of this device for a kind of enterprise user like i am.
For now, i think thats all we got
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The thing is, with the myTouch, it specifically states on the box that it supports "work" email, assuming it will, on release, support Exchange.
Well it doesnt say it on the box, but online it does say it on the website. Im using touchdown but not wanting to pay $25 to get my work email. But I heard maybe if someone has the Magic email.apk It would work, ill try it if anyone has the apk please post and ill try it so we can see if the same email app will work on the Mytouch 3G.
antguada said:
there's currently a couple of applications that sync with MS exchange.
- Roadsync: Sync mail and contacts. Free app. It works ok, but is a free beta, and taking a look to their website, is easy to guess that in the future won't be free.
- Touchdown: Nice design. Syncs Calendar,contacts & mail but this one is not free. Just 5 days to try.
Both apps work with push mail.
Let's hope in future updates, Google changes his mind and include Exchange mail in the native mail app.
In my opinion, this is the weakest point of this device for a kind of enterprise user like i am.
For now, i think thats all we got
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HTC coded their own version of the exchange sync and included it on the HTC Magic's released in Asia. From what I hear, it is completely functional and should be on the ones released in the US as well. When someone identifies that they have it available, please post a small review of its use in the US. This is the only thing preventing me from going to the Android platform permanently.

Google targets Facebook Contact info

Google just launched an enormous volley in the war of the data kings. Facebook and Google have been gearing up for war for a long time now, and Facebook’s alliance with Microsoft and Bing was practically an act of war. Now, Google is fighting back, albeit subtly. They changed their terms of service ever so slightly, but in a way that hurts Facebook in a big way.
According to TechCrunch, the ToS now requires reciprocity for anyone using the Google Contacts API to grab contact information from Google users. This means that whenever Facebook uses a Google API call to get contact data from a Google account, which is exactly what happens when new users are asked if they want to import their contact data from Google, Facebook will be required to give the user’s Facebook contact information back to Google. Facebook has never given their contact information out, and it’s highly unlikely that they will all of a sudden change this practice. It also affects the entire Google portion of their vaunted Open Graph, restricting a lot of information from Facebook’s data mining operation.
The only other option for Facebook at this point is to take away the Google importing functionality and hope for the best. Somehow, though, the idea of the biggest social network in the world backing off so easily doesn’t seem likely. It will be interesting to see what happens if they lawyer up and argue the legality of the new reciprocity clause.
In a statement, a Google spokesperson highlighted that this isn’t a greedy push for data.
It’s important that when we automate the transfer of contacts to another service, users have some certainty that the new service meets a baseline standard of data portability. We hope that reciprocity will be an important step towards creating a world of true data liberation–and that this move will encourage other websites to allow users to automate the export of their contacts as well.
It sounds less like a greedy grab for data, and more like an attempt to enforce an open data portability standard on the web, but neither one will sit well with many companies using the Contacts API. Facebook would rather have control over potentially sensitive information, and release it to select contractual partners, than start adopting Google’s open data portability standard. Google is sacrificing a level of openness to enforce open standards on other companies, but this is first and foremost a move on Facebook, and you can bet Facebook won’t take it lightly.
http://techcrunch.com/2010/11/04/facebook-google-contacts/
what will this mean for us people who import contact info from facebook
I want to know what the fu(k this actually means. Since we can link Facebook contacts with our Google contacts. I hope this doesn't lead to Facebook leaving android.
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google and facebook contact sync'ing
How does facebook allow you to collect contacts and save them off to say your PC.. sure you can sync your phone with limits but you are not able to say export them to Outlook.
If you I have been looking for the last few months.

Google TOS & Data Privacy

I have a question about data privacy while using Android and/or any Google service or application. My concern was prompted after installing Google Sky last night and seeing their warning about data collection when starting up.
As a marketing professional, I don't particularly care that Google gathers anonymous data such as browsing history and so on to improve their products and services. They're a business providing employment to others, paying taxes, and contributing to our economy therefore they have both a right to, and deserve to, profit from that. But I do have a very large concern over my privacy where personalized information is concerned.
In particular, I'm talking about whether or not Google has access to my contact, calendar, email, or documents data either on the phone, or especially when synchronizing to their servers. My worry is that Google might be 'snooping' around to see my personal information.
Are my fears unfounded? Do any of you know how the OS and their services are working?
Google will gather all the data it can, including emails and contacts, from your phone, browser, chrome os or any other google product you use. Didn't you read news? Google was even sniffering all traffic from open WI-FI networks.
We can hope that this data is gathered anonymously, but I don't think so. Good thing is that me and you are not interesting to google, so they will collect data, but only use it for targeting advertisement etc.
I guess this is a strong argument for staying with WM, WP7 or even iPhone. Privacy is one of our most valuable assets, and should be protected.
BillTheCat said:
I guess this is a strong argument for staying with WM, WP7 or even iPhone. Privacy is one of our most valuable assets, and should be protected.
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No, WP7 would send all your data to Microsoft as it's all in a cloud. Dunno about iPhone, but probably same, Apple would get everything. And even if you won't be using a phone, goverment is still watching you.
So forget about it and use Android.
Hence why Im not moving to Android yet. I still just want a solution to sync my tasks, calendars at a local level, aka Outlook. Lawl.
The best way for a company to check for trends and how their product is used isn't by creating polls or questionaires of some sort. They almost all, whenever possible, use automatic and passive mechanisms. Yes, google does parse my whole mail. I remember having received a email from my collegue principal and on the ad side of Gmail reading an about about "Tired of putting up with your boss". Facebook does the same think, like many other. Thing is, would you rather have free stuff WITH custom tailored publicity or paying for something to be completly free? Google earns with publicity, and since you are in the marketing area you know better than I that trends are everything. They're just trying to make the best (for their own purposes) of us using their tech. Is it creepy? Yes it is... Will it get worse? You betcha... Just check Google's or Facebook's TOS. Google looks like an angel next to facebook's...

CM9 and issues with Exchange

I have seen on the CM9 thread that there are a few users who are having trouble with the stock apps syncing with Exchange.
I had the same issue after installing alpha 2 a few days ago. A little research let me to this article: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=22975
Basically, there are a number of Exchange configurations that the stock ICS clients simply are not compatible with right now. It may be as simple as the security requirements that your employer is trying to enforce, or in my case, the fact that my employer is running Exchange 2010sp1. Apparently sp2 is compatible.
In any case, this is an upstream Google issue, and is not specific to CM9. They are working on it.
I am using Moxier Mail in the interim.
And, yeah, I know I should have posted this in the thread, but I don't have enough posts yet.
-AH
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Glad to hear. Hope it gets fixed soon. My college's notification website pushes all notifications to our school email which uses exchange. Sadly I have to log in to my email to check for these rather then get them automatically on my phone.
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brooksyx said:
Glad to hear. Hope it gets fixed soon. My college's notification website pushes all notifications to our school email which uses exchange. Sadly I have to log in to my email to check for these rather then get them automatically on my phone.
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Can't you use POP or IMAP, so you don't have to log into the website?
No. MS Exchange Server is a completely different and much more secure protocol than POP or IMAP, and entities that use it do so precisely because they do not want their sensitive info going out on POP or IMAP. And, as Exchange offers true push, and several other features that go beyond the scope of just email, it has other advantages too.
And, while there usually is a website component available (Outlook Web Access) that's not what we are talking about here.
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Can't you use POP or IMAP, so you don't have to log into the website?
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what issues specifically are you having trouble syncing.
All. None of mystock android apps work with exchange.
My work uses Exhange 2010sp1 and there is a security requirement that android 4.0.x exchange services do not support. The issue is not present in sp2. I'm not an expert. This is what I have found out through my research, and have been told. My employer has no plans to implement sp2. Now why android 2.3 would work, and then they would leave out that compatibility in 4.0 is beyond me. And why the android team would still be working on it 4 months later without resolution is also beyond me.
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No. MS Exchange Server is a completely different and much more secure protocol than POP or IMAP, and entities that use it do so precisely because they do not want their sensitive info going out on POP or IMAP. And, as Exchange offers true push, and several other features that go beyond the scope of just email, it has other advantages too.
And, while there usually is a website component available (Outlook Web Access) that's not what we are talking about here.
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well, I wouldn't say exchange is any more or less secure (probably less) than IMAP (POP is dead) over SSL/TLS. Companies do it so that they can enable group policy on the data, you know, like being able to REMOTELY WIPE YOUR PHONE (without your appoval). really depends on the company. I work on the systems team for the production servers at our company, but I'm not part of the IT group facing our employees. We use Exchange. They know the guys in my group are not idiots, so they enable IMAP for our accounts at a special requrest from us. IMO, IMAP is far better than trying to screw around with Exchange/Outlook.
Though I do have a Windows VM that I use to accept meeting invites. *shakes fist*
I just gave up on exchange for now. It was eating through my battery and it would forget my credentials.
I am just having all of my exchange emails forward to my gmail for now.
Yes, in terms of the tranfer of data over ssl, there is little or no difference between exchange and imap, though I would bet that a lot of users don't have their imap account set up with ssl. For a lot of exchange users, ssl is required.
And yes, my employer wants to be able to remotely wipe my phone. I want them to be able to as well. They know, as do I, that some of the information on my phone is personal/private/confidential/sensitive/secure, so to them, and to me, the advantage of being able to remotely wipe my phone makes Exchange MUCH more secure than IMAP.
I guess it's all a matter of needs and perspective.
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well, I wouldn't say exchange is any more or less secure (probably less) than IMAP (POP is dead) over SSL/TLS. Companies do it so that they can enable group policy on the data, you know, like being able to REMOTELY WIPE YOUR PHONE (without your appoval). really depends on the company. I work on the systems team for the production servers at our company, but I'm not part of the IT group facing our employees. We use Exchange. They know the guys in my group are not idiots, so they enable IMAP for our accounts at a special requrest from us. IMO, IMAP is far better than trying to screw around with Exchange/Outlook.
Though I do have a Windows VM that I use to accept meeting invites. *shakes fist*
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I just realized I linked the wrong thread in hte OP. Here is the correct one:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=22975
I'll update the OP.
The email.apk and exchange.apk included with epiccm9's test build of android 4.0.4 have fixed my exchange sync issues.
Big props to whoever fixed this!
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Android/WP8 apps availability list

Hi guys!
I am a happy android user on a galaxy nexus. I was waiting for the nexus 4 but I live in Italy and it is going to sell for about 600€ versus the 350$ so I'm pretty disappointed. I started looking around and I'm curious about the new WP8 and, especially, the Lumia 920. I haven't had a Nokia in ages!
The deal breaker is the app eco system.
I am a big Google services user and have understood that there is total sync capability while I m still undecided on the app part.
Is there a site with a list where I can find the most common apps or app categories on android and see if there is a counter part in wp 8?
My last resort would be going on the windows market place and just look around.
Thank you!
PS I searched in the forum but wasn't able to find anything very specific
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The best thing to do is search the marketplace yourself. You will find apps for almost everything you do on android, except those rendered useless by the system (in WP, system apps are actually doing a pretty damn good job and do not require replacement from the marketplace), but they are likely under different names, so a list would be very difficult and pointless to compile.
I switched from Android to Windows Phone 8 and i have everything i used on Android. Sure i miss some apps, like PowerAMP; Google+, a good Facebook App and a AD Blocker app. But i can life without them. There are some apps as well which sucks like WhatsApp, but i guess WhatsApp is goin to fix that soon.
What are your favorite apps on Android ?
I consider essential apps like
Google reader,
adobe reader,
kindle,
evernote,
medscape,
epocrates,
Dropbox,
whatsapp (I barely eve use SMS'),
And of course Google maps
I'm a doctor so I use a lot of medical apps but seeing the shortage on android vs iOS I bell believe wp8 only to be worse...
I have to ask what is the point of using Evernote as in Windows environment you have OneNote? You sync your OneNotes automatically to your Outlook (or Live/Hotmail) account and can sync to desktop.
Well, first of all I don't have a Microsoft environment (I have a Mac, galaxy nexus, iPad and nexus 7!) and second I have never had a windows phone so I really don't know how all the syncing works!
Since I work on different platforms I use drop box for documents and evernote for notes and everything is always perfectly synced!
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I consider essential apps like
Google reader,
adobe reader,
kindle,
evernote,
medscape,
epocrates,
Dropbox,
whatsapp (I barely eve use SMS'),
And of course Google maps
I'm a doctor so I use a lot of medical apps but seeing the shortage on android vs iOS I bell believe wp8 only to be worse...
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Not sure what Google reader does, but it is not needed.
Adobe reader is present
Kindle is present
Evernote is present, although you have one note.
Drop box is present (although you have skydrive)
whatsapp is not needed
Google maps is not needed (you have offline maps: nokia maps)
As for other medical apps, i am not entirely sure what kind of medical apps you would expect to have, but there's plenty of WP ones.
Even if you use a MAC< getting a Microsoft account and using hotmail/outlook is easy(you only need a browser).
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Not sure what Google reader does, but it is not needed.
Adobe reader is present
Kindle is present
Evernote is present, although you have one note.
Drop box is present (although you have skydrive)
whatsapp is not needed
Google maps is not needed (you have offline maps: nokia maps)
As for other medical apps, i am not entirely sure what kind of medical apps you would expect to have, but there's plenty of WP ones.
Even if you use a MAC< getting a Microsoft account and using hotmail/outlook is easy(you only need a browser).
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Why do say that whatsapp is not needed?
Google reader is a RSS feed app
I already have a hotmail account, I just prefer to use less accounts possible (I know, I can filter and forward messages!)
I prefer Dropbox because all my friends and colleagues have it so it is just easier to handle files.
Off topic: just went to see a Lumia 920 and it looks really nice!
I think "WhatsApp not needed" is a typo. WP has WhatsApp and they are about to update it too.
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WP is like Android. MS wants you to have Outlook/Hotmail/Live email address to access marketplace etc. So you need to have the account. You dont need to sync the emails to your phone if you dont want. Also you use that account to connect with Twitter and Facebook chat. With that account you get SkyDrive space of I think 7gb for free (I got it upgraded to 25gb for free, but that offer is not valid anymore)
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Why do say that whatsapp is not needed?
Google reader is a RSS feed app
I already have a hotmail account, I just prefer to use less accounts possible (I know, I can filter and forward messages!)
I prefer Dropbox because all my friends and colleagues have it so it is just easier to handle files.
Off topic: just went to see a Lumia 920 and it looks really nice!
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Dropbox is present and accounted for.
As for RSS feed apps, you have plenty. Google is not really active in Windows Phone area, as they will do everything to undermine the platform.
As for using accounts, Windows Phone has a very clean way of managing accounts. Just add them one by one, and you get different apps for each one of them, they are all nicely filtered and stuff like that. You can easily make a hotmail account for the marketplace and keep using your old accounts for the rest of the things you do.
ATM i have 3 accounts attached to my lumia 800: My "marketplace" account which happens to be my main email address, my developer account, under which i publish apps, and some yahoo email for family members. They are all working nicely.
@OP that's kind of a hard question. The apps depends on each user. Some people don't use any while others depend on very specific apps.
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Is there any good app that plays AVI or MKV files? for Android, there's MX player is there an equivalent app for W8?
I use Nextgen Reader for the Google reader app. Works better than the Google app on Android imo.
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Is there any good app that plays AVI or MKV files? for Android, there's MX player is there an equivalent app for W8?
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So far, there are no apps that let you play alternative formats/containers.
Regarding the OP: I can't find any medical apps on the marketplace, I'm sorry
You need a Microsoft account but you do not need another hotmail account. My Microsoft account is my corporate email address.
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shield001 said:
You need a Microsoft account but you do not need another hotmail account. My Microsoft account is my corporate email address.
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What, are you saying I could use my o365 account? I dont think so but please say Im wring here. My o365 account is configured so that my address is [email protected].
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What, are you saying I could use my o365 account? I dont think so but please say Im wring here. My o365 account is configured so that my address is [email protected].
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You can definitely use your O365 account for e-mail, etc.; if you also have a Microsoft Account (a.k.a. .Net Passport/Windows Live/other names it's gone by in the past) set up using that same e-mail address, you can use it as your main account that's tied to the Store, etc. to buy apps and whatnot. I was doing exactly that for a while ([email protected] hosted on Office365 and also tied in as a Microsoft Account). I'm no longer using Office365 to host that e-mail (just moved it to outlook.com for free since it's a personal account), but it's still my Microsoft Account. It all ties together nicely with whatever combination of accounts you use.
I was just looking at the app list for wp8 and its getting better.
mrc87 said:
I consider essential apps like
Google reader,
adobe reader,
kindle,
evernote,
medscape,
epocrates,
Dropbox,
whatsapp (I barely eve use SMS'),
And of course Google maps
I'm a doctor so I use a lot of medical apps but seeing the shortage on android vs iOS I bell believe wp8 only to be worse...
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Being a 4th year pharmacy student I can answer your medical application questions. There is no epocrates, medscape, lexicomp, clinical pharmacology, etc...
But there is a PubMed Mobile not made by them as far as I can tell. Just shows you search results and then when you click one it takes you to the website. Found an application called Drugs&Medications it's a dollar and tells you facts about drugs (company, dosage form, common indications, and links you to the FDA website didn't buy it so can't fact check it).
That being said I found some applications from http://www.unboundmedicine.com/products/windows_phone/ on the store.
So yes you're right it is worse. I've already accepted that I'll have to switch to an iPhone for my rotations lol.
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You can definitely use your O365 account for e-mail, etc.; if you also have a Microsoft Account (a.k.a. .Net Passport/Windows Live/other names it's gone by in the past) set up using that same e-mail address, you can use it as your main account that's tied to the Store, etc. to buy apps and whatnot. I was doing exactly that for a while ([email protected] hosted on Office365 and also tied in as a Microsoft Account). I'm no longer using Office365 to host that e-mail (just moved it to outlook.com for free since it's a personal account), but it's still my Microsoft Account. It all ties together nicely with whatever combination of accounts you use.
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Anyway if you could tie marketplace to o365 account, you still need Live (Hotmail or Outlook etc) to connect with Facebook chat and twitter. It is still best to have the Live account as main account and other accounts like o365 secondary.

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