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As we are an international community here I'd like to use the "collective brain" of this forum to get a screenshot of the HSDPA roadmaps of mobile operators worldwide.
So I'd like to ask everybody herewith to contribute on the HSDPA plans of the operators in your home countries.
To start this thread here the status within Austria:
Country: Austria - AT
Operator: Mobilkom Austria
Launch of HSDPA: now
Device promoted: Vodafone Mobile Connect Card
Special Price Plans: no
Data Price Plans: yes (e.g. 500MB for EUR 29)
Sounds like you on of the first in the west to get it. South Africa (Vodacom) will launch on 2 April 2006.
I am currently in Israel, and as far as I understand from the media - Orange Israel (one of the local GSM providers), has announced that HSDPA is currently operated by them.
In Germany both T-Mobile and vodafone offer HSDPA since CeBIT, and seem to also offer a PC card for it.
USA
USA has HSPDA however it is tuned to the 1900mhz band so it doesn't work
SPAIN
What is HSPDA¿
hspda
hspda is a next gen of 3g that will eventually support high bandwidth however they are diffrent technologies and hspda in the usa runs on the 1900mhz band. These are both UTMS.
Does anyone know if the nexus one will work on european 3g networks?
http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/google-nexus-one-specs-leaked-sales-by-invitation-only there is a spreadsheet with the baseband versions and if i compare this to my htc hero where it says hsdpa 900MHZ and 2100MHZ then it looks like that the hero will work on europe 3g? because it uses 900, 2100 +aws which is t-mobile usa?
looks like the n1 supports the UMTS band I (2100)
nearly every telco uses this band in europe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UMTS_networks
yes you can use 3g in europe
Yeah it should Work like mentioned above.
3 United Kingdom
T-Mobile United Kingdom
Telefónica O2 United Kingdom
Vodafone United Kingdom
Orange United Kingdom
Doesn't look like there's a network it wont work on in the UK!
The Nexus One may just work on other 3g networks from what ive heard just a rumor though.
http://www.n1user.com/2010/01/04/rumor-that-nex…get-3g-for-att/
qvert said:
Does anyone know if the nexus one will work on european 3g networks?
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Im using it (sim free version) in Russia on GSM (900/1800)
Works on SFR France.
Guys the N1 just doesn't work in the US on AT&T. Most places its going to work.
Works in France with Bouygues Telecom too.
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Hey!
first hello, I'm a newbie here!
sorry if I double-post.
Is there a thread with the parameters of the different network operators for the 3G access ?
Among those of you with a deap knowledge of the inner working of HTC phone for 3G networks.
Is HTC doing something to phones for each carrier to lock the phone to a specific carriers 3G network and no other.
I'm asking because I was talking with a freind of mine who was given a HD2 as a part of a promotion for use on AT&T 3G network (850/2100). He uses T-Mobile and tried to get it to work with his T-Mobile SIM with no success. He also told me he had a conversation with someone from HTC that told him that he would no beable to get his HD2 to work on T-Mobile because the hardware will not work with T-Mobiles 3G network (1700/2100).
If this is the case does anyone know if it changable, is it a Firmware issue that can be changed or is it like hard wired physically?
Then the question is if we are buying these phone, some through contracts others outright, do we want to told whos service we have to use!!
Lets have some good discussion...
there are billions of threads on this.
3g is radio/hardware dependent. he'll unfortunately be stuck on EDGE.
He will have no issues using the phone with T-mobile usa. He will not get 3G because of the bands. He will just have edge. But calls, mms, text, email, and internet will all function properly.
Clarify this please
I bought my HTC HD2 in USA (unlocked) and here in Peru, where I live, I cannot get it to work with 3G. If I lived in USA, is there a way to know with what carrier I would get 3G ?
alejo1575 said:
I bought my HTC HD2 in USA (unlocked) and here in Peru, where I live, I cannot get it to work with 3G. If I lived in USA, is there a way to know with what carrier I would get 3G ?
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So you are on Claro in Peru?
For 3G you need a phone with 3G 1900 support. If it is the T-Mobile version, that would have 3G on 1700/2100 bands which would be no good. If you got an AT&T handset (850/1900) it would work for 3G for you.
You need to understand what 3G support your version of the phone has. For example mine (Telstra Australia) is 850/2100 - which would not be able to pick up 3G in your network - however it works excellent with Telstra (850) in Australia and currently working well with StarHub (2100) in Singapore.
Your phone is quad band - but that is GSM quadband not 3G - it is 3G dual band and that is what is important for your connection.
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See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UMTS_networks for list of 3G networks...
Yeah ...bad news
tallmantim said:
So you are on Claro in Peru?
For 3G you need a phone with 3G 1900 support. If it is the T-Mobile version, that would have 3G on 1700/2100 bands which would be no good. If you got an AT&T handset (850/1900) it would work for 3G for you.
You need to understand what 3G support your version of the phone has. For example mine (Telstra Australia) is 850/2100 - which would not be able to pick up 3G in your network - however it works excellent with Telstra (850) in Australia and currently working well with StarHub (2100) in Singapore.
Your phone is quad band - but that is GSM quadband not 3G - it is 3G dual band and that is what is important for your connection.
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See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UMTS_networks for list of 3G networks...
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Hi tallmantim ....
Thanks for your response. Yeah, today I did my homework and found that my HD2 has UMTS (HSDPA) 900 - 2100 bands, a fact that is not good because Claro and Movistar in Peru operated the 850 - 1900 bands for 3G.
Question: is there a HD2 version with 850 - 1900 band ????
alejo1575 said:
Hi tallmantim ....
Thanks for your response. Yeah, today I did my homework and found that my HD2 has UMTS (HSDPA) 900 - 2100 bands, a fact that is not good because Claro and Movistar in Peru operated the 850 - 1900 bands for 3G.
Question: is there a HD2 version with 850 - 1900 band ????
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No, but the Telstra HD2 will pick up the 850MHz signals where they exist. There is no HD2 with the 1900MHz UMTS band at the moment
lude219 said:
there are billions of threads on this.
3g is radio/hardware dependent. he'll unfortunately be stuck on EDGE.
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Would you mind pointing me in the direction of those BILLIONS of threads.
I've done searchs on hardware dependents, radio/hardware dependents, 3G radio.
There are so many way that is topic could be listed.
I'm finding nothing but my thread now just as before.
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a freind of mine who was given a HD2 as a part of a promotion for use on AT&T 3G network
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Then the question is if we are buying these phone, some through contracts others outright, do we want to told whos service we have to use!!
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Erm, so AT&T gives a phone, for promotion of their service, and at the same time they should allow you to use another network? You've got too much hope there...
alejo1575 said:
Hi tallmantim ....
Thanks for your response. Yeah, today I did my homework and found that my HD2 has UMTS (HSDPA) 900 - 2100 bands, a fact that is not good because Claro and Movistar in Peru operated the 850 - 1900 bands for 3G.
Question: is there a HD2 version with 850 - 1900 band ????
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yea my friend my phone is , and i am here with t mobile suffering from same problem like u , i bought that phone which is compatible with Asia , not here in usa
is there way to exchange??
mine is
Network HSPA/WCDMA:
900/2100 MHz
Up to 2 Mbps upload and 7.2 Mbps download speeds
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
(Band frequency, HSPA availability, and data speed are
operator dependen)
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is there way to exchange??
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exchange your phone for cash
exchange that cash for a phone that supports the correct bands.
Hi All
I have recently moved to Canada with my UK HTC HD2.
Since moving here I have changed my phone provider to Fido (Rogers Network). Internet seems extremely slow compared to my UK provider.
Someone told me that because I have a UK phone it is not using the correct bands for HSPA and that's why my internet access is so slow. Internet access is extremely fast on Wi-Fi so I know it's not a problem with the ROM etc.
Can anyone give me any ideas if this sounds correct - do I need to sell my UK HTC HD2 and purchase an American one to get over this problem?
Thanks
I think your friend is correct.
Rogers uses 850Mhz and 1900 Mhz, while in the
United Kingdom the bands used are 800Mhz and 1800Mhz (and some 2100Mhz),
Your UK HD2 is of European configuration, and should be able to cope with the Rogers frequencies. (See)
Your phone uses 900 - 2100 for 3G
Rogers provides it at 850 - 1900 , therefore your phone will slow down to GPRS speeds.
Have you tried flashing a new radio ROM?
If so, perhaps you should try another one.
At least in theory you could keep your phone and have mobile broadband.
What your friend is telling is true for dual band phones, however the HD2 is quad band..... Perhaps contact your provider (sometimes the dataplan has not been correctly activated, therefore access to mobile broadband is denied, and you will revert to the low GSM data band)
Otherwise contact HTC.
PS: Sorry for my ****-up
the t8585 (regular hd2) uses 900 and 2100 for 3g.
source
thats why canadian users with cash to splash go for the australian telstra model which uses 850/2100
You will only get GPRS and edge speeds, and no, the american wont get 3g either.
Yep....
I's official, I am cross-eyed, got the correct info, but wrong interpretation.
I stand corrected.
Thanks to both of you for the response .... I'm a little confused though!
So if I bought a T-Mobile USA model - that wouldn't give me 3G on the Rogers network I'm on? I have to buy an Australian Telstra model to get 3G?
Thanks!
*EDIT* ... Oh I think I get it now... I don't need to have the 850 and 1900 bands to use 3G on the Rogers network so long as I have one or the other - correct me if I am wrong please?
yea thats it, and the US hd2 has 1700/2100 which is why that one doesnt get 3g on rogers.
I get ya! Thanks for that.... so is Canada the only country that uses 1900? I'm asking because I now know that I can buy an Australian phone to suit the 850 but is there another country's phone apart from Canada that will use the 1900 band?
also I noticed something in my phone settings....there's an option to change my base band so I have selected 850/1900 GSM but it doesn't seem to have made a great deal of difference even after a reset
that's gsm, (calls, gprs and edge) nothing to do with the umts bands.
put umts bands into google, theres a Wikipedia page tells you what countries and networks use what bands.
Hello guys !
Newbie here, posting from Romania.
I've just received a Note 3 from US, it's the SM-N900T model, bought it online, guy said it is unlocked and region unlocked.
Inserted the Vodafone SIM that I have and nothing happens. I finally managed to find the network, but once i restarted the device, it's says "Searching".
I can't initiate calls. What do I need to do so I can use the phone?
Also it can't connect to my wireless router. It says "'authentication error occurred". Tried lots of stuff, like disabling the power mode of the wifi, router settings, but nothing!
Any help please. I just got this sweet phone and sadly i'm stuck !
Thank you!
m3pow
m3pow said:
Hello guys !
Newbie here, posting from Romania.
I've just received a Note 3 from US, it's the SM-N900T model, bought it online, guy said it is unlocked and region unlocked.
Inserted the Vodafone SIM that I have and nothing happens. I finally managed to find the network, but once i restarted the device, it's says "Searching".
I can't initiate calls. What do I need to do so I can use the phone?
Also it can't connect to my wireless router. It says "'authentication error occurred". Tried lots of stuff, like disabling the power mode of the wifi, router settings, but nothing!
Any help please. I just got this sweet phone and sadly i'm stuck !
Thank you!
m3pow
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I think it is region-locked, if it was network-locked would have asked directly for a code. You can ask in the specific N900T forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-tmobile
You might be able to use RegionLockAway to make it work (if you are rooted).
xclub_101 said:
I think it is region-locked, if it was network-locked would have asked directly for a code. You can ask in the specific N900T forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-tmobile
You might be able to use RegionLockAway to make it work (if you are rooted).
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I did try the RegionLockAway method, but no success. Program said that terminated successfully but I still can't get my network!
If i try to initate calls i get a "Not registered on network". After i search for a GSM, i get Vodafone, try to connect but nothing.
Strangely it does say that i have full signal, though it's still searching for the network!
Hello !
I can make emergency calls, i just noticed! It doesn't ask for a particular code at all, just that i can't reach my network, which is very unpleasant!
Thanks
Tud
An update on the phone's status.
I live is a small city, and on my old phone the network is bang on.
Today, I took the Note 3 with me, hopefully i can find some answers elsewhere, and in a big important city, 50km away, the singal strength was excelent, it found the network immediately.
What could it be then ? Some antenna issues, software issues?
Thanks !
**Update!
About the WiFi connectivity. I have a router which is not wireless, connected to a ZyXeL access point.
This way i can't seem to connect the Note 3 to the wireless network as I do with my laptop. I have changed this setup to a single wireless router (ZyXeL) and it works great.
Does anyone have a clue about my no network in my town issue?
Cheers
Technically, yes it IS unlocked for international use. Unfortunately the only band that the 900T supports with Vodafone Romania is 2100 which is the fastest band next to LTE on the carrier. If your not getting 2100 on your current phone then your going to get no service at all because theres no bands or older networks to fall back on. In the bigger city vodafone is going to have their fastest network available as its more congested thus the signal, because it was connecting to the 2100 band which is nearly 4G so it would be super smooth.
The N9005 is the only N3 that actually supports Vodafones network in your country on every band even LTE rollout.
Vodafone Romania Bands (Wikipedia)
226 01 900 MHz GSM/GPRS 2G
226 01 1800 MHz GSM/GPRS 2G
226 01 900 MHz UMTS/HSPA (7.2 Mbit/s/5.76 Mbit/s) 3G
226 01 2100 MHz UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (43.2 Mbit/s/5.76 Mbit/s) 3G
226 01 1800 MHz LTE (2x2 MIMO 75 Mbit/s/37.5 Mbit/s) 4G
Your only going to get service where vodafones HSPA+ services are deployed.
International bands according to TMO:
UMTS: Band IV (AWS);UMTS/HSPA+: AWS Band IV / 2100 / 1900 / 850;Band II (1900);Quad Band GSM;LTE
Quad-Band GSM should mean your hitting 900 & 1800Mhz too though.... which is a band redundant with 3G & 2G services.
Thank you very much for clearing things up!
My only choices are: Orange and Cosmote
-- COSMOTE --
226 03 900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
226 03 1800 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
226 03 1800 MHz LTE (2x2 MIMO 75 Mbit/s/37.5 Mbit/s) 4G
226 06 2100 MHz UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (43.2 Mbit/s/5.76 Mbit/s) 3G
-- ORANGE --
226 10 900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
226 10 1800 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
226 10 900 MHz UMTS/HSPA (14.4 Mbit/s/5.76 Mbit/s) 3G
226 10 2100 MHz UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (43.2 Mbit/s/5.76 Mbit/s 3G
226 10 1800 MHz LTE (2x2 MIMO 75 Mbit/s/37.5 Mbit/s) 4G
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Technically, yes it IS unlocked for international use. Unfortunately the only band that the 900T supports with Vodafone Romania is 2100 which is the fastest band next to LTE on the carrier. If your not getting 2100 on your current phone then your going to get no service at all because theres no bands or older networks to fall back on. In the bigger city vodafone is going to have their fastest network available as its more congested thus the signal, because it was connecting to the 2100 band which is nearly 4G so it would be super smooth.
The N9005 is the only N3 that actually supports Vodafones network in your country on every band even LTE rollout.
Vodafone Romania Bands (Wikipedia)
226 01 900 MHz GSM/GPRS 2G
226 01 1800 MHz GSM/GPRS 2G
226 01 900 MHz UMTS/HSPA (7.2 Mbit/s/5.76 Mbit/s) 3G
226 01 2100 MHz UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (43.2 Mbit/s/5.76 Mbit/s) 3G
226 01 1800 MHz LTE (2x2 MIMO 75 Mbit/s/37.5 Mbit/s) 4G
Your only going to get service where vodafones HSPA+ services are deployed.
International bands according to TMO:
UMTS: Band IV (AWS);UMTS/HSPA+: AWS Band IV / 2100 / 1900 / 850;Band II (1900);Quad Band GSM;LTE
Quad-Band GSM should mean your hitting 900 & 1800Mhz too though.... which is a band redundant with 3G & 2G services.
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Reading your post I impressed u have good knowledge of telco, I am residing in UAE & flashed poland firmware for my SM-N 9005 unlock sim free Note 3, No problem signals of LTE & all working fine but just for knowledge poland & UAE has same frequency if compare?Up to now UAE don’t have kitkat & always firmware update is bad, so if there is no much different between this two country in bandwidth I can keep using poland kitkat even after UAE relies kitkat, I try to search in google but not getting satisfactory answer if u can give some knowledge to improve mine will be highly appreciate.Thanks
nxneko said:
Technically, yes it IS unlocked for international use. Unfortunately the only band that the 900T supports with Vodafone Romania is 2100 which is the fastest band next to LTE on the carrier. If your not getting 2100 on your current phone then your going to get no service at all because theres no bands or older networks to fall back on. In the bigger city vodafone is going to have their fastest network available as its more congested thus the signal, because it was connecting to the 2100 band which is nearly 4G so it would be super smooth.
The N9005 is the only N3 that actually supports Vodafones network in your country on every band even LTE rollout.
Vodafone Romania Bands (Wikipedia)
226 01 900 MHz GSM/GPRS 2G
226 01 1800 MHz GSM/GPRS 2G
226 01 900 MHz UMTS/HSPA (7.2 Mbit/s/5.76 Mbit/s) 3G
226 01 2100 MHz UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (43.2 Mbit/s/5.76 Mbit/s) 3G
226 01 1800 MHz LTE (2x2 MIMO 75 Mbit/s/37.5 Mbit/s) 4G
Your only going to get service where vodafones HSPA+ services are deployed.
International bands according to TMO:
UMTS: Band IV (AWS);UMTS/HSPA+: AWS Band IV / 2100 / 1900 / 850;Band II (1900);Quad Band GSM;LTE
Quad-Band GSM should mean your hitting 900 & 1800Mhz too though.... which is a band redundant with 3G & 2G services.
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Can I do something about this or I'm stuck with the 2100Mhz band ?
Clarification
Hello, I'm new to the XDA forums and I choose to post here because I have a similar issue. I also purchased a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 from a T-Mobile store in the United States. It is the SM-N900T model. My situation is that this phone was activated on the American T-Mobile network and the North American region. I am receiving here in Romania because I'm staying for some time. I have been reading a lot on the internet that European note 3's have this huge problem with region locks from Samsung. Although I have not found anybody to say specifically that a North American region phone with a sim unlock will not work in a European country. When I receive the phone I will do a sim unlock but will that be enough to make it work here?
jdomadia said:
Reading your post I impressed u have good knowledge of telco, I am residing in UAE & flashed poland firmware for my SM-N 9005 unlock sim free Note 3, No problem signals of LTE & all working fine but just for knowledge poland & UAE has same frequency if compare?Up to now UAE don’t have kitkat & always firmware update is bad, so if there is no much different between this two country in bandwidth I can keep using poland kitkat even after UAE relies kitkat, I try to search in google but not getting satisfactory answer if u can give some knowledge to improve mine will be highly appreciate.Thanks
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Yeah you can use any base, thats why N9005 roms are using whatever stable KK base is no matter the region. It doesnt effect what networks it can connect to overall. It just means you lose the UAE "My Number My Identity" IDs in settings so you cant register it with the TRA.
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Can I do something about this or I'm stuck with the 2100Mhz band ?
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"QuadBand" implies it works on all of Vodafones frequencies, because quadband in itself...means it works on the 4 major worldwide bands which voda operates now if TMobile/Samsung locks it...then that would be different story. ill ask when they re-open.
nxneko said:
Yeah you can use any base, thats why N9005 roms are using whatever stable KK base is no matter the region. It doesnt effect what networks it can connect to overall. It just means you lose the UAE "My Number My Identity" IDs in settings so you cant register it with the TRA.
"QuadBand" implies it works on all of Vodafones frequencies, because quadband in itself...means it works on the 4 major worldwide bands which voda operates now if TMobile/Samsung locks it...then that would be different story. ill ask when they re-open.
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Thanks lot for Info,Yes when I was on UAE firmware XSI in settings My mobile number was there but now No, is it make any different to us any way continue using mobile without "My Number My Identity" IDs?
jdomadia said:
Thanks lot for Info,Yes when I was on UAE firmware XSI in settings My mobile number was there but now No, is it make any different to us any way continue using mobile without "My Number My Identity" IDs?
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It does not matter, it is campaign from TRA to keep people who sim-card share safe when somebody uses it illegally. only DU forces their users to register & you use your actual number.
nxneko said:
It does not matter, it is campaign from TRA to keep people who sim-card share safe when somebody uses it illegally. only DU forces their users to register & you use your actual number.
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Good, So everything is fine with poland rom here in UAE but now I notice one thing GPS satelite getting lock very late, but may this bug of kitkat rom & nothing to do with region.Thanks Very much for Useful Info.