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I have had atrix about a week now and I have been having some extreme overheating issues. After about 15 minutes of watching a youtube video, according to temp monitor lite, my cpu temperature rose to about 55 degrees celsius. Is this nnormal? Or should I as for a replacement?
Thanks.
There us several threads about this....
And its normal idk why.
Mine its at 55 or more and battery get like 43+
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I'm wondering, why do you say 55C is overheating?
That's very hot for a hand held device in my eyes. A pc its not so bad, but still that's hot!
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That's very hot for a hand held device in my eyes. A pc its not so bad, but still that's hot!
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Yes, it's hot, but apparently it's normal. Scares me when it gets that hot, but I haven't heard of anything really bad happening to anyone or their phones.
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Are you people saying its normal .. as in a lot of people are experiencing this?
Or
saying its normal as per Motorola saying its normal?
If its the first option, I would hardly think that is safe. Ever think its a device wide ISSUE? Unless Motorola say that the device has no issue running at those temperatures, then I would really doubt it is normal.
Do you think this phone has some sort of unseen substance in it that prevents it from being damaged at this kind of temperaturewhich no other smartphone has? There is no extra protection for the sim or memory card. Which obivously are not meant to deal with excessive heat
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If the phone had active cooling for the processor (like a fan, hahaha.) and it still "overheated" then that would be an issue, otherwise you're looking at a 1GHz phone with twice the cores of any previous phone at the same clock speed. What are you really expecting?
I dont agree that its normal for the phone to get hot regularly, i definitely wouldn't put up with "crazy overheating". And I dont use my Atrix moderately either, I'm constantly on it. TiBU tells me I have 417 system/user apps as an example of my extreme use. There are a couple other threads on this subject, op you should search them out. WatchDog will monitor your apps and let you know if any are misbehaving.
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Are you people saying its normal .. as in a lot of people are experiencing this?
Or
saying its normal as per Motorola saying its normal?
If its the first option, I would hardly think that is safe. Ever think its a device wide ISSUE? Unless Motorola say that the device has no issue running at those temperatures, then I would really doubt it is normal.
Do you think this phone has some sort of unseen substance in it that prevents it from being damaged at this kind of temperaturewhich no other smartphone has? There is no extra protection for the sim or memory card. Which obivously are not meant to deal with excessive heat
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From Motorola:
"It is possible phones will become warmer during heavy use. This is normal behavior especially if you are transmitting data, talking for an extended period of time, or playing games or music on the device. In these conditions, the phone is transmitting and utilizing alot of power on the device which will generate heat.
Motorola phones manufactured in 2009 or later have a "cool down mode" function. This feature is designed to protect the battery and circuit board. If the internal temperature of the phone exceeds 136 degrees Fahrenheit, the device will shutdown all functions except emergency calls. When this happens it will display a cool down mode message. Once overheated, a phone will not regain full functionality until the internal temperature drops below 136 degrees Fahrenheit. Ensure you are not leaving the phone in locked cars, in direct sunlight, on warm or hot items such as heaters or radiators, or any location that produces heat that will heat up the phone."
If it gets hot while charging the battery, and doing nothing else, there is a problem.
Now, please don't give up your day job, because being a smartass isn't working for you! Don't let the doorknob hit ya where the good lord split ya on yer way out!
My phone has never been over 105 degrees Fahrenheit and that was only because I was trapped inside a black car for 30 minutes with the AC turned off and it being 95 degrees out :?/
I loled.
How hot is 55c?
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How hot is 55c?
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My phone got to 140drgrees in the car dock
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Dude its a dual core phone hello its gonna get hot its not a little girls phone this is the big boss this thing cranks out alot of power HELLO just look at the battery what do u you expect
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From Motorola:
"It is possible phones will become warmer during heavy use. This is normal behavior especially if you are transmitting data, talking for an extended period of time, or playing games or music on the device. In these conditions, the phone is transmitting and utilizing alot of power on the device which will generate heat.
Motorola phones manufactured in 2009 or later have a "cool down mode" function. This feature is designed to protect the battery and circuit board. If the internal temperature of the phone exceeds 136 degrees Fahrenheit, the device will shutdown all functions except emergency calls. When this happens it will display a cool down mode message. Once overheated, a phone will not regain full functionality until the internal temperature drops below 136 degrees Fahrenheit. Ensure you are not leaving the phone in locked cars, in direct sunlight, on warm or hot items such as heaters or radiators, or any location that produces heat that will heat up the phone."
If it gets hot while charging the battery, and doing nothing else, there is a problem.
Now, please don't give up your day job, because being a smartass isn't working for you! Don't let the doorknob hit ya where the good lord split ya on yer way out!
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Ok .. you showed a critical threshold of the phone. Do you think pushing the phone to excessive heats but staying below that threshold is good for the phone? Notice that it doesn't mention how SIM cards and memory cards will continue to respond when being exposed to excessive heat with no ventilation or circulation ..in fact your quote clearly says that feature is for the bAttery and circuit board
Bottom line..
you can push your phone to 130 degrees (since that's below your shutdown threshold ) and I will spread out my usage and keep my temperature down to a minimum ... and my phone WILL last longer than yours and I WILL have less issues with it.
Highest my battery has ever got is 48c
highest my processor has ever been is 63c
was the phone hot? probably.
processor normally sits at about 45-50 in my cardock as per what setcpu says
battery sits between 40 and 45 in the car dock.
Watching a movie in the car dock whilst my kid was in the car setcpu says it hits anywhere between 55 and 60.
It leads me to believe that the max operating temperature for the CPU is right at about 65c, and teh battery right about 55c.
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Ok .. you showed a critical threshold of the phone. Do you think pushing the phone to excessive heats but staying below that threshold is good for the phone? Notice that it doesn't mention how SIM cards and memory cards will continue to respond when being exposed to excessive heat with no ventilation or circulation ..in fact your quote clearly says that feature is for the bAttery and circuit board
Bottom line..
you can push your phone to 130 degrees (since that's below your shutdown threshold ) and I will spread out my usage and keep my temperature down to a minimum ... and my phone WILL last longer than yours and I WILL have less issues with it.
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So you are basically talking about the SIM card and memory card on all phones which are going to come out with dual core and no active cooling, cos they are all going to get hot. What Motorola has stated is what any manufacturer would and does. They have given us their safe operating threshold. Now, 136 degrees is a lot, but how much of this heat affects your SIM card and SDCard? I don't know, and you have provided absolutely nothing to substantiate your personal claims. Bigger doorknob needed I guess!
I simply responded to the OP telling them it's normal for this phone to get hot. If you want to continue down this avenue we can, but until you have something from a SIM card manufacturer and SDCard manufacturer substantiating you claims, I'm done.
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SuperDeform said:
How hot is 55c?
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you know, there is this awesome service called google that is good for finding answers. in fact you can enter something like "55C to F" and get the conversion.
here, lets show you how it works
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=55C+to+F
CaelanT said:
So you are basically talking about the SIM card and memory card on all phones which are going to come out with dual core and no active cooling, cos they are all going to get hot. What Motorola has stated is what any manufacturer would and does. They have given us their safe operating threshold. Now, 136 degrees is a lot, but how much of this heat affects your SIM card and SDCard? I don't know, and you have provided absolutely nothing to substantiate your personal claims. Bigger doorknob needed I guess!
I simply responded to the OP telling them it's normal for this phone to get hot. If you want to continue down this avenue we can, but until you have something from a SIM card manufacturer and SDCard manufacturer substantiating you claims, I'm done.
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Considering the memory card and SIM card are not far from the battery and are trapped under a cover... a lot of the heat would be affecting them as well. When did I say anything about dual core at all? I don't think I even typed those words out.
Point is that I don't know if most of these people are even doing enough tasks on their phones to even get TWO cores aggitated enough to put out that kind of heat. All of my other smart phones were pushed much more than this and have remained pretty cool to the touch. Even one with a metal battery cover.
I was more replying to the many posts across the ner and people I know that have the Atrix heat up too much and for too long.
As far as OP goes..
"I have had atrix about a week now and I have been having some extreme overheating issues. After about 15 minutes of watching a youtube video, according to temp monitor lite, my cpu temperature rose to about 55 degrees celsius. Is this nnormal? Or should I as for a replacement?
Thanks."
When you're streaming video the heat will increase, but make sure you dont let it stay hot for increased periods of time. You dont need to request a replacement unless you are experiencing excessive heat frequently.
Also, when streaming - try not to have GPS and other things like that running in the background.
Dear Community,
In this thread I want to gather a sample to investigate to what extent the S4 suffers form overheating and how this affects the battery drainage/life. I urge you to participate as I am collecting a sample to submit a formal complaint to Samsung to raise awareness to an issue that is widespread among S4 users and to push Samsung to address this issue accordingly. In order to provide your sample please follow the instructions below and report back in this thread with the relevant information. Please first indicate which variant you have: Quad/Octa (i9505 or i9500)
Please download BatteryGraph (it's a great app to measure Battery drainage accurately) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.modroid.battery
Run it once after download to initiate logging. Let it run for 10 minutes to allow the graph to built up a bit.
Then please Download Antutu benchmark run the benchmark fully exactly 5 times back to back (continuously). After that please enter the stock dialer (as quickly as possible) and enter *#0228# and post the temperature (external thermistor) after the tests in order to determine the maximum temp that the device reaches under continuous stress.
After that, please enter the app Battery Graph and zoom into the graph to the maximum level. Scroll slowly along the curve at the time when you performed the Benchmarks and tell me if there are interruptions or 'skips' where the battery drops 1 or 2 percent at a time and where the App does not Register a graph for those drops. Sequence/scroll slowly along the graph 1% at a time and make sure that the battery dropped 1% at a time. Please report of the battery has dropped more than 1% at a time. Please make a screenshot of your battery graph in the App and post it here for collection. I will analyze the graphs subsequently and compile it in SPSS to submit our findings.
If there is a drop of 2 or 3% at a time it means that you are experiencing Battery Percentage skips/cliffs which could indicate either a defective battery or defective device which might be the cause for the extensive heat development.
Thank you for your participation. Hopefully Samsung will listen to us and address the issue to give us the perfect S4 that we deserve.
Best,
Thomas from Germany
exxi said:
Dear Community,
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Thank you for your participation. Hopefully Samsung will listen to us and address the issue to give us the perfect S4 that we deserve.
Best,
Thomas from Germany
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That battery app polls for battery level changes every 5 minutes by default. I think almost every device will experience a drop of more than 1% every 5 minutes under constant stress testing. You can change it to poll every 1 minute in the settings, which you might want to mention, but even so isn't it entirely possible to lose more than 1% a minute with everything turned on (GPS, Gestures, etc.) and ~17 minutes of constant cpu/gpu stress testing? It's a nice idea but it doesn't sound like it would yield very accurate results, unless I've misunderstood your post.
EDIT: Nevermind, I see how you can step through it 1% at a time now.
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That battery app polls for battery level changes every 5 minutes by default. I think almost every device will experience a drop of more than 1% every 5 minutes under constant stress testing. You can change it to poll every 1 minute in the settings, which you might want to mention, but even so isn't it entirely possible to lose more than 1% a minute with everything turned on (GPS, Gestures, etc.) and ~17 minutes of constant cpu/gpu stress testing? It's a nice idea but it doesn't sound like it would yield very accurate results, unless I've misunderstood your post.
I've also noticed that you cannot really zoom in very far and at the highest zoom setting the % is still displayed in multiples of 10. Kind of tricky to differentiate between a 1% and a 2% drop.
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You might be right, what would you suggest in order to yield more accurate results? I suspect that the heat is directly linked to a very quick drainage of the battery. How can we measure how much it affects the actual battery drainage?
exxi said:
You might be right, what would you suggest in order to yield more accurate results? I suspect that the heat is directly linked to a very quick drainage of the battery. How can we measure how much it affects the actual battery drainage?
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I'm not criticizing you or anything and I'm not saying it's a bad idea, It's just that obtaining accurate battery results are tricky as everyone's device is different, has different settings enabled and are running different kernels/ROMs/etc. Batteries also seem to get more efficient as time goes on so newer devices might suffer from higher battery drains.
I'll run the battery temp test now though and see how hot mine gets!
I like your critical thinking, obviously you are right it is very trick but I believe the heat test itself could be very indicative. In the meantime I will try to find a better way to measure battery drainage.
So everyone please try to run the benchmark multiple times and submit the temperature.
The most I was able to get was 52C
Thanks
Pre-test: 29.9°C
After 3 tests: 35.0°C
After 5 tests: 37.7°C
After 7 tests: 38.4°C
After 10 tests: 38.8°C
The temperature increased less and less so I don't know how much higher I could get it.
Also, an easier way to poll the temperature is to do "adb shell dumpsys battery" over ADB. The temp will be displayed as something like 388 which means 38.8°C
Edit: It might be worth noting that the top of the phone, around the camera but more so on the screen side (so the cpu?) got incredibly hot. Almost too hot to touch. Kinda worrying, but I have spent the last half an hour stress testing, I guess
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Pre-test: 29.9°C
After 3 tests: 35.0°C
After 5 tests: 37.7°C
After 7 tests: 38.4°C
After 10 tests: 38.8°C
The temperature increased less and less so I don't know how much higher I could get it.
Also, an easier way to poll the temperature is to do "adb shell dumpsys battery" over ADB. The temp will be displayed as something like 388 which means 38.8°C
Edit: It might be worth noting that the top of the phone, around the camera but more so on the screen side (so the cpu?) got incredibly hot. Almost too hot to touch. Kinda worrying, but I have spent the last half an hour stress testing, I guess
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Thanks for your contribution Meltus! Really appreciated my friend. Also thanks for the ADB command it does make it easier but I doubt that you've read the correct temp as 38 appears to be quite low compared to what i got. Is your S4 a i9505 ?
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Thanks for your contribution Meltus! Really appreciated my friend. Also thanks for the ADB command it does make it easier but I doubt that you've read the correct temp as 38 appears to be quite low compared to what i got. Is your S4 a i9505 ?
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It's also the temperature that dialling *#0228# gave me (I double checked they were both the same each time). And no, I have an i9500, running Omega ROM, if that helps.
Might want to mention the elementary precaution of taking off all case covers except for the stock case before testing to prevent insulation effect of case covers increasing battery temperature...
While you're at it you might want to standardize room temperature to 25 degrees C... I know for a fact that my device would never get hot no matter what it does if running in the freezing cold air-con'd metro...
What about brightness settings and whatnot. Should all be the same, so you have to give a standard.
Pre-test: 36.2°C
After 3 tests: 51.4°C
After 5 tests: 54.6°C
After 7 tests: 56.9°C
dafaq right??? im really annoyed at sammy for this overheating S4... after 7 times testing the Antutu, i stopped and LITERALLY put my S4 in the lower compartment of the refrigerator to get it cooled down quickly cause im pretty sure the heat sensors inside would definitely be having some testing errors and the temperatures would be really really higher than that. even when i swipe between different homescreens the phone gets to 47°C which is really annoying.
can someone pls for the LOVE OF GOD provide any solution to this freaking problem? i have been worrying a lot for spending my $730 on an overheating phone...
i have S4 i9500 Exynos version
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oh and i have half the brightness all the time for everything and auto brightness turned off
Are you talking about the battery temperature? If so something is extremely wrong with your unit, my battery temperature never went past 45 even with high stress.
If in case you are pointing out the cpu temperature then there is no reason to freak out because the cpu can handle upto 90c + and can cool off pretty fast
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And why on earth you ran Antutu for 7 times continously lol? None of the current generation phones can handle it for 7 times on a row afaik
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bala_gamer said:
Are you talking about the battery temperature? If so something is extremely wrong with your unit, my battery temperature never went past 45 even with high stress.
If in case you are pointing out the cpu temperature then there is no reason to freak out because the cpu can handle upto 90c + and can cool off pretty fast
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And why on earth you ran Antutu for 7 times continously lol? None of the current generation phones can handle it for 7 times on a row afaik
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You can read the CPU temp instead of the battery temp?
bala_gamer said:
Are you talking about the battery temperature? If so something is extremely wrong with your unit, my battery temperature never went past 45 even with high stress.
If in case you are pointing out the cpu temperature then there is no reason to freak out because the cpu can handle upto 90c + and can cool off pretty fast
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And why on earth you ran Antutu for 7 times continously lol? None of the current generation phones can handle it for 7 times on a row afaik
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im talking about the cpu temps. i ran antutu cause it was asked to be done for this thread.
and why would it be silly to run any app 7 times on the flagship device? its made to run the apps as much as people want thats why we pay a huge amount of money for these devices dont we? or else we should buy the low end devices
just saying cause i had heating up issues with devices before infact my last device Note 2 used to get a lot hot but not as much as this S4...
i desperately need a solution for this...
Joe0Bloggs said:
You can read the CPU temp instead of the battery temp?
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Yes we can read cpu temp and battery temp separately, use system tuner app to read cpu temperature.
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im talking about the cpu temps. i ran antutu cause it was asked to be done for this thread.
and why would it be silly to run any app 7 times on the flagship device? its made to run the apps as much as people want thats why we pay a huge amount of money for these devices dont we? or else we should buy the low end devices
just saying cause i had heating up issues with devices before infact my last device Note 2 used to get a lot hot but not as much as this S4...
i desperately need a solution for this...
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You are not buying a flagship device just to run Antutu n number of times, do you? yes I accept we do pay huge money but that doesn't mean we can push the limit of a mobile and complain about it from a general user perspective . , it can be only done for experimental purposes and to understand the power /thermal envelope provided that it's done in the right way.
But how does running Antutu 7 times matches a real life scenario? Highly unlikely isn't it?
We are already pushing the limits of raw cpu power for a mobile, raw a15 cores are power hungry and often tend to heat faster than previous generation. Hence arm introduced the big little. The mobile heats up during heavy stress, but but that's expected with these powerful cores right? I'd better utilize the power wisely when needed rather than using it all the time. The cpu indeed gets hotter when stressed, it's the same With my s3 too the cpu temps reached upto 80,there is built in throttling mechanisms which will take of the cpu once the cut off temperature is reached. Have seen many benchmarkers these days using freezer test due to the thermal throttling in new gen devices. Yes the s4 heats up pretty quick than other mobiles but also cools down pretty fast and I think that's the way it is destined to work.
Hei one more thing, did you note how long it took to fallback to normal temps?
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bala_gamer said:
Are you talking about the battery temperature? If so something is extremely wrong with your unit, my battery temperature never went past 45 even with high stress.
If in case you are pointing out the cpu temperature then there is no reason to freak out because the cpu can handle upto 90c + and can cool off pretty fast
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And why on earth you ran Antutu for 7 times continously lol? None of the current generation phones can handle it for 7 times on a row afaik
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We were doing it to see if there was a correlation between excessive battery drain and overheating batteries. Mine never got any hotter than 40 and I have pretty great battery life. The OP was seeing temps of 50+ and I'm guessing he has poor battery life.
Could there have been a few batches of bad batteries sent out with devices?
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Meltus said:
We were doing it to see if there was a correlation between excessive battery drain and overheating batteries. Mine never got any hotter than 40 and I have pretty great battery life. The OP was seeing temps of 50+ and I'm guessing he has poor battery life.
Could there have been a few batches of bad batteries sent out with devices?
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Are you talking about battery temperature or cpu temperature? Haven't heard any stories so far regarding damaged battery, but may be possible.
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Thanks for the Updates > and clear step to analize the issue to fix in next Sw update
Thanks for your efforts ]
Dear Community,
In this thread I want to gather a sample to investigate to what extent the S4 suffers form overheating and how this affects the battery drainage/life. I urge you to participate as I am collecting a sample to submit a formal complaint to Samsung to raise awareness to an issue that is widespread among S4 users and to push Samsung to address this issue accordingly. In order to provide your sample please follow the instructions below and report back in this thread with the relevant information. Please first indicate which variant you have: Quad/Octa (i9505 or i9500)
Please download BatteryGraph (it's a great app to measure Battery drainage accurately) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.modroid.battery
Run it once after download to initiate logging. Let it run for 10 minutes to allow the graph to built up a bit.
Then please Download Antutu benchmark run the benchmark fully exactly 5 times back to back (continuously). After that please enter the stock dialer (as quickly as possible) and enter *#0228# and post the temperature (external thermistor) after the tests in order to determine the maximum temp that the device reaches under continuous stress.
After that, please enter the app Battery Graph and zoom into the graph to the maximum level. Scroll slowly along the curve at the time when you performed the Benchmarks and tell me if there are interruptions or 'skips' where the battery drops 1 or 2 percent at a time and where the App does not Register a graph for those drops. Sequence/scroll slowly along the graph 1% at a time and make sure that the battery dropped 1% at a time. Please report of the battery has dropped more than 1% at a time. Please make a screenshot of your battery graph in the App and post it here for collection. I will analyze the graphs subsequently and compile it in SPSS to submit our findings.
If there is a drop of 2 or 3% at a time it means that you are experiencing Battery Percentage skips/cliffs which could indicate either a defective battery or defective device which might be the cause for the extensive heat development.
Thank you for your participation. Hopefully Samsung will listen to us and address the issue to give us the perfect S4 that we deserve.
Best,
Thomas from Germany[/QUOTE]
bala_gamer said:
Are you talking about battery temperature or cpu temperature? Haven't heard any stories so far regarding damaged battery, but may be possible.
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Battery temperature. If someone's experiencing temperatures in excess of 50C and bad battery drain it would indicate a problem.
While charging and streaming TuneIn radio app through Bluetooth speaker. It's pretty hot though..
Here's mine, ambient temp is 28c. Not charging only TuneIn Radio dreaming on data.
46 degree c now. It's not that bad considering it was 64 earlier when charging and I live in Singapore
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That is nothing, my GS2 would get to 80c.
It's the battery I worry about as 25c is peak operation 40c it's already lost half of its life before recharge. The batteries get hot during charge though isn't probably a bad thing because it increases capacity.
Terrorantula said:
That is nothing, my GS2 would get to 80c.
It's the battery I worry about as 25c is peak operation 40c it's already lost half of its life before recharge. The batteries get hot during charge though isn't probably a bad thing because it increases capacity.
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This is what i am worried about too. Since the battery are not removable. Hopefully the heat won't cause any damage to the battery. :fingers-crossed:
Terrorantula said:
That is nothing, my GS2 would get to 80c.
It's the battery I worry about as 25c is peak operation 40c it's already lost half of its life before recharge. The batteries get hot during charge though isn't probably a bad thing because it increases capacity.
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Batteries are made to withstand much hotter than 40c If it wasn't the case, batteries would just die in ambient temp in some summer countries
alanchai said:
This is what i am worried about too. Since the battery are not removable. Hopefully the heat won't cause any damage to the battery. :fingers-crossed:
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It wont do damage to the battery as long as the battery doesn't go over 60c. It just means it'll discharge quicker and you'll have to put it through another cycle. Modern phones have like 2 years of cycles in them in you charge each day before until the life starts to become noticeable that it dropping off. I think I saw something where they're at about 80% after a year of charging per day. At the same time not using the battery is bad for it too..
So tbh I wouldn't worry about it as contracts last 2 years.
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Batteries are made to withstand much hotter than 40c If it wasn't the case, batteries would just die in ambient temp in some summer countries
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Yeh but they discharge quicker as they become hot, usually the battery doesn't get hot on a summers day unless you leave it out in the sun. That is why they die so quickly under heavy use because they get really hot.
I've seen my battery hit 47 degrees. I asked HTC tech support about this. The guy clearly had no idea but went away and asked someone and came back with the answer that, so long as it's below 55, you should be okay. I hope he's right.
Terrorantula said:
That is nothing, my GS2 would get to 80c.
It's the battery I worry about as 25c is peak operation 40c it's already lost half of its life before recharge. The batteries get hot during charge though isn't probably a bad thing because it increases capacity.
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get kernel tuner and look at the "battery temperature". Some apps like GSAM takes the processor temperature and not the battery temp.
Or also dial *#*#4636#*#* and go to the battery statistics page. You should see there your real battery temperature. It's kinda strange about you guys reaching 40c on battery temperature as I live in a tropical country and this month is peak of summer season. And I only get like 27c on my battery temperature right now with regular use.
Here's me playing need for speed most wanted. Burn baby burn!
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Here's me playing need for speed most wanted. Burn baby burn!
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I thought that temperature scale was in Celsius for a moment...
His phone is going over 110F, so he's probably hitting about 44C
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I thought that temperature scale was in Celsius for a moment...
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Lol yeah. Shoulda snapped a different picture.
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This is the most puzzling issue for me so far
I fully agree with @Terrorantula the problem is at hot temps it consumes battery quicker
i was using my uncle's unit for a while and i reported it doesnt get hot easily, my own unit is different though, its around 40C all the time during ordinary use as well
im worried about both drain and throttling in gaming
now i have a like an OCD about the previous unit
definitly we need to look into this, the funny part my own unit is supposed to consume less since its PVS3 vs PVS2, im even thinking we got it all wrong about PVS maybe the lower PVS is the better one?
How is the temperature while playing heavy games like DH4
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I get 40-41 on DH4. Maybe a few moments hit 42.
Right now, I'm charging my phone and using some low-demand apps and I'm sitting at 38. I believe it usually sits a little lower than that.
PVS4 here.
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ataft said:
I get 40-41 on DH4. Maybe a few moments hit 42.
Right now, I'm charging my phone and using some low-demand apps and I'm sitting at 38.
PVS4 here.
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DH4?
Dungeon Hunter 4. It's a decent looking game, so I imagine it pushes the phone fairly hard. I've come across times when it has noticeably slowed down. But that may be due more to lack of optimizations for the S600.
It's a gameloft game though, so you know they will try to screw you for money. And that is definitely the case with this game. Really good game, but you gotta be patient.
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I get high temps very often, I guess this is the cost of the premium aluminum build.
I'd think the aluminum build would help keep temps lower as it transfers heat more easily. I'm guessing the S600 and the battery combination are the cooker in this one.
...how the hell does Samsung get away with it's faster clocked s600?
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We all know why LG choose 808 over 810, now let's see the results of their choice:
Here we'll talk about the G4 operating temperature.
Try to indicate your ambient temperature, model, display brightness, app(s) used, your cpu utilization (I use cool Tool for it), and of course temperature (for that purpose I use Cpu Temp wich basically reads bms sensor of Cpu-z in overlay, and Cpu-z itself) ;
Remember to distinguish battery temperature from cpu sensors temperature and if using cpuz remember that temperatures are very sensitive to time so measure it only while performing the task wanted.
Keep it as scientific as possible
*I forgot to mention that CpuZ has an erroneous C to F conversion. So keep it in °C to be accurate
There is an intersting heat comparison HERE on Android Central to begin with
Good idea. Do note that CPU-Z seems to have a bug where it converts temperatures incorrectly from C into F, in the Thermal tab. From what I've seen, CPU-Z should be set to display in C, not F, if you want accurate readings.
To see the issue, check the temps, including in the Battery tab, then in the Thermal tab. For me, in C, the Thermal tab numbers seem reasonable, and the "battery" line in Thermal is close to the temp shown in the Battery tab. But change the units to F, and the Thermal tab suddenly reads the battery, and everything else, too-high by about 30F. The temperatures are not converting properly from C to F, the displayed C and F values are not equivalent. This conversion issue appears using CPU-Z on my last phone, as well.
So if posting CPU-Z temps from the Thermal tab, I'd suggest setting it to C, not F.
Thanks, I forgot to mention it, added
What's the point of this thread? This isn't a PC, it's not like we can do anything about the temps.
kyle1867 said:
What's the point of this thread? This isn't a PC, it's not like we can do anything about the temps.
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That is where you are wrong. It's called we can hard mod the phone for better temps.
Total newbie question, is the temperature you're feeling on the hand the one from the CPU, or the one from the battery, which is closer to the hand?
DeadPotato said:
Total newbie question, is the temperature you're feeling on the hand the one from the CPU, or the one from the battery, which is closer to the hand?
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It should be the battery because I notice my phone getting warm pretty often and I have a widget for battery temperature which tends to go up to around 38 °C often. I didn't check CPU temperatures but I don't think the CPU is heating up too much.
82 F - sitting on the desk doing nothing but looking pretty. VZW, brightness at 0% and Auto.
All these freaking temperature problems will be resolved in a few months when the freezing winter arrive xdddddddddddddf
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That is where you are wrong. It's called we can hard mod the phone for better temps.
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Lol, no, you can't.
At least LG choosing 808 instead of 810 due to hear issue was the right choice.
https://youtu.be/HltGLYZLySs
Take a look at a link above, SD810 might have upper hands during cooled state but that changes quickly throttling down below SD808 specs. SD810 potentials are pretty much obsolete and probably will never run on full more than 5 minutes.
SD808 is holding its speed even running hot. So I wouldn't really worry about hear part for this phone. But I'm with some users here. Few software updates will iron out some heating problems.
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I've noticed that phone is getting hot when charging even if the phone is in standby. I'm getting around 40-44c.
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I've noticed that phone is getting hot when charging even if the phone is in standby. I'm getting around 40-44c.
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That's low for charging honestly if your referring to cpu temp. Most phone cpu temps stay around 25-35 idling and mid 40s when just doing simple scrolling and small tasks. 60-70c is fairly normal on heavier tasks and games. Kernels usually don't even start throttling until the cpu gets in the70-80c (generally most start shutting down cores at 80).
That being said, my G4 is one of the coolest running phones that I've messed around with. CPU-Z usually says that I'm in the low 40s even on some heavier tasks. I know that my Note 4 gets much warmer, much faster. Heavy web browsing for example will have my N4 in the upper 50s low 60s. The G4 stays pretty stable in the upper 40s low 50s. I'm happy they chose the processor that they did honestly. Stays pretty cool compared to the competition.
you can even mine cryptocurrency on this beast for hours on a normal (here normal) 27-30°C ambient temperature, and the battery gets to 44°C and the CPU gets into the 50s.
This phone has one of the BEST thermal management I've ever seen. I was a nexus 4 user, so you can see how much i was struggling.
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Thank you all
Please add which sensor are you referring to and with wich app you use to read sensors
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At least LG choosing 808 instead of 810 due to hear issue was the right choice.
https://youtu.be/HltGLYZLySs
Take a look at a link above, SD810 might have upper hands during cooled state but that changes quickly throttling down below SD808 specs. SD810 potentials are pretty much obsolete and probably will never run on full more than 5 minutes.
SD808 is holding its speed even running hot. So I wouldn't really worry about hear part for this phone. But I'm with some users here. Few software updates will iron out some heating problems.
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I don't pretend to be rude, but that information is outdated and inaccurate. I don't know how the other manufacturers are doing with the 810 to be honest, the Z3+ is sort of new and I've been checking the threads but there's too early to judge so far, it happens that I do have an HTC One M9 up to date, stock and unrooted and I've noticed several improvements through updates. Considering my daily usage I didn't feel this was matching with what I experience in real life, so I decided to redo the test on the video. I ran AnTuTu benchmark 64 bits version 4 times in a row, and left an average of a minute (sometimes less, once was a bit more cause I took the wrong screenshot) between tests. The attachments were uploaded in chronological order, you can also guide for the hour displayed from the device.
Now besides the video only runs 4 times, I did notice it was holding every couple of tests and then decreases, so I decided to run one more for the sake of pure testing and check throttling behavior, and surprisingly the fifth run gave me an increase on the score instead of lowering it further.
I didn't find a dedicated benchmark thread on the G4 forum, unless LG had improved a lot the 808, and based on the several benchmark results you'll find across the internet, including the ones in that video, looks like even throttling snapdragon 810 holds as an 808 in worst case scenario.
About heating problems, if I'm providing a success case scenario with a more troublesome chip like the 810 is, I'm completely sure the 808 will be fixed in time
phone gets crazy hot when running Periscope
it even shows that hot temp message / stops charging
try broadcasting for 5 mins
Intersting comparison between M9, S6, G4, Droid Turbo heat dissipation HERE
Periscope heats up the phone like crazy!
I too have had issues with the device getting very hot on the top half of the screen. Tried a couple of factory resets but it didn't help. Even reset one more time and kept it stock after a few hours same problem. Took it to the AT&T store and of course it was behaving fine. Luckily the rep knew me and accepted I knew what I was talking about. Swapping mine for one first thing this morning when their new shipment comes in. Will update if issue persists or not.
Wish I would have done it 3 days ago. Might have been snagged another battery and leather case lol.
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Hello everyone
Yesterday I received my Moto X pure Edition, after 3 hour of charge I transfer all of my files and stuff from my old Nexus 5. After a few minutes of use I noticed that the phone started to overheat excessively (110 farenheit) and the battery only lasted 3 hours, I did a complete reset of the phone but the same result overheat after 15 minutes of use.
I replaced/updated the play services software and same thing.
Someone has the same problem???
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Arnt u glad its not the 810 lolol.. But in all seriousness i get about 4-5 hrs ost, depending what i do yes my phone gets hot but thats normal..
It all depends what ur doing when ur phone gets hot, are u watching videos.. Playing games.. Multitasking
Mine was 95-100° doing literally nothing but texting or on the web. Mine is going back asap. Gets way too hot and nothing special about it
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Mine was 95-100° doing literally nothing but texting or on the web. Mine is going back asap. Gets way too hot and nothing special about it
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Where did you buy the phone???
If you were setting up your phone of course it will get hot. After that it should settle down unless rogue app or games.
Had mine a couple days now, no heat issues.
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Where did you buy the phone???
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moto maker
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If you were setting up your phone of course it will get hot. After that it should settle down unless rogue app or games.
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and i was web browsing, facebook and texting and it was almost 100 degrees! Note 4 doing same things 85 ish
Mine also seems to heat up greatly for no apparent reason. Please tell me this isn't some kind of defect.
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Mine also seems to heat up greatly for no apparent reason. Please tell me this isn't some kind of defect.
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Looks like is a defect, I requested a exchange on Amazon...
Locklear308 said:
Mine also seems to heat up greatly for no apparent reason. Please tell me this isn't some kind of defect.
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I honestly don't think it is. I had 3 G4s and they were all hot and glitchy. I honestly think it is the sd808. Back when I called Samsung about exchanged a note 4 developer edition the guy told me that snapdragon 808/810 were heat prone and they would not be using them for upcoming phones. That was before it was publicly known. I still think there is something awry with their latest processors. Even late batch sd805 had heat issues. My note 5 had zero signs of heat and my note 4 you really have to push to get hot. The g4 & moto x got hot texting or web browsing! I don't get it. Can't be a confidence that both are 808 processors and heat demons
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I honestly don't think it is. I had 3 G4s and they were all hot and glitchy. I honestly think it is the sd808. Back when I called Samsung about exchanged a note 4 developer edition the guy told me that snapdragon 808/810 were heat prone and they would not be using them for upcoming phones. That was before it was publicly known. I still think there is something awry with their latest processors. Even late batch sd805 had heat issues. My note 5 had zero signs of heat and my note 4 you really have to push to get hot. The g4 & moto x got hot texting or web browsing! I don't get it. Can't be a confidence that both are 808 processors and heat demons
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I don't understand how it's so hard for them to make a chip not overheat. I mean this isn't the first, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th generation of chips. Perhaps custom kernels will allow us to throttle better?
Cool here except when turbo charging or navigation is on.
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Does the phone have a warning notification when it is getting too hot?
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Does the phone have a warning notification when it is getting too hot?
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Haven't seen one yet and mine gets hot several times a day when I'm multitasking or just playing a game.
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Computers get hot, CPU's get hot, PC's and laptops have fans to keep them cool...cell phones do not. I do not believe that any cell phone will ever stay "cool" when doing CPU/GPU intensive tasks. That's just the way it is.
turbo charger will heat it up that is obvious but yes when you do stuff that uses lots of cpu/ram it will heat up a little same was with my note4 .
Mine only overheats when I am doing some heavy usage...I don't think "Overheat" is the right word, maybe just "gets warm". But over the weekend, I acquired a Samsung Galaxy S6 (in a trade for a different phone). When setting it up, it was getting hotter than the MXP ever got. I checked it with Gsam battery and it was 133 degrees and took about 30 minutes to cool down. My MXP gets hot, but cools down pretty quick.
jaseman said:
Computers get hot, CPU's get hot, PC's and laptops have fans to keep them cool...cell phones do not. I do not believe that any cell phone will ever stay "cool" when doing CPU/GPU intensive tasks. That's just the way it is.
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The mine overheats just read my email, reach more than 100 degrees Fahrenheit, that is definitely not normal
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I don't understand how it's so hard for them to make a chip not overheat. I mean this isn't the first, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th generation of chips. Perhaps custom kernels will allow us to throttle better?
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I know right. It doesnt. the note 5 i had run so cool it wasnt even funny and my note 4 dev ed runs pretty cool unless i do something insane on it lol
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Haven't seen one yet and mine gets hot several times a day when I'm multitasking or just playing a game.
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yes yes mine got hot doing nothing
jaseman said:
Computers get hot, CPU's get hot, PC's and laptops have fans to keep them cool...cell phones do not. I do not believe that any cell phone will ever stay "cool" when doing CPU/GPU intensive tasks. That's just the way it is.
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I agree that phones need a little fan or something but i disagree with any phone will stay cool the note 4 and 5 are always 10+ degrees cooler then the x or my g4 was. im telling you its the 808 chipset
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Mine only overheats when I am doing some heavy usage...I don't think "Overheat" is the right word, maybe just "gets warm". But over the weekend, I acquired a Samsung Galaxy S6 (in a trade for a different phone). When setting it up, it was getting hotter than the MXP ever got. I checked it with Gsam battery and it was 133 degrees and took about 30 minutes to cool down. My MXP gets hot, but cools down pretty quick.
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Gets HOT and yes the s6 and s6 edge i had got hot too but the note 5 didnt and its same chip i think
latech4832 said:
The mine overheats just read my email, reach more than 100 degrees Fahrenheit, that is definitely not normal
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yup mine was 100 after sending a few texts and web browsing i was like why is my hand on fire!!?!?
latech4832 said:
Hello everyone
Yesterday I received my Moto X pure Edition, after 3 hour of charge I transfer all of my files and stuff from my old Nexus 5. After a few minutes of use I noticed that the phone started to overheat excessively (110 farenheit) and the battery only lasted 3 hours, I did a complete reset of the phone but the same result overheat after 15 minutes of use.
I replaced/updated the play services software and same thing.
Someone has the same problem???
Please Advice...
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It's the Media Scanner service. Because you added all that media from the Nexus 5 it had to be indexed. Once done, it will settle down and be OK.
This is some information I found in another thread:
"For each file and directory it finds it creates an entry in the so-called Android Media Store. For special file types like images, videos and music files it also scans for meta data like EXIF information for images and mp3 tags for music files. Applications may query the Media Store to find specific files bases on the file type or meta data. Well known applications that do so are the Gallery and the Music Player. Other applications may also do so.
The media scanner runs as a background service and is not visible to the user. "