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Hi,
I want to buy an android tablette and I found that the note 10.1 is good, but as it appeared almosr a year now, is it outdated? Should I wait for the next generation, and will be a next generation soon?
Thanks.
igos2 said:
Hi,
I want to buy an android tablette and I found that the note 10.1 is good, but as it appeared almosr a year now, is it outdated? Should I wait for the next generation, and will be a next generation soon?
Thanks.
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Own two of em for about 4 months and just bought 1 more. finest tablets of my collection. They hold there price and with 2 gigs of ram, pretty sweet device. I own several 10inch tabs and this is the best. Running stock no root and zero problems.
Quite outdated. Wait for the announcement in June. It is already June anyway
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I have 2 I like them. But if you need the best you will be chasing it forever. This thing is tried and true. Does all I need
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A reasonable assumption is that the next generation will be an incremental upgrade, faster processor, more pixels in camera and screen, question you need to answer is that something you NEED or is it something you WANT? I use mine for note taking, surfing and some posting on fora. So in my case those improvements won't really matter, my choke point is the connection to the net, hence the truth is that while I might want those improvements I don't really need them.
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I bought this one just a week back .I waited till google I/O to find if the announce a new Nexus 7 - as I wanted a rear camera.Then note 10.1 was the choice ,although more expensive than nexus 7 3G (I paid ~ $465 in Dubai), Its worth.It is with future proof spec .A full HD screen would have been a plus point , But most apps / videos are at HD level (720P) , So I don't see much difference.:good:
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A reasonable assumption is that the next generation will be an incremental upgrade, faster processor, more pixels in camera and screen, question you need to answer is that something you NEED or is it something you WANT? I use mine for note taking, surfing and some posting on fora. So in my case those improvements won't really matter, my choke point is the connection to the net, hence the truth is that while I might want those improvements I don't really need them.
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I doubt that anyone NEED a phone or a tablet to survive.
However I am looking forward to upgrades such as
- Higher resolution screen. Don't give a dam about retina or apple, but my note 2 has the same resolution as my note 10.1. and it just feels blurry on my tablet relatively. Inking with lecturenotes and ezpdfreader don't seem to have smooth edges.
- Can someone please explain why it takes an hour to transfer a 200MB video via bluetooth?
- Occasional choppiness and lag compare to note 2. A faster CPU should help.
- Out of RAM (Don't know why, but 2Gb isn't enough for me)
- Laughable camera
- I think having NFC will be cool, especially for simple stuff like bumping to transfer a photo. I like the Sony idea of pairing with portable speakers too.
- Further reduce weight? Prefer as light as possible as I commute with it every weekday. (well unlikely that Sammy cares)
- Better S Pen API and developer support. Most third party apps with digitizer are honestly disappointing .
- FIX S Note. Stop crashing. Stop sync erroring. Stop locking up half of my notes for no reason. Stop losing my notes. Stop zooming with the touch of my palm even though I selected pen input only. Stop changing to default background when I add a new page. Stop all sorts of irritating garbage that forced me to use lecture notes.
- Multitasking works now and is less buggy. But demanding applications do significantly slow down and become less responsive. like officesuite. Faster CPU should help
Find it fine, as was stated before you need to eventually bite the bullet and get something or you'll be chasing the bigger better tablet forever....
In this day and age 6 months is obsolete, if not faster, so waiting for a new thing to come out, then waiting so its not too expensive means that you will never get that tablet you want/need because there's always better on the horizon...
What's the saying, give them bread today and they're happy today but promise them cake tomorrow and they'll go for another day...
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I doubt that anyone NEED a phone or a tablet to survive.
However I am looking forward to upgrades such as
- Higher resolution screen. Don't give a dam about retina or apple, but my note 2 has the same resolution as my note 10.1. and it just feels blurry on my tablet relatively. Inking with lecturenotes and ezpdfreader don't seem to have smooth edges.
- Can someone please explain why it takes an hour to transfer a 200MB video via bluetooth?
- Occasional choppiness and lag compare to note 2. A faster CPU should help.
- Out of RAM (Don't know why, but 2Gb isn't enough for me)
- Laughable camera
- I think having NFC will be cool, especially for simple stuff like bumping to transfer a photo. I like the Sony idea of pairing with portable speakers too.
- Further reduce weight? Prefer as light as possible as I commute with it every weekday. (well unlikely that Sammy cares)
- Better S Pen API and developer support. Most third party apps with digitizer are honestly disappointing .
- FIX S Note. Stop crashing. Stop sync erroring. Stop locking up half of my notes for no reason. Stop losing my notes. Stop zooming with the touch of my palm even though I selected pen input only. Stop changing to default background when I add a new page. Stop all sorts of irritating garbage that forced me to use lecture notes.
- Multitasking works now and is less buggy. But demanding applications do significantly slow down and become less responsive. like officesuite. Faster CPU should help
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2GB isn't enough? What do you use your tablet for?
Thank you for the answers all.. I agree with you all, the pros and cons..
Let's talk about the price, the Note 10.1 3G I have found is about 500$, what do you think would be the price of a future Note is it's first weeks?
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Find it fine, as was stated before you need to eventually bite the bullet and get something or you'll be chasing the bigger better tablet forever....
In this day and age 6 months is obsolete, if not faster, so waiting for a new thing to come out, then waiting so its not too expensive means that you will never get that tablet you want/need because there's always better on the horizon...
What's the saying, give them bread today and they're happy today but promise them cake tomorrow and they'll go for another day...
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I see it as improvement every year, which is a good thing for the customer. Rumours suggest the successor of 10.1 will be announced in June. So chances are people are patient enough. Of course it is your right to buy it now and feel obsolete within a month. Usually I am happy to wait between 1-3 months. More than that I will just buy it now. No regrets and no hard feelings.
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2GB isn't enough? What do you use your tablet for?
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Widgets accumulate quite a lot. Live Wallpaper. Kaspersky is another ram hogger. Launch a few intensive apps and try multitasking, there goes my 2 gb ram. Why do you seem so surprise when one game on Google Play from Gameloft could be 3 Gb in total size and take proportionally significant RAM?
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igos2 said:
Thank you for the answers all.. I agree with you all, the pros and cons..
Let's talk about the price, the Note 10.1 3G I have found is about 500$, what do you think would be the price of a future Note is it's first weeks?
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I think that is the price point Sammy gona stick with. That is, sell the new 10.1 for 500 dollars (if that's the price for ur country) and bump the old note price down
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2GB isn't enough? What do you use your tablet for?
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haha, indeed. 2GB is more than enough. Sounds like that Note 10.1 has some problems, because I don't recall any lag nor crashing on my device. S note works very well and camera is also usable, much better than Note 8.0, which is weird.
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Forget $500 now, what was the price back in August last year? That's what the price will be for the new Note.... I paid $800 for a 32gb N8000... Was the best price around. I don't know what the price for it would be now as the ONLY versions left seem to be the 16gb N8000.. They're around the $500 mark but were $650 when 1st released....
Wifi only different prices again....
It is outdated but still a better tablet than many others on the market. The main thing is a low res screen but given that cpus at the time could not support 1080p properly , 720p screen was the right decision.
Another thing I find is that 16gb internal memory is not enough (and I believe there were no other options at the time of release)
Cant wait to upgrade though.
Following samsung 's pattern though, the 16gb will be released and the 32gb will be released about 1 - 2 months later... 64gb is a myth....
What these manufacturer's need to understand is that because of the extras they throw in, the OS is using more and more space. My SGS3 used up 5gb for the system os but the SGS4 is now using 7gb... I know its only 3gb more but when memory is an issue that is huge....
Who knows what will be introduced (not released) in June. If there is a tablet, everything I've hear says that it will be a Tab 3 10.1, basically with a slightly faster CPU than the Note 10.1 but with a slightly lesser camera and the same resolution. Hold me back. While I'm lukewarm about the resolution on the Note 10.1, and its camera pretty much sucks out loud (what Sammy tab cameras don't?), it's still a great tab and not at all "outdated."
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Who knows what will be introduced (not released) in June. If there is a tablet, everything I've hear says that it will be a Tab 3 10.1, basically with a slightly faster CPU than the Note 10.1 but with a slightly lesser camera and the same resolution. Hold me back. While I'm lukewarm about the resolution on the Note 10.1, and its camera pretty much sucks out loud (what Sammy tab cameras don't?), it's still a great tab and not at all "outdated."
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Yes why can't they put better cameras on tabs. Anyhow, I find Note 10.1 camera fairly usable in good light and for Skyping no problem. But in the new Note 8.0 is much worse...
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I bought the note 10.1 and a week later returned it. On a stock Rom and custom one I felt the performance to be sub par especially when compared to an iPad. Scrolling through apps was often choppy and I felt like for the premium cost it should be smoother plus a lot of the apps I used aren't optimized for tablets. So I'm waiting to see what's going to be released in June but in the meantime I'm seriously considering the Surface RT
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lol. there is nothing choppy on 4.1.2 . smooth as butter and nowhere behind ipad, surface or any other tablet. screen resolution is subpar but you have an active stylus.
best tablet ever for productivity !
maybe the new windwos tablets are going to be better since they support active pens and you can use onenote, mathlab and other important apps. however these windows tablets cost twice the amount of money in comparison to a note 10.1
Yeah dude I dunno, I'm a fan of Android for sure. I got a Note 2 and love it, and I thought I would love the 10.1 but compared to the experience I get on the phone and what I get on the iPad (3rd gen) the note 10.1 was choppy even with 4.1.2.
I even rooted it installed a rom and it still felt choppy even within native apps like the calendar. I choose it over other tablets because of the S-Pen but honestly as much as I think I would use it, I never do.
So now I think I would value the Microsoft office suite and a desktop class internet browser found in the surface over an android tablet, especially when android system updates rarely happen and most android apps are not optimized for larger screens.
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Are you going to purchase the Note 10.1 2014 Edition to replace your Note 10.1? I'm still undecided.
Nop.
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Are you going to purchase the Note 10.1 2014 Edition to replace your Note 10.1? I'm still undecided.
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I'm thinking about it.
This is the 1st Samsung tablet that I've been interested in in quite some time. The glossy plastic finish, relatively low resolution and the high price kept me from even considering the previous Note 10.1. The 2014 Note 10.1 has already addressed 2 out of 3 of those negatives. Price is the last detail I'd need before taking the Note 10.1 2014 seriously.
Angus66 said:
I'm thinking about it.
This is the 1st Samsung tablet that I've been interested in in quite some time. The glossy plastic finish, relatively low resolution and the high price kept me from even considering the previous Note 10.1. The 2014 Note 10.1 has already addressed 2 out of 3 of those negatives. Price is the last detail I'd need before taking the Note 10.1 2014 seriously.
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Let me make my home here, I'll be getting this. Looking for the 64GB version.
Definately getting it, just not sure which version to get. 4G is no big deal to me, so it will all come to CPU/GPU performance between the two versions.
I bought mine back in March and it's the 2nd most expensive gadget that I own... I can't justify buying a new one at the moment. Not a huge fan of the new aesthetics, though; the home button ruins the flush design they had going, and they should have left the front-facing speakers! But the 2014 version's hardware specs are sooo much better, gahhhh! Glad to see that Sammy is also coming out with a 64GB version with expandable memory.
I'll wait one more year or so and see what happens, especially now that Wacom is coming out with their own (highly overpriced) tablets to compete.
90% no and 10% yes
The new cpu and gpu is impressive and the screen resolution improved but i just bought my note from about 6 moths and it is expensive and it is performing well ... I may change my note with nexus 10 and may not and i want to know how the new nexus would look like and its specs , only one situation 100% i would change my note which is if it not get updated to 4.3 + the new note 10.1 design i dont like it only its leather back and its sides
May i going to get note 10.1 2015 edition of next year who knows
Although I really like the new specs and goodies, I just can't get over the home button. And, if our notes get the software and s-pen oriented improvements via updates, then I'll happily keep mine.
It really boils down to price for me. If they don't make the price too high then I will get this, otherwise I'm going with the new nexus 10.
Definitely getting it! The only complain that I had with the current version is the screen resolution (especially if you zoom in to any S-Note files), and the new screen will be perfect for notes, drawing, etc. The new design looks a lot better than the current one (I don't mind the home button and losing speakers to the sides - at least they are not at the bottom or in the back). This definitely looks more refined.
Yes hope they actually relese the 64 gig version this time, the custom sketchbook pro app and screen res make it great for art hard to beat that.
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Only had my Note for a few months so no. It works great, I've not been disappointed with performance and resolution. Will hold on for a future model.
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Nope. Dropped $500 on this less than a year ago, and serves all my needs and purposes.
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no not me becasue
1.i cant afford another one this it self is way beyond my buget
2.im quite happy with this one it servs my purpose mostly used for my wife who plays games on it :good::laugh:
i would be happy if we get the update and be able to move games to the SD that is good enough for me :good::laugh:
I'm leaning toward getting this.. looking to replace my Asus TF201. I like the specs on the Samsung.. but I'm not pulling the trigger until I can play with one and see how I like the feel of it and its screen, audio volume, etc.,..
I held back on buying the 10.1 like 3 months ago so I'm definitely getting this. Just deciding between the Wifi or LTE version and the memory size. I hope the release the 64GB from launch date.
I will buy the new Note 10.1 2014 but i will replace my Nexus7.
I love the multiwindows and the small/floating app.
This tablet is perfect for my school/study
I have only to wait the price...
Most likely. I need a nice tablet for school and study and this would be perfect.
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Most likely. I need a nice tablet for school and study and this would be perfect.
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I'm thinking this is the best!
I always hated Samsung for their phones, but this tablet is the best atm.
For school in advance!
Im getting it as soon as I can find a 3g 32GB model. Hope they release all sizes/variants together. I always wanted the 3g 32GB version of this note, but never found it in stock anywhere...
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Just like the title,which one you would prefer?
What I can see,the big upgrade from Mini 1 to Mini 2 is the display.It is now the so called retina display.But I think Mini 2 will cannibalize iPad Air because the only drawback in Mini 1 is display.
Nexus 7, all the benefits of a small tablet, better than retina screen, and no retarded apple closed garden
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Nothing better than the openness of android, and the possibilities that it can bring.
Plus I love widgets, way more convenient than rows and columns of icons laying on the home screen.
Plus I love swype typing.
Plus I'm a poor college student.
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Nexus 7, all the benefits of a small tablet, better than retina screen, and no retarded apple closed garden
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I like android as much as everyone here, but saying the N7 display is better than the apple retina display is just borderline mental...
and why compare something that's 2x the cost? how is that even fair...? If the N7 is $400, I'm pretty sure Google would've crammed better stuff into the tablet to compete with others around the $400 price range.
Well, this is kind of a biased question - most people here will be Nexus 7 fans (you know - we bought one).
That being said...
The cheapest Retina iPad mini is the 16GB WiFi at $400.
The 32 GB Nexus 7 + LTE is $350.
The closest equivalent iPad mini is $630...
That kind of sums it up for me.
I also prefer the N7's smaller size. I can carry it in my jacket pocket. I can't do that with the iPad mini. If I want to carry a bag - I'll carry a full sized tablet.
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I like android as much as everyone here, but saying the N7 display is better than the apple retina display is just borderline mental...
and why compare something that's 2x the cost? how is that even fair...? If the N7 is $400, I'm pretty sure Google would've crammed better stuff into the tablet to compete with others around the $400 price range.
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It's a fair comparison - they're both aimed at the same end users - people who want small, highly portable tablets.
As for the retina display being better - exactly what are your criteria for this? The N7 has a slightly lower DPI than the Retina iPad mini (319 vs 326). The mini has more actual pixels, but it's actually a larger screen (7.9 vs 7.0).
You're also arguing sort of backwards... you're suggesting that if the N7 were more expensive, it would have more in it (and thus be better competition for the iPad mini, I'm assuming). Except that's a weird way to look at it. The N7+LTE already is significantly cheaper than the nearest equivalent Retina iPad mini and offers a similar set of features. But if you drop down to the N7 you get more features - GPS is included.
The CPU in the Retina iPad mini is more powerful, but we've yet to see meaningful benchmarks to show that this translates into anything meaningful for the use. The whole 64bit vs 32bit is mostly smoke at the moment since almost nothing uses it.
And now that Android support BTLE, more and more companies are making Android apps for their BT devices, so we're catching up there.
The Retina iPad mini isn't a bad device, but it's simply not 80% better than the N7.
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It's a fair comparison - they're both aimed at the same end users - people who want small, highly portable tablets.
As for the retina display being better - exactly what are your criteria for this? The N7 has a slightly lower DPI than the Retina iPad mini (319 vs 326). The mini has more actual pixels, but it's actually a larger screen (7.9 vs 7.0).
You're also arguing sort of backwards... you're suggesting that if the N7 were more expensive, it would have more in it (and thus be better competition for the iPad mini, I'm assuming). Except that's a weird way to look at it. The N7+LTE already is significantly cheaper than the nearest equivalent Retina iPad mini and offers a similar set of features. But if you drop down to the N7 you get more features - GPS is included.
The CPU in the Retina iPad mini is more powerful, but we've yet to see meaningful benchmarks to show that this translates into anything meaningful for the use. The whole 64bit vs 32bit is mostly smoke at the moment since almost nothing uses it.
And now that Android support BTLE, more and more companies are making Android apps for their BT devices, so we're catching up there.
The Retina iPad mini isn't a bad device, but it's simply not 80% better than the N7.
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Lol...seriously? I can't....here you win.
As a fomer owner of all the iPad generations(til' 4th), I assure you no iPad will ever "seduce" me again with these "pretty" marketing money-grabbing devices. No way I'm going back to a closed OS... not after getting use to the liberty I have with Android, plus the Nexus 7 has really respectful features even thou is $100 cheaper.
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Well, this is kind of a biased question - most people here will be Nexus 7 fans (you know - we bought one).
That being said...
The cheapest Retina iPad mini is the 16GB WiFi at $400.
The 32 GB Nexus 7 + LTE is $350.
The closest equivalent iPad mini is $630...
That kind of sums it up for me.
I also prefer the N7's smaller size. I can carry it in my jacket pocket. I can't do that with the iPad mini. If I want to carry a bag - I'll carry a full sized tablet.
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It's a fair comparison - they're both aimed at the same end users - people who want small, highly portable tablets.
As for the retina display being better - exactly what are your criteria for this? The N7 has a slightly lower DPI than the Retina iPad mini (319 vs 326). The mini has more actual pixels, but it's actually a larger screen (7.9 vs 7.0).
You're also arguing sort of backwards... you're suggesting that if the N7 were more expensive, it would have more in it (and thus be better competition for the iPad mini, I'm assuming). Except that's a weird way to look at it. The N7+LTE already is significantly cheaper than the nearest equivalent Retina iPad mini and offers a similar set of features. But if you drop down to the N7 you get more features - GPS is included.
The CPU in the Retina iPad mini is more powerful, but we've yet to see meaningful benchmarks to show that this translates into anything meaningful for the use. The whole 64bit vs 32bit is mostly smoke at the moment since almost nothing uses it.
And now that Android support BTLE, more and more companies are making Android apps for their BT devices, so we're catching up there.
The Retina iPad mini isn't a bad device, but it's simply not 80% better than the N7.
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+1. When I was trying to thank and reply to you, I accidentally thanked the person above you. Only way I could reply to you was by long pressing the post below yours. Wtf.
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Isn't nexus 7 PPI 323 vs apple iPad mini retina of 324? I would be surprised if anyone can tell the diff
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Isn't nexus 7 PPI 323 vs apple iPad mini retina of 324? I would be surprised if anyone can tell the diff
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Official specs from the apple store say 326 for the iPad Mini 2 and google play store says 323 for the Nexus 7-2. But my favorite PPI calculator website (http://members.ping.de/~sven/dpi.html) says 324 for the iPad Mini 2. Might be that their display is actually a hair different than 7.9" (wasn't it 7.85"?) which would make it 326 again. Anyway, they are virtually identical. If you are interested in a larger display, Apple will give you that with the iPad Mini. But I'm pretty sure 8" high-res displays from Android makers are just around the corner, too.
Hardware is on par for these devices in my book. Nexus 7 is much cheaper still. So it comes down to your preference of iOS and the larger footprint.
IPad weight 40g more... No gps, no wireless charging and cost more for less.
Sweet!
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I would prefer the LG g pad...
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IPad ... No gps
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I didn't believe you at first. I had to go check. I can see the reasoning behind not including GPS, but I think it's flawed. So much for offline navigation apps.
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Official specs from the apple store say 326 for the iPad Mini 2 and google play store says 323 for the Nexus 7-2. But my favorite PPI calculator website (http://members.ping.de/~sven/dpi.html) says 324 for the iPad Mini 2. Might be that their display is actually a hair different than 7.9" (wasn't it 7.85"?) which would make it 326 again. Anyway, they are virtually identical. If you are interested in a larger display, Apple will give you that with the iPad Mini. But I'm pretty sure 8" high-res displays from Android makers are just around the corner, too.
Hardware is on par for these devices in my book. Nexus 7 is much cheaper still. So it comes down to your preference of iOS and the larger footprint.
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The big difference is the A7 processor found in the mini2. Although the N7s S4 Pro is good, the A7 is probably twice as fast.
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The iPad mini got thicker and heavier. lol
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The big difference is the A7 processor found in the mini2. Although the N7s S4 Pro is good, the A7 is probably twice as fast.
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Display consumption is better for the nexus 7, i saw in battery thread that someone reach 24h of screen on time in one charge.
With the ipad mini i think it's juste about 12hours in same condition.
500mb iPad mini 2
2gb nexus 7
Ipad mini 2 has better screen, looks, processor, apps. N7 scores everywhere else.
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Ipad mini 2 has better screen, looks, processor, apps. N7 scores everywhere else.
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Screen, debatable(hard for human eye to notice the ppi difference), looks, debatable(your personal preference), processor, yes(A7 supposedly is better), apps, debatable(depending on which apps you really use).
At the end is mostly about what you prefer
Hardware wise:
I prefer 16:10 over 4:3, better HD video playback experience. Other users might prefer 4:3
Nexus 7 is going to be significantly narrower & lighter, easier to hold single handed and can go into jacket pockets easier
Battery life should be about equal, although I have confidence Nexus 7 would come out ahead(as it already beats non-retina Mini)
Software wise:
Widgets, Launchers etc makes the Android Homescreen experience much more customization and enjoyable imo.
The openess of a Nexus 7 to ran various ROMs & kernels in addition to AOSP, something closed iOS can't compete.
Plus the Price difference of $170 ($229 vs $399)
Unless you really need a 7.9" 4:3 Tablet, I don't see how Ipad Mini appeals over Nexus 7. If you view Nexus 7 is too small, there are other HD android tablet such as the LG Gpad 8.3 (Pity its ppi is a bit lower and it isn't a Nexus).
170$ plus Tax...
So around 200$ difference.... Urgh,!
Samsung just released their new tablets that 8 inch looks interesting to me depends on price however. How does it compare to gpad for you ?
http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/06/samsung-galaxy-tab-pro-series-2014/
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/01/06/samsung-galaxy-tab-pro-lineup-revealed/
Makes me question my gpad purchase but for the specs it might cost a lot more.
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Samsung just released their new tablets that 8 inch looks interesting to me depends on price however. How does it compare to gpad for you ?
http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/06/samsung-galaxy-tab-pro-series-2014/
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/01/06/samsung-galaxy-tab-pro-lineup-revealed/
Makes me question my gpad purchase but for the specs it might cost a lot more.
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I'm still happy with my purchase and the deal I got on it ($259 USD via Newegg). The Samsung Pro 8.4 is the only one that makes me blink. Faster chip, good. Marginally larger battery to deal with the screen, bad. Touchwiz, higher resolution screen, meh. The G Pad, for its meager shortcomings, offers a heckuva lot of bang for the buck, at the price I got it anyway. Not regretting it!
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I'm still happy with my purchase and the deal I got on it ($259 USD via Newegg). The Samsung Pro 8.4 is the only one that makes me blink. Faster chip, good. Marginally larger battery to deal with the screen, bad. Touchwiz, higher resolution screen, meh. The G Pad, for its meager shortcomings, offers a heckuva lot of bang for the buck, at the price I got it anyway. Not regretting it!
Mark
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Lol yeah I missed that deal I live in New jersey so payed tax $300 so if it's around $300 -$350 I would be all for it lol. My gpad comes tomorrow so well see I guess. It should have pretty good development support and accessories.
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I feel the same. The 8.4 inch display model is pretty sweet.. Pricing may be a bit higher, so again.. I wouldn't buy it just cause of that. And the 3 hardware buttons on the front is a no go. It's old and I don't like it as much as having a blank screen where it's just me and the screen/movie/book.. The over all design looks good ol' fashion Samsung. Looks sturdy and has kindof a Galaxy S2 feel to it. The S2 was the best mobile phone I've ever had. Damn a lot of stuff happened back then. But yeah, looks like a decent tablet. But I think I'll be quite happy with the G Pad still, since it does have what I'm looking for in a nice, cheap package and decent build quality.
The Samsung Exynos 5 Octa CPU is a new gen processor which samsung tries to make it use all eight cores at once. If a tablet with that chip comes out it will surely be very powerful and definitely better than gpad.
As long as Samsung uses a home button i will never buy again.I'm very happy with the pad.
The new Touch Wiz looks really awful. I don't even know what they're thinking. It's like they want it to work and look like Windows 8 but don't want to use Windows 8. Personally I wouldn't touch the new tabs with a 10 foot pole.
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The new Touch Wiz looks really awful. I don't even know what they're thinking. It's like they want it to work and look like Windows 8 but don't want to use Windows 8. Personally I wouldn't touch the new tabs with a 10 foot pole.
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They can't help them self's.They always need to add a little from other oem's
I am an owner of note 10.1 2012 ..... I am looking up to
Change my tab as there is no updates for it at all ... Till now it is on version 4.1.2 and it is 100% guaranteed now after these pro tablets unveiled there will be no updates for the older devices ... I wont buy any of these new pro tablets because of the price firstly and in the future they will be thrown to the dust like my note 10.1 now ..... Also i am thinking of getting lg g pad 8.3 but no software updates like my current note and lack of dev support keeps me away
I'd be very surprised if the 8.4 was less than $399. I'm sure Samsung considers it to be fully equivalent to the newest iPad mini. Samsung used to compete on price but no more. When I bought my first plasma TV in 2007 Samsung was a much better deal than Panasonic or Pioneer. When it came time to buy another one last year I thought Samsung was too expensive and bought an LG I'm very happy with.
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If they're "too perfect to root", no thanks.
naruto.ninjakid said:
Samsung just released their new tablets that 8 inch looks interesting to me depends on price however. How does it compare to gpad for you ?
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Quite simply, I am going to switch to a Tab Pro 8.4 as soon as it is available.
It has a way better display, it has NFC (which I miss), it's way more powerful (G Pad is pretty slow), it has a polycarbonate back (I dislike the faux leather, I would much rather have a rubber back like the Nexus 7 2013 or the old Samsung HyperGlaze but anything is WAY, WAY better than effing METAL!!!!) and the Samsung one is the best version of Android around (MultiWindow *alone* would do it for me).
I can't wait to get my hands on it.
P.S. Actually, the ONLY reason I am interested in mid-sized tablets (8"/8.5") is WEIGHT.
Anything beyond 350/400 grams is simply too heavy to be ergonomic and truly comfortable for extended use.
The new Samsung Tab Pro 10.1" is 469grams and I am planning on trying it out with the intention of switching back to a 10.1"...
Ideally, my perfect tablet would be something like the Note Pro 12.2" but would weigh no more than 400 grams with an all-day battery life... (which is, of course, not technically possible. YET).
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Quite simply, I am going to switch to a Tab Pro 8.4 as soon as it is available.
It has a way better display, it has NFC (which I miss), it's way more powerful (G Pad is pretty slow), it has a polycarbonate back (I dislike the faux leather, I would much rather have a rubber back like the Nexus 7 2013 or the old Samsung HyperGlaze but anything is WAY, WAY better than effing METAL!!!!) and the Samsung one is the best version of Android around (MultiWindow *alone* would do it for me).
I can't wait to get my hands on it.
P.S. Actually, the ONLY reason I am interested in mid-sized tablets (8"/8.5") is WEIGHT.
Anything beyond 350/400 grams is simply too heavy to be ergonomic and truly comfortable for extended use.
The new Samsung Tab Pro 10.1" is 469grams and I am planning on trying it out with the intention of switching back to a 10.1"...
Ideally, my perfect tablet would be something like the Note Pro 12.2" but would weigh no more than 400 grams with an all-day battery life... (which is, of course, not technically possible. YET).
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Pretty Slow? Try CM 11, Stock is slow. Switching from G Pad to Notepro 8.4 seems useless to me.
I am sort of disappointed that the G Pad is no longer the best 8 incher but it's still pretty great so its fine...
I doubt I will bite. I like my LG 8.3 GPE a lot. Samsung does this to me every year: announce something that captures my imagination, I'm intrigued, I convince myself it will be at a palatable price point, and then finally delivers something I consider too expensive and doesn't hit the sweet spot for my tastes.
I do own a Galaxy Note 10.1, and I love it. But the 2014 edition left me a bit cold.
I doubt I will dip into these waters again, probably just upgrading to a new Nexus 10 when the timing feels right.
I'm very happy with my G Pad and won't switch. If the Samsung 8.4 was available a couple of weeks ago at a competitive price I would have taken it, simply due to previous experience with both LG and Samsung phones. I like the idea of hard buttons on the bezel - means more screen space. There will also be more development on the Samsung tablets.
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Pretty Slow? Try CM 11, Stock is slow.
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The G Pad with CM11 or the G Pad GPE are surely faster but you would have to give up, among other things, Knock On, the IR Remote and full SDcard support and those are huge deal breakers for me.
True, LG's ROM is most certainly slower and laggier than stock Android but it's also way more feature complete (which is probably also *why* is slower...). Features that I do use.
Besides the ones just mentioned, there are dozens of things like Quickmemo, the overlay apps (QSlide), the keyboard with the numbers row, the volume and brightness sliders and on and on...
Switching from G Pad to Notepro 8.4 seems useless to me.
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As I said: way better display, NFC, way more powerful (while being even more feature rich), polycarbonate back, Samsung SW (MultiWindow above all).
I also forgot to mention that notwithstanding pretty much identical size and weight, the display is sensibly bigger on the Tab Pro as it's not only 0.1" physically bigger but it also doesn't have virtual buttons taking up screen real estate.
So, far from "useless"... The money I will lose selling the G Pad and buying the Tab Pro is really a very small price to pay for such a big upgrade.
P.S. I am not dissing my G Pad, still like it a lot and still think it's the overall best mid-size tablet on the market right now.
I have no intentions of switching as i really love this lg. I also suspect that these new Pro models will not be cheap. For my uses the lg is plenty fast and smooth. And since a tablet is just entertainment for me, there is only so much any tablet is worth and i bet these new Samsung tablets will exceed that price.
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What Rom will it come with? I've learned to only buy with Qualcomm cpus because they get the best long-term support. There's a chance that the Qualcomm ones are only for lte support....
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The G Pad with CM11 or the G Pad GPE are surely faster but you would have to give up, among other things, Knock On, the IR Remote and full SDcard support and those are huge deal breakers for me.
True, LG's ROM is most certainly slower and laggier than stock Android but it's also way more feature complete (which is probably also *why* is slower...). Features that I do use.
Besides the ones just mentioned, there are dozens of things like Quickmemo, the overlay apps (QSlide), the keyboard with the numbers row, the volume and brightness sliders and on and on...
As I said: way better display, NFC, way more powerful (while being even more feature rich), polycarbonate back, Samsung SW (MultiWindow above all).
I also forgot to mention that notwithstanding pretty much identical size and weight, the display is sensibly bigger on the Tab Pro as it's not only 0.1" physically bigger but it also doesn't have virtual buttons taking up screen real estate.
So, far from "useless"... The money I will lose selling the G Pad and buying the Tab Pro is really a very small price to pay for such a big upgrade.
P.S. I am not dissing my G Pad, still like it a lot and still think it's the overall best mid-size tablet on the market right now.
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Great to hear you're not dissinf the G Pad!
You said switching to a notepro 8.4 would be a small price to pay, but you have no idea how much its going to cost. I bet at least 400.
BTW, knock on works just fine on CM 11. IR support is missing, haven't tried a SD card. Is it not going to work? Oh, and be sure the new bloated "pro" touchwiz will be slower than the lg rom.
Well...
Looks Like our family is expecting 2 new members..
The 2014 LG - V400 & V700 as of this writing are passing through the FCC.. I could be dead wrong but the V400 sounds like a 7" tablet and the V700 possibly a 10 - 12" device.
How do you feel about adding or upgrading to one of these units? has the V500/V510 been pretty much what you expected? Or maybe a better question would be.. Has LG met your expectations to a level that you would consider purchasing an LG tablet again? I would say it's a given that the V700 will be packing the Snapdragon 801/805 3gigs of Ram and possibly that 2K display that's coming on the LG-G3.. is that enough muscle to tempt you to upgrade from the V500?
While I have only had it a week, I am suitably impressed enough with the Gpad 8.3 to choose LG over Samsung for my next phone/tablet purchase.
With all the recent deeply discounted sales, and the discontinuation at Best Buy, it's quite possible that one of these new tablets is an 8.3 upgrade. If that's the case, I'm only semi-interested. A reboot will cost $350 (or more?) again, and I'm very happy with my 8.3. After all, I don't use it for anything I feel it's lacking in right now. Graphically-intense games (Asphalt 8, Soulcalibur), work fine, videos look great (and a 4K screen would be wasted), and browsing and ebooks don't exactly require a powerhouse. An 801 or 805 Snapdragon powered 8.3 with 3gb of RAM and a quadHD screen would be cool and all, but I don't need that.
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Well...
Looks Like our family is expecting 2 new members..
The 2014 LG - V400 & V700 as of this writing are passing through the FCC.. I could be dead wrong but the V400 sounds like a 7" tablet and the V700 possibly a 10 - 12" device.
How do you feel about adding or upgrading to one of these units? has the V500/V510 been pretty much what you expected? Or maybe a better question would be.. Has LG met your expectations to a level that you would consider purchasing an LG tablet again? I would say it's a given that the V700 will be packing the Snapdragon 801/805 3gigs of Ram and possibly that 2K display that's coming on the LG-G3.. is that enough muscle to tempt you to upgrade from the V500?
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I already know from experience that 7 is on the small end for me, and since reading is a big factor for me, 10 inches would be too big. Right now, this is the perfect form factor for me. I might consider a 10-incher for more online reading/browsing I suppose, but only as a complement, not a replacement. To be clear, I do not consider a different size as an upgrade no matter what the performance improvements.
I thoroughly love this tablet, so yes, i would gladly buy LG again, and certainly recommend it. I think there is nothing close to it in terms of price/performance right now. The only think I might really wish for is greater battery life, or a brighter screen for sunlight use, but even then, it is not a deal breaker.
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While I have only had it a week, I am suitably impressed enough with the Gpad 8.3 to choose LG over Samsung for my next phone/tablet purchase.
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same here. I was an original LG G2x owner that everybody knows what a freaking mess that was. The worst phone I ever owned. So i stayed away from LG. But then I decided to buy LG pad and love it so far. waiting to see what LG g3 will look like.
NO wonder it has been on a fire sale for $230 this past week. My Pad is coming next week. 7" is too small and 10" or more is too big. 8" is perfect.
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NO wonder it has been on a fire sale for $230 this past week. My Pad is coming next week. 7" is too small and 10" or more is too big. 8" is perfect.
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Until there's a rock solid ~8.9" offering, ideally a Nexus or GPE, I'll stick with my G Pad GPE (daily driver) and my Nook HD+ (really only used as a comic reader now). I'm hoping the rumors of a Nexus 8.9 later this year are true and that the price is right.
As for the V510, there is no reason to change/upgrade. The screen size is perfect, and everything is damn near instantaneous in opening and response. The kernel needed some tweaking, and there are still a few items missing, but not enough to warrant bothering with it. I'm guessing at this point I will keep this tablet until the screen on a new one allows full sun reading and a foldable device that weighs considerably less. Anything else is just fluff.
Funny that I may not have too long to wait.
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7" is too small and 10" or more is too big. 8" is perfect.
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Said the actress to the bishop...
chong67 said:
NO wonder it has been on a fire sale for $230 this past week. My Pad is coming next week. 7" is too small and 10" or more is too big. 8" is perfect.
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I think most will agree.. 8 inches is the *Goldie Locks* Sweet Spot for tablet size..
But.. I also think the allure of a Higher Res Screen 1920 x 1080 to 2560 x 1600 (2K Resolution) and a jump from 1.7 GHz to 2.5GHz and the promise of Key-Lime Pie 4.5/5.0 out of the box or with a swift update this fall, will be enough to change a lot of our minds..
By then, the pressure of the Nexus-8 and maybe even an updated Galaxy Note 8.4 will have a lot of us re-thinking how we feel at this moment..
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I think most will agree.. 8 inches is the *Goldie Locks* Sweet Spot for tablet size..
But.. I also think the allure of a Higher Res Screen 1920 x 1080 to 2560 x 1600 (2K Resolution) and a jump from 1.7 GHz to 2.5GHz and the promise of Key-Lime Pie 4.5/5.0 out of the box or with a swift update this fall, will be enough to change a lot of our minds..
By then, the pressure of the Nexus-8 and maybe even an updated Galaxy Note 8.4 will have a lot of us re-thinking how we feel at this moment..
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Nexus 8 is still just a rumor, and the updated Galaxy Note is low res, so no chance. As to the Tab Pro specs, here's the thing: I paid $213 for the G Pad and am very happy with it. The Tab Pro is nice, but aside from some incremental improvements (the G Pad already has a Retina display as per Apple's own definition), things like the pen, or improved camera are of no interest to me. Truly NONE.
I am not a graphic artist, and I barely do any handwriting nowadays, though I write for a living. As to the rear camera, I have never even used it once, since my go-to camera is my LG G2, and for more serious pictures, I have more serious equipment. The front camera is more than good enough for video Skyping.
So do I think the faster CPU, and higher resolution screen are worth an extra $150? Nope.
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Nexus 8 is still just a rumor, and the updated Galaxy Note is low res, so no chance. As to the Tab Pro specs, here's the thing: I paid $213 for the G Pad and am very happy with it. things like the pen, or improved camera are of no interest to me. Truly NONE.
I am not a graphic artist, and I barely do any handwriting nowadays, though I write for a living. As to the rear camera, I have never even used it once, since my go-to camera is my LG G2, and for more serious pictures, I have more serious equipment. The front camera is more than good enough for video Skyping.
So do I think the faster CPU, and higher resolution screen are worth an extra $150? Nope.
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You sound like a *Happy Owner* of the V500...
And for a purchase price of $213.00 Brand New.. You got a Great Deal.
As for as this "Low-Res" 2014 Samsung Galaxy Note 8.4 you are referring to... I can find no such device..
Correct Me if I'm wrong.. but it sounds like.. you thought I was referring to the Samsung Galaxy "Pro Tab 8.4".. I was not.
But I do agree.. the Pro Tab 8.4's price of $399.00 is too high.. just like the G-Pad at $349.00 on launch was too high.
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You sound like a *Happy Owner* of the V500...
And for a purchase price of $213.00 Brand New.. You got a Great Deal.
As for as this "Low-Res" 2014 Samsung Galaxy Note 8.4 you are referring to... I can find no such device..
Correct Me if I'm wrong.. but it sounds like.. you thought I was referring to the Samsung Galaxy "Pro Tab 8.4".. I was not.
But I do agree.. the Pro Tab 8.4's price of $399.00 is too high.. just like the G-Pad at $349.00 on launch was too high.
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Right, I confused the Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 8.0 that is coming out.
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Right, I confused the Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 8.0 that is coming out.
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Got Cha..
It looks like Samsung is going to have 3 distinctive lines... Tab Series.. Tab Pro Series.. and the Note Series of tablets..
I'm sure there will be an updated Note 8.0 version at some point in 2014.. given how popular the 2012 Note 8.0 was there is bound to be an updated version.
But I have to admit.. if that V700 is indeed a 10" slate with full 2K resolution, Snapdragon 801/805 @ 2.5 or > and priced @ $449 - $499.99 and has a sleek bezel design.. it's going to be tempting to me..
Look Their should be only 2 tablets in this world for any manufacture, one you can hold in 1 hand and another model that needs 2 hands. Anything else is just noise and will be discontinued. Why samsung has like 12 models in the $250-500 range ill never know.
My wish list for the next gpad is same rez, brighter/better screen, a portrait/landscape kickstand, and a back not made of butter.
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Look Their should be only 2 tablets in this world for any manufacture, one you can hold in 1 hand and another model that needs 2 hands. Anything else is just noise and will be discontinued. Why samsung has like 12 models in the $250-500 range ill never know.
My wish list for the next gpad is same rez, brighter/better screen, a portrait/landscape kickstand, and a back not made of butter.
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Back made of butter? As to kickstand, a case is your friend. Not sure about portrait, but mine supports landscape just fine.
If Samsung has that many models, then clearly they have a market for them, so bully for them. It is funny that they do not have any that can compete with the LG in price/performance (current price $200-250 of course).
Does a custom ROM helps the battery life on this tablet?
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Ok, so I've bought the LG GPad 7 v400.... How do I root it and flash a custom recovery?
Anthonol said:
Ok, so I've bought the LG GPad 7 v400.... How do I root it and flash a custom recovery?
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Go the the lg g pad 10.1 forum... More people there with the 7.0 lg g pad
There is root (via stumproot(?))
No boot loader unlock possible right now , so no custom ROM/kernel/recovery