I currently have NC2, which supposedly has some security advantages over NC4 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2727876). Does this mean I should not upgrade beyond NC2 or just not take an OTA update beyond NC2, and deodexed stuff posted by reputable people here are okay to flash? Also I vaguely remember having to put NC4 bands or kernel or something in when I updated to NC2 (NC4 was already out at the time). Is there an equivalent for NC5 that should be updated, regardless of whether I stay with NC2 or not?
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I currently have NC2, which supposedly has some security advantages over NC4 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2727876). Does this mean I should not upgrade beyond NC2 or just not take an OTA update beyond NC2, and deodexed stuff posted by reputable people here are okay to flash? Also I vaguely remember having to put NC4 bands or kernel or something in when I updated to NC2 (NC4 was already out at the time). Is there an equivalent for NC5 that should be updated, regardless of whether I stay with NC2 or not?
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If you're already on NC2 I wouldn't take any OTA. And yes, roms are safe to flash.
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If you're already on NC2 I wouldn't take any OTA. And yes, roms are safe to flash.
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I know roms are fine. I am having an issue because I would like to use a rom which doesn't interface with NC2.
I think my confusion comes from the term OTA. That means "Over The Air", as in "sent directly from Verizon to my phone", correct? I know not to accept the verizon updates. Is this a rom update and not firmware at all? Or at least it won't remove any capability from having NC2 installed http://galaxys4root.com/verizon-gal...c5-root-for-verizon-galaxy-s4-mdk-bootloader/
Is it just the baseband that I don't want to update beyond NC2?
I'm sorry, the different terminology is a little confusing and I don't want to do something that restricts the functionality of my phone and can't be undone.
By the way, my concern over this issue stems from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2727876
So whatever he's talking about there is that to which I'm referring here.
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I know roms are fine. I am having an issue because I would like to use a rom which doesn't interface with NC2.
I think my confusion comes from the term OTA. That means "Over The Air", as in "sent directly from Verizon to my phone", correct? I know not to accept the verizon updates. Is this a rom update and not firmware at all? Or at least it won't remove any capability from having NC2 installed http://galaxys4root.com/verizon-gal...c5-root-for-verizon-galaxy-s4-mdk-bootloader/
Is it just the baseband that I don't want to update beyond NC2?
I'm sorry, the different terminology is a little confusing and I don't want to do something that restricts the functionality of my phone and can't be undone.
By the way, my concern over this issue stems from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2727876
So whatever he's talking about there is that to which I'm referring here.
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The Verizon OTA update is a firmware update. The difference between NC2 & NC4 is that the first was a leaked non-official bootloader. The benefits that came along with it were the ability to flash backwards to previous bootloaders, and some unique possibilities related to the kernel. Once on NC4 you cannot flash backwards, but the NC2 kernel can be flashed on top of the NC4 bootloader so that it retains all the benefits of NC2 except the ability to go back from kitkat to jellybean.
NC5, which you have provided a link to is an S4 firmware, NC2/NC4 are Note 3 firmwares. If odin even let you flash the NC5 tar it would at the very least soft brick your phone.
I would say that unless you want to go back to jellybean at some point there is no reason not to be on the NC4 bootloader with NC2 kernel as NC4 is the official bootloader, however the opinions across the forums may vary. What is clear is that taking any OTA update is unwise if you want to maintain root access to your phone. This community is full of developers that dedicate their time to providing us with a way to keep our phones as close to the way we want them as possible, for without them we would be on our own and many of us would never experience the possibilities. Thank God for devs.
I hope this helped.
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The Verizon OTA update is a firmware update. The difference between NC2 & NC4 is that the first was a leaked non-official bootloader. The benefits that came along with it were the ability to flash backwards to previous bootloaders, and some unique possibilities related to the kernel. Once on NC4 you cannot flash backwards, but the NC2 kernel can be flashed on top of the NC4 bootloader so that it retains all the benefits of NC2 except the ability to go back from kitkat to jellybean.
NC5, which you have provided a link to is an S4 firmware, NC2/NC4 are Note 3 firmwares. If odin even let you flash the NC5 tar it would at the very least soft brick your phone.
I would say that unless you want to go back to jellybean at some point there is no reason not to be on the NC4 bootloader with NC2 kernel as NC4 is the official bootloader, however the opinions across the forums may vary. What is clear is that taking any OTA update is unwise if you want to maintain root access to your phone. This community is full of developers that dedicate their time to providing us with a way to keep our phones as close to the way we want them as possible, for without them we would be on our own and many of us would never experience the possibilities. Thank God for devs.
I hope this helped.
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Whoops, yeah somehow I ended up there and assumed I was on the galaxynote3 variant of that website and didn't notice. This explains why when I searched the note3 forums for NC5 I got no results! This also explains why Hyperdrive 17.1 doesn't load on my phone! Man, I just lost almost two days because I ended up in the wrong Hyperdrive topic.
Thanks for the help! One last question (I just want to make sure that I have all of this right): If I want to move to NC4, I can take, for example, a deodexed version of the NC4 ROM, flash that in Safestrap, then find an NC4 bootloader and install that via odin? Or do I not need to do the bootloader step?
If you want to go fully to NC4 you need to flash the stock tar via odin. File can be found here.
The NC4 rom found here, however this is not the firmware for the bootloader. It can be flashed on the NC2 bootloader.
The first link is the firmware for the NC4 bootloader, the second link is a stock rom and instructions on how to get the NC2 kernel with either NC2 or NC4 bootloaders.
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Currently have a AT&T S4 rooted with MDL firmware. I have flashed other 4.3 loki roms without any problems (using Goldeneye 20 now). From the reading that I have done on the forums, it is my understanding that certain roms require a newer firmware version, for example, Hyperdrive. Is that a correct statement? If so, will that continue to be the trend with later releases? Can anyone provide any additional information to help me understand this better? Thanks in advance!
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Currently have a AT&T S4 rooted with MDL firmware. I have flashed other 4.3 loki roms without any problems (using Goldeneye 20 now). From the reading that I have done on the forums, it is my understanding that certain roms require a newer firmware version, for example, Hyperdrive. Is that a correct statement? If so, will that continue to be the trend with later releases? Can anyone provide any additional information to help me understand this better? Thanks in advance!
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For MDL, that does not apply. Basically people with MF3+ phones need to upgrade to 4.3 to have 4.3 ROMs. All you need to do is continue to use loki and never upgrade your bootloaders.
DeadlySin9 said:
For MDL, that does not apply. Basically people with MF3+ phones need to upgrade to 4.3 to have 4.3 ROMs. All you need to do is continue to use loki and never upgrade your bootloaders.
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Unless he wants a 4.4.2 rom then he needs the new bootloader....which is locked! so stay away of 4.4.2 for now
Flashing roms (unless stated by OP) will not update your bootloader correct? Since I am one of the lucky ones to have the MDL, I don't want to jeopardize it.
daraj said:
Unless he wants a 4.4.2 rom then he needs the new bootloader....which is locked! so stay away of 4.4.2 for now
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Not true, he can flash a 4.4.2 ROM with the MDL bootloader as long as he gets a loki 4.4.2 kernel. Otherwise the 4.4.2 Google Edition thread wouldn't get much attention
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Flashing roms (unless stated by OP) will not update your bootloader correct? Since I am one of the lucky ones to have the MDL, I don't want to jeopardize it.
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Flashing ROMs will not touch your bootloaders. Just never take any OTA updates to the stock ROM, and never ODIN any firmware except MDL. OTA updates on custom ROMs will only work in some cases (GE doesn't because they're ported from a different model, Hyperdrive will because it has a specialized system).
I'm MDL on 4.2.2, how did you upgrade to 4.3 but keep your MDL?
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Wittyusernametaken said:
I'm MDL on 4.2.2, how did you upgrade to 4.3 but keep your MDL?
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You can use the StockUp ROM, it's just MK2 with bloat removed and you can even flash the bloat back on if you want.
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You can use the StockUp ROM, it's just MK2 with bloat removed and you can even flash the bloat back on if you want.
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Interesting yeah, no bloat love here, I've got a metric ton of it frozen with Titanium. I was thinking that the only thing I could try was http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2356276 . I haven't actually flashed any roms yet, only rooted and have twrp. Thank you for the info
I'm on MDL firmware (AT&T) running Hyperdrive RSL13 with KTs kernel. I've had 4.2.2 and 4.4.2 roms on this phone. You can bounce around with no problem. My recovery auto lokis...using shabby penguins recovery.
Apology if I sound like a noob, but the more I read the more confused I get. What is the difference between these two scenarios? Which one is preferred?
1. Take OTA all the way to NC4, use Towrlroot.
2. From any rooted rom, flash Beanstown NC4 ROM and ODIN updated NC2 firmware.
openwheelracing said:
Apology if I sound like a noob, but the more I read the more confused I get. What is the difference between these two scenarios? Which one is preferred?
1. Take OTA all the way to NC4, use Towrlroot.
2. From any rooted rom, flash Beanstown NC4 ROM and ODIN updated NC2 firmware.
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You don't want to take the official OTA for NC4 if you haven't. Although it can be rooted - you can't roll back from it to other firmwares. NC2 is supposed to be the best as far as being able to make modifications to your phone from what I understand.
Having said that I am on official NC4. I used to really enjoy flashing roms but as of late I do not find that they offer much advantage - and often times are more buggy than the stock firmware.
Thank you for the reply. So I am on Beanstowns latest NC4 ROM with NC2 firmware. I was curious if this setup may be less optimal than 100% NC4. I don't like to flash ROMs, I just need to be rooted with Wanam Xposed
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Thank you for the reply. So I am on Beanstowns latest NC4 ROM with NC2 firmware. I was curious if this setup may be less optimal than 100% NC4. I don't like to flash ROMs, I just need to be rooted with Wanam Xposed
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Well that is your call. The guys that like flashing roms swear you should stay on NC2. I personally just grew out of it after 5 years of this stuff. I'm on stock unrooted NC4. But I did root NC4 with TowelRoot. And then I Odined back to stock unrooted. I did not however try to install Xposed or the Wanam module. So you may want to check into that before you make the leap. I've never been on NC2 so I can't really make a comparison to which firmware runs better. But my guess is since they did not release NC2, but created and released NC4 - that it is better than NC2. But then again, it may just be that they patched the exploits in NC2 and called that release NC4.
Is Wanam pretty awesome? I have heard some pretty good stuff about it. If I do test it out I'll report back here.
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Is Wanam pretty awesome? I have heard some pretty good stuff about it. If I do test it out I'll report back here.[/QUOTE said:
Wanam covers pretty much everything that I would want out of a custom ROM. I like stock android, I don't need a total replacement. I just want to be able to tweak the little nags, and Wanam covers just about all of them. The ones that can't be done through Wanam can be done through other means. In the end, I basically have my own custom ROM, but tailored to my tastes and not someone else's.
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I just recently purchased a Verizon Note 3 and would like some takeoff advice with this device. It came loaded with JB 4.3 and MJE baseband. I would like to upgrade the present stock JB 4.3 to KK 4.4.2 utilizing the best tools for the job. With root, a new recovery, and a reliable wifi hotspot apk too. I have found that it helps to get advice from an experienced user before potentially taking a wrong first step in unknown territory... Been there, done that.
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I just recently purchased a Verizon Note 3 and would like some takeoff advice with this device. It came loaded with JB 4.3 and MJE baseband. I would like to upgrade the present stock JB 4.3 to KK 4.4.2 utilizing the best tools for the job. With root, a new recovery, and a reliable wifi hotspot apk too. I have found that it helps to get advice from an experienced user before potentially taking a wrong first step in unknown territory... Been there, done that.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543386
This is the method I used it worked perfectly, I came from sprint sammy GS3 so this was a bit different but its great now! if you go under your devices and go to the android development forum you will see how to update to 4.4.2 after you obtain your 4.3 root with safestrap. this is the safest method so follow the link i posted and you should have no problems:good: also if you miss the aosp feel the eclipse rom is amazing..Good Luck
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Lexus One said:
I just recently purchased a Verizon Note 3 and would like some takeoff advice with this device. It came loaded with JB 4.3 and MJE baseband. I would like to upgrade the present stock JB 4.3 to KK 4.4.2 utilizing the best tools for the job. With root, a new recovery, and a reliable wifi hotspot apk too. I have found that it helps to get advice from an experienced user before potentially taking a wrong first step in unknown territory... Been there, done that.
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Oh also I stayed on the NC2 firmware when I went to kit kat from what I gathered in research its better than the NC4 for now
More importantly, is there anything that I MUST do while running JB4.3 that I can't do afterwards on 4.4.2? Like root with survival mode or something? Otherwise (from JB4.3) it looks like I could just install the OTA to 4.4.2 NC4 ... run Towelroot, install busybox, and then SafeStrap 3.72. So, is this a good or bad idea ???
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More importantly, is there anything that I MUST do while running JB4.3 that I can't do afterwards on 4.4.2? Like root with survival mode or something? Otherwise (from JB4.3) it looks like I could just install the OTA to 4.4.2 NC4 ... run Towelroot, install busybox, and then SafeStrap 3.72. So, is this a good or bad idea ???
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There is nothing special you need to do while on 4.3. You can do just as you said but you also need to install SuperUser.
Update, run the alpha root, install busybox, su, and safestrap. Download your ROM and flash it on the stock slot.
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Update, run the alpha root, install busybox, su, and safestrap. Download your ROM and flash it on the stock slot.
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Could you help me find the "alpha root" method? I don't see it anywhere.
Lexus One said:
Could you help me find the "alpha root" method? I don't see it anywhere.
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its not called alpha. [emoji12]
http://towelroot.com/
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I've been doing some reading in various places and have noticed that there are a good many people complaining about the 4.4.2 upgrade. Things like reception and battery issues...and the list goes on. They basically are saying that things were better before the update.
Would it be better (less problems overall) to upgrade via odin to 4.4.2 NC4...or just take the OTA route from the retail version 4.3 MJE...or should I stay on 4.3 and put up with the alleged GPS headaches...and bypass all the reception and battery issues?
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I've been doing some reading in various places and have noticed that there are a good many people complaining about the 4.4.2 upgrade. Things like reception and battery issues...and the list goes on. They basically are saying that things were better before the update.
Would it be better (less problems overall) to upgrade via odin to 4.4.2 NC4...or just take the OTA route from the retail version 4.3 MJE...or should I stay on 4.3 and put up with the alleged GPS headaches...and bypass all the reception and battery issues?
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Don't use the NC4 Odin or the OTA, root MJE then install a 4.4.2 ROM. That way you have the ability to go back to MJE if you want to, you can also try the different modems once you're on NC4 and find the one that works best for you.
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Don't use the NC4 Odin or the OTA, root MJE then install a 4.4.2 ROM. That way you have the ability to go back to MJE if you want to, you can also try the different modems once you're on NC4 and find the one that works best for you.
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Thanks airmaxx, but I thought I read that I could use odin to go back if I wanted to after rooting the OTA NC4 with towelroot. Besides, if there are problems (as I've read) with 4.4.2 NC4, then it would make more sense not to upgrade at all. Or is NC4 really that much better even with the poorer reception and battery issues? Now I'm wondering what makes the NC4 upgrade worth the time and effort. Thanks again for your thoughts.
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Thanks airmaxx, but I thought I read that I could use odin to go back if I wanted to after rooting the OTA NC4 with towelroot. Besides, if there are problems (as I've read) with 4.4.2 NC4, then it would make more sense not to upgrade at all. Or is NC4 really that much better even with the poorer reception and battery issues? Now I'm wondering what makes the NC4 upgrade worth the time and effort. Thanks again for your thoughts.
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You can downgrade from 4.4.2 (NC4) if you root MJE and install a pre-rooted version (ROM). The OTA and NC4 tar file have a different bootloader which prevents downgrading. I've had no problems with battery or signal on NC4, keep in mind that people usually post when they have problems but rarely pay when things are working fine.
airmaxx23 said:
You can downgrade from 4.4.2 (NC4) if you root MJE and install a pre-rooted version (ROM). The OTA and NC4 tar file have a different bootloader which prevents downgrading. I've had no problems with battery or signal on NC4, keep in mind that people usually post when they have problems but rarely pay when things are working fine.
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Now that is good to know. Thanks. So I can assume that the bootloader from retail 4.3 MJE is what I want to keep...even if I move to a 4.4.2 NC2 or NC4 rom?
Lexus One said:
Now that is good to know. Thanks. So I can assume that the bootloader from retail 4.3 MJE is what I want to keep...even if I move to a 4.4.2 NC2 or NC4 rom?
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The NC2 bootloader is really the one to be on. The basic steps can be found in the install instructions in this ROM thread, you can use any ROM, it doesn't have to be Jasmine. Just use steps 1-12. More detailed instructions can be found in this thread but use the Odin files from the first thread.
I just migrated from a galaxy S3, my phone took the update that basically locks the boot loader while i was sleeping. Very unfair. So now I'm weary of what i can possibly do with my phone. So I have a note 3 on 4.4.2 waiting to be rooted. I did some research, found a few options but i want assurance that it is safe and possible. Has anyone been able to root the device (verizon) and put a rom on it? I believe towelroot is my best bet. Also what does NC4 and NC2 stand for? Thanks!
You have a lot of reading to do. Nc4&2 refer to build numbers, kernels, modems. Could be a lot of things...read carefully. Next search towel root. Then search safe strap. Read everything that Google shows you about those things. Then start testing what you feel comfortable flashing. Report back with questions
Here you go I'll make it alittle easier for you.
Root NC4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784009 by @droidguy22
Odin help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2576104 by @az_biker
Root NC4 and setup to flash roms : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2787627 by @BeansTown106
Safestrap : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517610 by @Hashcode
Modems : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524572 by @BeansTown106
NC2 was a leak we got before the NC4 OTA, the NC2 left us a few loopholes that NC4 didn't. People who took the NC2 leak can odin all the way back to MJE 4.3 if we like. If you took the NC4 OTA you're stuck on NC4. Just because you're on NC4 doesn't mean you have to stick with that modem if your signal is awful. It all depends on where you are, etc. I'm on the NC2 leak but that modem was terrible for me so I flashed the NC4 modem. Some users are on NC4/NC2 and using the MJE modem and others are on NC2 modem. You have to try them out for yourself but if your signal is fine then don't worry about it. Just read, read and read again. Take your time and follow all instructions and you'll be fine. Happy rooting and flashing roms.
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thegamerdarkseid said:
Here you go I'll make it alittle easier for you.
Root NC4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784009 by @droidguy22
Odin help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2576104 by @az_biker
Root NC4 and setup to flash roms : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2787627 by @BeansTown106
Safestrap : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517610 by @Hashcode
Modems : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524572 by @BeansTown106
NC2 was a leak we got before the NC4 OTA, the NC2 left us a few loopholes that NC4 didn't. People who took the NC2 leak can odin all the way back to MJE 4.3 if we like. If you took the NC4 OTA you're stuck on NC4. Just because you're on NC4 doesn't mean you have to stick with that modem if your signal is awful. It all depends on where you are, etc. I'm on the NC2 leak but that modem was terrible for me so I flashed the NC4 modem. Some users are on NC4/NC2 and using the MJE modem and others are on NC2 modem. You have to try them out for yourself but if your signal is fine then don't worry about it. Just read, read and read again. Take your time and follow all instructions and you'll be fine. Happy rooting and flashing roms.
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This post should effectively end all questions regarding basic flashing and upgrading firmware I'm thinking this will be referred to about a bazillion times! Nice work!
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This post should effectively end all questions regarding basic flashing and upgrading firmware I'm thinking this will be referred to about a bazillion times! Nice work!
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Thanks a ton, I just try to help out when I can.
One more question actually. I'm on the nc2 leak. Will flashing the nc4 full stock tar replace the bootloader and strand me as if I took the OTA?
So I've got a Verizon Note 3 running android 4.3 rooted with supersu + busybox, decent amount of samsung bloatware disabled. I am wondering for starters if I were to install safestrap if I can just keep the way it currently is and then use a rom slot for any roms or should I factory wipe the stock slot, install 4.4.2 via odin then root via towelroot and then install safestrap and rom from that or what method should I take? Is it possible to use the ROM slots on the VZN3? I watched a few youtube videos and they were all factory resetting the stock slot and installing it there but I'd love to be able to just keep my current setup as is since it'd be a guranteed fallback. In case this doesnt make sense just respond as to what needs clarification and i'll respond in less than 5 minutes.
You can use only the jelly bean roms while on jb. Follow the instructions to use a kitkat rom in each roms op. You have to odin the kernal. You will retain root if following them. You dont need to use towelroot.
So can i just do a rom slot or do I have to upgrade to kit kat? What do you mean by odin the kernel?
Its really to much to explain… you probably really have to do some read up on odin software and kernels before you attempt to do anything on your phone cause no one is responsible but you… So please google search how to odin or how to flash a unified kernel NC2 or NC4… Nc2 is a older but more versatile kernel of 4.4.2 and Nc4 is the lastest kernel likely the one that your on now go to about phone and look under Baseband Version yours should say NC4 the last 3 character
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Its really to much to explain… you probably really have to do some read up on odin software and kernels before you attempt to do anything on your phone cause no one is responsible but you… So please google search how to odin or how to flash a unified kernel NC2 or NC4… Nc2 is a older but more versatile kernel of 4.4.2 and Nc4 is the lastest kernel likely the one that your on now go to about phone and look under Baseband Version yours should say NC4 the last 3 character
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Seems like saying kernel is unnecessary, isn't this just flashing the .tar or whatever format it is to the phone using odin, i've already done that. I just need to upgrade to NC4? No one is answering the question of whether i can just use the rom slots and keep the stock slot active on MJE.
Xproplayer said:
Seems like saying kernel is unnecessary, isn't this just flashing the .tar or whatever format it is to the phone using odin, i've already done that. I just need to upgrade to NC4? No one is answering the question of whether i can just use the rom slots and keep the stock slot active on MJE.
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Once you upgrade to KK your MJE roms won't work so if you have a real love for a particular MJE rom stay on MJE. On KK and the updated safestrap rom slots work but with mixed results, some people have no problems and other roms in slots other than stock have seen performance issues.
You only need the NC2 kernel if you took the NC4 OTA, if you upgrade via this method you don't have to worry about it.
See here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55241731&postcount=2
waco2hot33 said:
Its really to much to explain… you probably really have to do some read up on odin software and kernels before you attempt to do anything on your phone cause no one is responsible but you… So please google search how to odin or how to flash a unified kernel NC2 or NC4… Nc2 is a older but more versatile kernel of 4.4.2 and Nc4 is the lastest kernel likely the one that your on now go to about phone and look under Baseband Version yours should say NC4 the last 3 character
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thegamerdarkseid said:
Once you upgrade to KK your MJE roms won't work so if you have a real love for a particular MJE rom stay on MJE. On KK and the updated safestrap rom slots work but with mixed results, some people have no problems and other roms in slots other than stock have seen performance issues.
You only need the NC2 kernel if you took the NC4 OTA, if you upgrade via this method you don't have to worry about it.
See here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55241731&postcount=2
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I don't want MJE roms, I want NC4 roms, but what I mean is can I keep my stock slot as MJE and use rom slot for nc4 roms
Xproplayer said:
I don't want MJE roms, I want NC4 roms, but what I mean is can I keep my stock slot as MJE and use rom slot for nc4 roms
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No that can't happen unless there's something huge that I don't know about. They are different firmwares. But if you do the rooted upgrade you can go back if you prefer ME, if you do the OTA there's no going back to MJE.
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I don't want MJE roms, I want NC4 roms, but what I mean is can I keep my stock slot as MJE and use rom slot for nc4 roms
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No that can't happen unless there's something huge that I don't know about. They are different firmwares. But if you do the rooted upgrade you can go back if you prefer ME, if you do the OTA there's no going back to MJE.
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I don't want MJE roms, I want NC4 roms, but what I mean is can I keep my stock slot as MJE and use rom slot for nc4 roms
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Xproplayer said:
I don't want MJE roms, I want NC4 roms, but what I mean is can I keep my stock slot as MJE and use rom slot for nc4 roms
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No that can't happen unless there's something huge that I don't know about. They are different firmwares. But if you do the rooted upgrade you can go back if you prefer ME, if you do the OTA there's no going back to MJE.
Xproplayer said:
I don't want MJE roms, I want NC4 roms, but what I mean is can I keep my stock slot as MJE and use rom slot for nc4 roms
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currently the only rom that runs with the NC4 kernel is jasmine.
the_rooter said:
currently the only rom that runs with the NC4 kernel is jasmine.
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Are you sure? I was looking at alliancerom and it says NC4 4.4.2 in the name...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2553357
Xproplayer said:
Are you sure? I was looking at alliancerom and it says NC4 4.4.2 in the name...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2553357
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Yes Alliance is nc2 kernel but it'll be nc4 next build..... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55373385
thegamerdarkseid said:
Yes Alliance is nc2 kernel but it'll be nc4 next build..... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55373385
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Do you happen to know about hyerdrive, and just to clarify i should be able to flash nc2 to my vzn3 and then install alliance over it
Both are possible; I did the latter. ROM slots do not work with SS 3.72 and above (the one you will need if you are running kit Kat). You can only flash ROMs to the stock slot, so make a nandroid first!
If you decide to stay on JB and SS 3.71, you can definitely keep a stock ROM in the stock slot and install another ROM on a custom ROM slot. Hope I could help.
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Actually since you're on note 3 you may need SS 3.75 if you're going to flash kit Kat Roms. If you have any questions feel free to email me. And yes Hyperdrive is an extremely popular TW ROM. Just make sure whatever android version you are on, flash a compatible ROM.
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marbertshere said:
Both are possible; I did the latter. ROM slots do not work with SS 3.72 and above (the one you will need if you are running kit Kat). You can only flash ROMs to the stock slot, so make a nandroid first!
If you decide to stay on JB and SS 3.71, you can definitely keep a stock ROM in the stock slot and install another ROM on a custom ROM slot. Hope I could help.
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Actually since you're on note 3 you may need SS 3.75 if you're going to flash kit Kat Roms. If you have any questions feel free to email me. And yes Hyperdrive is an extremely popular TW ROM. Just make sure whatever android version you are on, flash a compatible ROM.
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its actually ss 3.75 B04
So does anyone know about hyperdrive? I looked all over the thread and couldn't find anything..
Xproplayer said:
So does anyone know about hyperdrive? I looked all over the thread and couldn't find anything..
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What do you want to know about Hyperdrive? If you're on NC4 and you want to run Hyperdrive you'll have to flash the NC2 kernel after flashing the rom or it won't boot. Just flash the rom in safestrap and when you're done flashing use safestrap to boot into download mode and flash NC2 kernel in Odin in the AP slot. In all honesty I'd look into flashing @hsbadr unified kk firmware and then you could run any rom in this forum without worrying about flashing the NC2 kernel. I've done it and been able to bounce from rom to rom without any issues....
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What do you want to know about Hyperdrive? If you're on NC4 and you want to run Hyperdrive you'll have to flash the NC2 kernel after flashing the rom or it won't boot. Just flash the rom in safestrap and when you're done flashing use safestrap to boot into download mode and flash NC2 kernel in Odin in the AP slot. In all honesty I'd look into flashing @hsbadr unified kk firmware and then you could run any rom in this forum without worrying about flashing the NC2 kernel. I've done it and been able to bounce from rom to rom without any issues....
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I'm currently on 4.3 MJE, could you send some links on this unified, the only two roms I'm currently interested in are Hyperdrive and Alliance but I've been told each one has to be flashed onto specific roms etc etc.
Xproplayer said:
I'm currently on 4.3 MJE, could you send some links on this unified, the only two roms I'm currently interested in are Hyperdrive and Alliance but I've been told each one has to be flashed onto specific roms etc etc.
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Here's the link to the post look in Downloads. RE is for retail edition and DE is for Dev Edition. Don't flash the wrong one or you could brick your phone. The unified firmware is flashed in Odin in the AP slot and once you flash it you can jump from rom to rom without worrying about the NC2 kernel but since you're on MJE you'll need to do the KK upgrade before flashing unified firmware. See quote in red at the bottom of the Downloads section!! I don't want you to get the wrong impression as I'm not yelling at you or anything bro, I don't want anyone bricking their device....
Link to firmware : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52860439&postcount=1
Links for all other things : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55241731&postcount=2