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Obviously this is a beta version of the upcoming samsung official ICS release for S2, it looks like a total catastrophe with TouchWiz..it looks NOTHING like beautiful Nexus Interface.
If it will look anything remotly similiar on the GNOTE it would be catastrophic..
Yeah agree. If the final looks like this i'm gonna flash vanilla ICS.. Well, i'll probably flash that either way.
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yes this is total dissapointment, all people expect a total new UI, and what we get is something that looks identlical to the interface we have right now... it does not look like ICS at all... looks more like gingerbread... what are Samsung thinking drop the TouchWiz crap, TouchWiz has played out it's roll... it feels like windows 7 but with the xp GUI...
We should send a protest list or something to samsung cause this looks like a total nightmare...all people expect the brilliance of the Nexus GUI.. but this looks even worse then I could imagine.
Long live cm9!!
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I wouldn't mind vanilla ICS, but there'd better be a way to turn off the on-screen soft keys on phones that have hardware ones. Also, I can't stand having to reach all the way to the top of the phone for anything but notifications. The menu button at the bottom better continue to work the same.
The vanilla runs well on the fassy. Same stuff new version.
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I wouldn't mind vanilla ICS, but there'd better be a way to turn off the on-screen soft keys on phones that have hardware ones. Also, I can't stand having to reach all the way to the top of the phone for anything but notifications. The menu button at the bottom better continue to work the same.
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If you use adw ex u can put notificationbar on gestures, so u can drag it down from anywhere on the screen
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I hate touchiz. I'm an aosp lover
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I think the phone will look odd with ICS anyway. You will have two rows of redundant keys, even though one may be not working.
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I think the phone will look odd with ICS anyway. You will have two rows of redundant keys, even though one may be not working.
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lol.....You can disable software keys in ICS
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Yeah agree. If the final looks like this i'm gonna flash vanilla ICS.. Well, i'll probably flash that either way.
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To some one who have not used android before, can you explain to me what you mean with Vanilla ICS ????
You mean it will be possible to root with the standard ICS interface ?
Will the performance be as good as the official or will be lagging and buggs etc ?
Anyway, why it look so similar to todays gingerbread is maybe cause samsung are doing an half-hearted upgrade..
they have promised us ICS.. but they only seem to put small amount of energy to make a big update...
the interface looks identical etc.. Why I wanted ICS was cause it is basically a totally new OS...compared to gingerbread.
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To some one who have not used android before, can you explain to me what you mean with Vanilla ICS ????
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Stock Android. The way Google had intended it to look, feel, and perform.
This is unbelievably disappointing. I'm still glad I have my S2, because of the ASOP rom currently under development. I'll most definitely switch between phones whenever I want and just store any content that matters on an SD card, so my phone is virtually hot-swappable between devices.
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Stock Android. The way Google had intended it to look, feel, and perform.
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Yes I understand that, but there will be no official version cause the stock version most be modified to be able to work with GNOTE ???
I just wonder if it is possible to port the ICS to GNOTE without any glitches and performance loss... how does past vanilla versions works for other phones ?
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Yes I understand that, but there will be no official version cause the stock version most be modified to be able to work with GNOTE ???
I just wonder if it is possible to port the ICS to GNOTE without any glitches and performance loss... how does past vanilla versions works for other phones ?
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It depends on developer support. If the devs for CM9 can port it to the Note, than only then can we expect a (hopefully) fully functional ICS rom on the Note.
As it stands, Google only releases official vanilla roms to their Nexus line of phones, and they release the source for other manufacturers/devs to port to other phones.
I hope that answers your question mate, the way it was worded was a bit difficult to fully understand.
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Yes I understand that, but there will be no official version cause the stock version most be modified to be able to work with GNOTE ???
I just wonder if it is possible to port the ICS to GNOTE without any glitches and performance loss... how does past vanilla versions works for other phones ?
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Well official as in with 'nothing' on it, no carrier or vendor tweaks/applications added and in this case, things like Touchwiz.
Also ICS was launched with Galaxy Nexus not Galaxy Note, but regardless I would presume that Samsung or another developer on XDA or any other forum will create a port to the Galaxy Note.
Vanilla just means that it doesn't have the other unnecessary stuff loaded e.g. Touchwiz. Vanilla is always compiled directly from AOSP source.
Why is everyone so angry about samsung including touchwiz into the ICS rom (I assume that's what this discussion is about?). Isn't the best thing about android the incredible ease of installing another launcher? Shouldn't the stock launcher just be a .apk away?
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Why is everyone so angry about samsung including touchwiz into the ICS rom (I assume that's what this discussion is about?). Isn't the best thing about android the incredible ease of installing another launcher? Shouldn't the stock launcher just be a .apk away?
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Well it's true what you said, but Samsung will skin almost everything.
The phone, browser, music player....all of them will be skinned with TW & I guess people in this thread (me include) prefer the stock ICS look and feel.
atm i looks not really nice, but! it is an internal beta, maybe even a alpha version, nobody knows if samsungs is just trying and looking if touchwiz is working under ics, i'm sure that they will make some more cosmetics for ics.
Dunno but no on saw the video? Didn't you something wrong or better few things that where not as expected on it? First the phone had a yellow triangle meaning Samsung had a problem flashing a non stock Rom on the phone. Second on the *#1234# if you not 100% eye sight old man here the csc is unknown.......... . Third the keys back and menu keys aren't functionally at all, only if they had the drivers for them to implant on csc so they could work. Fourth the browser not sure was on xda forums when he started? Or did I see wrong or now I know they where looking xda forum for a working csc file to make the buttons work.
And about touchwiz give me ics on note even with a touch I don't care, so someday the devs can make a custom Rom, on our needs. But they need to have something to play with and take some codes/ideas from the custom files.
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Wow.. that is disappointing... i thought i could just flash back the stock rom when ICS is out. Now looks like I'm going to stay rooted for good.
What are the differences between AOSP and GPe ROMs (that are noticeable). I know that the GPe is based off of the TW framework, but they look very similar otherwise. I'm trying to decide if I want to switch over to the 4.3 AOSP ROM posted a few days ago.
Thanks guys :beer:
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What are the differences between AOSP and GPe ROMs (that are noticeable). I know that the GPe is based off of the TW framework, but they look very similar otherwise. I'm trying to decide if I want to switch over to the 4.3 AOSP ROM posted a few days ago.
Thanks guys :beer:
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I saw this on the Verizon forum for the 4.3 AOSP ROM
@Elvis_Marmaduke -
For those who are still having trouble getting it. GE is made by Samsung and is a Samsung"ROM" if you will. It's like touchwiz without all the bloat and custom menus and features. AOSP is from Google. Not specialized per phone nor do they have the closed Qualcomm drivers so you may not get as high benchmarks and stuff. But most real world performance they will be pretty similar.
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@Dubbsy -
I thought I said it elsewhere. But anyway GoogleEdition is not AOSP. And AOSP is not GoogleEdition. I was following Brood's progress on a REAL aosp project. When be posted works in progress and his source I decided to play with it.
This is not meant to replace Google Edition 4.3. I'm still working on my Google Edition 4.3 port. It hasn't been friendly at all. B-d from Sprint has been having the same issues I am. Every time I have a "clearly this is the problem" moment... It's not the problem. At least not the main problem.
Comparing GE's 4.2.2 to 4.3 update and the effects to real AOSP it's like comparing cacti and puppies. Besides that, GE's 4.3 is older than this 4.3. JSS builds I've been reading have wake lock issues but while running it I've gotten nothing but amazing battery life
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This is NOT Google Play Edition, this is actual AOSP. But yes, 4.2.2 GPe is heavily TW based, while 4.3 GPe is AOSP based with some TW on top. Dubbsy will have to fill you in on the specifics.
My guess is that the decision to offer a "stock" experience S4 happened fairly late in the development process, possibly to silence those rumors of a Google/Samsung rift that were going around a few months ago. Samsung would have already had access to early 4.3 code, so they wouldn't have wanted to build a new 4.2.2 rom from the ground up. So they likely just used an engineering build they had, that had all of the lower level TW stuff but without any of the actual features or themeing built in. Which is presumably what they'd use to develop their TW builds, so they can test features individually with the base they need, but not have so many variables as they track down bugs. Either way, they probably already had something like this laying around, that only needed minor tweaking to become the GPe software. That way they didn't waste effort on software that they'd be replacing after only a month or so, anyway.
That way they could focus right in on developing the 4.3 GPe software so it'd be ready for a prompt release. Which would explain why it's much more heavily based on AOSP, though still with enough TW built in for a few things like the Smart Cover to work. Not to mention it'll likely take them awhile to have a solid 4.3 TW base.
Note that all the above is pure speculation on my part, with the exception of the actual distinctions between versions that I mentioned.
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I hope that helps!
I'd hold off on the 4.3 aosp until I get all the framework edits done if you need it to be a complete ROM. You'll have data but voice is messed up. telephony isn't setup properly for CDMA handoffs. Didn't notice it until someone pointed it out.
It's one heck of a smooth build though :good: Brood's doing a great job
Hi, I'm a new nexus 7.2 WI-FI owner, coming from an old Samsung Galaxy tab 8.9 with CM10.1.2
I've been playing with the stock ROM for a week now and I'm happy. I'm wondering if I'm missing anything staying in stock. My old galaxy nexus phone is also on CM10.2, haven't tried any Rom other than CM.
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Since the new Nexus 7 is Google's flagship device, they push out the latest release of the Android OS very quickly (first to get it). You have to ask yourself what's to be gained by using a custom ROM? Most folks who use them on their phones its to eliminate bloatware and run a later Android OS than their carrier has pushed out. The Nexus 7 Wi-Fi model doesn't have carrier loaded bloatware and you have the latest OS already. I run the stock ROM rooted . . . it's all I need.
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Since the new Nexus 7 is Google's flagship device, they push out the latest release of the Android OS very quickly (first to get it). You have to ask yourself what's to be gained by using a custom ROM? Most folks who use them on their phones its to eliminate bloatware and run a later Android OS than their carrier has pushed out. The Nexus 7 Wi-Fi model doesn't have carrier loaded bloatware and you have the latest OS already. I run the stock ROM rooted . . . it's all I need.
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I haven't rooted nor installed customized ROM yet but what I'm missing about cm is the little customizable things such as options and layout of quick notification tiles, quiet hours, DSP manager, etc. Also very looking forward to the day some Dev can unleash the cellular function of the LTE version,
If you want some additional features like customizable shortcuts, HALO, lock screen shortcuts, PIE or something else, flash some other ROM. If you're a Nexus 7 WIfi owner, then it's not a big problem to choose one. There's a lot of them for FLO (32GB, Wi-fi). I'm personally using PAC Rom and ElementalX kernel, but it's just because I like Paranoid Android and AOKP features. If you don't want a lot of customizing, find something else, possibly lighter, faster, more battery efficient. Or simply use CM 10.2. And if going to settings to change Wifi state doesn't get on your nerves, you did rooting and want your device to run fast and have the latest OS, stay on stock.
I'm waiting for kitkat, so i figured if i root now, ill have to wait until someone gets the source and provide a flashable update. I'm originally from the Philippines but i stay in Ireland for 2 more months for a client im working with now. I bought the device in Dublin so I hope I get the update earlier than if i was in asia.
I actually miss being rooted and able to block annoying ads but i guess after the kitkat update I'll root immediately.
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I am stock, rooted. I really haven't seen the need for anything else at this point. I DO think rooting needs to be done, if for nothing else that Titanium Backup. Plus, I think it is silly to have a device that you don't have access to the file system. Kinda like installing Linux without the "su" function.
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I am stock, rooted. I really haven't seen the need for anything else at this point. I DO think rooting needs to be done, if for nothing else that Titanium Backup. Plus, I think it is silly to have a device that you don't have access to the file system. Kinda like installing Linux without the "su" function.
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True that. But like Apple, Google is protecting the masses, aka non tech people, from breaking their own devices. Only knowledgeable people should root their devices.
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I haven't rooted nor installed customized ROM yet but what I'm missing about cm is the little customizable things such as options and layout of quick notification tiles, quiet hours, DSP manager, etc. Also very looking forward to the day some Dev can unleash the cellular function of the LTE version,
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You can do most of this on stock with Xposed Framework.
Using pandroid no problems or lock ups yet.
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CarbonRom and ElementalX kernel.
On my Galaxy S3 I also run Carbon with KT747 kernel.
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Using pandroid no problems or lock ups yet.
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I saw in one post they're having lockups at least once a day. Maybe you're not the heavy user type?
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martin707 said:
I saw in one post they're having lockups at least once a day. Maybe you're not the heavy user type?
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Not everyone experiences lockups. In fact, when everything works, people usually stay quiet.
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Summit1 said:
Since the new Nexus 7 is Google's flagship device, they push out the latest release of the Android OS very quickly (first to get it). You have to ask yourself what's to be gained by using a custom ROM? Most folks who use them on their phones its to eliminate bloatware and run a later Android OS than their carrier has pushed out. The Nexus 7 Wi-Fi model doesn't have carrier loaded bloatware and you have the latest OS already. I run the stock ROM rooted . . . it's all I need.
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I would think people are more likely to go the custom rom route because they wish to have more control over their devices, as in more settings/options. Then add in some of the cool additions rooms have.
Though some can be mimicked via apps.
Just the stock ROM; not rooted yet.
PA. Absolutely love PA.
PA and Franco kernel. Love the extra features of PA
Been using Carbon. I really like it and the nightlies have been very stable for me so far.
I'm running the latest PAC man ROM with elemental X kernel.
There actually is a lot to be gained... With this custom kennel I have double tap the screen to wake, swipe to sleep.
With PAC man you can also use the PA gapps to customize the colors of the apps. Also has swipe the top of the screen to adjust brightness. There are several themes as well. I run the PAC in black theme that comes with the ROM.
Just a few reasons why I prefer a custom ROM over the stock rooted rom
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I'm using AOKP and plan on staying with it. There wasn't anything wrong with the stock rom and I considered staying with it, its' the first android device where I wasn't unhappy with something. The reason I use AOKP is mainly because of how easy it is to theme it. Literally hundreds of options and changing the theme is like getting a new rom without the hassle of changing rom's. It's nice to have something new to look at when you get bored, plus I like all the rom control options like changing the battery icon and clock position and color.
Plus with this device its soooo easy to go back to stock I am not afraid of having any issues if I ever want to unroot and update.
I'm using AOKP, stable tablet ui with no need of changing dpi settings, adding 7 buttons to the navbar and customizing them.
Also use Carbon, for the lots and lots of features.
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I haven't seen this posted anywhere else yet. Looks like this is the source for the Droid Ultra/Maxx line.
Hopefully using this and the AOSP 4.3, we can get a 4.3 ROM brewed.
Announcing the release of open source for the Ultra family of products
And if you want the source for the Moto X it's there as well:
Announcing the release of Open Source Software for Moto X
Sorry for the noob questions but how does this effect the bootloader? Will it completely unlock the device for recovery/kernels/ROMs? TIA.
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Sorry for the noob questions but how does this effect the bootloader? Will it completely unlock the device for recovery/kernels/ROMs? TIA.
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This won't effect the bootloader but could be used for kernels and ROMs on the developer editions where the bootloader is unlocked.
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This won't effect the bootloader but could be used for kernels and ROMs on the developer editions where the bootloader is unlocked.
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Does that mean there's no hope still for locked devices? I got my Maxx and am now questioning if I should return it for a device that can be unlocked. I really love everything else about this phone though.
From what I have read around the forums, if you are looking for unlocked then this phone line isn't the way to go.
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Yep, the developer edition will probably be less headache for you in the long run.
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I don't really have 650$ lying around though :/
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I haven't seen this posted anywhere else yet. Looks like this is the source for the Droid Ultra/Maxx line.
Hopefully using this and the AOSP 4.3, we can get a 4.3 ROM brewed.
Announcing the release of open source for the Ultra family of products
And if you want the source for the Moto X it's there as well:
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thank you for the links.
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thank you for the links.
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is this phone is locked to verizon only? how about the gsm? it's locked too?
The phone can be used globaly. That includes GSM networks.
Out of curiosity, is there any development going on with the Droid Maxx developer edition right now? I realize that some of the Moto X stuff works OK, but until someone figures out how to get the capacitive buttons working we're not going to see any ROMs. I'm willing to shell out the extra money for the Maxx Developer Edition if it meant I wouldn't be forced to wait for Verizon to approve firmware updates, but right now it's not looking promising that anyone is going to bother with Droid Maxx DE ROMs. Unless, of course, someone figures out how to unlock the bootloader on the non-developer version.
I haven't seen any activity in the known channels but then again it may be too early to expect anything.
On another note, it would be nice if you could port the Google Edition ROM over to the non Google Edition phones, without having to unlock the bootloader, maybe?
Yeah, I'm surprised at the complete lack of development on this phone. I realize that developer edition devices won't have communities nearly as large as other devices, but I expected at least SOME basic AOSP ROM's.
Wouldnt this being a offical source thats made for our phones atleast allow us to put 4.3 into our phones? Id guess it runs the stock kernel which is signed.
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Yeah, I'm surprised at the complete lack of development on this phone. I realize that developer edition devices won't have communities nearly as large as other devices, but I expected at least SOME basic AOSP ROM's.
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Yeah, I particularly expected some basic ROMs too, since the Maxx will essentially run Moto X ROMs (apparently someone just needs to figure out how to get those ROMs to use the Maxx's capacative buttons). But, there's not a ton going on with the Moto X, either. I'm guessing that's mostly because the Moto X is already mostly a stock ROM. You could build your own AOSP ROM, I suppose, but then you'd lose some of the major features of the Moto X and Droid lines. They're working on CM 10.2, though.
I'd be happy with an AOSP ROM with touchless controls and active notifications
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I have to say since SS came out and we have exposed as well as modules like gravity box etc I don't see a huge need for ROMs. This phones is almost stock android as it is. I would be happy with a deodexed system so it would be easy to install inverted apps and such. I think that is all this phone needs. Other than a ROM that looks or acts completely different from stock what would be the benefit. Without an unlocked boot loader I have always noticed kexec Roms to run glitchy. I don't want a glichy phone when I can do what most Roms do using exposed etc. I think the time would be better spent on creating themes that could be flashed to the stock system. This is just my opinion based on using the maxx for the last 2months.
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I have to say since SS came out and we have exposed as well as modules like gravity box etc I don't see a huge need for ROMs. This phones is almost stock android as it is. I would be happy with a deodexed system so it would be easy to install inverted apps and such. I think that is all this phone needs. Other than a ROM that looks or acts completely different from stock what would be the benefit. Without an unlocked boot loader I have always noticed kexec Roms to run glitchy. I don't want a glichy phone when I can do what most Roms do using exposed etc. I think the time would be better spent on creating themes that could be flashed to the stock system. This is just my opinion based on using the maxx for the last 2months.
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I agree..seems as thow, if I had this stock ROM with a gray gapps to match system colors, maybe even a transparent status bar option, I'd be tickled..I do like some of the Apps. that come with this ROM, games I'm not into, and the "Amazon" stuff, nor the NFL, Ingress I would delete, BUT..The Droid Zap, Touch less Controls, NFC and others I'd like to keep..I do enjoy this device and for the most part, like the stock ROM..
Oh..and be able to turn GPS Off and On without having to give permission ever time ( check or uncheck the box)..
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I'm perfectly happy with stock MotoX/Droid ROMs too, particularly since they are so close to stock Android. But, I don't want to have to wait for Verizon to approve firmware updates. I got a Galaxy Nexus hoping to avoid some of the headaches associated with flashing ROMs, That didn't exactly turn out as expected (though probably how I should have expected it).
Hi all,
i was going to buy a g2 but as i always do i wanted to know first what roms are available and how they run. Have been reading through xda and how well are kitkat roms running on the g2 ? I read that slim has troubles, is this a general issue or just rom related ? what about PA or others ?
I ussually get a new phone every 2 / 3 years so that i want to make sure to have up to date os until then.
TIA !
there are some minor problems with PA roms. Nothing serious though.
LG will be releasing kitkat in some time (a month?), so there will be more roms based on KK.
For now You could choose between PA, CM11 (and roms based on), some slim kitkats, and there are a lot of stock based roms and roms ported from G Flex. I would say not bad at all. Go and check it out in Development sub forums.
Stock rom is also not bad - sure it is loaded with some bloatware but better than Glaxy's for sure
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there are some minor problems with PA roms. Nothing serious though.
LG will be releasing kitkat in some time (a month?), so there will be more roms based on KK.
For now You could choose between PA, CM11 (and roms based on), some slim kitkats, and there are a lot of stock based roms and roms ported from G Flex. I would say not bad at all. Go and check it out in Development sub forums.
Stock rom is also not bad - sure it is loaded with some bloatware but better than Glaxy's for sure
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thanks for your reply !
i had only a brief look to the stock ui but im sure im going to hate it. I dont have anything against LGs ui, im just used to aosp roms and like their simplicity.
My concern isnt just about kk but beyond, i mean, this year google will release 4.5 ( or whatever they will call it) and my guess is that LG wont make it available for the g2.
Does anyone know LGs policy about os updates ? How have they handled previous updates for example ?
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LG policy about updates is non existent LG G for e.g. . They were saying that they will change their approach to updates but...
I also like AOSP very much - was using nexus 4 for a year. For now i would say You could use PA on daily basis. There are some minor bugs. Battery life for me was worse form what i got on stock, that's why i'm switched back.
Other than that no crashes, reboots etc. Dunno about games though - they were some voices that some of them crashing
Personally I've bounced back and forth between stock and 4.4 Roms. Right now really happy running stock with xposed installed and using g2 exposed app in play store. Really able to do everything I personally want to be able to with that module.
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