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New sprint rom?? http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=10293&page=3
http://download.america.htc.com/RUU_...PL106_Ship.exe
It's been confirmed. That is the new official ROM for Sprint. It fixes the Bluetooth issues among others. No Rev. A or GPS of course, but that was expected.
question is, is this really "better" than the alltel rom that has been available for a long time already over at PPCgeeks...
The alltel rom fixed the BT and alarm problem as well. I'm excited to see that Sprint finally caught up, but I'm wondering if this is better than the setup I currently have.
Well I for one am happy and upset.. I would like to see REV A , as I need the faster upload speeds for sending big files from my 4gb micro sd.
I havent tried the Alltel rom, but the new sprint rom fixes the keyboard lag + wm6 responsiveness problems.
After reading all of the threads over at PPCGeeks, it seems like there are some mixed results on the ROM (to be expected I guess, you can't appease everyone.)
-Most are reporting the BT fix worked correctly.
-I didn't see anyone say that the Alarm fix didn't work
-People are reporting that the OS seems a little faster and better at managing memory, such as reclaiming more when you close an app, etc.
-The radio version on the Sprint ROM is 1.47, compared to 1.40 of the Alltel, some were reporting better reception between this one and the stock rom (1.32 I believe)
-the most widely spread issue I saw was that some users were having issues with their dpad not working. At first, someone pinned it down to sprinttv, as it worked after they removed it, but then others said that the problem returned.
-YMMV, but some reported that when they skipped the sprint customization of the rom (when it starts initially, after the 3 second delay where you can soft reset) it caused issues on their phone. One person said that a workaround for this was to let it install EVERYTHING initially, and then do a hard reset and skip the customization process. It makes sense that if it were something with the EXTRom that it might put something in there that you needed, but again, not sure on this one.
-I can't believe how many people were stuck on the idea that they would be able to use Sprite Backup or SPB Backup to restore all of their stuff. Let me say this again, because I don't think it can be said enough. Unless you are just restoring folders such as your documents or something non-system related, you CANNOT use these programs. You WILL overwrite the new files with the old ones, causing a boatload of issues, if it even works at all. So don't do it, or you will cause yourself some headaches. Activesync remembers the apps you have installed, so just sync afterwards and click the boxes. For your other stuff such as contacts, back those up with a contact backup app or sync with outlook if you've got it.
just my two cents.
kmartburrito said:
After reading all of the threads over at PPCGeeks, it seems like there are some mixed results on the ROM (to be expected I guess, you can't appease everyone.)
-Most are reporting the BT fix worked correctly.
-I didn't see anyone say that the Alarm fix didn't work
-People are reporting that the OS seems a little faster and better at managing memory, such as reclaiming more when you close an app, etc.
-The radio version on the Sprint ROM is 1.47, compared to 1.40 of the Alltel, some were reporting better reception between this one and the stock rom (1.32 I believe)
-the most widely spread issue I saw was that some users were having issues with their dpad not working. At first, someone pinned it down to sprinttv, as it worked after they removed it, but then others said that the problem returned.
-YMMV, but some reported that when they skipped the sprint customization of the rom (when it starts initially, after the 3 second delay where you can soft reset) it caused issues on their phone. One person said that a workaround for this was to let it install EVERYTHING initially, and then do a hard reset and skip the customization process. It makes sense that if it were something with the EXTRom that it might put something in there that you needed, but again, not sure on this one.
-I can't believe how many people were stuck on the idea that they would be able to use Sprite Backup or SPB Backup to restore all of their stuff. Let me say this again, because I don't think it can be said enough. Unless you are just restoring folders such as your documents or something non-system related, you CANNOT use these programs. You WILL overwrite the new files with the old ones, causing a boatload of issues, if it even works at all. So don't do it, or you will cause yourself some headaches. Activesync remembers the apps you have installed, so just sync afterwards and click the boxes. For your other stuff such as contacts, back those up with a contact backup app or sync with outlook if you've got it.
just my two cents.
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i took the plunge yesterday, i skipped out on all the sprint customization and everything turned out ok....haven't tested bluetooth yet but everything you said seems to be on point...
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-YMMV, but some reported that when they skipped the sprint customization of the rom (when it starts initially, after the 3 second delay where you can soft reset) it caused issues on their phone. One person said that a workaround for this was to let it install EVERYTHING initially, and then do a hard reset and skip the customization process. It makes sense that if it were something with the EXTRom that it might put something in there that you needed, but again, not sure on this one.
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Just to clarify this is part. A hard reset will completely erase any carrier customizations there is absolutely no reason for installing extrom, hard resetting then skipping. Just start out with the hard reset, skip customizations and you'll be good to go.
Although there are still the other bugs with the update =)
Just installed it a while ago, skipped the sprint customizations, everything seems to be running good and actually noticeably quicker than before. New startup screen is cool too, no problems thus far =)
do yourself a favor and wait for the next rom. If you didn't already experiance it, your device will lock up and go to sleep requiring a soft reset...very unusable. and BT will turn off after a few minutes randomly.
load the colonel's rom on, it's much better imho
Seems to only happen to some people though. I have had my phone on pretty much straight since the rom update.
there seems to be a major bluetooth issue where the BT just shuts off periodically.. Not sure how,but they found a way to make bluetooth even worse!
I can't carry on a conversation without BT shutting off on me.. (or use the gps without it shutting off/etc..)
-mark
I haven't updated yet, plan to over the weekend, but I would suggest anyone having problems to stop and consider their setup first...
1. What programs are installed that could cause problems?
2. What registry hacks have been done that may cause problems?
3. What configuration settings might need reset that may cause problems?
For example, after a hard reset, Enhanced Network over USB is enabled by default, and this often causes Active Sync to have issues. Likewise, power management tweaks will have reverted to defaults and you may like a more finely tuned setup.
As for memory leaks being better/worse, you may have programs installed that are out of date/buggy.
I realize it's easier to jump on the "this sucks" bandwagon, but it doesn't help you or other users with legitimate problems when no consideration is given to what is causing a given problem.
These situations are precisely why the instructions tell you that EVERYTHING will be erased. This is a good thing since it forces you to clean house, but it also means you have to pay attention to those things you often neglect or may have changed ages ago and forgotten.
Finally, if all else fails, try the ROM update again. Sometimes things go wrong.
Sorry if this seems like a rant, I just want people having issues to place blame where it truly belongs. After considering these matters, if you still have problems, definitely let HTC and the rest of us know.
Best Regards,
Aaron
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I haven't updated yet, plan to over the weekend, but I would suggest anyone having problems to stop and consider their setup first...
1. What programs are installed that could cause problems?
2. What registry hacks have been done that may cause problems?
3. What configuration settings might need reset that may cause problems?
For example, after a hard reset, Enhanced Network over USB is enabled by default, and this often causes Active Sync to have issues. Likewise, power management tweaks will have reverted to defaults and you may like a more finely tuned setup.
As for memory leaks being better/worse, you may have programs installed that are out of date/buggy.
I realize it's easier to jump on the "this sucks" bandwagon, but it doesn't help you or other users with legitimate problems when no consideration is given to what is causing a given problem.
These situations are precisely why the instructions tell you that EVERYTHING will be erased. This is a good thing since it forces you to clean house, but it also means you have to pay attention to those things you often neglect or may have changed ages ago and forgotten.
Finally, if all else fails, try the ROM update again. Sometimes things go wrong.
Sorry if this seems like a rant, I just want people having issues to place blame where it truly belongs. After considering these matters, if you still have problems, definitely let HTC and the rest of us know.
Best Regards,
Aaron
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My experience is as simple and "vanilla" as it gets:
-Loaded new ROM
-Hard reset
-Stopped customizations
-Installed NO apps, did not turn on BT, made no calls, did nothing else
-3 DSODs in 4 hours
-Did a second flash (from a second computer with a freshly downloaded ROM)
-Hard reset
-Allowed customizations to run
-Again no apps, BT or calls
-DSOD within an hour
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My experience is as simple and "vanilla" as it gets:
-Loaded new ROM
-Hard reset
-Stopped customizations
-Installed NO apps, did not turn on BT, made no calls, did nothing else
-3 DSODs in 4 hours
-Did a second flash (from a second computer with a freshly downloaded ROM)
-Hard reset
-Allowed customizations to run
-Again no apps, BT or calls
-DSOD within an hour
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Sounds atypical to me, given that most users are updating without issue and experiencing better results. I have no reason to doubt your experience though... it sounds like you have faulty hardware, but here's a download link to the previous firmware if you're interested in trying it out first:
http://www.htcamerica.net/support/mogul/software-downloads.html
No, "most" users are not experiencing better results. I've been using this ROM with poor results, as have many others. Read this thread for many sad tales of woe:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=10302
Basically, the new ROM does fix a bunch of things, but breaks others, so I would not recommend installing this ROM.
1) Locks up when changing from Sprint to roaming. You can test this by manually switching from Sprint to roaming and back a few times, you WILL get a phone lockup.
2) BT turns off randomly for many users.
3) Turn on BT, let unit sit for a few minutes until it goes to sleep, turn unit back on, dpad no longer works. I have seen this myself many times.
Don't install this update --- use the Alltel ROM or wait for another update.
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Sounds atypical to me, given that most users are updating without issue and experiencing better results. I have no reason to doubt your experience though... it sounds like you have faulty hardware, but here's a download link to the previous firmware if you're interested in trying it out first:
http://www.htcamerica.net/support/mogul/software-downloads.html
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1) You're incorrect in stating that most users have no problems, etc. Some do, some don't. Read the posts at ppcgeeks, pdaphonehome, BAW, hofo. I am not at all alone in having problems.
2) I downgraded 2 days ago, and my Mogul runs fine again - just exactly like it did for the 1st 3 months I had it. It's not my hardware! It's a bad ROM release.
Not everyone uses the phone in the same way at all. So of course some people will not see the same problems that others do.
If you never use Bluetooth and never roam, then this ROM will work for you. Otherwise, it will cause problems. For me, Bluetooth works much better in 2.09, and I rarely if ever see lockups as I have with 2.16. So, I'm going with 2.09 for now. The alarm problem IS fixed in 2.16 but I never use alarms on my phone so it's not an issue for me. Freezes when roaming ARE a problem.
cbunting said:
do yourself a favor and wait for the next rom. If you didn't already experiance it, your device will lock up and go to sleep requiring a soft reset...very unusable. and BT will turn off after a few minutes randomly.
load the colonel's rom on, it's much better imho
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is colonels rom built on the alltel core rom? if so it may be our best bet as of now.
When I see all these posts about problems, I honestly can not relate at all because my TF101 with ICS literally has no problems at all. I've downloaded about 30 apps so far.
Other people who say they have no problems also usually mention that they did a factory reset before upgrading to ICS.
Just a coincidence?
I did and haven't had as many issues as others....some tho - tearing when expanding the recent app list, some random app crashes that I'm blaming on the apps....I did have a reboot cycle yesterday after waking up on battery from the dock...a cold boot remedied that.....other than that it's been a good update....
mines running smooooth as well, I did a full wipe so doing a factory rest didnt make sense to me. I'm running AR HD..
No factory reset for me and I'm good so far.. well I just got it back from Asus, I think they might have done one lol
sonspot said:
mines running smooooth as well, I did a full wipe so doing a factory rest didnt make sense to me. I'm running AR HD..
No factory reset for me and I'm good so far.. well I just got it back from Asus, I think they might have done one lol
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full wipe does what factory reset does plus more.... so you did do factory reset. Can't believe you are taking it that literally.
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Did you do a factory reset before upgrading to ICS?
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Nope. And I upgraded directly from a custom ROM.
100+ apps installed before the upgrade and running great afterwards: no random reboots, battery draining or app crashing. The only issue I have is with Chrome occasionally locking up. However I attribute that to its BETA status.
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Just a coincidence?
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Perhaps ... perhaps not. A problem-free ICS upgrade, however, is not the sole provenance of those who factory reset/full wipe.
--L.
I did a full wipe when updating to ICS. Was fine for the first few days and now I have reboots/shutdowns maybe once a day. I had battery drain once as well. Its actually been pretty good other than that but I have kept it pretty standard with only a few apps as I am waiting for some better ROMS to come out with fixes.
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I did not wipe or factory reset. Have had one LOD 3 hours into sleep mode, one boot loop when I pulled out the SD card and one spontaneous reboot soon after coming out of sleep mode and rotating from landscape to portrait. Have had various Google app issues that are working themselves out.
I was prepared to wipe after I took the OTA, but haven't because I have had zero issues. I use my tf101 everyday, and it hasn't locked up or randomly rebooted once. I have about 60 apps installed.
Nope. I just hit update.
I've had the weird shutdown during sleep only once since first day update was available for USA.
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I only had an error that Android media closed out something like that for the first few days after update.
Clearing caches in my music apps seemed to work at first. Now that is back and my tf had been shutting down while in sleep. Just put it down to sleep for about 20 mins came back to Android logo on the screen with the circle froze.
It seems like this is getting worse for mine. tried everything but a wipe. Stock has not been rooted.
have always been on stock since the beginning. Never had any major issues. Was considering rooting to get cornerstone when it is stable.
Until than what other options can fix the reboots.
For some reason on honeycomb downloading something or the honeycomb status bar would always flash and mess up. I downloaded lots of stuff and tweaked it so that might be why. I wiped after coming from revolver and went to stock ICS. When it updated it was crazy slow and laggy. After every app was restored from the market I reset it and it FLEW. It just flies in terms of speed.
When I did my titanium restore I restored EVERYTHING. Not just apps but system data as well. When I did that I noticed it was slower and laggy and that notifications and download gitch was present.
I did factory reset again and only restored the app data this time and it's perfect now. No more lag or anything. Titanium back ups are fine and everything but if you were currently having lag or weird problems restoring the system settings doesn't help. I did not need them anyways. I love ICS. I really love how we get the status/notification bar that the prime has. Also the sony tablet and other tablets now have the little box markers at the top which let you know what page you are on. I'm glad we get that now as part of ICS too.
Factory reset definitely helps. Also I got to see that cool droid restoration image when it was resetting everything. I have never seen that before and it looked awesome.
no factory reset, Everything working good
This thread is complete nonsense, and to prove it, I have two TF101 tablets here. One was wiped before *and* after the ICS update, and had almost nothing reinstalled on it. The other was not wiped before *or* after. There are pretty-much no programs installed in common on both. Both are experiencing random, spontaneous reboots. Both are experiencing lockups. I've yet to see a boot loop on the one that wasn't wiped, but that's just chance -- I'm quite certain if I left it long enough, it would boot loop too, just like the one that was wiped.
horndroid loves to try and suggest this is somehow a user problem, but it's not. It's a fundamental problem of the stock Asus ICS ROM.
My result;
Normal upgrade from HC to ICS = strange behauvor and reboots.
Factory reset and upgrade to ICS = works like a dream, no big complains...
After ICS I have notice that some times ( one or maybe two times a day) screen is flash /flickering - but only for a micro second. Statusbar sometimes flickering when open, but not a big deal...
I have about 200 apps installede, many from 2 parts Market ( read Aptoide)
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My result;
Normal upgrade from HC to ICS = strange behauvor and reboot.
Factory reset and upgrade to ICS = works like a dream!
After ICS I have notice that some times ( one or maybe two times a day) screen is flash /flickering for a micro second. Have you observed this?
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This thread is complete nonsense, and to prove it, I have two TF101 tablets here. One was wiped before *and* after the ICS update, and had almost nothing reinstalled on it. The other was not wiped before *or* after. There are pretty-much no programs installed in common on both. Both are experiencing random, spontaneous reboots. Both are experiencing lockups. I've yet to see a boot loop on the one that wasn't wiped, but that's just chance -- I'm quite certain if I left it long enough, it would boot loop too, just like the one that was wiped.
horndroid loves to try and suggest this is somehow a user problem, but it's not. It's a fundamental problem of the stock Asus ICS ROM.
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Yea it's definitely something that will be patched by Asus. I have the random reboots and the flickering screen.
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I had a small problem when I updated my asus tf. Sometimes. when I pressed the home button, all the icons disappeard and I couldn´t do almost nothing with the launcher.
Then I decided to do a factory reset and now all is going well on my transformer
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horndroid loves to try and suggest this is somehow a user problem, but it's not.
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Yeah. It is hard not to notice this in about everyone of his replies. I am glad his works, but a growing majority of people it does not.
So i hope this anticipated fix which ASUS is rolling out NW fixes the probs-- Hum!! I seem to recall being called out as spreading rumors in another thread about the ASUS fix. - Well like i said the fix is on its way.
No wipe from rooted stock ... the odd second of screen flicker when running onskreen but nothing to cry about. All good really
My EEE Pad was running like **** (i.e. sleep of death, rapid drain, huge lag, random reboot) I have upgraded from stock 3.2 without performing factory reset.
I tried cold boot and that did not help anything.
So I took the plunge and did full wipe + cold boot. So far have not had a single issue. Just FYI.
Mine actually appears to be getting worse and worse, quickly. The stock apps are going o pieces. Google Maps repeatably crashes if I zoom in beyond a certain level, or if I enable the satellite view layer. Gmail is near-unusable -- email counts are frequently incorrect, or are correct but new emails that are visible through a web browser don't show up when you reload in the app, the app repeatably crashes when I click on certain email threads to view them, and randomly crashes at other times, sometimes within seconds of opening the app in the first place. Google Reader likewise often locks up, doesn't mark posts as read when you click on them, doesn't reload posts correctly, etc.
It's *only* the Google apps that are misbehaving; well, other than the OS itself regularly, randomly rebooting, freezing, or getting stuck in boot loops, this is.
And this is all on a stock, unrooted TF101 that has relatively few apps installed, and was wiped both before and after the ICS update.
Looks like when this new patch arrives, I'll be wiping and starting from scratch yet again, in the hopes of resolving this mess.
Maybe it's just me, but, ever since the update, my phone is very laggy. The built in app manager consistently shows 1.2 gigs or more in use, even if I use the clean memory button. The home button is slow to respond, and apps don't scroll smoothly anymore. This is the official release by Verizon, and I can honestly say that I am not impressed by it. I have done a cache clear, and a master reset. Nothing has solved the issue.
Thank you in advance,
Section 8
section8ff said:
Maybe it's just me, but, ever since the update, my phone is very laggy. The built in app manager consistently shows 1.2 gigs or more in use, even if I use the clean memory button. The home button is slow to respond, and apps don't scroll smoothly anymore. This is the official release by Verizon, and I can honestly say that I am not impressed by it. I have done a cache clear, and a master reset. Nothing has solved the issue.
Thank you in advance,
Section 8
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You're one of the few who is having issues with the update, most people are completely happy with it. Have you done a factory reset to see if that fixes your issues?
airmaxx23 said:
You're one of the few who is having issues with the update, most people are completely happy with it. Have you done a factory reset to see if that fixes your issues?
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I've tried a complete factory reset, as well as a cache clear, still laggy. Thank you for your reply
section8ff said:
Maybe it's just me, but, ever since the update, my phone is very laggy. The built in app manager consistently shows 1.2 gigs or more in use, even if I use the clean memory button. The home button is slow to respond, and apps don't scroll smoothly anymore. This is the official release by Verizon, and I can honestly say that I am not impressed by it. I have done a cache clear, and a master reset. Nothing has solved the issue.
Thank you in advance,
Section 8
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You are not alone. Samsung was replacing the Note 3's with brand new replacements for people with major issues (per factory rep) until they decided this is a Verizon issue. The ATT and Sprint Note 3's are doing just fine as well as many Verizon units, however there are some major glitches for many of us with the Verizon build. I also performed cache clear and several factory wipes to no avail. (my main issue is with signal stability especially in fringe areas where I have ZERO coverage)
I just received a brand new - not refurb - replacement from Verizon after many conversations with Best Buy geek squad, Samsung and Verizon. Verizon will send you a brand new phone that will have Jellybean if you are persistent: :good:
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You are not alone. Samsung was replacing the Note 3's with brand new replacements for people with major issues (per factory rep) until they decided this is a Verizon issue. The ATT and Sprint Note 3's are doing just fine as well as many Verizon units, however there are some major glitches for many of us with the Verizon build. I also performed cache clear and several factory wipes to no avail. (my main issue is with signal stability especially in fringe areas where I have ZERO coverage)
I just received a brand new - not refurb - replacement from Verizon after many conversations with Best Buy geek squad, Samsung and Verizon. Verizon will send you a brand new phone that will have Jellybean if you are persistent: :good:
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Thank you for the info, I'm glad I'm not the only one having issues. I've never had any signal issues, if anything, my signal reception is better than it was before. I'll see about maybe getting a new handset, something has to change, I don't think I've ever had issues with an update, usually the phone was just bad out of the box...the photon being one of those...
Issues
I too am having issues. They are random, but they have repeated during different app use and in different areas. My stock browser will lock up the phone (only a battery pull clears it). My stock email app only opens 1/2 my folders and gives me errors when it tries to open pdf files. My screen gets laggy. It randomly adds letters to words I am trying to correct when typing on forums like this. My touch screen gets real inaccurate randomly. And randomly it loses 1/2 the screen when rotating from landscape to portrait (with multi window turned off). I have done the cache clearing multiple times and have done a factory reset as well...with no help. Such a shame, none of this happened before the update. It has turned this usable tool into a frustrating paperweight. I guess I will have to bounce this off of a Verizon rep's head and get a new one. I tried rooting before the update, but every rooting technique failed...then one night, after I told the update to delay...it updated anyway while I was sleeping.
I've searched and all I can find is the backlight not working. That's not my issue. The buttons don't light and nothing happens when I press them. I flashed CM to see if it was just a software issue. They still don't work at all. Any idea how I might possibly be able to address this? Don't think variant matters but it's the G900R4 if anyone's interested.
Solved. I bit the bullet and did a full restore to stock w/ Odin. I haven't the slightest idea what got grumpy but it was something that lived through wiping the usual stuff. Glad I had enough sense to do a backup just before doing all this.
Lesson of the day: Always maintain a current backup. You never know when you might have to send it to hell and start fresh.
Verizon pushed out the lollipop update recently and I updated mine Feb 4.
Immediately afterwards I started having problems. The phone is overheating, closing/freezing apps randomly and showing a com.sec.imsservice has stopped error so frequently my phone is frequently not even able to be used. I am also having some mobile data connectivity issues. I don't know how many of these things are related to just one issue. The combination of them are giving me such hardcore battery drain that my phone is dead in about 2-3 hours from 100%.
Things I have already done so far...
Uninstalled facebook messenger
cleared cache for aVVRU1BOA8ll apps
uninstalled apps I am not using
I have searched several forum sites about this matter. Some people have said a factory reset has helped them, while others are saying it didn't make any difference at all.
Any ideas are greatly appreciated. I have attached about phone screenshots.
After a major system update I ALWAYS perform a reset just to make sure all the old OS data is gone. It helped my phone tremendously this go round.
I am calling this resolved!
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After a major system update I ALWAYS perform a reset just to make sure all the old OS data is gone. It helped my phone tremendously this go round.
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Well, I am happy to say that the reset helped me a lot actually. =) Thank you! =) I have no idea why it has helped some and not others but oh well. It did help me so I am happy!