When I see all these posts about problems, I honestly can not relate at all because my TF101 with ICS literally has no problems at all. I've downloaded about 30 apps so far.
Other people who say they have no problems also usually mention that they did a factory reset before upgrading to ICS.
Just a coincidence?
I did and haven't had as many issues as others....some tho - tearing when expanding the recent app list, some random app crashes that I'm blaming on the apps....I did have a reboot cycle yesterday after waking up on battery from the dock...a cold boot remedied that.....other than that it's been a good update....
mines running smooooth as well, I did a full wipe so doing a factory rest didnt make sense to me. I'm running AR HD..
No factory reset for me and I'm good so far.. well I just got it back from Asus, I think they might have done one lol
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mines running smooooth as well, I did a full wipe so doing a factory rest didnt make sense to me. I'm running AR HD..
No factory reset for me and I'm good so far.. well I just got it back from Asus, I think they might have done one lol
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full wipe does what factory reset does plus more.... so you did do factory reset. Can't believe you are taking it that literally.
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Did you do a factory reset before upgrading to ICS?
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Nope. And I upgraded directly from a custom ROM.
100+ apps installed before the upgrade and running great afterwards: no random reboots, battery draining or app crashing. The only issue I have is with Chrome occasionally locking up. However I attribute that to its BETA status.
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Perhaps ... perhaps not. A problem-free ICS upgrade, however, is not the sole provenance of those who factory reset/full wipe.
--L.
I did a full wipe when updating to ICS. Was fine for the first few days and now I have reboots/shutdowns maybe once a day. I had battery drain once as well. Its actually been pretty good other than that but I have kept it pretty standard with only a few apps as I am waiting for some better ROMS to come out with fixes.
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I did not wipe or factory reset. Have had one LOD 3 hours into sleep mode, one boot loop when I pulled out the SD card and one spontaneous reboot soon after coming out of sleep mode and rotating from landscape to portrait. Have had various Google app issues that are working themselves out.
I was prepared to wipe after I took the OTA, but haven't because I have had zero issues. I use my tf101 everyday, and it hasn't locked up or randomly rebooted once. I have about 60 apps installed.
Nope. I just hit update.
I've had the weird shutdown during sleep only once since first day update was available for USA.
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I only had an error that Android media closed out something like that for the first few days after update.
Clearing caches in my music apps seemed to work at first. Now that is back and my tf had been shutting down while in sleep. Just put it down to sleep for about 20 mins came back to Android logo on the screen with the circle froze.
It seems like this is getting worse for mine. tried everything but a wipe. Stock has not been rooted.
have always been on stock since the beginning. Never had any major issues. Was considering rooting to get cornerstone when it is stable.
Until than what other options can fix the reboots.
For some reason on honeycomb downloading something or the honeycomb status bar would always flash and mess up. I downloaded lots of stuff and tweaked it so that might be why. I wiped after coming from revolver and went to stock ICS. When it updated it was crazy slow and laggy. After every app was restored from the market I reset it and it FLEW. It just flies in terms of speed.
When I did my titanium restore I restored EVERYTHING. Not just apps but system data as well. When I did that I noticed it was slower and laggy and that notifications and download gitch was present.
I did factory reset again and only restored the app data this time and it's perfect now. No more lag or anything. Titanium back ups are fine and everything but if you were currently having lag or weird problems restoring the system settings doesn't help. I did not need them anyways. I love ICS. I really love how we get the status/notification bar that the prime has. Also the sony tablet and other tablets now have the little box markers at the top which let you know what page you are on. I'm glad we get that now as part of ICS too.
Factory reset definitely helps. Also I got to see that cool droid restoration image when it was resetting everything. I have never seen that before and it looked awesome.
no factory reset, Everything working good
This thread is complete nonsense, and to prove it, I have two TF101 tablets here. One was wiped before *and* after the ICS update, and had almost nothing reinstalled on it. The other was not wiped before *or* after. There are pretty-much no programs installed in common on both. Both are experiencing random, spontaneous reboots. Both are experiencing lockups. I've yet to see a boot loop on the one that wasn't wiped, but that's just chance -- I'm quite certain if I left it long enough, it would boot loop too, just like the one that was wiped.
horndroid loves to try and suggest this is somehow a user problem, but it's not. It's a fundamental problem of the stock Asus ICS ROM.
My result;
Normal upgrade from HC to ICS = strange behauvor and reboots.
Factory reset and upgrade to ICS = works like a dream, no big complains...
After ICS I have notice that some times ( one or maybe two times a day) screen is flash /flickering - but only for a micro second. Statusbar sometimes flickering when open, but not a big deal...
I have about 200 apps installede, many from 2 parts Market ( read Aptoide)
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My result;
Normal upgrade from HC to ICS = strange behauvor and reboot.
Factory reset and upgrade to ICS = works like a dream!
After ICS I have notice that some times ( one or maybe two times a day) screen is flash /flickering for a micro second. Have you observed this?
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This thread is complete nonsense, and to prove it, I have two TF101 tablets here. One was wiped before *and* after the ICS update, and had almost nothing reinstalled on it. The other was not wiped before *or* after. There are pretty-much no programs installed in common on both. Both are experiencing random, spontaneous reboots. Both are experiencing lockups. I've yet to see a boot loop on the one that wasn't wiped, but that's just chance -- I'm quite certain if I left it long enough, it would boot loop too, just like the one that was wiped.
horndroid loves to try and suggest this is somehow a user problem, but it's not. It's a fundamental problem of the stock Asus ICS ROM.
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Yea it's definitely something that will be patched by Asus. I have the random reboots and the flickering screen.
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I had a small problem when I updated my asus tf. Sometimes. when I pressed the home button, all the icons disappeard and I couldn´t do almost nothing with the launcher.
Then I decided to do a factory reset and now all is going well on my transformer
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Yeah. It is hard not to notice this in about everyone of his replies. I am glad his works, but a growing majority of people it does not.
So i hope this anticipated fix which ASUS is rolling out NW fixes the probs-- Hum!! I seem to recall being called out as spreading rumors in another thread about the ASUS fix. - Well like i said the fix is on its way.
No wipe from rooted stock ... the odd second of screen flicker when running onskreen but nothing to cry about. All good really
My EEE Pad was running like **** (i.e. sleep of death, rapid drain, huge lag, random reboot) I have upgraded from stock 3.2 without performing factory reset.
I tried cold boot and that did not help anything.
So I took the plunge and did full wipe + cold boot. So far have not had a single issue. Just FYI.
Mine actually appears to be getting worse and worse, quickly. The stock apps are going o pieces. Google Maps repeatably crashes if I zoom in beyond a certain level, or if I enable the satellite view layer. Gmail is near-unusable -- email counts are frequently incorrect, or are correct but new emails that are visible through a web browser don't show up when you reload in the app, the app repeatably crashes when I click on certain email threads to view them, and randomly crashes at other times, sometimes within seconds of opening the app in the first place. Google Reader likewise often locks up, doesn't mark posts as read when you click on them, doesn't reload posts correctly, etc.
It's *only* the Google apps that are misbehaving; well, other than the OS itself regularly, randomly rebooting, freezing, or getting stuck in boot loops, this is.
And this is all on a stock, unrooted TF101 that has relatively few apps installed, and was wiped both before and after the ICS update.
Looks like when this new patch arrives, I'll be wiping and starting from scratch yet again, in the hopes of resolving this mess.
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After recent update, within 24hrs, my transformer has frozen completely three times. This is where I have to hold down the power 10+ sec and turn the unit back on. One time, about 40min watching a video via hbogo website. One playing a game (walkabout) and another time, just playing mp3 from the main screen via a widget.
Has anyone else experience this? Never happened on prior firmware versions.
Keyboard flash problem
I don't know if this can help: after firmware upgrade my browser crash if i try to tipe something in a flash animation, keyboard isn't show and then crash.
Exactly the same experience here: with 3.01 I had no problems at all; since OTA update 3.1 two days ago 'sleep of death' (shutdown in sleep mode) all the time!
Very annoying, according to other threads/ forums SOD was SOLVED for couple of guys with 3.1 update - I just received my SOD with 3.1!
Thanks Asus; I do hope someone/ somewhere is working on a fix!
In the meanwhile: any help/ solution for SOD (except downgrading/ rooting) would be very wellcome!
TF101, US, stock 3.1 unrooted
Same here with some Apps. MyLibrary was working fine on a pdf, now it freezes and crash all the time. Impossible to read anything anymore.
Battery seems to be drained faster too.
Since I have gotten the update the tablet is very sluggish. It was perfect before. I had no light bleed and it was very smooth. Now I have a ton of light bleed and it is so sluggish it almost takes 4 mins to connect to the internet. Anyone know the customer support number?
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Since I have gotten the update the tablet is very sluggish. It was perfect before. I had no light bleed and it was very smooth. Now I have a ton of light bleed and it is so sluggish it almost takes 4 mins to connect to the internet. Anyone know the customer support number?
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software has nothing to do with your hardware screen showing more lightbleed, other than if the brightnessis higher which may show it better.
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software has nothing to do with your hardware screen showing more lightbleed, other than if the brightnessis higher which may show it better.
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I don't disagree, but the fact is that I didn't see it before now it is terrible. I thought I had a "good one". Oh well.
In general last update has improved performance, allows more variety ( file types) in video streaming from my server, slightly better browser performance and slightly better wifi reception, however I have noticed a few lock ups that were not there before last update. Long Power button hold required to recover.
I'm having the freeze problem in Firefox after the update. it will work for a bit, but some sites will cause the tablet to lock up and I have to do the power off reboot. The stock browser is working fine.
On another forum they were saying it's pure superstition, but..: turning OFF the auto brightness has prevented sleep of death on my Transformer (SODs since update 3.1) allready about a day!
I know people say it's nonsense, but for anyone else struggling with auto shutdown in sleep mode problem; give it a try!
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After recent update, within 24hrs, my transformer has frozen completely three times. This is where I have to hold down the power 10+ sec and turn the unit back on. One time, about 40min watching a video via hbogo website. One playing a game (walkabout) and another time, just playing mp3 from the main screen via a widget.
Has anyone else experience this? Never happened on prior firmware versions.
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I've had four freezes, all in Press Reader tablet edition, and was thinking they were related to that app specifically, but maybe not. Reason being, my wife got her first freeze last night playing angry birds.
My freezes in Press Reader are not caused by the update, though, as two of them happened before the update was released. Also, I've discovered though that it is only the UI that is freezing, because on one freeze I had internet radio playing, and it kept playing for multiple minutes after the UI for froze.
More on my Press Reader freezes here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15741085&postcount=7
Do freeze issues go away if you clear all caches / factory reset?
Reason I ask, is this has helped me in the past, so I always do one, including right after this recent OTA update...
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Huh, I've not had any problems. My 32gb TF is a B50, and dock is a B60. I usually have it connected to the dock.
I've had my ASUS Transformer for about 4 days now, never had any freezes yet, not with nor without the update (updated yesterday).
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Do freeze issues go away if you clear all caches / factory reset?
Reason I ask, is this has helped me in the past, so I always do one, including right after this recent OTA update...
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Can't speak to the other people, but I'm not trying because it's such a [email protected]*dy hassle to do a factory reset, when there's no way to back everything up in one go without root access.
Backup is definitely a major shortcoming of Android.
+1 to the sleep of death issue aft the 7/16 update. Screen will go off and tablet will either reboot or need a reboot.
I have had my auto brightness off since day 1, kept default brightness, and have been lucky with no issues. Still on 3.1.
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I have had my auto brightness off since day 1, kept default brightness, and have been lucky with no issues. Still on 3.1.
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3.1 is the latest.. of course you're still on 3.1
Try changing the rom and kernel. The Netformer kernel seems the fastest and smoothest. I had the screen freezes also. Running Clem's v3rom for 8.4.4.11 then flashed the Netformer over instead of using Clem's kernel.
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+1 to the sleep of death issue aft the 7/16 update. Screen will go off and tablet will either reboot or need a reboot.
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We're not talking sleep of death here, we're talking lockups while the tablet is active. Totally different issue, or at least totally different symptom.
So this morning I got a call from a friend who told me that his TF is running like crap after doing OTA upgrade to ICS.
We met up at school and I got to take a look at it. Yes, it was indeed running like crap and it even randomly rebooted while we were eating breakfast. He told me the random reboots were happening every 3-5 hours(that he could notice).
Here's what I did to fix it.
Removed his MicroSD card(not sure if necessary)
Shut down TF.
Hold [volume down] and [power] button together until you get into reset mode with 2 icons in the center of screen. Left icon is Wipe Data. Right icon is Cold boot. Right icon is selected by default.
Press [volume down] to highlight the LEFT ICON, which is Wipe Data.
Press [volume up] to confirm your selection
Go through the process.
Let your TF reboot.
Shut down TF again.
Hold [volume down] and [power] button together until you get into reset mode with 2 icons in the center of screen.
You need to do cold boot. It's already selected by default so just wait like 10 seconds and it will happen automatically. Press [volume up] if you don't want to wait.
Go through the process. Your TF will reboot afterwards.
Done.
It has been over 24 hours and his TF has been running smooth without any glitches or any random reboot. I told him to let me know immediately if a random reboot happens again.
This is simple to do. Worth trying unless you can't read English.
Edit: I didn't include this at first because I thought it would be common sense for everyone but it apparently isn't....
DO NOT JUST RESTORE ALL YOUR PREVIOUS APPS AND WIDGETS YOU HAD FROM HONEYCOMB. THAT DEFEATS THE ENTIRE PURPOSE OF DOING A RESET AND PREVENTING APP INCOMPATIBILITY.
thnx man for sharing . I actually tried every thing to solve this issue but no luck , I'll try your as sson as i go home .
This did indeed work for me as well. I tried this a couple days ago and I have yet to have any freezes or random reboots. I think that not restoring any backed up data, apps or settings is key to fixing the problem. I'm now very happy with ICS- burn in hell Honeycomb.
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When you switch from a version like HC. This is what you exactly should do!
I did this and never experienced random reboots.
My Transformer is running since three days and everything works fine!
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Another quick hint:
If you want to work with Google Docs, you have to disable Forced Hardware Rendering!
I see on forum the problem is google+
So I removed google+... Wait and see...
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I see on forum the problem is google+
So I removed google+... Wait and see...
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.....lol, why post in this thread that you are not going to follow the advice of the Op?.......
Sorry to say but this is not working, already done this since the minute it was out and still have so now and then a hang boot
(random reboots that hangs on the boot)
Giving it a try
I am experiencing random reboots after ICS
Wiped transformer, cold booted, and installed the following.
Adobe Reader
Dog Catcher
updated G+ and GMail but have not run it.
Charging now, I will let you know.
Previously I had wiped it and reinstalled all, disabled syncing, disabled location info, adjusted wi-fi settings, and added CPU throttle control obviously none worked.
It might have helped some people, but it did not help me. Unless it was dogcatcher.
5 or so minutes after unhooking it from the charger, I tried to wake it. And it was unresponsive. Was only able to wake it by holding down the vol down and power button at the same time.
I will kill off Dogcatcher and try again but it is not looking so good.
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It might have helped some people, but it did not help me. Unless it was dogcatcher.
5 or so minutes after unhooking it from the charger, I tried to wake it. And it was unresponsive. Was only able to wake it by holding down the vol down and power button at the same time.
I will kill off Dogcatcher and try again but it is not looking so good.
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why are you installing dogcatcher? And this does work.. do it again. Don't install your apps.enusre it dos not lock up before you install anything.... If it locks up before you install any apps then call Asus. If not start installing one app at a time. Wait after each install. Ensure that its not doing it, once you are sure install Another ....rinse/repeat....
I installed dogcatcher because I needed something to listen to on the way in to work. I have uninstalled it. But I doubt that is the issue.
I have had these sorts of reboots on my Transformer until the third or fourth Honeycomb update. But eventually they fixed it. I suspected this would happen again.
Considering that dogcatcher one of the most popular podcast apps on the market I suspect that there are many people with no problems using it just fine.
But since I need a podcast listener to be able to use the device as I want to, does anyone without issues have a podcast listener that they use?
2 hours into the last experiment and it died again while sleeping.
So that about sums it up. This procedure might help with some issues Transformer's are having but not all.
Recap. Wiped, cold booted, gmail setup, G+ updated still equals failure.
I love how horndroid 'solved' this issue and then goes on the belittle people who are still having it as 'stupid', and probably their own fault. Horndroid, I appreciate your attempt to contribute, but your attitude and stabbing-in-the-dark protocol is not becoming nor helpful to anyone. Definitive statements pertaining to ONE TF101 device that you own are quite naive, there are several different models, and until you have personal access to each model version you should advertise your 'solutions' as "worked for ME", and understand if it doesn't work with others it isn't THEIR fault..this is not a blanket solution for every device's reboot problems. In fact, I am willing to bet the reboots being resolved by this method are of an entirely different genesis than the reboots that I and others are experiencing (hang-boots).
I hear what you are saying I have the reboot issue as well.
I did a reset before and after and only installed xda HD and ran it for 2 days and got 3 reboots so I did the cold boot and then it did it 2 more times that day. Earlier today I almost couldn't get out of the boot loop, so I wouldn't say its a app problem its something wrong with the firmware somewhere
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Some aren't too lazy we just don't want to wipe data after every update. I think i have gotten 4? OTA updates and 2 of them screwed up deep sleep while docked. Guess what the first trouble shooting step was...wipe data. Guess what worked...the next OTA. I don't have time to read through all the different threads on the same subject but are people that flashed through cmw instead of ota having the same issue? My buddy went this route and has no issues.
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Can't read horndroid's "advice", because I have him on ignore for trolling, and have done for ages. From the tone of other posts here, it seems the "solution" is to wipe; if that's actually the case, it's total BS.
I wiped immediately before upgrading to ICS, wiped again afterwards, and have put almost no programs back on. I am and always have been on stock firmware and unrooted. I had no problems with boot loops, no problems with lockups, and only extremely rare problems with spontaneous reboots using Honeycomb. With ICS, I have had all three problems in a matter of days, and the lockups / spontaneous reboots are fairly regular (1-2 times per day.)
This is a problem with the stock rom, not a user app problem.
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Can't read horndroid's "advice", because I have him on ignore for trolling, and have done for ages. From the tone of other posts here, it seems the "solution" is to wipe; if that's actually the case, it's total BS.
I wiped immediately before upgrading to ICS, wiped again afterwards, and have put almost no programs back on. I am and always have been on stock firmware and unrooted. I had no problems with boot loops, no problems with lockups, and only extremely rare problems with spontaneous reboots using Honeycomb. With ICS, I have had all three problems in a matter of days, and the lockups / spontaneous reboots are fairly regular (1-2 times per day.)
This is a problem with the stock rom, not a user app problem.
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I reported him for verbal abuse and foul language. His attitude is not helpful, and if I were a mod he'd be gone already to think long and hard about his conduct. Anyways, taken your advice and blocked him. It is obviously an issue with the ROM, I'm beginning to think it has something to do with deep sleep, others posited that it may be media scanner, maybe combination of both? Maybe these two events are trying to happen at once and it doesn't like it.. a stab in the dark at least..
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I reported him for verbal abuse and foul language. His attitude is not helpful, and if I were a mod he'd be gone already to think long and hard about his conduct. Anyways, taken your advice and blocked him. It is obviously an issue with the ROM, I'm beginning to think it has something to do with deep sleep, others posited that it may be media scanner, maybe combination of both? Maybe these two events are trying to happen at once and it doesn't like it.. a stab in the dark at least..
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It's hilarious how you think YOUR problem is the only problem that everyone is experiencing.
For a lot of people, it was the app incompatibility that was causing them issues.
Obviously you think your problems are caused by something different, but that doesn't mean there are different problems caused by other reasons.
While all of you are speculating, at least I've posted a solution(even though it's merely doing a data wipe and cold boot, pretty much common sense) that has been proven to work for a lot of people. I've never claimed it will work for everyone; just those having problems due to app incompatibility.
I'm pretty sure this is an issue with the update itself and all these "fixes" are going to be pointless in a little while when an actual fix is released by Asus.
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.. & I'm just not sure if i should return it or if these issues are pretty much whats expected.
I have not upgraded to ICS from HC
Problems so far:
1. Re-booted twice on first day i had it. I'd been using it all day (installing/using apps etc) - I used it all day 2 days after that w/out issue.
2. Re-booted last night? Not sure exactly but there were no apps suspended in the bg from the night before (~8 hours before) - i had quite a few in the bg
3. 2 out of 3 times so far if i "shut down" *the power button will not power it back on* - i have to plug it into the wall/power for it to turn back on
They aren't the worst issues..yet? I don't know.. I'm pretty happy with HC at the moment & will probly avoid ICS upgrade for a bit.
Stick with it?
#3 is not supposed to happen.
#1 and #2, it depends on exactly which version of the Honeycomb firmwares you are running. Honeycomb 3.2.1 didn't do those for me, but the versions pre-3.2.1 had occasional incidents.
It's 3.2.1
We can assume that you know that you have to hold the button down for three seconds to power it on when it's completely off. Therefore, I would see about swapping it because #3 sounds like a major problem.
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We can assume that you know that you have to hold the button down for three seconds to power it on when it's completely off. Therefore, I would see about swapping it because #3 sounds like a major problem.
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Yeah i just shut it down again and it would not come on until plugging into the wall. Problem seems pretty consistent. Ugh i really don't want to have to go through this.
QUESTION: how can i pretty much wipe this device of the apps/personal info i've entered into it before sending it back?
QUESTION: Try ICS then if i'm gonna ship it back anyways?
To wipe the device, you run "Factory Reset Data" in the Settings.
Sure, might as well try out ICS if you're curious.
Sometimes when mine gets a random reboot/shutdown I have to hold the power button down for about 10 seconds to turn it on. Try this if you haven't already.
yeah the power button issue may be it not being totally shut off, so when you hold power you are shutting it down instead of starting it. happened to me a few times so figured it was worth a mention.
Thanks for the suggestions guys. Although it's a bit inconsistent on whether or not i have to hold it down for 3 seconds or 10+ one way or another (after a struggle) it does appear to consistently come up. Emphasis on struggle though.
Have you tried any custom roms yet? I personally seem to have a more stable tablet when using a custom rom due to the various tweaks and fixes.
Just install ICS - such a relief from Honeycomb!
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This thing decided to re-boot randomly again. So i decided to upgrade to ICS (4.0.3) - nearing last ditch efforts.
Problems came up right away:
1. Browser having strange connectivity issues? I have Wifi Analyzer and watching the scrolling graph i don't see any dropping or problems with the connection itself. So i'm not sure what the situation is but sometimes it just doesn't want to load pages - I can't fully say if Dolphin has the same problems or not.
2. Screen tearing. Fairly frequently there's a diagonal tear occurring across the screen, when switching around in/out of apps.
3. The shutdown issue. This problem is at best the same, if not worse. So in hopes of shrugging off the other issues i did a "shut down" and i seriously battled with the power button and never got it to come back up w/out plugging into into the wall.
- What's interesting is how it always comes up RIGHT AWAY once it's plugged into the wall. I tried and tried and tried again with holding the power button 3-10-20-30+ seconds random intervals nothing worked. Hard to express the amount of times & different timings i tried.
So i'm gonna give it a whirl like this for a while and see.. i might end up doing a factory reset .. if problems persist after that it's going back to newegg
Edit: i just tried to play a youtube video and it stopped trying to cache 1/4th through it.. then i pulled up Aljazeea live and it's echoing/choking/stalling .. these problems didn't exist prior. Also, i noticed another streaming (scanner radio) app not doing so well earlier too... heh
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This thing decided to re-boot randomly again. So i decided to upgrade to ICS (4.0.3) - nearing last ditch efforts.
Problems came up right away:
1. Browser having strange connectivity issues? I have Wifi Analyzer and watching the scrolling graph i don't see any dropping or problems with the connection itself. So i'm not sure what the situation is but sometimes it just doesn't want to load pages - I can't fully say if Dolphin has the same problems or not.
2. Screen tearing. Fairly frequently there's a diagonal tear occurring across the screen, when switching around in/out of apps.
3. The shutdown issue. This problem is at best the same, if not worse. So in hopes of shrugging off the other issues i did a "shut down" and i seriously battled with the power button and never got it to come back up w/out plugging into into the wall.
- What's interesting is how it always comes up RIGHT AWAY once it's plugged into the wall. I tried and tried and tried again with holding the power button 3-10-20-30+ seconds random intervals nothing worked. Hard to express the amount of times & different timings i tried.
So i'm gonna give it a whirl like this for a while and see.. i might end up doing a factory reset .. if problems persist after that it's going back to newegg
Edit: i just tried to play a youtube video and it stopped trying to cache 1/4th through it.. then i pulled up Aljazeea live and it's echoing/choking/stalling .. these problems didn't exist prior. Also, i noticed another streaming (scanner radio) app not doing so well earlier too... heh
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Do a factory reset already and test it without installing any apps. You need to find out whether the problem is with hardware or software.
There's a good chance that it's a hardware problem since you got it refurbished. Maybe it was broken already and Asus didn't completely fix it.
Do yourself a favor. Root it and install the latest CM9 build. I was having all kinds of reboot and sleep issues with the stock ROM, mainly the ICS one but a few issues with HC as well. CM9 has been rock solid for me so far.
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Do yourself a favor. Root it and install a custom rom. I was having all kinds of reboot and sleep issues with the stock ROM, mainly the ICS one but a few issues with HC as well. CM9 has been rock solid for me so far.
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CM9 might not suit him, so instead he should try out several roms until he finds one hes satisfied with
Telling him to install a specific rom is fine, but it doesnt really help him out.
That said, since you brought up "rock solid", Team EOS build 19 has been really rock solid for me. Currently 202h uptime and counting.
Wow i didn't think things could get much worse but they did.
I decided to do a factory reset because generally things hadn't improved. Initially after the reset things were "OK" ("better" @ 1st but short lived)
Then a while later..
It appears the connectivity of the wireless has completely died. It will connect to wireless fine but is incapable of anything beyond that. No web pages, no connectivity/data transfer in any apps.
I did another factory reset, installed nothing, imported nothing, signed into nothing.. same issue.
Even though i have 2 other netbooks right here w/no issues at all, i tried resetting the AP multiple times. No diff.
Just before the wifi dying it was acting like it was before the reset, where things would randomly fail to stay connected, videos wouldn't fully cache, web pages wouldn't fully load etc. (general connectivity problems that didn't exist in HC, but have in ICS since update)
I think ICS was really the nail in the coffin for this thing.
Hi!
I'm suffering from reboots on my Note (also on my S2...). I call them "black" reboots because the screen becomes black, there's no start-up animation , I only hear the sound, and the home screen don't comes up, or it do it after a long delay. So, the screen is mostly black. Until 2-3 minutes pass, and reboot again.
-Sometimes occurs simply starting up the phone in the morning. I'm advised of a slow launcher load (Go Launcher, but it can occurs on TW).
If I go to System Monitor (System Panel app), I see the 2 cores working hard, toghether or alternating. The "System" app goes mad. The battery drain becomes quick, and the phone back around the camera begins to warming...
After 2-3 minutes with this behaviour, the "black" reboot comes up. Often, after rebooting, the message "Unable to run System process"- Force Close-Wait (or so) appears in the black...etc
If I force shut-off, then I wait and then shut-on again, all things seem normal, until...reboot
-Factory reset (through Recovery, of course) seems arrange all things, until I load again the apps. I've unistalled all "tweaking" apps for overclocking, Ram managing, etc. I only have Root explorer and Speed Boost as Root operating things...
- My Rom is an odex Pre-rooted XXLC1, Modem XXLB2, but the multiCSC is not from it.
How the phone can become so unstable with only the half memory app capacity occuped? (800 Mb or so of 2GB)?
And how can it often occurs on updating apps from damned Google Play Store?
Is worth to flash another Rom (not ICS...), or re-flash same with its CSC included?
Sorry if I've been too long. In my searchs I only see things about bricks or another type of reboots.
Thanks for read me!
i get these once every two weeks or so.
I also get these type of reboots, I get them on RocketROM and on previous roms I've had installed the only way I've found to get out of them is to boot into recovery and wipe the caches. Before I was rooted I removed some of the apps I'd moved to the SD Card and that sometimes stopped the boot loop. I now only update apps one by one someone suggested it was to do with the amount of apps moved to the sd card and the multiple updating of them. I'm still not sure of the cause I know its the only flaw on my Note that I'm fed up with.
Im running stock ics rom straight from samsung only with root and getting the same behaviour as yourself. About 2 to 3 times a week...
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Ive posted a poll as i also experience this issue. Can you vote on the poll here please with how many reboots you are getting etc - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1706343
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I also get these type of reboots, I get them on RocketROM and on previous roms I've had installed the only way I've found to get out of them is to boot into recovery and wipe the caches. Before I was rooted I removed some of the apps I'd moved to the SD Card and that sometimes stopped the boot loop. I now only update apps one by one someone suggested it was to do with the amount of apps moved to the sd card and the multiple updating of them. I'm still not sure of the cause I know its the only flaw on my Note that I'm fed up with.
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Im running stock ics rom straight from samsung only with root and getting the same behaviour as yourself. About 2 to 3 times a week...
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Guys, i don't know if I'm going to cry of pain or to laugh of huge joy, after seeing this is almost ..."normal"
We have a beautiful 500€ plastic and metal block which is unable to perform the half of things it's supposed to do! And we don't know exactly why...
Sure I do wipes, but most of times this fixes nothing, and the reboot returns.
If I re-install with Titanium, I am very careful unsellecting into the batch which things can cause problems, installing only a few apps.
After some days, I go on installing manually some others.
The Play updates are critical, as I see... Why? How it's possible that this "beasts" with so much RAM and so much App Memory (2 GB on S2 and Note!) fail down handling its management, with their super 2 core CPU's?
It's too serious. How we can live with a 500€ phone rebooting bad 2 times a week?
Can you imagine that on your computer, forcing you to re-install OS and apps once or twice a week? It's crazy. Is Android going crazy?
Maybe Samsung don't like Root users? Have HTC same problem?
There's someone with a non rooted phone with same problem?
Are you guys running stock? Had custom rom installed or still have?
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Are you guys running stock? Had custom rom installed or still have?
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I have this Rom, based on strict stock, but rooted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24690725&postcount=154
Mine is the XXLC1
No tweaks, no overclocking, no CWM...
I had the same problem when my GN was on rooted LC1. I disappeared after I made a factory reset and let my apps reinstall by Play Store.
Yes me too got out of this strange reboot by a factory reset today morning.
Something is messed up .....
Very difficult to find that something ...
better idea would be a factory reset .....
I think the problem is with the Stock Samsung Rom, it doesnt happen in CM9 Roms. I had this problems wen on ROcket rom, but vanished when on Asylum Rom.
go wild...
"I had the same problem when my GN was on rooted LC1. It disappeared after I made a factory reset and let my apps reinstall by Play Store"
Thanks, milesabords, I'll try that the...(glappps) next time.
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prabhu1980 said:
Yes me too got out of this strange reboot by a factory reset today morning.
Something is messed up .....
Very difficult to find that something ...
better idea would be a factory reset .....
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Yesss, very difficult. I'm not on advanced technical stuff, but my intuition says that is something deep inside the Rom, something that is related to CPU-Memory management.
By the way, do you have/had many apps (250+)? Have you made recently massive update and/or installing apps, or massive "App to SD" moves?
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I think the problem is with the Stock Samsung Rom, it doesnt happen in CM9 Roms. I had this problems wen on ROcket rom, but vanished when on Asylum Rom.
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You are pushing me a little step more to the wild side of Android.... Here I'll go!
It seems to me that the Note is a strangely different phone of, say, S2. Some apparently "simple" apps that I carry on from 2 years ago don't run right.
And the little lags that sometimes appear on touching icons, never, never appear on the fast S2.
Lol be carefully factory on ICS resetting...
Try and official rom, haven't seen it myself
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Lol be carefully factory on ICS resetting...
Try and official rom, haven't seen it myself
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Don't worry, baz77, I don't touch ICS by now even with gloves & calipers...
I've been really interested in finding the cause of these reboots and bootloops that are affecting many people. Right out of the box, the tablet does 2 updates and somewhere things go south. The tablet starts rebooting at random intervals which can lead to further errors and bootloops.
Knowing a thing about Nexii devices, several people now have working tabs. The trick is reflashing the stock image or a CM rom.
My conclusion is that a big batch must have been flashed with a bad stock image. It takes a little know-how to manually reflash stock, but there are 1-Clicker PC apps that make it easier.
Anyone wanna write a little batch file that JUST automates reflashing stock image?
Also for those with rebooting or bootlooping N7s, just factory wiping isn't the fix because the files you are restoring are bad. People are wiping over and over with no better results.
Hope this info helps and I'll try to elaborate with some steps and links. The information is on XDA already, probably to some effect of such a title like "Stock Images".
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Perhaps you can compare the checksums for all the files in the bad /system against the good /system using some scripts?
An interesting project, and more than Google/ASUS are (apparently) doing for us.
I'll help in any way I can...
I have no problems believing Google will patch this soon, but in the mean time people have rebooting Nexus 7s and eventually it will go into a bootloop which requires a wipe to fix.
If someone could make a quick little PC script to grab the stock and automate the fastboot flash commands. Just a temporarily permanent solution until Google patches it.
The problem is most people using stock probably don't realize it is rebooting. Mine would reboot when idle and I'd never know unless I checked uptime. So people are grabbing their tabs and finding it off because it rebooted, corrupted, bootloops, and runs till the battery dies.
Anyone using straight stock should check their uptime status in Settings. If your Uptime looks low, it is probably rebooting in the night or when idle. If you do nothing, you risk losing your data.
Its best to backup your data files, wipe, flash a stock image, and restore your data.
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If you are talking about the random reboots, for most people, that isn't about corrupted images. I thought you were talking about some bootloop problem.
Corrupted user data from those random reboots is a possibility which maybe is what you are saying, but that will only get fixed if you fix the random reboots, which I don't believe are caused by corrupted factory images for most people.
Anyway if it really is about bad factory images, one should be able to compare good and bad and isolate the differences.
If the differences can't be located then it puts to doubt whether the theory is correct or whether one isn't looking in the right places.
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If you are talking about the random reboots, for most people, that isn't about corrupted images. I thought you were talking about some bootloop problem.
Corrupted user data from those random reboots is a possibility which maybe is what you are saying, but that will only get fixed if you fix the random reboots, which I don't believe are caused by corrupted factory images for most people.
Anyway if it really is about bad factory images, one should be able to compare good and bad and isolate the differences.
If the differences can't be located then it puts to doubt whether the theory is correct or whether one isn't looking in the right places.
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That's exactly what I'm saying. Bad images = reboots = bootloops = wipes = loss of data.
When it reboots 6 times a day, corrupted userdata is going to happen eventually.
I don't really care about "why" as much as just helping people find a solution to fix it while Google makes with a fix. The ONLY thing that fixes the reboot issue is to reflash the stock image. I'm just sharing my findings. This is what I did and with my suggestions, several others are finding success at fixing the reboots.
This fixes the reboots. Which fixes the random bootloops.
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Put it this way, I've reflashed stock images from google published tgz file many times and never gotten rid of random reboots. They eventually come back if I use Chrome. If I don't use Chrome the reboots go away. This is for MY usage pattern. Chrome may not be a trigger for everyone and likely isn't even the root cause, however I have flashed the stock images and still get random reboots.
In over 3 weeks of folks experiencing random reboots, I doubt I am the only person to have flashed the stock images and still have been able to reproduce random reboots.
Personally I like to investigate and understand why something fixes a problem. I like to understand why some procedure would fix for one person but not the next.
I would suggest flashing a CM rom. Test. Then flash back to stock. Test.
Somewhere, something gets fixed.
I also found Next Browser. Its based off Android Browser and much faster with great swipe options. I have been using both simultaneously though without fail... but chrome is going to be uninstalled here soon. Unless you need Chrome for specific purposes, its much slower then others.
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FWIW running cm10.2 nightlies and only reboots are those I intentionally do to load up a new nightly. CM's so much better than stock.
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It's unlikely that the stock factory image is the cause of random reboots.
I've flash cm10.2 nightly on mine and it still reboots every 20 minutes whenever WIFI is turned on.
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It's unlikely that the stock factory image is the cause of random reboots.
I've flash cm10.2 nightly on mine and it still reboots every 20 minutes whenever WIFI is turned on.
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Hold off for the JSS15Q update which may improve your situations...granted its for the multitouch fix but they are reporting it may fix bootlooping, albeit sacrificing custom ROMs and root temporarily. All current ROMs use the (buggy) JSS15J firmware base so when Q hits it may be the fix needed. On another note I doubt it's bad factory images, I've only had 1 random reboot in the 10 days I've had my Nexus 7. That, granted, was a bootloop which I had to factory reset for but it hasn't happened again (touch wood.)
Yeah, this hopefully all disappears after today.
If you use stock and keep track of your uptime, you might notice your N7 is rebooting quite often. I never noticed it until I found the reboot thread, and checked. It said the uptime was like 5hrs but was on all day and night (I was working). I checked again in the morning and it had a 2 hr uptime. This went on for a while. I never actually caught it reboot. It would champ through games and hours of use with no problems, then reboot when idle.
The bootloop you had was probably from the reboot issue. It reboots frequent enough and shuts down during cleanup and corrupts user data.
I've been running CM and no reboot issues/bootloops at all. So whatever it is, it is with the stock rom. Thankfully this patch is sooner then later and hopefully fixes the Multitouch AND the reboots. I think the bootloops are the result of the resets.
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Yeah, this hopefully all disappears after today.
If you use stock and keep track of your uptime, you might notice your N7 is rebooting quite often. I never noticed it until I found the reboot thread, and checked. It said the uptime was like 5hrs but was on all day and night (I was working). I checked again in the morning and it had a 2 hr uptime. This went on for a while. I never actually caught it reboot. It would champ through games and hours of use with no problems, then reboot when idle.
The bootloop you had was probably from the reboot issue. It reboots frequent enough and shuts down during cleanup and corrupts user data.
I've been running CM and no reboot issues/bootloops at all. So whatever it is, it is with the stock rom. Thankfully this patch is sooner then later and hopefully fixes the Multitouch AND the reboots. I think the bootloops are the result of the resets.
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Surprisingly no, I used Reboot Logger and there were no random reboots after I did the factory reset, the uptime was continuous, since the bootloop and factory wipe no reboots were logged (that was 5 days ago).