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something is moving in Froyo development

Hope this will be of interest for someone.
I'm Italian, and as other italian owners of nexus one with the beta of Froyo, today we found some news
First, no we can just speak for writing sms and email, when keeping pressed the search button still italian speech recognition desn't work, same when searching the web.
Second, finally now we have the google navigator, we can input the destination just speaking and works fine, we can also search the web for something and launch the navigator.
This is of course a great signal, because in my opinion if Google will be able to offer all the services that are already available for the USA customers in the others countries, then Apple will have some problem selling his next product.
Why spent 600 and more euros for a phone, that is of course well assembled and with good materials, while with 499€ you can get a phone that has much more features? The free navigator is a real killer features that we really missed.
Ciao!

Same for Germany

That isn't FroYo development. It is just the latest update to Google Maps. Added 11 more countries for navigation and more languages for voice.

Yup.
Canadians now have access to the full set of map features. Took long enough, but I am certainly grateful!

I'm actually surprised we (UK) got it before Canada.
Enjoy it though, it's great!

Now more countries can follow asinine directions from Google Nav. Enjoy!
Last weekend I gave Google Nav a try... It wanted me to drive 5 miles down a country road and drive through a gated community rather than go down the main road 50 feet away and drive half a mile to my destination. Also one time instructed me to go down a 1 way the wrong way even though Google Maps shows it clearly as 1 way (ie: it knew!)
It's a nice program, and can't beat the price, but it comes with a large grain of salt.

Clarkster said:
That isn't FroYo development. It is just the latest update to Google Maps. Added 11 more countries for navigation and more languages for voice.
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Yes and no.
They updated maps and navigation now that are going to release Froyo.
As I said they are now offering all the goodies of android also in other countries.
It's a good sign, to me looks like that with Froyo they want release a great product and now they can.
As for the navigation I'v tryied it a bit and to me looks very nice

velenox said:
Yes and no.
They updated maps and navigation now that are going to release Froyo.
As I said they are now offering all the goodies of android also in other countries.
It's a good sign, to me looks like that with Froyo they want release a great product and now they can.
As for the navigation I'v tryied it a bit and to me looks very nice
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incorrect.
This has nothing to do with Froyo. One of my phones is running android 1.6 and it got the updates

khaytsus said:
Now more countries can follow asinine directions from Google Nav. Enjoy!
Last weekend I gave Google Nav a try... It wanted me to drive 5 miles down a country road and drive through a gated community rather than go down the main road 50 feet away and drive half a mile to my destination. Also one time instructed me to go down a 1 way the wrong way even though Google Maps shows it clearly as 1 way (ie: it knew!)
It's a nice program, and can't beat the price, but it comes with a large grain of salt.
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Does this mean I shouldn't use the Navigation software?

khaytsus said:
Now more countries can follow asinine directions from Google Nav. Enjoy!
Last weekend I gave Google Nav a try... It wanted me to drive 5 miles down a country road and drive through a gated community rather than go down the main road 50 feet away and drive half a mile to my destination. Also one time instructed me to go down a 1 way the wrong way even though Google Maps shows it clearly as 1 way (ie: it knew!)
It's a nice program, and can't beat the price, but it comes with a large grain of salt.
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Ahh google maps has *some* issues but I think you either have an old version, didn't look at the alternative routes, or marked something like no tolls. Google navigation has been awesome for me, the only thing its been wrong on is the location of a couple of stores... one was on the wrong side of the street, the other was in the next shopping center. It'll get better as you can report stuff like that, which I did, and the more that use it the smaller those problems will happen. I've used it for a lot of stores though so I think you might want to give it another try with different locations and check your settings. Also make sure you updated it from the marketplace and aren't using the stock maps.

walie said:
incorrect.
One of my phones is running android 1.6 and it got the updates
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Incorrect as well.
Your phone running android 1.6 did not get the updates. Google simply modified their servers to allow Navigation in your region/country.
It has nothing to with updating the Maps version on your phone. If you are in a non nav region, you can see this simply by loading a map with directions in the USA and NAV will be available.
But you are right about is not being Froyo specific.

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Ahh google maps has *some* issues but I think you either have an old version, didn't look at the alternative routes, or marked something like no tolls. Google navigation has been awesome for me, the only thing its been wrong on is the location of a couple of stores... one was on the wrong side of the street, the other was in the next shopping center. It'll get better as you can report stuff like that, which I did, and the more that use it the smaller those problems will happen. I've used it for a lot of stores though so I think you might want to give it another try with different locations and check your settings. Also make sure you updated it from the marketplace and aren't using the stock maps.
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Yes, Google Maps is the latest, 4.2.0.. And I haven't checked any options at all in the options, I actually didn't see any when I quickly looked. Only reason I used it actually was I was using a geocaching program which popped it up for navigating to a geocache so I let it do its thing.
FYI, this isn't a case of "geocache in the middle of nowhere" in case you're familiar with it, navigation to them can be tricky or wind up in the wrong spot. Nothing like that, I was actually leaving one place and driving to another one a few miles away and it was telling me to drive way out of the way down a narrow road then left into a closed gated community.
Later I was driving downtown and it suggested I turn into a 1 way street...

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Does this mean I shouldn't use the Navigation software?
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I would say use it, with common sense. Just like any navigational software.

How's the navigation compared to other competitions such as Nokia's Ovi Maps and Bing Maps?

perhaps I have not expressed my idea very well. I thought that before releasing Froyo, Google wanted to make all services already available in USA, also in other countries. This make sense, because in Europe we missed this features, voice search, navigation, etcetera...
So why release Froyo without offering all the goodies also in other countries?
If Froyo will be released tomorrow I'll be very happy to enjoy the new software, but honestly I'm happy for the navigator totally integrated with the phone.

Guys, please post in appropriate threads instead of starting a new one.
Google Maps Navigation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698539
Speculation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696736
Let's help keep the forum clean and organized, which benefits everyone.
Thanks!

Gps

Why do people need gps on their phones? this is a serious question
I have never needed or used gps in my life
I like using maps better I guess
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My biggest uses:
Find restaurants/activities near me to try new things (or in a new location)
Geo-caching - fun way to hike
Navigation - maps are dangerous and slow to use in a car, annoying to carry, and out of date depending on your source. Phones aren't the best for this but Android's Navigation is basically the cream of the crop.

Um if you dont know what good a gps is you really need to get into the tech. age.
I use it for EVERYTHING.
The real key is that I use google maps to look up anyone or anything around me. My friends all use latitude on weekend nights so we can find each other. If my gps doesn't show where I am how are friends supposed to find me?
I use it for pizza on a random night... or out on the boat when I'm going to a restaurant on the water.....or on a Friday afternoon when traffic is horrible and I want an alternate route.
There's plenty of reasons why the GPS NEEDS TO ACTUALLY WORK on this phone.

Well I'm not making an excuse for the gps problems I just have never needed gps is all
barely any of my friends have an android phone
Still stuck on blackberry and feature phones
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I use GPS to navigate around unfamiliar locations. I cannot memorize the entirety of the planet's geography so I must rely on tools to bridge this particular shortcoming and I cannot safely read a map while driving.
What the hell did you expect?

Just hoping for something I could use
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Google navigation is the best, ur in an unfamiliar city,got the munchies, u long press search button and say "navigate to subway" and voila! Ur guided to ur destination. And u hear oooh and aaah from ur buddies...
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<3me said:
Why do people need gps on their phones? this is a serious question
I have never needed or used gps in my life
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Gosh. Where to start: Geocaching; geotagging photos ("the accident|family snapshot|scenery is right here"); tracking athletic runs (Cardio Trainer, etc); self-geocoding of addresses to avoid intellectual property issues with online geocoding sources; geocoding any physical object surveyed for a multitude of GIS applications and databases; "I am here" apps for emergency use; wardriving; geo-based social networking; geo-based shopping (Barcoder, Shop Savvy, etc.); calibrating speedometer and odometer; orienteering; mapping trails; tracking hikes and bike rides; of course, real-time vehicular navigation; recording and analyzing delivery routes ...
The list is really open-ended, and is expanding as democratized GIS, mapping, and GPS functionalities expand.
The integration of GPS with other technologies on the "phone" -- really a pocket computer that happens to make phone calls and is enhanced by cell-based GPS hybrid location and thus orders of magnitude more useful than a dedicated GPS receiver-- is what provides the power. I can be driving down the highway at lunch, speak "Taco Bell" into my phone, and it will find the closest choices with directions on a dynamic map.
This is why an accurate and functioning GPS is integral to Android smartphones. It enables things you didn't even conceive of, and services still being invented.

Geographically-based "to do" items, so the phone alerts you when you're getting off the freeway and reminds you to stop at the grocery store to buy toilet paper and cat food on the way home from work.
Location-aware ringer preferences. At the office, it turns down the ringer volume so half the floor doesn't hear the theme from The Great Giana Sisters (starting at 2:18) performed by Machinae Supremacy whenever somebody calls

kynetx said:
I use GPS to navigate around unfamiliar locations. I cannot memorize the entirety of the planet's geography so I must rely on tools to bridge this particular shortcoming and I cannot safely read a map while driving.
What the hell did you expect?
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+1
Also not having to have a gps in your car that you worry about someone seeing and stealing

Bigjim1488 said:
+1
Also not having to have a gps in your car that you worry about someone seeing and stealing
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i dont ever go anywhere without knowing where im going

Well when visiting another state it isn't always possible to have intimate personal knowledge of places.
EDIT:Quote function of application isn't working.
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Lol....I always say the same thing to my wife...I took of off my phone. Personally I think the **** is a waste on a phone. I can find almost anything I need without it. Although I am not one who travels throughout the country or has to make business trips to unfamiliar locations. So I can see pros and cons
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i dont ever go anywhere without knowing where im going
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Well then you need to expand your horizions Sometimes it's fun to go get lost and then of course have a nice gps to bring you home.

I use sprint nav when me and my friends get lost on a random night in the car or when we're driving with no where to go, I'll use sprint nav to get us to some random restaurant in another state or something.
I also use google maps to find trainstations nearby when I'm in some random part of the city. And when I went to my friends college 7 hours away, thebus had to make a random stop and I used it to figure out where I was.
Its also entertaining to ride a train and see a little blue arrow scrolling across the screen following your path with a Speedometer.
If you have intimateknowledge ofplaces bfore hand, then you have no reason for a gps considering you clearly don't care about the tecnology. This gps bug effects quite a few people adversely. I for one didn't realize how much I used gps until I upgraded from my hero
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<3me said:
i dont ever go anywhere without knowing where im going
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Dang, you must have a pretty limited set of places you go...
Except for going between work, home and the grocery store, I almost *never* know where I'm going. That's called "exploring your surroundings" and "finding new things to do".

<3me said:
Why do people need gps on their phones? this is a serious question
I have never needed or used gps in my life
I like using maps better I guess
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ok since you dont use them so i should not either...........I for one do like reading a map while driving and guessing when my upcoming turn is actually coming up......
I have a series question why do you care why I need/want a gps in my phone....

BrianDigital said:
ok since you dont use them so i should not either...........I for one do like reading a map while driving and guessing when my upcoming turn is actually coming up......
I have a series question why do you care why I need/want a gps in my phone....
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thats a great series of questions sir the answer is i do not care why i was hoping there might be something im missing like a feature thats too awesome for words or at least really useful
and to the first part its not a hate thread chill out
also read the map before you go so you dont have to read while driving *hits staples button*
badasscat said:
Dang, you must have a pretty limited set of places you go...
Except for going between work, home and the grocery store, I almost *never* know where I'm going. That's called "exploring your surroundings" and "finding new things to do".
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actually its not that limited i worked for fedex so i generally know where i am going though i dont travel alot

google data gathering fix?

came across this story on drudge who linked to fox today (to those of you with your heads up obama / cnn's butts, drudge is a news site not an opinion site, and no i dont like fox either) .....http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/04/21/apple-google-receive-phone-users-locations/
anyway, is there a way to disable google's ability to gather your info etc? does running a custom rom negate that ability? if it is disabled do apps still work?
I am starting to really miss my tp2 with all the custom cab files etc and not being forced to the "market" like an iphone.

Google asks if you want to allow it to collect info. What you can't stop is your carrier collecting your location based on what towers you are connected to.
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and google is the only that will allow you to see that info for free

will it stop apps from running? I understand that it is all done with tower triangulation so its not like "they" can track you to a certain house but i am of the school of thought that the less "they" know about me the better. if i turn off google gathering then the apps will probably stop running as well eh?

Everything works fine if you do. Just no location of any type for your apps.
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Google Maps is obsolete! Waze 3.0 released 1/31/2012!

Has anyone tried Waze yet??
It has police traps, road hazards, groups, traffic reports, turn by turn navigation and everything! It's like Facebook for driving! Check it out!
https://market.android.com/details?...rch_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS53YXplIl0.

I tried that and always got an error saying i didn't have enough memory, but i do like that its more of users submitting data to help everyone out with the speed traps and traffic jams

YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
I tried that and always got an error saying i didn't have enough memory, but i do like that its more of users submitting data to help everyone out with the speed traps and traffic jams
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Never got that issue. What ROM you running?

VICODAN said:
Never got that issue. What ROM you running?
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At the time it was Miui, but it was quite a while ago. I'ma try it out again cause i did like it when it would work for me

YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
At the time it was Miui, but it was quite a while ago. I'ma try it out again cause i did like it when it would work for me
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Yeah mooey blows. It's worked on Sense and AOSP just fine for me.

Hellua like my Google Maps. But this looks interresting, going to check it out.

Waze is great for driving, but Google Maps does a lot more than just driving - Favorites, 3D maps, places nearby, find and rate places, Lattitude for friends, etc.

HowDoiUseAndroid said:
Waze is great for driving, but Google Maps does a lot more than just driving - Favorites, 3D maps, places nearby, find and rate places, Lattitude for friends, etc.
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Waze can do all of that minus 3d maps (big woop). I use Waze mainly for the police traps and traffic hazards and reports.

I'll give this a try but I'll still google maps too

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I'll give this a try but I'll still google maps too
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Once you get the hang of Waze the first thing you will do is put it in the same place google maps is on your home screen.

Damn, tried the app but it does not work in Honolulu, HI. I guess ill have to stick with MAPS, BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
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letmeputdatipin said:
Damn, tried the app but it does not work in Honolulu, HI. I guess ill have to stick with MAPS, BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
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Did you try adding any groups? How does it just "not work" in Hawaii? WTF?

Unfortunately waze won't be replacing google maps for me anytime soon.
For one thing, the routing is horrible. I tested it by driving from home to work, and it's telling me to go on the side streets and through residential areas that probably added 5 miles and 10 min to my commute
I know it's suppose to reroute you to the least traffic route, but the way I take normally to work (major road) barely have any cars in the morning and I am usually at work in 15 min.
Another thing is that it seems to use up more memory than google maps. When I have music playing and waze running, the music would skip once every 30 sec or so. I think it's because waze is updating too often with all the messages people are leaving around the area etc.

ryocho said:
Unfortunately waze won't be replacing google maps for me anytime soon.
For one thing, the routing is horrible. I tested it by driving from home to work, and it's telling me to go on the side streets and through residential areas that probably added 5 miles and 10 min to my commute
I know it's suppose to reroute you to the least traffic route, but the way I take normally to work (major road) barely have any cars in the morning and I am usually at work in 15 min.
Another thing is that it seems to use up more memory than google maps. When I have music playing and waze running, the music would skip once every 30 sec or so. I think it's because waze is updating too often with all the messages people are leaving around the area etc.
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That's strange because I have the exact OPPOSITE problem. It'll put me on the highway instead of taking the sidestreets. Have you checked your navigation settings?
Again the main thing I love about waze is the user reports like police traps and road hazards.

VICODAN said:
That's strange because I have the exact OPPOSITE problem. It'll put me on the highway instead of taking the sidestreets. Have you checked your navigation settings?
Again the main thing I love about waze is the user reports like police traps and road hazards.
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I like this app a lot and will be using it mainly for navigation. The main thing is as long as everyone reports new police traps, traffic ect everything will stay updated There isn't really much close by to me since I don't live in a major city but I'll see how it turns out.

sparksco said:
I like this app a lot and will be using it mainly for navigation. The main thing is as long as everyone reports new police traps, traffic ect everything will stay updated There isn't really much close by to me since I don't live in a major city but I'll see how it turns out.
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Yeah just join as many groups as possible I would say.
You can thank Silicon Valley for this app. I heard about this at my old job from my old boss. It's super mega popular here (like most tech things) and I'm sure the rest of the country will catch on. I'm surprised no one's heard of it yet. Then again I didn't hear of it until a few months ago.

I have used this for a while. Its nice except it drains the battery. Its really useful for the commute from los angeles to vegas. The cop warnings are right on.
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I tried everything here in honolulu and it does not even pick up my location! Maybe because I'm in the middle of the PACIFIC!!! Lmao
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This could come in handy. Gonna give it a try.
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Pretty neat app. This one will go far.

letmeputdatipin said:
I tried everything here in honolulu and it does not even pick up my location! Maybe because I'm in the middle of the PACIFIC!!! Lmao
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Sounds like a problem with your GPS not the APP. What does the GPS status APP tell you?
Also you can actually get lots points by creating maps for Hawaii. I saw these threads:
http://tilesworld4.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=11195
http://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=14663&start=130
http://twitter.com/waze_Hawaii

GPS Locking Issue

Does anyone have problems locking to the GPS? GPS Test tells me I have 25 satellites in view but only 3 to 5 are in use. I can never get a good lock in Google Maps. Navigation is pretty much useless. I am testing with a clear view of the sky.

Jerry1130 said:
Does anyone have problems locking to the GPS? GPS Test tells me I have 25 satellites in view but only 3 to 5 are in use. I can never get a good lock in Google Maps. Navigation is pretty much useless. I am testing with a clear view of the sky.
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I had the same problem, but mine was caused by a custom ROM and some xposed mods that didn't play well together. I had to do a factory reset and walk around for a couple minutes for the first lock. Then after that it got a fixed locked every time, really fast.

I do. You're the only person I've seen comment on it other than myself. I was getting pretty convinced that it was just my phone that was weak on GPS. I have to be outside to get a lock most of the time. If it's cloudy I'll only get 8 or 9 out of 17 or so.
I rarely get a lock while in my house, it's hit or miss while in a car, and not at all when in my office. I tried faster fix but that didn't help any. The on'y other phone I've owned that was this weak on GPS was my Galaxy Nexus.

I have also been having this issue. The only thing that seems to help is by enabling the Google location services, for some reason that helps the gps . However it has a negative impact on the battery. At first I though it was the custom rom but I did a full unroot and reset, and the problem persists.

Jerry1130 said:
Does anyone have problems locking to the GPS? GPS Test tells me I have 25 satellites in view but only 3 to 5 are in use. I can never get a good lock in Google Maps. Navigation is pretty much useless. I am testing with a clear view of the sky.
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I'm having the same issue on my d803 at the begging I thought it was a faulty device the one I got because I tried a factory reset and it didn't help. I tested with a Nexus 7 and a Galaxy s4 next to it and they got a lock immediately. After exchanging the phone I still have the same issue. I don't know if it is just software or also hardware related. Hopefully LG will release an update for the issue.
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I'm a plumber. I use my GPS every day. My gps seems weak also. It takes a while to lock on and then its gets confused while I'm using it. I hope we can find a fix.
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afmracer6 said:
I'm a plumber. I use my GPS every day. My gps seems weak also. It takes a while to lock on and then its gets confused while I'm using it. I hope we can find a fix.
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I use GPS regularly. With most phones I have trouble in central London but today for first time I used my g2 and it was perfect and locked quickly
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Had the same issue on the Verizon variant. No matter what I tried to do while on a custom rom I couldn't get a lock in Maps or GPS Test. So I had to restore back to stock. Deleting all my internal storage in the process. Finally was able to get GPS working on this thing. I was about to exchange the device before I did this.

There have been other threads about this in the Q&A section. It seems limited to the Verizon version, but I pretty much experience the same issues as everyone here. Compass is sometimes off by 30 degrees and GPS lock takes a while. I do occasionally get placed on neighboring streets when in a downtown city area as well due to the lock accuracy.
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Ya I'm having big issues too, my phone will say it has my location but have like no satellites, and gps info doesn't say it until i have lik 8+ sattellites and even then sometimes google maps doesn't show a complete lock, though I have gotton that a few times. Half the time though it just takes foerever , and i'm on verizon

Im having problems here as well. I will eventually get a lock, but will get a notification saying GPS signal lost in the middle of navigating with Google Maps. Was trying to figure out if its a Verizon phone issue or I just have a bad GPS antenna...

Same issue here. GPS checker app doesn't help much. Running Malladus. Might factory reset later on. Everytime I check GPS at work I'm several blocks in another direction from my location.

I have also noticed that it has trouble figuring out which way I am heading. Lets say my google maps has me going north, my arrow might be going north but it pointed West. Seems all screwed up.

I had the same issue. Downloaded GPS status from the play store, ran it, and now I get lock in seconds.
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D-meist said:
I had the same issue. Downloaded GPS status from the play store, ran it, and now I get lock in seconds.
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For me, it's not necessarily a lock issue, it's that I will have a lock and then it will tell me gps signal lost.
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Since this seems mostly to be on the Verizon model has anyone compared the GPS.conf file with another to see the differences? Maybe this can be an easy fix.

I called Verizon today about my GPS. They said its a known issue with Verizon lg g2. They said the first batch may have been defective. They are sending me a new one.
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afmracer6 said:
I called Verizon today about my GPS. They said its a known issue with Verizon lg g2. They said the first batch may have been defective. They are sending me a new one.
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I've experienced the same issue with my T-mobile G2. Only way to get a solid GPS lock is to turn on google location services. Even then the lock is "fuzzy" and accuracy is 30-80 feet.

afmracer6 said:
I called Verizon today about my GPS. They said its a known issue with Verizon lg g2. They said the first batch may have been defective. They are sending me a new one.
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Mhmm thats interesting. Keep us updated.
Also curious, how long have you had your G2?

MoNsTeReNeRgY22 said:
Mhmm thats interesting. Keep us updated.
Also curious, how long have you had your G2?
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I got it a couple of days after launch. So a month or so. I'll let you know if the new one is better.
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